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02-24-2006, 07:57 PM

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02-25-2006, 12:30 AM

Originally posted by aico

LOL, I didn't copy and paste shit. I typed it as I read it from the book which I quoted, a book I own, because I have been in the Graphic Design business for over 15 years. You want me to scan it in for you? Cuz it's pretty hard to copy and paste a book.

You should look up the word "design" before you start acting like you know what it means... Design is not a process, however, Graphic Design is.

You obviously know nothing about Graphic Design, so why don't you shut the fuck up it, and go write in a thread about *nix or something you do know about.

Why you even chimmed in here with your stupid ass remark is beyond me, especially when someone already said your brilliant remark several posts before you.

For someone claiming to be all that, you sure sound like you need to re-assure yourself a lot.

Oh, and design IS a process, dumbass. Look it up, I'm sure you can afford another book.

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02-25-2006, 12:38 AM

Peace man, peace!

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#54

02-25-2006, 02:25 AM

Originally posted by woj

stop hiring $2/hr "designers" and you won't have that problem...

I shall forward this post on to the person who did the hiring so that they can see why it took me so long to get the designs online after they were handed to me.

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02-25-2006, 06:01 AM

It's your own fault...ya'll are so fucking cheap anymore...as it has been said 1,000 times before...you get what you pay for. Pay a premium to a premium designer get a premium product and no problems. Pay pennies to a worthless owner of Photoshop and get a worthless mess delivered. One day you guys will learn.

Personally, the only adult shit I design anymore is for myself. However, mainstream design paid me over $100,000 last year and I never worked more than a 40 hour week. I can write .php and work with MySQL...I am abundantly proficient in CSS & CSS2 and all my HTML is clean and compliant across ALL browsers...and I use a minimal amount of tables and very few nested tables so my shit loads FAST. In other words, my employer and clients get what they pay for.

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02-25-2006, 08:29 AM

Originally posted by GFX Wiz

It's your own fault...ya'll are so fucking cheap anymore...as it has been said 1,000 times before...you get what you pay for. Pay a premium to a premium designer get a premium product and no problems. Pay pennies to a worthless owner of Photoshop and get a worthless mess delivered. One day you guys will learn.

Personally, the only adult shit I design anymore is for myself. However, mainstream design paid me over $100,000 last year and I never worked more than a 40 hour week. I can write .php and work with MySQL...I am abundantly proficient in CSS & CSS2 and all my HTML is clean and compliant across ALL browsers...and I use a minimal amount of tables and very few nested tables so my shit loads FAST. In other words, my employer and clients get what they pay for.
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#57

02-25-2006, 08:32 AM

"1.jpg is NOT the same thing as 1.JPG.

k? Thanks."

And not one of you know why most likely.

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#58

02-25-2006, 08:36 AM

Originally posted by aico

DamageX said, and I quote, "That has ZERO to do with HTML."

Really? By knowing HTML I know that a page that has that tag <img src="image.JPG"> will not load an image called image.jpg

So seems to me that is does have something to do with knowing HTML.

It will on an NT server.

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#59

02-25-2006, 09:48 AM

Originally posted by DamageX

That has ZERO to do with HTML.

It took a while to recognise it

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#60

02-25-2006, 11:04 AM

Originally posted by AlienQ

"1.jpg is NOT the same thing as 1.JPG.

k? Thanks."

And not one of you know why most likely.

all i need to know is linux/unix capitalization is important in file names, and in windows it does not matter (and I think novell for that matter).
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02-27-2006, 11:35 PM

sinnerscorner, said and I quote, "It is a beneift when designers know more about implementing a design on.... nice info...

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#62

02-28-2006, 05:34 AM

Originally posted by wdforty

I hate it when I see designers use the default photoshop HTML for tours with 30 little spacer images in it.

