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"The magazine added that celebrities routinely grace its cover without appearing naked inside."
Since when? I'm not a regular reader of the rag, but I thought this was the exception, not the rule...-D.
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Alba should be grateful for the added exposure,but isn't it like those celeb rags that post celeb pics?Comment
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Well, she had already told them no...that she wouldn't pose for the cover and that she didn't want to be on it. I agree that she should be flattered that she was voted sexiest girl and has the cover but to some people that's not how the want to be represented. At the very least Playboy should have respected her right to not be on the cover and just used her pic inside the mag within the story like they had been give'n permission to do.Originally posted by Spunky
Sometimes big business is not about doing the right thing...it's about making big profits and keeping the shareholders happy.
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Someone post the pic of the cover...Comment
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I quite agree Dean. This is shaping up to look as though Playboy overstepped their bounds with this one.Originally posted by DeanCaptureWell, she had already told them no...that she wouldn't pose for the cover and that she didn't want to be on it. I agree that she should be flattered that she was voted sexiest girl and has the cover but to some people that's not how the want to be represented. At the very least Playboy should have respected her right to not be on the cover and just used her pic inside the mag within the story like they had been give'n permission to do.
Sometimes big business is not about doing the right thing...it's about making big profits and keeping the shareholders happy.
The controversy will no doubt increase publicity for Alba - but if she genuinely didn't want to be on the cover and initially turned Playboy's offer down...then she ought to be compensated properly for whatever damage to her image is determined.Comment
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bitch should be happy for the publicity
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Playboy is just LIke Microsoft in that they know that they will sell way more magazince because she is on the cover than they will ever have to pay if she sues.
So let's say that she sues and her lawyers will undoubtedly tell her that you don;t want to go toe-2-toe with Playboy in court because they have staff attorneys and it will cost millions in legal fees... then Playboy makes an offer to "settle out of court for an undisclosed amount". They keep a large portion of the profits from the "bait and switch" cover issue and everyone walks away happy.
Trust me the Playboy legal team ran the numbers on this a long time before the issue went to print.Earn up to $.03 per Visitor -> No Click Monetization!"Because the World Wide Web is all about two things: horrifyingly stupid psychodrama, and naked chicks."
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That makes her look like a whiner to me..Comment
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Originally posted by DeanCaptureSometimes big business is not about doing the right thing...it's about making big profits and keeping the shareholders happy.I shall refrain from making any GFY/GUBA comparisons.Originally posted by fr0gmanComment
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sounds like larry also (flynt)Originally posted by fr0gman
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Not everyone wants that type of publicity, and work hard their whole careers to avoid it actually.Originally posted by Daruma
edit: she's doing more for Playboy by being on the cover, than they are doing for her.Comment
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first playboy isnt even close to microsoft lol She has probably just as many lawyers as playboy has. Again it makes the industry looks creepy, the girl didnt want any thing to do with a adult magazine and they did it any way. Its very creepy.Comment
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i wouldnt be so sure of that - i bet her asking price fo the next film is increased not decreased because of this publicity - she doesnt exactly do disney filmsOriginally posted by aicoNot everyone wants that type of publicity, and work hard their whole careers to avoid it actually.
edit: she's doing more for Playboy by being on the cover, than they are doing for her.
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Originally posted by Daruma
See that's the difference, I am sure...
And if you think her asking price went up for being on the cover of Playboy, you're insane.Comment
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not insane - just saying it didn't hurt - it helped the bottom lineOriginally posted by aico
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Originally posted by Daruma
Don't you think that if being on the cover of Playboy would help a career, that all the stars would want to be on the cover? Where as the opposite is true, they all try their hardest to stay off of it.
What if she does want to do a Disney movie, or a Kids movie, now that will be even harder for her, as they might not was to hire someone who has been on the cover of Playboy...
Pamela Anderson has been on the cover of Playboy more than any other person. Don't really see her getting any movie offers that don't involve her showing off her tits now do you? Pretty much every tv show she is on now too, is because she produces it...Comment
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Originally posted by aico
your insane - just watch the trades for her next deal it will be higher $$ - 100%
pam is a different deal - she came from the slut side of the house from the beginning - not oranges and oranges
ps. i will add - if she agreed to the deal then it would be a wash - the fact that they did it without her a-ok - and the additional media exposure - there will be industry sympathy for her situation and her $ will not be affected - in fact she will get a bonus $$ from any settlement from playboy - so its a double win-winLast edited by Daruma; 03-03-2006, 07:59 PM.
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Originally posted by Daruma
LMAO... dude, I have no doubt her next movie deal will be more $$$ for her, cuz she is HOT right now. Which is WHY Playboy has her on their cover... her next deal being higher amount will have very little, if anything, to do with her being on the cover of Playboy...Comment
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we can be friendly and shit but i disagree - being on the cover will enhance her 'name' and image (in part) as the premier sex symbol of america right now - cover of playboy is an honor - its probably only her mom thats bitching about itOriginally posted by aico
btw - its shitty this thread has no good pics
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Originally posted by Daruma
Well then we can agree to disagree. I don't think being on the cover of Playboy is an honor. It's not that great of a magazine if you ask me.
The bottom line is, they asked, she said no, so they went to Sony got a production shot from them and used that.
