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  • Dirty F
    Too lazy to set a custom title
    • Jul 2001
    • 59204

    #1

    Let me show you how GTS screws over webmasters

    A small % of the people buying at GTS and Submitpasses buy all their good stuff. With all i mean a few accounts that are worth it. Those spots/passes are sold out all the time for reason. The rest is shit. Thats how they make their real money. Selling to noobs and people who fall for their sneaky tricks. Like lying on the site about traffic numbers and coming to the boards saying things like:
    We bought some of our own spots last month and look, we made 10k from those: Insert screenshot. Hit me up now and i'll make you a great deal. And with great deal he means i'm gonna sell you all my shit left overs for 50% off so you think you just made a killer deal but the truth is that spot or pass will send so little traffic you won't even make your money back.

    The majority of their spots or submit passes aren't able to send you enough traffic to make your money back or even better make profit. When you ask about it they will tell you your gallery sucks (their standard defense) but if you look at your stats you will notice that gallery simply did not get any traffic. Or at least not enough traffic to make sales.

    Last year a buddy of mine bought a Video Post spot for 2k. Hardly any traffic. You'd had to convert 1:30 to make your money back. I was amazed it was so little traffic as GTS mentioned something like 700k uniques or so.
    I look up their stats and guess what it was something like 300 or 350k He paid 2000 dollars for that! Basically he got screwed for 1k
    I bring it to the boards. Get told to fuck off by them and a week later they make an anouncement that Video Post spots are $500 or whatever cheaper and they adjusted the uniques on their site. See, that's how they work. Don't think they don't know about those numbers, they just leave them on the site till someone mentions it. And then it's like "our bad, we uploaded an old page from 2 years ago".

    Now for those who need some facts:

    According to GTS:
    Madthumbs recieves on average of 824,708 unique visitors daily.
    Madthumbs Uniques according to Sextracker: 537,764

    According to GTS:
    Mark's Bookmarks recieves on average of 638,000 uniques per day.
    Mark's Bookmarks Uniques according to Sextracker: 466,240

    Video-Post
    GTS: 332,412
    Sextracker: 128,673

    Let's not forget here you're getting screwed for over 50 fucking % when you buy a video post spot for example. Which is insane. You buy a THOUSAND dollar spot and are told the site gets 332k uniques while in reality they get 128k! Thats not just a minor detail. Think about it.

    Ampland
    GTS: 253,588
    Sextracker: 94,959

    Etc. I think you get the point.

    I think it's amazing that this is happening right under our nose and nobody says a thing about it. We go crazy when someone like cockroach Jimthefiend scams some people for a total of 2000 dollars but thats totally fucking nothing compared to how GTS operates.
  • Dirty F
    Too lazy to set a custom title
    • Jul 2001
    • 59204

    #2
    I forgot to mention something that makes thing even worse. Many of those sites skim those gallery spots. So that lowers the chance of getting some traffic even more. You don't see them mention that on GTS. While they should.

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    • cranki
      Confirmed User
      • Feb 2005
      • 5162

      #3
      you got a cool banner there

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      • ~Ray
        visit hardlinks.org
        • Jun 2003
        • 18361

        #4
        if you argue with a gts/submitpass rep they will cancel your account which will hurt webmasters profits who use them.

        think about it..

        cheating? no.

        lying? no.

        arguing? yes

        so now all the webmasters that partner with gts/submitpasses will sell one less pass.

        less profit because of an honest webmasters argument... hrm. who's best interest do the really represent? Rub gts/submitpasses the wrong way and they will damage the profit margin of their tgp/mgp partners to make a point for themselves.
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        • CurrentlySober
          Too lazy to wipe my ass
          • Aug 2002
          • 38946

          #5
          siggeth spotteth... well rude not to really...


