Warning to talent looking to work for Kink

50 nipple twisters

ah, a little insight I think . . . . you like being spanked? tied up?

I think someone had bruises or marks that caused problems at home. (my 2cents)

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This story only helps promote KINK. This is what bondage guys love to fantasize about. Where is your affiliate link?

Love it.

Great, professional response from Kink, as expected.

The Post-shoot Interview

Here is a link to the interview conducted directly after the shoot:

http://news-data.behindkink.com/reso...eInterview.wmv

The pre-shoot interview is now being encoded and will be posted shortly.

"I got goose-bumps when you stick it in my butt" (big smile)

Great interview!

The story posted doesn't sound good but I agree with you.

She sounds fine to me in the post interview... good work, kink.com.

Watch the post-interview. Makes this thread a real joke.

That interview speaks for itself.

quote "I would do anything again with you."

It would seem that either the model was less than honest about the experience when speaking to the OP or else the OP was less than honest himself.

The interview puts an end to any and all speculation.

First off, while this isn't my thing, great set. I may have to consider promoting you guys. It looks like it must be great.

And the chick being interviewed is in love. You can tell she had a great time and would follow the other chick to the ends of the earth.

you can still answer my question

Sorry, I missed it.

I like all manner of things.

HOLY SHIT that chick is HOT!!

what a great post interview, would love to see the video

I will take that as I yes.

What is your safe word?

I've promoted Kink.com for years, and I knew the original post was some kind of bullshit as soon as I read it. Kink.com has a spectacular reputation in the BDSM world and among their talent. They're like Playboy back in the day, everybody wants to work with them.

Some of their stuff is heavy, but then you look at the post-scene interviews, with their models jazzed on endorphins and happy as proverbial clams. It's amazing, and it's consistent, and it's the work of skilled professionals who don't need to cut any corners. As the response here shows.

Somebody was trying to stir shit.

I can't even begin to tell you how well this stuff converts. These bondage/fetish guys are big spenders. Their retention rate is literally double any other program I've ever promoted.

I watched the video, and while Kayden seemed okay, I noted about halfway through the video that there was a discussion of another shoot to follow the same day (Kayden: "in five minutes", other girl: "as soon as we are done with this (interview)".

Is there a post-shoot interview from the subsequent scene, or did that shoot not occur?

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I took that part of things to be a joke.

Top says "Tomorrow I'll come. You'll still be tied up here"

Kayden says "I have to get back on there in like five minutes"

Top says "Soon as we're done with this" and Kayden laughs a bit.

I could be wrong but I did not think they were talking about an upcoming shoot, just joking around.

This stuff being BDSM or Kink in particular?

That exchange could be interpretted more than one way, which is why I asked if she shot any subsequent scenes, and if so, is there a follow-up video?

So far, Kink seems to be on the up and up, and it seems far fetched for anyone to claim Kayden was abused (beyond what she contracted for ), but the referenced exchange at least makes one ask if this is all there was, or if there was more.

Should be an easy one for Chad/Kink to answer...

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It is my understanding that the scene in question was shot yesterday, which brings the claims of nightmares into question, and she did not appear in any scenes today so no subsequent shoots.

There are pre-scene and post-scene interviews for every model, for every shoot. They are not encoded yet and all the encoders have gone home. I can get them to encode and upload those in the morning.
I myself am getting ready to call it a day and pack my bags for Vegas!

see you there Mr Belville

Don't you think you are being a bit too formal??? Mr. Belville is my dad~

He isn't going to be there?

"It is my understanding...", followed later by, "she did not appear in any scenes today so no subsequent shoots."

That is a lawyer-like answer. Then you go on to say other encoding is ongoing, which is irrelevent if it does not pertain to Kayden, and what was posted is her final interview with Kink.



One more thing...

The reason a flag was raised is that there could be some possible mis-direction involved when you say she did not appear in any subsequent scenes "today".

If I may re-phrase my question, was the post-shoot interview which was posted, created after the final scene that Kayden shot for Kink?

Otherwise, if there was another subsequent shoot with Kayden that same day as the interview posted, is there a post-shoot interview for that scene as well?

