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  • slapass
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    • Nov 2002
    • 14625

    #1

    Ron Paul is a nut

    I saw someone advocating this guy for president in someones sig. The guy is a total nutjob. It is amazing what people think is a good idea.

  • charlie g
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    • Aug 2006
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    #2
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    • crockett
      in a van by the river
      • May 2003
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      #3
      I can't say he's a nut, but he's a little off his rocker. He sounds good for about 10 mins, but if he talks longer than that you see how far out he really is.

      Sure it sounds good to have smaller govt focused on our constitution. Sounds great in theory, yet lets look at what is wrong with this country now. It's lobbyist and politicians in their pockets.

      Ok reality check, by doing away with govt agencies it would be big business whom would take control with less regulations. Does that really sound better for the people? Sure our govt is far from perfect but I'd rather have them in charge than KBR / Halliburton.
      Last edited by crockett; 01-07-2008, 06:35 AM.
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      • slapass
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        • Nov 2002
        • 14625

        #4
        Originally posted by crockett
        I can't say he's a nut, but he's a little off his rocker. He sounds good for about 10 mins, but if he talks longer than that you see how far out he really is.

        Sure it sounds good to have smaller govt focused on our constitution. Sounds great in theory, yet lets look at what is wrong with this country now. It's lobbyist and politicians in their pockets.

        Ok reality check, by doing away with govt agencies it would be big business whom would take control with less regulations. Does that really sound better for the people? Sure our govt is far from perfect but I'd rather have them in charge than KBR / Halliburton.
        and there is like zero ideas on how we remake our entire govt. No IRS, no treasury, total free trade. I would like to give the total free trade idea a try but overall his ideas are just sound bites pretty much.

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        • Malicious Biz
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          • Mar 2005
          • 4575

          #5
          The guy is a total whack job.

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          • crockett
            in a van by the river
            • May 2003
            • 76818

            #6
            Originally posted by slapass
            and there is like zero ideas on how we remake our entire govt. No IRS, no treasury, total free trade. I would like to give the total free trade idea a try but overall his ideas are just sound bites pretty much.
            Well IMO we don't need to remake it but rather fix it. Three things we could do that would go a very long way at fixing things.

            1) Term limits on all public elected offices.

            2) No more lobbyists they should be illegal.

            3) No more campaign donations or gifts from corporations or special interest groups and there should be a limit of $500 from a individual per candidate per year.

            Take the money influence away and things will turn around.
            In November, you can vote for America's next president or its first dictator.

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            • Martin
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              • Dec 2001
              • 17278

              #7
              Not all of his idea's are bad. Either way I don't really care. I'm Canadian. I mean look who is in the white house now. lol.. Read up on what he believes.

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              • Malicious Biz
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                • Mar 2005
                • 4575

                #8
                Originally posted by crockett

                2) No more lobbyists they should be illegal.

                3) No more campaign donations or gifts from corporations or special interest groups and there should be a limit of $500 from a individual per candidate per year.

                Take the money influence away and things will turn around.
                That's not what Ron Paul Wants:
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                * Voted NO on requiring lobbyist disclosure of bundled donations. (May 2007)
                * Voted NO on campaign finance reform banning soft-money contributions. (Feb 2002)
                * Voted NO on banning soft money and issue ads. (Sep 1999)
                * Unlimited campaign contributions; with full disclosure. (Dec 2000)

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                • buzzy
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                  • May 2007
                  • 2606

                  #9
                  Obama with Ron Pauls froeign policy would be the perfect candidate.

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                  • charlie g
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                    • Aug 2006
                    • 2759

                    #10
                    Originally posted by crockett
                    .....

                    Sure it sounds good to have smaller govt focused on our constitution. Sounds great in theory, yet lets look at what is wrong with this country now. It's lobbyist and politicians in their pockets.