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          • Dirty F
            Too lazy to set a custom title
            • Jul 2001
            • 59204

            #6
            Originally posted by AdvertisingSex
            if you argue with a gts/submitpass rep they will cancel your account which will hurt webmasters profits who use them.

            think about it..

            cheating? no.

            lying? no.

            arguing? yes

            so now all the webmasters that partner with gts/submitpasses will sell one less pass.

            less profit because of an honest webmasters argument... hrm. who's best interest do the really represent? Rub gts/submitpasses the wrong way and they will damage the profit margin of their tgp/mgp partners to make a point for themselves.
            I totally, i mean completely lost you there.

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            • Dirty F
              Too lazy to set a custom title
              • Jul 2001
              • 59204

              #7
              Originally posted by ThatGuyInTheCorner
              siggeth spotteth... well rude not to really...
              This is not a drama thread so please fuck off everybody with sigspot shit. Just stating some facts.

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              • marketsmart
                HOMICIDAL TROLL KILLER
                • Dec 2004
                • 20419

                #8
                gts sucks... i tried them several times and the traffic was junk....

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                • Dirty F
                  Too lazy to set a custom title
                  • Jul 2001
                  • 59204

                  #9
                  Originally posted by AdvertisingSex
                  Rub gts/submitpasses the wrong way and they will damage the profit margin of their tgp/mgp partners to make a point for themselves.
                  Ah this part i understand

                  And yes you are right. I said it several times before. Mark surrounds himself with asskissers. He cant stand anything negative towards him or his program. He will ban you, cancel your account or whatever else he can. He's probably bugging the mods on icq right now about this thread. He thinks he's some kind of internet mafia who needs to silence everyone who talks about him.

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                  • candyflip
                    Carpe Visio
                    • Jul 2002
                    • 43069

                    #10
                    Amen brother.

                    Spend you some brain.
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                    • ~Ray
                      visit hardlinks.org
                      • Jun 2003
                      • 18361

                      #11
                      what I meant was...

                      if the tgp's and mgp's, who partner with gts/submitpasses, rely on submitpasses/gts to sell packages. then, everytime gts/submitpasses cancels an honest webmaster's account for arguing, they take away that pass (profit) of the tgp's/mgp's they are supposed to be selling passes for.

                      they choose to hurt their tgp/mgp partners profit potential to fight personal battles.
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                      • hateman
                        So Fucking Banned
                        • Jul 2003
                        • 1623

                        #12
                        Seriuos business.

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                        • JFK
                          FUBAR the ORIGINATOR
                          • Jan 2002
                          • 67373

                          #13
                          Originally posted by ThatGuyInTheCorner
                          siggeth spotteth... well rude not to really...
                          agree

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                          • Jman
                            Already an AI veteran
                            • Sep 2003
                            • 22838

                            #14
                            Originally posted by JFK
                            agree
                            yup pretty much the only thing to do in threads like these made by idiots is a siggy spot
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                            • Violetta
                              Affiliate
                              • Jul 2004
                              • 28735

                              #15
                              thanks for sharing... I have never used gts before, but nice to know
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                              • iMind
                                Confirmed User
                                • Nov 2007
                                • 937

                                #16
                                Originally posted by Jean-Francois
                                yup pretty much the only thing to do in threads like these made by idiots is a siggy spot
                                #1 Example ass kisser

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                                • Slap Dot
                                  Confirmed User
                                  • Aug 2004
                                  • 3168

                                  #17
                                  Hard to put this type of program down on GFY because he has so many friends that don't use his service.

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                                  • candyflip
                                    Carpe Visio
                                    • Jul 2002
                                    • 43069

                                    #18
                                    Originally posted by iMind
                                    #1 Example ass kisser

                                    Pull your french asskissing lips off DH's nut sack Jman
                                    He likes the taste and smell.

                                    Spend you some brain.
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                                    • Snake Doctor
                                      I'm Lenny2 Bitch
                                      • Mar 2001
                                      • 13449

                                      #19
                                      so you buy spots and don't make your money back, and it's the broker's fault?

                                      This is as bad as the minusonebit thread about how all traffic browkers (his spelling) are crooks because he didn't make his money back from a purchase.