If she shot a scene following the interview posted earlier, and there is no subsequent interview, then it would seem that leaves room for Kayden's claims.

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The scene in question was shot yesterday. The interview that was posted was filmed after that scene.

She did not appear in any scenes today, so yesterday was her last shoot.

I intended to have the other pre- and post-scene interviews from her other scenes encoded and uploaded, although those were all prior to the scene from yesterday.




So, the answer to your question is an unequivocal "YES"

The interview that was posted was filmed after the last scene she shot for Kink.com




Sorry about the legal-ese. I didn't mean to sound like I was dancing around the question, but as I read it back it did. Does that answer your question?

Classy response, shows how much they value their affiliates too to publicize it here for us so quickly.

I thought professionalism was reserved for other industries?

So chad, can we at least get the whole movie? Throw us a frickin bone here! ;) Some of us wanna spank our monkeys y'know

That chick looks like a pretty hot slut. Would be worth it seeing her asshole getting rigged

There was no second shoot. After the shoot, the model returned to the talent office and was then driven to the airport.

Socks, we ALL enjoy that!!!

But this video was shot YESTERDAY. We need a little time to edit, encode, upload -- you know the drill! But in the meantime, I guess this is as good a time as any to mention that you can sign up as an affiliate at

www.kinkydollars.com

and start promoting Kink.com websites.


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Thanks Chad...I will seriously consider you if I should ever need representation.

As I stated earlier in this thread, I have heard nothing but good things about Kink, but since the issue was raised, I felt it deserved a definitive answer, which you appear to have delivered.

For anyone else shooting extreme content, you may want to consider following Kink's practice of shooting post-scene interviews.

BTW, I'm too squemish to look at the hardcore stuff, but I enjoyed the blog portions of the site, particulary the post of Peter's mother doing sculpture. Kudos to the Kink designers for their aesthetics and good design.

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Hello GFY!

I admit to being more of an entertained reader when visiting GFY rather than an active member but when I came across this post, I couldn't move on without adding my own bit in there just because it hit a mark.

I've worked with Kink.com steadily for the last 4 years as both a submissive(as Kayden was in this shoot) and as a domina(as her interviewer, Isis Love was in the shoot), have probably around 100 shoots under my belt with them and have never had such an experience as described in the initial post of this thread. I've first hand experience with the process from the moment a model steps into the building, to the rights that we have as models, implementation of safewords both gagged/ungagged, and basically the whole run of how shoots are conducted from start to finish and can safely say that ChadKnowsLaw is correct. Kink.com, is highly respectable of models in every way.

There have been some situations in which models from agencies would show up to the shoot without the slightest clue as to what the shoot would entail because of poor communication with their agents or what have you. Before the shoot even begins, before a model is even on set, the paperwork each model has to read and sign states that there will be possible levels of physical pain by means of say, electro stimulation, anal penetration, slapping of body parts, being tied up with ropes or metal and so forth, and all must be initialed. Now lets say a model skimmed through the paperwork and didn't bother to read its notation of all these possible situations, he/she still has a verbal discussion of limits as aforementioned by ChadKnowsLaw before you even get into wardrobe and then again after that on set before you're even interviewed. Then on top of all that, during the shoot breaks models are continuously asked if things are going and a pace that they can manage or if something isn't ok with them, or what they'd like more of. This process doesn't change no matter how many times you've worked with them. I know...as I said, I've gone through it nearly 100 times already as each director of Kink.com does not assume my limits or comfort level to be the same as the last time I shot with them as people change and Kink.com takes this into consideration for everyone's safety.

So in my experiences in which girls were clueless because of agencies not sharing with them the nature of the shoot, I've witness models either saying, no thank you and the day is cut short. I've been there when it intrigued them enough to give BDSM a taste and them using their safeword in the very first scene if it just wasn't their cup of tea without anyone having any sort of problem with ending it when safeword was either said or grunted. I've been there when they weren't aware of the nature of the sites prior to shooting, they shoot, and return over and over as I've done. Not once over the last 4 years have I ever had, or come to know of any other model through first hand experience, state that they've been treated in any unprofessional manner as Ricky Dynamite has posted.

