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Originally Posted by charlie g
You have me mistaken for someone else. I have never called anyone brainwashed. I don't have an agenda, vote for the person you want.
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if thats true, then i apologize. seems to me like everyone is a broken record on this issue and parroting the same rhetoric.
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The only blanket statement I have ever written is that if you don't support Paul then you support a larger, more intrusive government- which I stand by.
Please Pleasure, tell me why Ron Paul is such a kook, specifically. Just one point in your opinion why he is too crazy to be the POTUS.
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i've went into detail on this many times.
you just made my point again by saying "if you don't support Ron Paul, then you support....."
This is where you totally derail off the reality track in my opinion and this sentiment which you expressed is one of those common talking points of his supporters. Not supporting him means i'm automatically "wrong". That's total lunacy... but you don't see it that way at all. In fact, you are not even open to debating issues or considering any other view points. Thats a problem. Thats a problem Ron Paul supporters have. There is no discussion. its like talking to someone insisting the government blew up the WTC.
You are careful to say that you respect others choices, but as your statement above shows, you clearly don't. You have made it clear that there is only one
real choice and anyone who choses different is choosing wrong. That again, the typical naïveté and close mindedness of the Ron Paul crowd.
Why do i think he's a kook? I don't really. He isn't trying to get the nomination. He has no intention of running for President. he is shaking things up a bit and forcing people to talk about entirely new and different things. I think thats good.
Had he been seriously trying to get the nomination, I was say he's a total lunatic for how he presents his ideas. Everything Ron Paul stands for is about tearing things apart. About dissembling government. He intentionally makes sensationalistic remarks and statements like that he'll dismantle the IRS on his first day in office. What you refuse to accept is that the people, the House and the Senate also have to be on board with him... not just a few million 20 year olds on random college campuses. Leadership in part is about effectively communicating a vision and getting people on board, not just repeatedly making bizarre remarks about how he is going to totally undo a lot of the federal government (presumably with or without the other branches of government or even popular support).
it really doesn't matter what i say. I know that. Ron Paul for you guys at this point, is a religion and he is the messiah. while the rest of the country are carefully paying attention to ALL the candidates, weighing their positions, and assessing them, you guys are at a complete loss as to how everyone can deny the messiah has come.
You point to conspiracies in the media to keep his message quiet... totally ignoring that its one people heard and they just don't like it. Ron Paul supporters have to call others brainwashed like the typical 9/11 conspiracy theorist because in the minds of most Ron Paul supporters, there simply can't be any other explanation as to why the average American would deny the message of Ron the Messiah... and its bordering on scary at this point.
When you have decided that there is no other acceptable opinion or view than your own... or that your own subjective opinions and preferences are in fact, objective facts.... then you are starting down the path of becoming a danger to others. You have adopted the thinking of the Hitlers, the Stalins, the Lenins, and the Mao Tse-tungs of the world. They too knew what was better for the masses. They too knew that the majority was wrong and shouldn't be trusted to define their world. They too knew that people simply needed a handful of people to make the bulk of their decisions for them. They too knew that people simply needed to be reprogrammed and their thinking changed.... because the people were denying such obvious truths as to what is best for them and for the country and for the future.