                                      If you buy a full page ad in a newspaper and don't get a return on your investment, is the newspaper screwing you over too?
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                                      • iMind
                                        Confirmed User
                                        • Nov 2007
                                        • 937

                                        #20
                                        Originally posted by Snake Doctor
                                        If you buy a full page ad in a newspaper and don't get a return on your investment, is the newspaper screwing you over too?
                                        If that magazine tells you it's circulation is 200% more than it actually is, then yes ;)

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                                        • Dirty F
                                          Too lazy to set a custom title
                                          • Jul 2001
                                          • 59204

                                          #21
                                          Originally posted by Snake Doctor
                                          so you buy spots and don't make your money back, and it's the broker's fault?

                                          This is as bad as the minusonebit thread about how all traffic browkers (his spelling) are crooks because he didn't make his money back from a purchase.

                                          If you buy a full page ad in a newspaper and don't get a return on your investment, is the newspaper screwing you over too?
                                          Read again what i wrote and then comment please. Youre COMPLETELY missing what i'm trying to say. I wonder why because i made it really fucking clear.

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                                          • candyflip
                                            Carpe Visio
                                            • Jul 2002
                                            • 43069

                                            #22
                                            Originally posted by Snake Doctor
                                            so you buy spots and don't make your money back, and it's the broker's fault?

                                            This is as bad as the minusonebit thread about how all traffic browkers (his spelling) are crooks because he didn't make his money back from a purchase.

                                            If you buy a full page ad in a newspaper and don't get a return on your investment, is the newspaper screwing you over too?
                                            If they tell you circulation is 500k when it's actually only 250k, would put them in a lot of hot water.

                                            Spend you some brain.
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                                            • Dirty F
                                              Too lazy to set a custom title
                                              • Jul 2001
                                              • 59204

                                              #23
                                              Originally posted by Jean-Francois
                                              yup pretty much the only thing to do in threads like these made by idiots is a siggy spot
                                              Do you have no shame whatsoever? Just like Phoenix you kiss so much ass it's sickening. Why don't you remove your cock from Mark's lips for a minute and look at the FACTS i just posted. If you ignore that and just keep on fingering Mark's asshole then you are the real idiot here.

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                                              • Snake Doctor
                                                I'm Lenny2 Bitch
                                                • Mar 2001
                                                • 13449

                                                #24
                                                Originally posted by Dirty F
                                                A small % of the people buying at GTS and Submitpasses buy all their good stuff. With all i mean a few accounts that are worth it. Those spots/passes are sold out all the time for reason. The rest is shit. Thats how they make their real money. Selling to noobs and people who fall for their sneaky tricks. Like lying on the site about traffic numbers and coming to the boards saying things like:
                                                We bought some of our own spots last month and look, we made 10k from those: Insert screenshot. Hit me up now and i'll make you a great deal. And with great deal he means i'm gonna sell you all my shit left overs for 50% off so you think you just made a killer deal but the truth is that spot or pass will send so little traffic you won't even make your money back.

                                                The majority of their spots or submit passes aren't able to send you enough traffic to make your money back or even better make profit. When you ask about it they will tell you your gallery sucks (their standard defense) but if you look at your stats you will notice that gallery simply did not get any traffic. Or at least not enough traffic to make sales.

                                                Last year a buddy of mine bought a Video Post spot for 2k. Hardly any traffic. You'd had to convert 1:30 to make your money back. I was amazed it was so little traffic as GTS mentioned something like 700k uniques or so.
                                                I look up their stats and guess what it was something like 300 or 350k He paid 2000 dollars for that! Basically he got screwed for 1k
                                                I bring it to the boards
                                                . Get told to fuck off by them and a week later they make an anouncement that Video Post spots are $500 or whatever cheaper and they adjusted the uniques on their site. See, that's how they work. Don't think they don't know about those numbers, they just leave them on the site till someone mentions it. And then it's like "our bad, we uploaded an old page from 2 years ago".