I've used my safeword on several shoots myself for various reasons with the quickest success in being released from whatever was uncomfortable and having whatever temporary discomfort immediately rectified for me to either continue or me just calling it a day. My limits have always been respected and my rights never violated. I've the highest regard for Kink.com's work ethic and professionalism and find it very troubling for anyone to accuse Kink.com of doing anything of the like, especially since everything is always documented through paper, photos, and videos to continuously insure that our rights as models are taken seriously and handled with the utmost respect and care.

In regards to the post interview and there being speculation of a second part to that shoot, just take a look at the shooting calendar on Kink.com's sites. There isn't another shoot on the books for that day with Kayden so it never happened. Seemed to me that Isis Love was just putting an opening out there for Kayden to come back and play more since there seemed to have been a good enough rapport. Models aren't fed lines in the interviews, we're free to say exactly what we thought of the shoot and she still would've made her check regardless of what she'd say post shoot.

Unfortunate to read the initial post, but hopefully this helps to shine light back on to Kink.com's great name as I just don't find it at all possible that what was written could be true. And I too, find it strange that someone would post a warning to talent under the GFY webmaster board. Seems all it'll do is bump the name up for more promo interest anyway...highly suspect! I'll continue to whore out their good clean name because I know first hand that they're good for it.

Thanks for the read!
DragonLily

Great post Dragon Lily!

You should participate here more often...

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Thanks ADG! I think forum posting is the only place in my life in which I can say I've been shy or unsocialable, but I suppose this was a big enough push for me to start typing and logging in again instead of lurking.

guys you must understand, if your girlfriend would of come home fucked silly in the ass (not to mention she came a few times) and a little bruised from the ropes wouldn't you be pissed too?

Kink in general. You can promote other BDSM sites out there, but they're often generic looking with oversaturated content. One thing I noticed about the BDSM market, the surfers are real educated on whats out there. You can't slip past them a cookie-cutter site.

The average member so far has stayed 2.3 months (only been pushing about 6 months). It comes out to $37.43 per member so far. Those numbers are by far some of the best I've seen of late from a paysite in such a short period of time. They do some good cross-sells between their sites that you get credit for as well.

Safewords are for pussies

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That interview puts an end to this thread and to the cunt who made the first post.

I for one am signing up to promote this site now. Thanks for the post

Dragon Lily, where's pics of your boobs

PS - Kink = best adult company ever. Original poster is a joke...

Great response Chad

Seriously what the fuck does she think is going to happen shooting for kink?! If she can't handle that have her go do softcore for Max Hardcore or something

not pointing a finger or choosing sides... but what makes people think that just because a company is big that they follow the rules? do names like Michael Vick, Martha Stewert and Enron ring any bells?

why not consider it in another light? people with more money have more to lose but in the same light having more to lose means you have more to waste, ie: paying big fines and shit. if you were making a million a day and had to pay $25k a day out in fines. you'd keep doing it right? shit most of the people on this board would keep doing it if they were making $26k a day and had to pay $25k of it back.

It's different in a lot of ways Why.

The people you mentioned did things in their personal lives that contradicted their normal business ethics, for personal gain or some sort.

This instance would be doing something for their business that completely runs cross-ways to what the company is about.

Like... Martha Stewart doing a TV show with a poison recipe.. Or Michael Vick slipping in an exploding football into the game or something..

I don't see them making more money from abusing one of their models at all, I think it's the opposite. I think this thread is clear indication that their customers, affiliates and business partners like their clearcut policies, like that they treat models with dignity, and want to do more business with them because of it.

Not suggesting you saw that either, just saying in this case it doesn't make sense, as their reputation is everything. Abusing women is not good business in this business.

Also it should be noted that the customer base of Kink and someone like Max Hardcore are probably not the same pool.

Kink has a strong rep with models and has handled themselves very professionally. I m very impressed, if I never saw one of their banners on a tube site full of ripped content I might even like them.That interview footage means nothing really. The girl wants to get paid for the shoot she is going to say what has to be said to get the check or cash etc.