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  • collegeboobies
    So Fucking Banned
    • Jul 2004
    • 3644
    #51
    Originally posted by kane
    I wouldn't be so quick to think that. Recently there were many states that voted on banning gay marriage. There was a state recently that also voted on banning abortion and testing those waters. With the support of the prez a state by state ban on abortion (for those that did vote it in) could easily happen.

    A ban on booze out of sight? Hardly. There are still states that have dry counties. I can easily see how they could take the next step.

    I am all four state and local governments having a say in how they run and giving the citizens of those states and cities a voice in how they live, but I think anytime you start having one state voting to take away freedoms it is a bad situation and could eventually really divide the country.

    Yo dude the states can pretty much ban abortion or allow or ban gay marriage now. Whats gonna change on that? Not much. Everyone isnt for gay marriage, everyone isnt against abortion, yet we expect the whole country to obey one rule when its split almost 50/50?

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      • notoldschool
        Confirmed User
        • Aug 2007
        • 5687
        #52
        Originally posted by kane
        but I think anytime you start having one state voting to take away freedoms it is a bad situation and could eventually really divide the country.

        You mean this isnt already the fact? I think the country has been divided since its creation.
        No doubt one may quote history to support any cause, as the devil quotes scripture.
        -- Learned Hand

        http://www.bjpenn.com

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          • kane
            Too lazy to set a custom title
            • Aug 2001
            • 20684
            #53
            Originally posted by collegeboobies
            Yo dude the states can pretty much ban abortion or allow or ban gay marriage now. Whats gonna change on that? Not much. Everyone isnt for gay marriage, everyone isnt against abortion, yet we expect the whole country to obey one rule when its split almost 50/50?
            The difference is now you can fight this on a federal level and have it struck down. If we have a president that wants to promote this he could do away with that federal outlet.

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              • kane
                Too lazy to set a custom title
                • Aug 2001
                • 20684
                #54
                Originally posted by notoldschool
                You mean this isnt already the fact? I think the country has been divided since its creation.
                I understand that. I'm saying that giving states too much individual power could only make it worse.

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                  • collegeboobies
                    So Fucking Banned
                    • Jul 2004
                    • 3644
                    #55
                    kane:

                    You think he is going to get rid of the Supreme Court? He is not going to change the court systems or their decisions. He is going to shift responsibilities to different areas.
                    Last edited by collegeboobies; 01-12-2008, 11:53 AM.

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                      • kane
                        Too lazy to set a custom title
                        • Aug 2001
                        • 20684
                        #56
                        Originally posted by collegeboobies
                        kane:

                        You think he is going to get rid of the Supreme Court?
                        no I don't but what good is promising states expanded power if it will just be overseen/overruled by the supreme court? Let's take the abortion issue for example. If your state bans abortion then someone challenges it and it ends up before the supreme court and the supreme court says that roe v wade overrules the state law what is the point of passing the state law in the first place?

                        If you are going to expand the power of individual states you need to do something to make sure they can then use that power. I don't know what is plan it, but he must have something in mind.

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                          • Pleasurepays
                            BANNED - SUPPORTING TUBES
                            • Aug 2002
                            • 11913
                            #57
                            Originally posted by kane
                            no I don't but what good is promising states expanded power if it will just be overseen/overruled by the supreme court? Let's take the abortion issue for example. If your state bans abortion then someone challenges it and it ends up before the supreme court and the supreme court says that roe v wade overrules the state law what is the point of passing the state law in the first place?

                            maybe he's too busy smoking his 100% legal, totally risk free medical marijuana to grasp what you are saying.

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                              • baddog
                                So Fucking Banned
                                • Apr 2001
                                • 107089
                                #58
                                Originally posted by kane
                                I understand that. I'm saying that giving states too much individual power could only make it worse.
                                They think the south should have won.

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                                  • IllTestYourGirls
                                    Ah My Balls
                                    • Feb 2007
                                    • 14311
                                    #59
                                    The "game plan" was already written. It is called The Constitution

                                    Government is really simple if you just follow the instructions.

                                    Originally posted by TheDoc
                                    Dr. Paul is a great idea man, just read/listen to him, he has the best ideas ever... But that's all they are, ideas. With no game plan to back them up.

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                                      • notoldschool
                                        Confirmed User
                                        • Aug 2007
                                        • 5687
                                        #60
                                        Originally posted by IllTestYourGirls
                                        The "game plan" was already written. It is called The Constitution

                                        Government is really simple if you just follow the instructions.
                                        Quoted for truth.

                                        Originally posted by baddog
                                        They think the south should have won.
                                        Who are you referring to?
                                        No doubt one may quote history to support any cause, as the devil quotes scripture.
                                        -- Learned Hand

                                        http://www.bjpenn.com

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                                          • TheDoc
                                            Too lazy to set a custom title
                                            • Jul 2001
                                            • 13827
                                            #61
                                            Originally posted by IllTestYourGirls
                                            The "game plan" was already written. It is called The Constitution

                                            Government is really simple if you just follow the instructions.
                                            The constitution isn't a game plan, it's an idea on how to run the Gov. A game plan would be telling us how he is going to achieve some of more complex goals.
                                            ~TheDoc - ICQ7765825
                                            It's all disambiguation

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                                              • SifuE
                                                Confirmed User
                                                • Aug 2007
                                                • 877
                                                #62
                                                Vote RON PAUL
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