                                                Now for those who need some facts:

                                                According to GTS:
                                                Madthumbs recieves on average of 824,708 unique visitors daily.
                                                Madthumbs Uniques according to Sextracker: 537,764

                                                According to GTS:
                                                Mark's Bookmarks recieves on average of 638,000 uniques per day.
                                                Mark's Bookmarks Uniques according to Sextracker: 466,240

                                                Video-Post
                                                GTS: 332,412
                                                Sextracker: 128,673

                                                Let's not forget here you're getting screwed for over 50 fucking % when you buy a video post spot for example. Which is insane. You buy a THOUSAND dollar spot and are told the site gets 332k uniques while in reality they get 128k! Thats not just a minor detail. Think about it.

                                                Ampland
                                                GTS: 253,588
                                                Sextracker: 94,959

                                                Etc. I think you get the point.

                                                I think it's amazing that this is happening right under our nose and nobody says a thing about it. We go crazy when someone like cockroach Jimthefiend scams some people for a total of 2000 dollars but thats totally fucking nothing compared to how GTS operates.
                                                The highlighted part actually highlights your problem.
                                                Instead of trying to work out a deal with them, you come to the boards to create drama and tell people they're ripping you off.

                                                Then you have a look of amazement on your face when they tell you to go fuck yourself.

                                                I've bought spots that didn't work out before, contacted them after a few days and told them what my issues were, and in some cases received a full refund.
                                                Of course you have to do this after a few days, you can't let the whole month run and THEN go complain. It doesn't work that way.

                                                Unfortunately people like you are more interested in creating drama and trying to make people look bad than you are in actually making money.
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                                                • Dirty F
                                                  Too lazy to set a custom title
                                                  • Jul 2001
                                                  • 59204

                                                  #25
                                                  Originally posted by Snake Doctor
                                                  The highlighted part actually highlights your problem.
                                                  Instead of trying to work out a deal with them, you come to the boards to create drama and tell people they're ripping you off.
                                                  Fuck, you are an annoying idiot. First of all, GTS their way of solving things is ban you, cancel your account, tell you to fuck off or usually in the first place tell you your gallery sucks. As i said, Mark doesn't like anything negative. He will silence it.

                                                  2nd, thanks to me for bringing it to the boards the price dropped a few days later and they adjusted the amount of uniques they listed for the site. Thats the only way to do it with scum like that because if you do it in private they will ignore it.

                                                  3rd: I didn't start drama. I discussed it. I searched it up for you. This is what i said:

                                                  "Just wondering, is there anybody who still makes profit from it?

                                                  I was checking prices and Alexa and i noticed when GTS came up with 2k for a top 10 spot the site got twice as much traffic. Now with half the traffic the price is still at 2k.

                                                  Since i kinda now what numbers of visitors you get from those listings as someone i know has a top spot and i had partner passes in the past it seems near impossible to make that 2k back, let alone making profit.

                                                  Can someone prove me wrong? I'm really curious."

                                                  Is that starting drama you faggot? Or is that discussing a webmaster related topic on a webmaster board.

                                                  4th: Stfu because you are a clueless idiot who's just trying to attack me while in the meantime ignoring that GTS is screwing people over big time.

                                                  Now piss off.

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                                                  • TheSenator
                                                    Too lazy to set a custom title
                                                    • Feb 2003
                                                    • 13340

                                                    #26
                                                    Originally posted by Snake Doctor
                                                    The highlighted part actually highlights your problem.
                                                    Instead of trying to work out a deal with them, you come to the boards to create drama and tell people they're ripping you off.

                                                    Then you have a look of amazement on your face when they tell you to go fuck yourself.

                                                    I've bought spots that didn't work out before, contacted them after a few days and told them what my issues were, and in some cases received a full refund.
                                                    Of course you have to do this after a few days, you can't let the whole month run and THEN go complain. It doesn't work that way.

                                                    Unfortunately people like you are more interested in creating drama and trying to make people look bad than you are in actually making money.

