20k a month...
Hard to say...a gallery a day on the hun in a top spot could easily do that. So the answer would be 1.
But lets look from an "normal" submitters view with a good amount of partner accounts and a nicely tweaked list with 2 years experience. 5 fore sure. But 8 would make thing easier.
1. How much money do YOU make now, on the internet, adult related?
2. are you better off submitting 4 tgp galleries a day to tgps, or submitting 2 galleries, then making an avs site with those 2 galleries as the content, then a free site with those 2 galleries as the content?
how much whining and complaining do I have to do to become a millionaire around here?
Whining and complaining won't get you rich. BUT ofcourse if you have a pay per post sig its extra money and it gives you a board personality. And my board personality has made me money for sure and gave me many oppertunities "unknown" people dont have.
1. How much money do YOU make now, on the internet, adult related?
This thread is not about me and even if it was i wouldnt tell it.
I should be fucking rich by now but im not because im terribly lazy. I do well though but i also spend a lot
Originally posted by clickhappy
2. are you better off submitting 4 tgp galleries a day to tgps, or submitting 2 galleries, then making an avs site with those 2 galleries as the content, then a free site with those 2 galleries as the content?
Good question actually. Personally i never did too well with avs and free sites. The ratios are nice but the traffic isnt. I think in the end tgping/mgping is easier and less work for the same amount of money or most likely more. I know tgp submitters who do 20k a month, i dont know anyone who makes that off avs. Sure there are some though but its a dying race.
I wouldnt replace tgp submitting with avs. I would only do it as an extra. So 4 galleries AND avs/free site.
Thats so hard to say because...uhm..lets take hentai for example. I do extremely well with hentai. It converts 5 times better than my teen sponsors but at the same time its 5 times easier to get 5 times as much teen traffic.
So best converting, i'd say hentai, tranny, amateur, bizarre. At least those are my top converters but there simply is less traffic for those niches so in the end i'm honestly not sure whats the most lucrative.
But if you can manage to get a the same traffic for tranny as for teen without a problem then id say go for tranny for sure.
Are you still using Bighip? What were your experiences with it? Have you found anything better?
I'm not doing anything at all mailing wise. I still collect my emails but not through bighip anymore. Bighip is a very nice system but my main problem was the quadripple optin system with remove me links all over the place. Now im all for legal mailing and optin but they almost encourage people to opt out. I did a few mailings through their system and you lose a huge amount of subscribers per mailing. Plus they are not cheap and since i only collected a small amount of mails per day it was not worth it for me.
But the big plus with them ofcourse is the fact that they get in most email boxes. Its hard to do that (in a legal way).
This thread is not about me and even if it was i wouldnt tell it.
I should be fucking rich by now but im not because im terribly lazy. I do well though but i also spend a lot
This has nothing to do with you, because I dont know you, but I have a hard time following the advice of anyone who isnt successful themselves.
I mean if AL4A pops on and wants to give advice Ill listen to it, but if sexy-thumbs-tgp.com wants to give advice I couldnt give a fuck
There are a lot of losers who will want to give advice because it makes them feel important, but theyre also the first ones to pop into a thread and say "SEE SIG" because they want the extra .25 cents from someone clicking their sig, and that isnt the kind of person whose advice I give much credence to.
so who are you?
Originally posted by Franck
Personally i never did too well with avs and free sites. The ratios are nice but the traffic isnt. I think in the end tgping/mgping is easier and less work for the same amount of money or most likely more. I know tgp submitters who do 20k a month, i dont know anyone who makes that off avs. Sure there are some though but its a dying race.
I wouldnt replace tgp submitting with avs. I would only do it as an extra. So 4 galleries AND avs/free site.
do you have actual experience "in the trenches" making and submitting freesites and avs sites, or did you try it once or twice and gave up? or did you hear is wasnt good so youre saying it here?
honest question, not trying to flame you here as I dont know you and dont get into flaming on boards.
I just want to know what you REALLY know about this.
This has nothing to do with you, because I dont know you, but I have a hard time following the advice of anyone who isnt successful themselves.
I mean if AL4A pops on and wants to give advice Ill listen to it, but if sexy-thumbs-tgp.com wants to give advice I couldnt give a fuck
There are a lot of losers who will want to give advice because it makes them feel important, but theyre also the first ones to pop into a thread and say "SEE SIG" because they want the extra .25 cents from someone clicking their sig, and that isnt the kind of person whose advice I give much credence to.
so who are you?
do you have actual experience "in the trenches" making and submitting freesites and avs sites, or did you try it once or twice and gave up? or did you hear is wasnt good so youre saying it here?
honest question, not trying to flame you here as I dont know you and dont get into flaming on boards.
