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02-23-2006, 07:44 PM

Greetings All:

Ok, I used to be an award winning member of the Society of American Magicians for several years.

Don't act so surprised, I'm a faggot wtf did you expect?

The awards that I won were in "slight of hand", but I'm well versed in all areas of the art.

Because of years of study, I know how virtually all "magic tricks" and "illusions" are done, so if you ever wanted to be demystified, ask in here and I shall answer!

I've actually met many famous magicians in person on many different occasions (including David Copperfield), and have attended lectures by some of the best.

Now I just think it's all pretty god damn gay, so ask away! Secrets Revealed!
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02-23-2006, 07:48 PM

How does Chris Angel pull this disgusting trick off?
http://www.collegedowntime.com/media...magictrickever

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02-23-2006, 07:51 PM

tell us more ;-)
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02-23-2006, 07:52 PM

how'd they get off?

my sig caught gonoherpasyphilaids and died
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02-23-2006, 07:52 PM

I know all of the "street magic" tricks.

All you have to do is go to your local magic shop.

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02-23-2006, 07:53 PM

How does Copperfield make huge things disappear?

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02-23-2006, 07:57 PM

Originally posted by Downtime

How does Chris Angel pull this disgusting trick off?
http://www.collegedowntime.com/media...magictrickever

That is a variation of 2 seperate tricks.

1. developed by Harry Anderson (he was the judge from night court and a well known stage magician) about 5 years back known as the "Needle Through The Arm Trick".

http://www.ellusionist.com/order/needle-through-arm.htm

Basically the kit came with a jar of rubber cement to glue folds of skin together, and a prop needle that had a hollow tube and some well made stage blood

2. Utilizing "the raven" device which is used by many magicians for effects requiring movement or vanishment.

http://www.magictricks.com/closeup/raven.htm

Basically a rare earth medal magnet attached to a piece of elastic with some fishing line coming from the end of one end where the magnet is, and a safety pin at another.
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02-23-2006, 07:57 PM

Originally posted by Downtime

How does Chris Angel pull this disgusting trick off?
http://www.collegedowntime.com/media...magictrickever

Gee that's hot

how he does that ? Fake skin on the arm ?
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02-23-2006, 07:57 PM

This one - healed and sealed soda can.
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02-23-2006, 08:01 PM

Real magicians don't reveal their secrets.
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02-23-2006, 08:02 PM

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how'd they get off?

With a fleshlight.
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02-23-2006, 08:04 PM

my sig caught gonoherpasyphilaids and died
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02-23-2006, 08:07 PM

how does chris angel levitate!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?

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02-23-2006, 08:08 PM

Originally posted by volante

This one - healed and sealed soda can.

Everyone knows that there aren't soda cans laying around in the hood that haven't already been converted into crackpipes.

The pop can was partially emptied through a pin hole then sealed, allowing it to condense. The can was then partially collapsed, and a secondary "cap" was added which makes the can appear open, he later "palms" that cap off to reveal the true unopened cap beneath.

Notice he "shakes it" which allows the remaining contents to fiz and expand enough to cause the the condensed can to expand.
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02-23-2006, 08:08 PM

Originally posted by BoyAlley

Ok, I used to be an award winning member of the Society of American Magicians for several years

very cool bro
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02-23-2006, 08:12 PM

Originally posted by BoyAlley

Everyone knows that there aren't soda cans laying around in the hood that haven't already been converted into crackpipes.
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02-23-2006, 08:15 PM

Originally posted by sonofsam

how does chris angel levitate!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?

Unfortunately Chris Angel mixes in what we call "true life" and "post production" illusion. Aka tricks performed in front of a real audience along with camera trickery added in after the fact.

For the "true life" levetation he uses an overly gimmicked variant of what's known as the "bengali levitation".

Basically it involves having a shoe with the heel cut away from the sole, then standing on your tippy toes. With a side angle at the right distance, spectators can't see that you're litterally standing on 1 foot, on your tippy toes, because the shoes both "levetate", while your foot is hidden by perspective.

The rest of it is plain and simpy wires, stooges, and camera manipulation. Many in the "industry" look down upon his specials for mixing "magic" in with "camera tricks".
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02-23-2006, 08:17 PM

what about walking through a glass window?

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02-23-2006, 08:17 PM

wow.

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02-23-2006, 08:17 PM

who was the best magician?
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02-23-2006, 08:19 PM

Originally posted by Babagirls

what about walking through a glass window?

The "glass" window had a circular hole cut in it, hidden by the hollowed wall below. When the newspaper goes up, so does the plexiglass, putting the hole behind the newspaper.

The "open" sign was attached to the wall, not the glass, allowing it to stay stationary, and creating the illusion that the glass was staying still when in fact it was moving up and down.