                                                    Why would GTS inflate numbers so high?
                                                    http://gallerytrafficservice.com/sit...%20Of%20Thumbs
                                                    http://www.libraryofthumbs.com/
                                                    "110,000 visitors per day"

                                                    I don't think so.
                                                    The site has approx. 40,000 visitors per day.
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                                                    • Snake Doctor
                                                      I'm Lenny2 Bitch
                                                      • Mar 2001
                                                      • 13449

                                                      #27
                                                      Originally posted by Dirty F
                                                      4th: Stfu because you are a clueless idiot who's just trying to attack me while in the meantime ignoring that GTS is screwing people over big time.

                                                      Now piss off.
                                                      Yeah I only spend about 10K a month in paid TGP spots, I really have no idea what I'm talking about when it comes to this subject.

                                                      I don't kiss GTS's ass, they kiss mine. Got it?

                                                      You on the other hand obviously have an agenda and will say just about anything to try and make Mark and crew look bad.
                                                      If you can't make any money on paid gallery spots or submit passes, then don't use them. You don't have to piss all over the people who sell them.

                                                      If they were really "ripping everyone off" or "screwing everyone over" then they wouldn't still be in business.

                                                      Now why don't you spend the rest of your Saturday playing with the other kids on the playground instead of sitting on dad's computer and trying to act like a grownup.
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                                                      • Pornopat
                                                        AdultTubeSubmits.com
                                                        • Dec 2003
                                                        • 10598

                                                        #28
                                                        I always make a profit on video-post spots.
                                                        I never really check for quantity. quality is what matters to me and video-post has very high quality traffic. What did your buddy try to sell that he did so bad?
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                                                        • Dirty F
                                                          Too lazy to set a custom title
                                                          • Jul 2001
                                                          • 59204

                                                          #29
                                                          Originally posted by Snake Doctor
                                                          Yeah I only spend about 10K a month in paid TGP spots, I really have no idea what I'm talking about when it comes to this subject.

                                                          I don't kiss GTS's ass, they kiss mine. Got it?

                                                          You on the other hand obviously have an agenda and will say just about anything to try and make Mark and crew look bad.
                                                          If you can't make any money on paid gallery spots or submit passes, then don't use them. You don't have to piss all over the people who sell them.

                                                          If they were really "ripping everyone off" or "screwing everyone over" then they wouldn't still be in business.

                                                          Now why don't you spend the rest of your Saturday playing with the other kids on the playground instead of sitting on dad's computer and trying to act like a grownup.
                                                          What part doesnt your tiny brain understand?

                                                          Now for those who need some facts:

                                                          According to GTS:
                                                          Madthumbs recieves on average of 824,708 unique visitors daily.
                                                          Madthumbs Uniques according to Sextracker: 537,764

                                                          According to GTS:
                                                          Mark's Bookmarks recieves on average of 638,000 uniques per day.
                                                          Mark's Bookmarks Uniques according to Sextracker: 466,240

                                                          Video-Post
                                                          GTS: 332,412
                                                          Sextracker: 128,673

                                                          Let's not forget here you're getting screwed for over 50 fucking % when you buy a video post spot for example. Which is insane. You buy a THOUSAND dollar spot and are told the site gets 332k uniques while in reality they get 128k! Thats not just a minor detail. Think about it.

                                                          Ampland
                                                          GTS: 253,588
                                                          Sextracker: 94,959

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                                                          • Dirty F
                                                            Too lazy to set a custom title
                                                            • Jul 2001
                                                            • 59204

                                                            #30
                                                            Originally posted by Pornopat
                                                            I always make a profit on video-post spots.
                                                            I never really check for quantity. quality is what matters to me and video-post has very high quality traffic. What did your buddy try to sell that he did so bad?
                                                            The point of the thread is they lie on their site about traffic numbers. Big time. There is a huge difference between a 300k and a 150k site. It means you get ripped off for 50%. You pay a certain amount for a 300k site and not a 150k site.

                                                            I'm not sure why i'm explaining this again.