I just want to know what you REALLY know about this.
Ive been working "full time" online for the last 5 or 6 years. yes im still a loser. I should be a millionair by now but im not. Why? Because im lazy, i lack motivation. But i do have experience in a lot of different things internet related. Some more than others. I do/did everything from free sites to paysites, to content, to mailing, to lately mgp submitting. Some things failed, some things made me mad money.
Im not for hire but if a boss would actually made me work 8 hours a day i would make him very, very good money.
Im often thinking about actually hiring a boss hahaha.
No seriously, i guess its almost like a therapy posting here. The asshole i am on gfy, the nice guy i am irl. I love bashing assholes and i love getting bashed.
My posts are real and i mean what i say but im simply not an ass irl.
No seriously, i guess its almost like a therapy posting here. The asshole i am on gfy, the nice guy i am irl. I love bashing assholes and i love getting bashed.
My posts are real and i mean what i say but im simply not an ass irl.
There are a few people on this board who i truly hate and i wont suddenly be their friend if i meet them at a convention. I would ignore them but there are a few people here i bash all the time who i would buy a beer for sure. Most likely because i really wonder what motivates them to do the stuff they do. Vitasoy being one of them i guess.
How often do you switch sponsors - do you ever submit the same content twice but with different templates?
I try to stick with the same sponsors as long as possible (if they convert ofcourse) I love programs like adult elite. Many sites, so far each one i try converts and plenty of promo content. I rather push another site from their program then signup for a new sponsor.
And ofcourse i do more than submitting but no, i never (at least not on purpose) submit the same content twice. Maybe sometimes some movies from the same set but not the same movies.
Say you had a sponsor that had 70 movie sets from one site - would you submit one set per day, or would you space it out more to make those sets last longer?
And how many sponsors do you try to submit in the same week?
Say you had a sponsor that had 70 movie sets from one site - would you submit one set per day, or would you space it out more to make those sets last longer?
And how many sponsors do you try to submit in the same week?
If a site really converts good i try to space it out a bit. But now i think off it theres no real reason for it...just a feeling i have i guess. What i would never do is submit for my best converting site twice a day. The first gallery you submit every day always gets the most traffic. So if you submit your best converting sponsor twice then the 2nd gallery will get less traffic so i would wait at least 24 hours before i submit for that site again.
In a week i try to cover all my sponsors. When i do 5 submits a day i try to cover 5 different niches. Not 5 different sponsors perse, just as long the sites are different.
And ofcourse i try to get my best converting sponsors the most traffic. For example, a paid partner pass which you can use to submit 1 gal a day, i make sure my top sponsors get that spot.
SIG TOO BIG! Maximum 120x60 button and no more than 3 text lines of DEFAULT SIZE and COLOR. Unless your sig is for a GFY top banner sponsor, you may use a 624x80 instead of a 120x60. Let me repeat... A 120 x 60 button and no more that 3 lines of DEFAULT SIZE AND COLOR text.
Metatags, text on the gallery itself, title and lets not forget good image alt tags. Those alt tags can result in so much traffic its ridiculous im not abusing it.
SIG TOO BIG! Maximum 120x60 button and no more than 3 text lines of DEFAULT SIZE and COLOR. Unless your sig is for a GFY top banner sponsor, you may use a 624x80 instead of a 120x60. Let me repeat... A 120 x 60 button and no more that 3 lines of DEFAULT SIZE AND COLOR text.
hmm interesting comments, quite frankly good traffik outsells TGP traffic on any day.
I know tgp submitters who do 20k a month, i dont know anyone who makes that off avs. Sure there are some though but its a dying race.
I wouldnt replace tgp submitting with avs. I would only do it as an extra. So 4 galleries AND avs/free site.
I totaly don't agree on that,
1: a good premuim avs site will kill any TGP site in rebills
2:We have several webmaster making more then 20K a month with our AVS, now AEN acording to Visa lol.
yes i agree the shitty avs will be gone soon as it will be replaced with large all access paysites or premium avs systems
- site with 10 galleries and no content will make nothing, but any good build site with movie and image galleries that is updated on regular bases will oursell any TGP site.
I think you the best would be making a great AVS premium site and then work TGP to get traffic t that site and other traffixc sources as well
i think everybody needs to find their own system as what works for me usualy does no work for everyone else.
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