                    Ok reality check, by doing away with govt agencies it would be big business whom would take control with less regulations. Does that really sound better for the people? Sure our govt is far from perfect but I'd rather have them in charge than KBR / Halliburton.
                    There would still be corporate oversight from Dept of Justice. Take some of the workforce from the IRS and shift them into the INS and DoJ. The states will still have their regulatory agencies for corporate oversight.
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                    • crockett
                      in a van by the river
                      • May 2003
                      • 76818

                      #11
                      Originally posted by Malicious Biz
                      That's not what Ron Paul Wants:
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                      * Voted NO on requiring lobbyist disclosure of bundled donations. (May 2007)
                      * Voted NO on campaign finance reform banning soft-money contributions. (Feb 2002)
                      * Voted NO on banning soft money and issue ads. (Sep 1999)
                      * Unlimited campaign contributions; with full disclosure. (Dec 2000)
                      I never said RP said any of those things. I don't support him because I see past him. The people whom support him typically hear sound bytes of what he says about standing up for the constitution and all that kinda stuff.

                      However they fail to see that the vacuum left by getting rid of govt agencies would then be filled by Big Business. That is exactly what this country does not need and would cause the down fall of this nation.

                      All you have to do is look to the way insurance companies work in regards to health insurance. Look how Haliburtian and KBR work. Do we really need more of that?

                      No we simply need a govt whom acts on behalf of the citizens of this country rather than on behalf of big business/special interest.
                      Last edited by crockett; 01-07-2008, 07:58 AM.
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                      • Some Guy
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                        • Dec 2001
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                        #12
                        I've always said that there's something wrong upstairs with Ron Paul. You can tell just by watching him that he's missing something in the head.

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                        • MandyBlake
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                          • Nov 2002
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                          #13
                          when i first saw him talk on real time (i think that was the show), i really liked him. but as i got to know more and more about him, i'm passing.
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                          • Malicious Biz
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                            • Mar 2005
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                            #14
                            Originally posted by crockett
                            I never said RP said any of those things. I don't support him because I see past him. The people whom support him typically hear sound bytes of what he says about standing up for the constitution and all that kinda stuff.
                            I never said you did, I was just throwing that out there. I also completely agree. People really do need to deeply look into what he is all about with open eyes and consider it's downsides. Not just parroting the same old ron paul freedom rhetoric over and over.

                            Originally posted by crockett
                            All you have to do is look to the way insurance companies work in regards to health insurance. Look how Haliburtian and KBR work. Do we really need more of that?
                            That is exactly what you would get with Ron Paul. Because this guy supports big business all the way. Even more of the same with less government controls put in place. Sounds great on paper but in practice it would mostly likely end in disaster.

                            Originally posted by crockett
                            No we simply need a govt whom acts on behalf of the citizens of this country rather than on behalf of big business/special interest.
                            Ron Paul wants a government who sticks it's head in the sand and hopes for the best.

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                            • crockett
                              in a van by the river
                              • May 2003
                              • 76818

                              #15
                              Originally posted by MandyBlake
                              when i first saw him talk on real time (i think that was the show), i really liked him. but as i got to know more and more about him, i'm passing.
                              Same here.. He sounds on target for the first 10 mins.. First time I heard him I liked him. Then I started hearing how he wanted to get rid of pretty much everything govt run and turn it over to the private sector.

                              Bush and co have done that pretty well. Look how bad it's hurt us in Iraq and hell just look at the VA hospitals. When they were govt run, they were among the best of the best. Cheney pushed to turn the VA's over to private corporations and they went to total shit.

                              The corporations profited meanwhile the soldiers whom served this nation received sub-par treatment.

                              While govt is the 500lbs gorilla on our back, it's much better than letting Big Business run it. As they don't ever have to answer to anyone.
                              Last edited by crockett; 01-07-2008, 08:13 AM.
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                              • SifuE
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                                #16
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                                • tblake
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                                  • Sep 2007
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                                  #17
                                  The current Big Businesses don't work precisely because of big government involvement. When you have this massive federal bueracracy with so much money to spend, you get politicians rewarding their friends in big businesses with contracts for everything from healthcare, to energy to education.