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                                                            • Dirty F
                                                              Too lazy to set a custom title
                                                              • Jul 2001
                                                              • 59204

                                                              #31
                                                              Waiting for Phoenix to come in to tell Mark "not to listen to the haters" also ignoring everything else.

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                                                              • pip
                                                                So Fucking Banned
                                                                • Nov 2005
                                                                • 468

                                                                #32
                                                                I recently spent just over 8k on traffic, I was gonna invest in 5k with GTS, but I did some searches, and nothing but negative stuff has been said about them.

                                                                Thanks for the post.

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                                                                • Pipecrew
                                                                  Master of Gfy.com
                                                                  • Feb 2002
                                                                  • 14888

                                                                  #33
                                                                  Originally posted by Dirty F
                                                                  What part doesnt your tiny brain understand?

                                                                  Now for those who need some facts:

                                                                  According to GTS:
                                                                  Madthumbs recieves on average of 824,708 unique visitors daily.
                                                                  Madthumbs Uniques according to Sextracker: 537,764

                                                                  According to GTS:
                                                                  Mark's Bookmarks recieves on average of 638,000 uniques per day.
                                                                  Mark's Bookmarks Uniques according to Sextracker: 466,240

                                                                  Video-Post
                                                                  GTS: 332,412
                                                                  Sextracker: 128,673

                                                                  Let's not forget here you're getting screwed for over 50 fucking % when you buy a video post spot for example. Which is insane. You buy a THOUSAND dollar spot and are told the site gets 332k uniques while in reality they get 128k! Thats not just a minor detail. Think about it.

                                                                  Ampland
                                                                  GTS: 253,588
                                                                  Sextracker: 94,959
                                                                  Hey Franck, I have access to the numbers on madthumbs and they are definitely a lot higher than what sextracker is posting. I am going off atx and actual server stats.

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                                                                  • Dirty F
                                                                    Too lazy to set a custom title
                                                                    • Jul 2001
                                                                    • 59204

                                                                    #34
                                                                    Originally posted by Pornopat
                                                                    I always make a profit on video-post spots.
                                                                    I never really check for quantity. quality is what matters to me and video-post has very high quality traffic. What did your buddy try to sell that he did so bad?
                                                                    Btw, are you talking about top 10 spots or submit passes. A year or 2 or 3 ago i had a submit pass there and it was really good. Really worth the money but then the site also had 4 times more traffic as it has now. I'm not sure how you can make profit from a top 10 spot there. Actually, now it's 1k (but also less traffic) but when my buddy bought the spot it was 2k. And you ask me what did he try to sell. That doesnt really matter because the clicks to the gallery itself were just not enough to make any profit. Unless the site pays 100 pps or rebills for 6 months or converts 1:30 or so.

                                                                    Based on that i think it was near impossible to make profit during that time. It might have changed now.

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                                                                    • howard
                                                                      Confirmed User
                                                                      • Feb 2002
                                                                      • 1827

                                                                      #35
                                                                      Hey GTS ---can I please be you or speak for you---please---please--- please

                                                                      This really looks like fun. Congratulations on all the business you will get out of this...


                                                                      Come on guys dont be pussies.....This can be a really funny....
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                                                                      • Kram
                                                                        Confirmed User
                                                                        • Feb 2007
                                                                        • 666

                                                                        #36
                                                                        I have bought spots before only to find out that the sites won't list karups content so it was a total waste of time ...

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                                                                        • GTS Mark
                                                                          Vrume Mark
                                                                          • Jan 2001
                                                                          • 20912

                                                                          #37
                                                                          Oh god what is the cry baby Franck saying now? LOL!

                                                                          If anyone has questions or concerns about the traffic numbers that are posted on GTS please contact anyone of our sales people or me directly. Traffic fluxuations happen everyday, we try our best to keep up with the updates but when you have over 100 sites to sell advertising for you would need a full time person just to check sites and do updates. If anyone could suggest a script to do these updates for us automatically I am all ears and would love suggestions.

                                                                          Franck if you spent 10% of the time you actually spent bashing on GTS and spent on your own initiatives you MIGHT actually be a successful webmaster.

