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Old 01-02-2008, 07:13 PM  
Robbie
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Smokey...how do I go into Nats and bring my server down? We had the exact same thing happen to us. We noticed it immediately. Not because our servers were slowed down...Good God man! Our NATS database has it's own server. There ain't nothing it can do to slow our sites down!
We noticed somebody in there and took our own steps to fix it. Quick and simple my friend. You didn't "set me straight" on anything.
Do you own a program and it's running NATS? Or are you just speculating my friend? I'm not trying to be disrespectful...it's just that I've seen much worse things happen before. If this were an earthquake it wouldn't even register on the Richter scale compared to some of the shit that has happened over the years.
And by the way...I NEVER said I have ever sold or bought a single email address. Contrary to what some may think...I personally don't see any value in them. Don't do email campaigns and never will. I HATE fucking spam.
What I said is...emails are bought and sold everyday. And people who are really in the biz know that. It's always been so. And HELL NO they don't cost no 20 cents a piece! More like 20 cents per THOUSAND.
And members area email addresses? Golden? If you think so. Hell, maybe I will sell mine after all. How about that 20 cents each deal? That's a lot cheaper than that dollar quote in that story! Come on man! I'm gonna make you rich! I've got thousands and thousand of members emails! Just think of all the money you'll make!
By the way, I'm just kidding. I would never sell those email addresses anyway. I'm just trying to show you that there is exaggeration in that story. And no, I'm not the one exaggerating. I'm the guy quoting the story and questioning it.
And Chimera1 you said: "The program owners with an investment are naturally struggling to find justifications in keeping the software and are more inclined towards belief.... Maybe that too is something to argue about.

They have much to lose and gain in this and their defenses and arguing are expected, though maybe not entirely logical."
Gain? Lose? This doesn't change anything for a program owner. You fix the problem. What else do you do? Everybody and anybody and anything can and will be hacked.
I'm not gonna cry and go home. I just had the most profitable month in my life in Dec. Now Jan. is starting off even bigger than Dec started.
I'm looking full speed ahead baby! And if some asshole hacks NATS again...We'll all fix it again. Same as any other backend.
One real good thing came out of this. It showed everyone that we all need to be more diligent and not depend on a rented software to do our work for us in protecting our shit. There's the silver lining. A lot of us didn't really give much thought to that before. Now we've turned our attention to it. And that's a good thing right?
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