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Old 01-17-2008, 04:20 PM  
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Originally Posted by tony404 View Post
Not a good comparison, the biggest tubes are filled with stolen content given away for free. They are giving away shit that cost them nothing. There is nothing to adapt to. A regular tube goer is not going to go to a legal sponsored tube site with 2 mins video clips when he can go to red tube and get 20 min clips.
The problem is the "leaders" of our industry for the most part are short sighted.They see traffic and dont think about the ramifications.
Again mark my words what's going to happen:Tubes giving away mountains of free porn will be everywhere. Now you can say there is tons of free porn now. There is but non internet savy people dont understand newsgroups or BT's or TGP's for that matter but tubes are click and its all there. Countries will start banning porn on the net because its so easy for children to access.
Then people will have the balls to say why are they fucking with us.
I see your point Tony. I think you said it best, "The problem is the "leaders" of our industry for the most part are short sighted." The people of my industry were as well. They didn't see the big picture.

And as BFT3K said they didn't "retire" they literally lost it all. They shut down. They went broke. They lost their jobs and quit. Some remained. But in 1990 FX was so big, anyone could have walked in off the street and got a job.

And by evolve, I mean change. Adapt. If everyone is giving it away for free. we must evolve and use it to our advantage. I'm not claiming to know how to, I'm just saying, ignoring it will kill us. I've seen it happen.

If you were a program owner 6 years ago, and an affiliate said, "I want you to build a gallery for me and host it for me so I can post it on a TGP" you'd have told that affiliate to go fuck himself. If you didn't evolve, you'd have shut your operation down.

As for Ben, you're right, I have a lot to learn about tube sites. And I'm not telling anyone to do anything. I'm just comparing what I know to what I see happening.

And I hear and see the same complaints that I heard before FX shut down. "These computers are fucking things up", and "CGI is shit" are all things I heard before FX shops started scaling back on crews.

Again, I'm not saying I know the answer. Maybe the answer it unity thru us, and running our own tube sites that exploit redtube. Maybe it's pulling together and attacking him legally. Who knows? Maybe it's a major shift into some new business model, acquiring redtubes traffic and converting it back into membership traffic that we so love. Maybe we need more.. I mean A lobbyist.

If anything, I was just hoping to open a discussion where some decent ideas may come to light.
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