                                                                          DH

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                                                                          • GTS Mark
                                                                            Vrume Mark
                                                                            • Jan 2001
                                                                            • 20912

                                                                            #38
                                                                            Originally posted by Kram
                                                                            I have bought spots before only to find out that the sites won't list karups content so it was a total waste of time ...
                                                                            Hi Kram, would you mind giving me a shout. This is the first I have heard of this? ICQ 5191566

                                                                            Thanks,
                                                                            DH

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                                                                            • GTS Mark
                                                                              Vrume Mark
                                                                              • Jan 2001
                                                                              • 20912

                                                                              #39
                                                                              Originally posted by howard
                                                                              Hey GTS ---can I please be you or speak for you---please---please--- please

                                                                              This really looks like fun. Congratulations on all the business you will get out of this...


                                                                              Come on guys dont be pussies.....This can be a really funny....
                                                                              LOL! Hey Howard, how did the blackjack tables at the Palms treat you? You looked like you were handing them an ass beating last time i walked by

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                                                                              • howard
                                                                                Confirmed User
                                                                                • Feb 2002
                                                                                • 1827

                                                                                #40
                                                                                Originally posted by DrinkingHARDEST
                                                                                LOL! Hey Howard, how did the blackjack tables at the Palms treat you? You looked like you were handing them an ass beating last time i walked by

                                                                                ARe you fucking kidding me....You never passed me during the 10 down times...not good---glad its 1 or 2 times year or I would be living with Dirty F
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                                                                                • GTS Mark
                                                                                  Vrume Mark
                                                                                  • Jan 2001
                                                                                  • 20912

                                                                                  #41
                                                                                  Originally posted by marketsmart
                                                                                  gts sucks... i tried them several times and the traffic was junk....
                                                                                  Don't even start with me, you don't even work in this industry anymore do you? Last time I heard you ran off for "mainstream" because it was so much more profitable. Yeah right... You just hang out here for the "sport" right? Sleazydream wannabe motherfucker. Sleazy has 100x more class then your un-origional ass.

                                                                                  Should I post screenshots of our ICQ conversation where you tried to extort P2PADS of our popup technology. Maybe you forgot about that, I didn't...

                                                                                  Keep going fucktard, I have your number.

                                                                                  DH

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                                                                                  • Fluid
                                                                                    Confirmed User
                                                                                    • Jul 2001
                                                                                    • 380

                                                                                    #42
                                                                                    Fank, where are you getting these stats out of Sex Tracker?
                                                                                    Because their ranking shows your numbers are WILDLY inaccurate.
                                                                                    I'm going to tell you what I tell a lot of my customers, for updated statistics please visit this page http://ranks.sextracker.com/spn.html...se&pg=0-0.html

                                                                                    I might bring your attention to the video post site you underestimated by half, and the Ampland site that you underestimated by about the same!!!
                                                                                    Last edited by Fluid; 01-19-2008, 09:59 AM.

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                                                                                    • Steve Awesome
                                                                                      Confirmed User
                                                                                      • Jan 2007
                                                                                      • 1575

                                                                                      #43
                                                                                      Good thread unlike the "what are you doing right now" bullshit that pervades here.

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                                                                                      • WiredGuy
                                                                                        Pounding Googlebot
                                                                                        • Aug 2002
                                                                                        • 34512

                                                                                        #44
                                                                                        Originally posted by Pipecrew
                                                                                        Hey Franck, I have access to the numbers on madthumbs and they are definitely a lot higher than what sextracker is posting. I am going off atx and actual server stats.
                                                                                        Exactly... I doubt these sites are going by their Sextracker stats and going by the inhouse numbers that they're reporting to GTS to publish. If they're lying, then its the site owner who's skewing the numbers and not GTS. GTS is just a middle man, they broker the sales, you really need to hold the site owners accountable and not the broker here...
                                                                                        WG
                                                                                        I play with Google.