She is on the cover because she was already voted as one of the sexiest girls, so her image as a premier sex symbol was already established, hence, why they put her on the cover.
I am pretty sure that if she wanted to be in Playboy, any time, day or night, she could be, they would never turn her down. The fact is that they had to go behind her back and against her wishes to get her on the cover.Comment
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Originally posted by aico
well from my perspective - she needs playboy more than playboy needs her
yes they asked and she refused and shit - that is behind the point now..
the only reason she sues is to save face with her family and maybe a couple of friends
the facts are that both she and playboy will make a lot more $ from this situation - rather than if it never happened..
its a win-win - pretty simple
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"she needs playboy" thats too funny lol Her one movie made more then playboy makes in a year lolOriginally posted by DarumaComment
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Did it ever occur to you that she may sue because she didn't want to be on the cover and they put her on the cover anyway? Maybe it has nothing to do with her family or her friends???Originally posted by DarumaComment
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Thank you...Originally posted by tony404Comment
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I think the problem is Dean, they are thinking of her like some web model and she is so far from that.Originally posted by DeanCaptureComment
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And thank you...Comment
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I agreeOriginally posted by tony404
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its all a stunt... i am sure that her agent is actually happy about the situation - but publically they need to show that she is sooooooo opposed to it and shit - its a stunt - there are NO loosers in this situation win-winOriginally posted by DeanCapture
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i really am sure that she / playboy both win in this - i am out of here soon - luis just showed up we're going out for a few drinks and to catch up on some old times
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I guess if she files the lawsuit and receives a settlement.... it wasn't a stunt right?Originally posted by DarumaComment
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Same publicist as Tom and Katie?Originally posted by Spunky
Ya its a win win for both of them.Comment
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lawsuit, $ doesnt mean shit - some stunts are 1 sided from the originOriginally posted by DeanCapture
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ps... i do know the holywood inside game pretty well... but ya - its a total win-win deal
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Her rights ended where Sony's began with the photo. If Sony decides to sue, that's a different matter. Unless, of course, she gets Norm Zada to work with her ;)Comment
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I'm not arguing with you anymore...you seem to know EVERYTHINGOriginally posted by Daruma
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i'm not that smart - but i have good friends in good locations.. as they say..Originally posted by DeanCaptureI'm not arguing with you anymore...you seem to know EVERYTHING
time out for good old friends.. chow
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Originally posted by Kimmykim
That's assuming you know what type of agreement she has with Sony... never assume.
I know of 2 suits against Playboy that they have lost, or settled on, for very similar reasons. So this is not something new to them.Last edited by aico; 03-03-2006, 10:35 PM.Comment
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Originally posted by aico
just walking out the door but ya - so that may be true but doesn't mean shit - they consider litigation and things like this suit publiciity just like any other advertising expense... in the end it helps the bottom line... say for example they settle for $5mil... they could not have bought all of the advertising space on cnn / abc / cbs / nbc /etc.. etc.. for that amount of $$ they win - she wins with new contracts that are worth a lot more than she would have gotten...
out and out.. luis and i finished our 2nd bottle of wine... time for some real drinks
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once again you guys are acting like she is some web girl who signed a model release and gave up her rights. That Sony photo was taken for the purpose of promoting a movie.Thats the only thing that photo can be used for, its not open ended.This is a girl with her own team of lawyers lolOriginally posted by KimmykimComment
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Originally posted by Darumawe can be friendly and shit but i disagree - being on the cover will enhance her 'name' and image (in part) as the premier sex symbol of america right now - cover of playboy is an honor - its probably only her mom thats bitching about it
btw - its shitty this thread has no good pics
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Dean, Aren't you a photographer? Doesn't the person that gave Playboy the picture, and I assume had the rights to do so, hold the responsibility putting Alba where she is?Originally posted by DeanCapture
Playboy asked her to shoot for them, I'm sure they offered her money to be nude. When that didn't work they probably said "well, what about just a cover?". That's a no, too. So Playboy goes to Sony. If Sony owns the copyright to that photo, sorry for her luck. Next time don't take publicity photos in bikini's you don't want to be on the cover of a magazine you don't approve.
here's a link from thesmokinggun.com
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I highly doubt they told sony we want to put her on the cover of playboy.If the purpose of the photo is to promote the movie, then thats the use of it. Your thinking of the blanket model releases we have girls sign. She doesnt sign those type of releases. lolOriginally posted by Hollywood376
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go to page 2 of smoking gun Jessica has specific aprovals and licenses for each use of the sony photos. Like I said she is not some web model lolComment
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I dont think that there will be any damage to her image. I think it will boost it for her.PornGuy skype me pornguy_epic
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You don't think Playboy (with decades of experience in dealing with the legalities of publishing photographs) told Sony that they were going to print the publicity photo? I'd bet $100 and my left nut that they specifically told them that they were printing her image in response to the poll that put her as top sexy biatch.Originally posted by tony404I highly doubt they told sony we want to put her on the cover of playboy.If the purpose of the photo is to promote the movie, then thats the use of it. Your thinking of the blanket model releases we have girls sign. She doesnt sign those type of releases. lol
If Sony owns the rights to the image, and they gave it to Playboy to publish, then Alba has nothing to stand on, legally.
And what kind of retard thinks that Alba doesn't sign releases? I have personally seen Jessica Alba sign a release, as well as countless other celebrities.
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