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DragonLily · 01-10-2008, 02:18 AM

Hello GFY!

I admit to being more of an entertained reader when visiting GFY rather than an active member but when I came across this post, I couldn't move on without adding my own bit in there just because it hit a mark.

I've worked with Kink.com steadily for the last 4 years as both a submissive(as Kayden was in this shoot) and as a domina(as her interviewer, Isis Love was in the shoot), have probably around 100 shoots under my belt with them and have never had such an experience as described in the initial post of this thread. I've first hand experience with the process from the moment a model steps into the building, to the rights that we have as models, implementation of safewords both gagged/ungagged, and basically the whole run of how shoots are conducted from start to finish and can safely say that ChadKnowsLaw is correct. Kink.com, is highly respectable of models in every way.

There have been some situations in which models from agencies would show up to the shoot without the slightest clue as to what the shoot would entail because of poor communication with their agents or what have you. Before the shoot even begins, before a model is even on set, the paperwork each model has to read and sign states that there will be possible levels of physical pain by means of say, electro stimulation, anal penetration, slapping of body parts, being tied up with ropes or metal and so forth, and all must be initialed. Now lets say a model skimmed through the paperwork and didn't bother to read its notation of all these possible situations, he/she still has a verbal discussion of limits as aforementioned by ChadKnowsLaw before you even get into wardrobe and then again after that on set before you're even interviewed. Then on top of all that, during the shoot breaks models are continuously asked if things are going and a pace that they can manage or if something isn't ok with them, or what they'd like more of. This process doesn't change no matter how many times you've worked with them. I know...as I said, I've gone through it nearly 100 times already as each director of Kink.com does not assume my limits or comfort level to be the same as the last time I shot with them as people change and Kink.com takes this into consideration for everyone's safety.

So in my experiences in which girls were clueless because of agencies not sharing with them the nature of the shoot, I've witness models either saying, no thank you and the day is cut short. I've been there when it intrigued them enough to give BDSM a taste and them using their safeword in the very first scene if it just wasn't their cup of tea without anyone having any sort of problem with ending it when safeword was either said or grunted. I've been there when they weren't aware of the nature of the sites prior to shooting, they shoot, and return over and over as I've done. Not once over the last 4 years have I ever had, or come to know of any other model through first hand experience, state that they've been treated in any unprofessional manner as Ricky Dynamite has posted.

I've used my safeword on several shoots myself for various reasons with the quickest success in being released from whatever was uncomfortable and having whatever temporary discomfort immediately rectified for me to either continue or me just calling it a day. My limits have always been respected and my rights never violated. I've the highest regard for Kink.com's work ethic and professionalism and find it very troubling for anyone to accuse Kink.com of doing anything of the like, especially since everything is always documented through paper, photos, and videos to continuously insure that our rights as models are taken seriously and handled with the utmost respect and care.

In regards to the post interview and there being speculation of a second part to that shoot, just take a look at the shooting calendar on Kink.com's sites. There isn't another shoot on the books for that day with Kayden so it never happened. Seemed to me that Isis Love was just putting an opening out there for Kayden to come back and play more since there seemed to have been a good enough rapport. Models aren't fed lines in the interviews, we're free to say exactly what we thought of the shoot and she still would've made her check regardless of what she'd say post shoot.

Unfortunate to read the initial post, but hopefully this helps to shine light back on to Kink.com's great name as I just don't find it at all possible that what was written could be true. And I too, find it strange that someone would post a warning to talent under the GFY webmaster board. Seems all it'll do is bump the name up for more promo interest anyway...highly suspect! I'll continue to whore out their good clean name because I know first hand that they're good for it.

Thanks for the read!
DragonLily

01-10-2008, 02:18 AM
DragonLily Registered User Industry Role: Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Las Vegas, NV Posts: 9	Hello GFY! I admit to being more of an entertained reader when visiting GFY rather than an active member but when I came across this post, I couldn't move on without adding my own bit in there just because it hit a mark. I've worked with Kink.com steadily for the last 4 years as both a submissive(as Kayden was in this shoot) and as a domina(as her interviewer, Isis Love was in the shoot), have probably around 100 shoots under my belt with them and have never had such an experience as described in the initial post of this thread. I've first hand experience with the process from the moment a model steps into the building, to the rights that we have as models, implementation of safewords both gagged/ungagged, and basically the whole run of how shoots are conducted from start to finish and can safely say that ChadKnowsLaw is correct. Kink.com, is highly respectable of models in every way. There have been some situations in which models from agencies would show up to the shoot without the slightest clue as to what the shoot would entail because of poor communication with their agents or what have you. Before the shoot even begins, before a model is even on set, the paperwork each model has to read and sign states that there will be possible levels of physical pain by means of say, electro stimulation, anal penetration, slapping of body parts, being tied up with ropes or metal and so forth, and all must be initialed. Now lets say a model skimmed through the paperwork and didn't bother to read its notation of all these possible situations, he/she still has a verbal discussion of limits as aforementioned by ChadKnowsLaw before you even get into wardrobe and then again after that on set before you're even interviewed. Then on top of all that, during the shoot breaks models are continuously asked if things are going and a pace that they can manage or if something isn't ok with them, or what they'd like more of. This process doesn't change no matter how many times you've worked with them. I know...as I said, I've gone through it nearly 100 times already as each director of Kink.com does not assume my limits or comfort level to be the same as the last time I shot with them as people change and Kink.com takes this into consideration for everyone's safety. So in my experiences in which girls were clueless because of agencies not sharing with them the nature of the shoot, I've witness models either saying, no thank you and the day is cut short. I've been there when it intrigued them enough to give BDSM a taste and them using their safeword in the very first scene if it just wasn't their cup of tea without anyone having any sort of problem with ending it when safeword was either said or grunted. I've been there when they weren't aware of the nature of the sites prior to shooting, they shoot, and return over and over as I've done. Not once over the last 4 years have I ever had, or come to know of any other model through first hand experience, state that they've been treated in any unprofessional manner as Ricky Dynamite has posted. I've used my safeword on several shoots myself for various reasons with the quickest success in being released from whatever was uncomfortable and having whatever temporary discomfort immediately rectified for me to either continue or me just calling it a day. My limits have always been respected and my rights never violated. I've the highest regard for Kink.com's work ethic and professionalism and find it very troubling for anyone to accuse Kink.com of doing anything of the like, especially since everything is always documented through paper, photos, and videos to continuously insure that our rights as models are taken seriously and handled with the utmost respect and care. In regards to the post interview and there being speculation of a second part to that shoot, just take a look at the shooting calendar on Kink.com's sites. There isn't another shoot on the books for that day with Kayden so it never happened. Seemed to me that Isis Love was just putting an opening out there for Kayden to come back and play more since there seemed to have been a good enough rapport. Models aren't fed lines in the interviews, we're free to say exactly what we thought of the shoot and she still would've made her check regardless of what she'd say post shoot. Unfortunate to read the initial post, but hopefully this helps to shine light back on to Kink.com's great name as I just don't find it at all possible that what was written could be true. And I too, find it strange that someone would post a warning to talent under the GFY webmaster board. Seems all it'll do is bump the name up for more promo interest anyway...highly suspect! I'll continue to whore out their good clean name because I know first hand that they're good for it. Thanks for the read! DragonLily __________________ Me? A cunt? Oh please,...stop flirting. DragonLily.net