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                                                                                        • Jman
                                                                                          Already an AI veteran
                                                                                          • Sep 2003
                                                                                          • 22838

                                                                                          #45
                                                                                          Originally posted by WiredGuy
                                                                                          Exactly... I doubt these sites are going by their Sextracker stats and going by the inhouse numbers that they're reporting to GTS to publish. If they're lying, then its the site owner who's skewing the numbers and not GTS. GTS is just a middle man, they broker the sales, you really need to hold the site owners accountable and not the broker here...
                                                                                          WG
                                                                                          WiredGuy, we are talking about Franck here. Someone with a vendetta.

                                                                                          Trying to talk sense into Franck is like trying to teach a rock to play backgammon... Won't happen.
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                                                                                          • Dirty F
                                                                                            Too lazy to set a custom title
                                                                                            • Jul 2001
                                                                                            • 59204

                                                                                            #46
                                                                                            Originally posted by WiredGuy
                                                                                            Exactly... I doubt these sites are going by their Sextracker stats and going by the inhouse numbers that they're reporting to GTS to publish. If they're lying, then its the site owner who's skewing the numbers and not GTS. GTS is just a middle man, they broker the sales, you really need to hold the site owners accountable and not the broker here...
                                                                                            WG
                                                                                            FACT IS many sites have still the amount of uniques listed next to them that they got a year or 2 years ago. They, for obvious reasons never bothered to change it. Thats a shit way to do business.

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                                                                                            • Dirty F
                                                                                              Too lazy to set a custom title
                                                                                              • Jul 2001
                                                                                              • 59204

                                                                                              #47
                                                                                              Originally posted by Fluid
                                                                                              Fank, where are you getting these stats out of Sex Tracker?
                                                                                              Because their ranking shows your numbers are WILDLY inaccurate.
                                                                                              I'm going to tell you what I tell a lot of my customers, for updated statistics please visit this page http://ranks.sextracker.com/spn.html...se&pg=0-0.html

                                                                                              I might bring your attention to the video post site you underestimated by half, and the Ampland site that you underestimated by about the same!!!
                                                                                              I got them directly from that page 2 mins before i made this post.

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                                                                                              • Dirty F
                                                                                                Too lazy to set a custom title
                                                                                                • Jul 2001
                                                                                                • 59204

                                                                                                #48
                                                                                                Originally posted by WiredGuy
                                                                                                Exactly... I doubt these sites are going by their Sextracker stats and going by the inhouse numbers that they're reporting to GTS to publish. If they're lying, then its the site owner who's skewing the numbers and not GTS. GTS is just a middle man, they broker the sales, you really need to hold the site owners accountable and not the broker here...
                                                                                                WG
                                                                                                Thats why after i mentioned on gfy that they showed the same numbers as a year earlier for videopost they changed it a few days later and dropped the price.

                                                                                                Right Charles? They did that because i was wrong?

                                                                                                Just keep on:

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                                                                                                • hateman
                                                                                                  So Fucking Banned
                                                                                                  • Jul 2003
                                                                                                  • 1623

                                                                                                  #49
                                                                                                  Originally posted by Pipecrew
                                                                                                  Hey Franck, I have access to the numbers on madthumbs and they are definitely a lot higher than what sextracker is posting. I am going off atx and actual server stats.
                                                                                                  ATX stats suck.

                                                                                                  They count evey page reload as a "hit".

                                                                                                  You can not figure out Unique visitors from ATX stats.

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                                                                                                  • WiredGuy
                                                                                                    Pounding Googlebot
                                                                                                    • Aug 2002
                                                                                                    • 34512

                                                                                                    #50
                                                                                                    Originally posted by Dirty F
                                                                                                    FACT IS many sites have still the amount of uniques listed next to them that they got a year or 2 years ago. They, for obvious reasons never bothered to change it. Thats a shit way to do business.
                                                                                                    'they' as in gts or 'they' as in the site owners? I get the impression the burden here is on the site owners to update the numbers, not gts.
                                                                                                    WG
                                                                                                    I play with Google.

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