                                  The current system is far from a free market. Its big government and big business.

                                  RP wants to kill the huge $$ going to the fed to stop the waste.

                                  For example- energy. If we invest 100 billion in new energy research, what you get is a lot of money going to lobbyist's interests and politicians friends earmarked to districts. If you sit back and let the market work, you get companies like Tesla and that bubble car company (300+ MPG) that will solve the problem in order to make a buck.

                                  Of course RP can't do all of that as pres. He has a long term vision for america and wants to get us on the track of a small federal government that is out of the lives of everyday americans and not policing the world. Sounds good to me.
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                                  • maddball
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                                    • Dec 2003
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                                    #18
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                                    • jmk
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                                      • Sep 2002
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                                      #19
                                      Originally posted by slapass
                                      I saw someone advocating this guy for president in someones sig. The guy is a total nutjob. It is amazing what people think is a good idea.

                                      Errrr "see Bush"

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                                      • baddog
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                                        • Apr 2001
                                        • 107089

                                        #20
                                        Originally posted by buzzy
                                        Obama with Ron Pauls froeign policy would be the perfect candidate.

                                        Originally posted by charlie g
                                        The states will still have their regulatory agencies for corporate oversight.
                                        If they can afford it.

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                                        • farkedup
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                                          • Nov 2007
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                                          #21
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                                          • BlueDesignStudios
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                                            #22
                                            he definitely has some different ideas

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                                            • WoW!
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                                              • Feb 2005
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                                              #23
                                              Your thread title has it backwards. What's nuts is what's going on now.
                                              Govt needs fixed a LOT deeper than a few patches here and there.
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                                              • WoW!
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                                                #24
                                                Originally posted by baddog



                                                If they can afford it.
                                                and the feds can?
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                                                • _Richard_
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                                                  • Oct 2006
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                                                  #25
                                                  I thought Paul was against free trade?

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                                                  • monstergalleriesdotnet
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                                                    • Sep 2007
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                                                    #26
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                                                    • Dvae
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                                                      #27
                                                      Originally posted by slapass
                                                      I saw someone advocating this guy for president in someones sig. The guy is a total nutjob. It is amazing what people think is a good idea.

                                                      FACT: All Canadians will vote for him.
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                                                      • slapass
                                                        Too lazy to set a custom title
                                                        • Nov 2002
                                                        • 14625

                                                        #28
                                                        Wow there was a few people saying america is really fucked up. Dudes you need to get out a bit. USA is really a pretty great place on lots of stuff. Not sure why anyone would want a revolution in the US.

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                                                        • TampaToker
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                                                          #29
                                                          lol gfy and politics don't mix well
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                                                          • xroach
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                                                            #30
                                                            The more you know about the subjects he talks about, the smarter he is.

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                                                            • xroach
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                                                              #31
                                                              Originally posted by crockett
                                                              I can't say he's a nut, but he's a little off his rocker. He sounds good for about 10 mins, but if he talks longer than that you see how far out he really is.

                                                              Sure it sounds good to have smaller govt focused on our constitution. Sounds great in theory, yet lets look at what is wrong with this country now. It's lobbyist and politicians in their pockets.

                                                              Ok reality check, by doing away with govt agencies it would be big business whom would take control with less regulations. Does that really sound better for the people? Sure our govt is far from perfect but I'd rather have them in charge than KBR / Halliburton.
                                                              Your completely missing the point of a free market.

                                                              Lobbyists have jobs because regulations are made by politicians which they can influence. Take that away and they lose control.

                                                              There's nothing wrong with competing regulations at state levels. Or consumer advocacy groups.

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                                                              • SifuE
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                                                                #32
                                                                Vote Ron Paul!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!
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