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There is way too many so-called designers out there who can't put 2 line of code by themselves....
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#63

02-28-2006, 05:53 AM

Originally posted by DamageX

Nope, it doesn't. If you have no idea that *nix OS's will see lowercase and uppercase letters as different, then its is not your fault. Being familiar with various OS's filesystems is not a requirement for doing design.

And knowing the difference between metric and imperial measurement systems is not a requirement for a carpenter ... but I'd want to be sure before hiring them to redo my basement!
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#64

02-28-2006, 06:07 AM

designers should know some html... But I think most of them do! at least the basics!

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02-28-2006, 06:13 AM

bump for this thread! very useful one!

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#66

02-28-2006, 06:19 AM

Set your FTP program to "convert to lowercase".

I think every half-assed ftp program on the planet has had that option for 10 years now

Then find/replace to be on the safe side.

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#67

02-28-2006, 06:34 AM

And <img src="whatever.swf"> simply will NOT work!!!
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02-28-2006, 07:13 AM

Originally posted by sinnerscorner

A designer'created something do you really think he/she
cares about upper or lowercase? A search and replace can fix
lot although I agree a good designer should make its work
webready .

being a 'creative type' doesn't make a designer incapable of error checking
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#69

02-28-2006, 07:17 AM

Originally posted by aico

Oh and the last time I looked this thread was about how some "designers" don't know that .JPG and .jpg will cause a problem, and not really about HTML at all. Did you even read the thread or did you just come in her to look smart, to only end up looking like a retard?

jesus christ, give it a rest. no one cares.
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02-28-2006, 07:32 AM

Originally posted by GFX Wiz

It's your own fault...ya'll are so fucking cheap anymore...as it has been said 1,000 times before...you get what you pay for. Pay a premium to a premium designer get a premium product and no problems. Pay pennies to a worthless owner of Photoshop and get a worthless mess delivered. One day you guys will learn.

Damnit, I've hired several different design firms and it's very rare, even with the pricey firms, to get a good, solid design. Mostly you get a photoshop design, chopped up and html spit out automatically by photoshop and emailed over. 400kb index.html? No problem they tell you. 500 spacer images? That's just how design goes. Spelling mistakes, grammatical errors? I guess I as the client should fire up my photoshop and fix it, unless I want to pay $80/hour to get it done with those premium designers.

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02-28-2006, 07:37 AM

Originally posted by woj

stop hiring $2/hr "designers" and you won't have that problem...

true. but it's really better when designer works with coder together unless he's experienced in html. But topic starter's thing is freaking simple.

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02-28-2006, 07:38 AM

Have I mentioned how incredibly happy I am that GTS now has MachineGunKelly?? Now there's a boy who knows his stuff. Learning DHTML and bits and pieces of PHP... much less simple HTML.

He knows how to make every single image look awesome, load fast and keep everything else all pieced together at the same time. No broken images, no messed up HTML pages, tons of spaces or other crap.

It's been awesome working with such quality

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02-28-2006, 07:45 AM

Originally posted by kievdesign

true. but it's really better when designer works with coder together unless he's experienced in html. But topic starter's thing is freaking simple.

That's the key RIGHT there ,
I'm now seated beside a great coder and have all ready learned quite a few things .

I know first hand that MOST designers don't know much code , as I didn't for a long time , recently I've picked up alot off Stuart, as well as honing my skills on my own ( Only been here a week so the futures where it's at ) but just those FEW things have opened thousands of opportunities !

Originally posted by StuartD

Have I mentioned how incredibly happy I am that GTS now has MachineGunKelly?? Now there's a boy who knows his stuff. Learning DHTML and bits and pieces of PHP... much less simple HTML.

He knows how to make every single image look awesome, load fast and keep everything else all pieced together at the same time. No broken images, no messed up HTML pages, tons of spaces or other crap.

It's been awesome working with such quality .

Thanks Stuart ! Been awesome working with a great coder that can take the stuff I previously couldn't make function on my own and turn it into a functioning masterpiece !

WATCH OUT folks .. GTS is gonna take over the world

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