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Dirty F · 01-19-2008, 08:52 AM

A small % of the people buying at GTS and Submitpasses buy all their good stuff. With all i mean a few accounts that are worth it. Those spots/passes are sold out all the time for reason. The rest is shit. Thats how they make their real money. Selling to noobs and people who fall for their sneaky tricks. Like lying on the site about traffic numbers and coming to the boards saying things like:
We bought some of our own spots last month and look, we made 10k from those: Insert screenshot. Hit me up now and i'll make you a great deal. And with great deal he means i'm gonna sell you all my shit left overs for 50% off so you think you just made a killer deal but the truth is that spot or pass will send so little traffic you won't even make your money back.

The majority of their spots or submit passes aren't able to send you enough traffic to make your money back or even better make profit. When you ask about it they will tell you your gallery sucks (their standard defense) but if you look at your stats you will notice that gallery simply did not get any traffic. Or at least not enough traffic to make sales.

Last year a buddy of mine bought a Video Post spot for 2k. Hardly any traffic. You'd had to convert 1:30 to make your money back. I was amazed it was so little traffic as GTS mentioned something like 700k uniques or so.
I look up their stats and guess what it was something like 300 or 350k He paid 2000 dollars for that! Basically he got screwed for 1k
I bring it to the boards. Get told to fuck off by them and a week later they make an anouncement that Video Post spots are $500 or whatever cheaper and they adjusted the uniques on their site. See, that's how they work. Don't think they don't know about those numbers, they just leave them on the site till someone mentions it. And then it's like "our bad, we uploaded an old page from 2 years ago".

Now for those who need some facts:

According to GTS:
Madthumbs recieves on average of 824,708 unique visitors daily.
Madthumbs Uniques according to Sextracker: 537,764

According to GTS:
Mark's Bookmarks recieves on average of 638,000 uniques per day.
Mark's Bookmarks Uniques according to Sextracker: 466,240

Video-Post
GTS: 332,412
Sextracker: 128,673

Let's not forget here you're getting screwed for over 50 fucking % when you buy a video post spot for example. Which is insane. You buy a THOUSAND dollar spot and are told the site gets 332k uniques while in reality they get 128k! Thats not just a minor detail. Think about it.

Ampland
GTS: 253,588
Sextracker: 94,959

Etc. I think you get the point.

I think it's amazing that this is happening right under our nose and nobody says a thing about it. We go crazy when someone like cockroach Jimthefiend scams some people for a total of 2000 dollars but thats totally fucking nothing compared to how GTS operates.

01-19-2008, 08:52 AM
Dirty F Too lazy to set a custom title Industry Role: Join Date: Jul 2001 Posts: 59,204	Let me show you how GTS screws over webmasters A small % of the people buying at GTS and Submitpasses buy all their good stuff. With all i mean a few accounts that are worth it. Those spots/passes are sold out all the time for reason. The rest is shit. Thats how they make their real money. Selling to noobs and people who fall for their sneaky tricks. Like lying on the site about traffic numbers and coming to the boards saying things like: We bought some of our own spots last month and look, we made 10k from those: Insert screenshot. Hit me up now and i'll make you a great deal. And with great deal he means i'm gonna sell you all my shit left overs for 50% off so you think you just made a killer deal but the truth is that spot or pass will send so little traffic you won't even make your money back. The majority of their spots or submit passes aren't able to send you enough traffic to make your money back or even better make profit. When you ask about it they will tell you your gallery sucks (their standard defense) but if you look at your stats you will notice that gallery simply did not get any traffic. Or at least not enough traffic to make sales. Last year a buddy of mine bought a Video Post spot for 2k. Hardly any traffic. You'd had to convert 1:30 to make your money back. I was amazed it was so little traffic as GTS mentioned something like 700k uniques or so. I look up their stats and guess what it was something like 300 or 350k He paid 2000 dollars for that! Basically he got screwed for 1k I bring it to the boards. Get told to fuck off by them and a week later they make an anouncement that Video Post spots are $500 or whatever cheaper and they adjusted the uniques on their site. See, that's how they work. Don't think they don't know about those numbers, they just leave them on the site till someone mentions it. And then it's like "our bad, we uploaded an old page from 2 years ago". Now for those who need some facts: According to GTS: Madthumbs recieves on average of 824,708 unique visitors daily. Madthumbs Uniques according to Sextracker: 537,764 According to GTS: Mark's Bookmarks recieves on average of 638,000 uniques per day. Mark's Bookmarks Uniques according to Sextracker: 466,240 Video-Post GTS: 332,412 Sextracker: 128,673 Let's not forget here you're getting screwed for over 50 fucking % when you buy a video post spot for example. Which is insane. You buy a THOUSAND dollar spot and are told the site gets 332k uniques while in reality they get 128k! Thats not just a minor detail. Think about it. Ampland GTS: 253,588 Sextracker: 94,959 Etc. I think you get the point. I think it's amazing that this is happening right under our nose and nobody says a thing about it. We go crazy when someone like cockroach Jimthefiend scams some people for a total of 2000 dollars but thats totally fucking nothing compared to how GTS operates.