The guy in the room with Chris was a stooge.
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02-23-2006, 08:22 PM

Originally posted by BoyAlley

Unfortunately Chris Angel mixes in what we call "true life" and "post production" illusion. Aka tricks performed in front of a real audience along with camera trickery added in after the fact.

sounds like that takes a lot of the fun out of it..."true life" is better
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02-23-2006, 08:27 PM

Originally posted by BoyAlley

The "glass" window had a circular hole cut in it, hidden by the hollowed wall below. When the newspaper goes up, so does the plexiglass, putting the hole behind the newspaper.

The "open" sign was attached to the wall, not the glass, allowing it to stay stationary, and creating the illusion that the glass was staying still when in fact it was moving up and down.

The guy in the room with Chris was a stooge.

you could tell that guy was an actor.

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02-23-2006, 08:28 PM

http://video.google.com/videoplay?do...6&q=card+trick

How is that card trick done?
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02-23-2006, 08:29 PM

Originally posted by Spider Ninja

who was the best magician?

To me many of the best magicians are ones that you've never heard of.

There are really 2 classes when it comes to "stage illusion" which most of the big names fall in.

1. The performers
2. The inventors

The real "magic" is created by craftsmen and engineers who devise, develop, and create the actually "tricks" that you see on TV and at the large stage shows. Experts and artisans in electrical engineering, cabinet making, lighting design, and so on.

Those "in the industry" know and appreciate the names of these creative and talented people, the public never will.

The "performers" are those like David Copperfield that have the stage presence and personality to turn some fancy cabinetry and electrical work into "magic".
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02-23-2006, 08:31 PM

Originally posted by sonofsam

how does chris angel levitate!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?

The levitation trick where he floats up onto a chair or low wall is done using specially prepared trousers and shoes. The shoes are actually slippers - they have a very low back so that his feet can slip in and out of them easily. The shoes also have very strong, rare-earth magnets along the inside edge so that when he puts his feet together, the shoes stick to each other. The bottom of the right trouser leg is attatched to the back of the right shoe, the right trouser leg has a flap covering an opening at the front (so he can get his leg out) and curved plastic inserts in the back so when he removes his leg the trousers retain their shape. To perform the trick he walks up to the chair, puts his feet together so the shoes stick to each other, lifts his right leg through the hidden opening up onto the chair, and then steps up. When his left foot is on the chair he puts his right foot and leg back through the opening in the trousers, into the shoe and walks away.
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02-23-2006, 08:33 PM

Originally posted by BoyAlley

The real "magic" is created by craftsmen and engineers who devise, develop, and create the actually "tricks" that you see on TV and at the large stage shows. Experts and artisans in electrical engineering, cabinet making, lighting design, and so on.

nice answer, thanks bro
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02-23-2006, 08:34 PM

Originally posted by websiex

http://video.google.com/videoplay?do...6&q=card+trick

How is that card trick done?

He palms the cards into his right hand and drops them off the edge of the table.
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02-23-2006, 08:34 PM

tricks are for kids silly faggit ... er.....rabbit

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02-23-2006, 08:36 PM

my sig caught gonoherpasyphilaids and died
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02-23-2006, 08:38 PM

Originally posted by websiex

http://video.google.com/videoplay?do...6&q=card+trick

How is that card trick done?

This is actually my area of expertise, and the type of thing that I would do in close-up shows and in competitions.

The slight of hand move here is known as the "front palm". The front palm involves using the thumb and index finger to curve cards inward toward your palm, holding them there until the "take".

The take occurs rather quickly when the magician is showing you his hand is empty. If you look, there is a VERY brief second when he's about to show you his palm when his hand overlaps the edge of the table, allowing his to drop the cards into a small pouch (known creatively as the "drop bag") that's hanging off of the back of it.

There is also a "back palm" which is a technique that allows the magician to literally clip a card between his fingers from behind so that cards seem to "vanish" into thin air, when in reality they're being held behind his hand by the folds of skin between his fingers.

These techniques are VERY difficult to perform fluently, and are ones that I literally spent a couple of years in my spare time mastering.

I hate it, but I actually forget this performer's name. He's truely a giant in closeup magic. He performed this routine (Which you see here) in a TV special many years back called "The World's Greatest Magicians" that also featured Jeff McBride. Truly the #1 close up card magician that ever existed, who's responsible for developing many new techniques, including those performed by David Copperfield on one of his TV specials (the 4 aces).
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02-23-2006, 08:38 PM

Originally posted by Spunky

How does Copperfield make huge things disappear?

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02-23-2006, 08:39 PM

He palms the cards into his right hand and drops them off the edge of the table.

I was thinking that too since it is the only logical explanation, but that would mean that the guy with the microphone was in on it... I'll just assume he is Tenkai palming them off...
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02-23-2006, 08:41 PM

Originally posted by TexasDreams

I can make my fist disappear using that stuff......
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02-23-2006, 08:43 PM

Originally posted by websiex

I was thinking that too since it is the only logical explanation, but that would mean that the guy with the microphone was in on it... I'll just assume he is Tenkai palming them off...

If you ever see a magician performing a trick in front of spectators and you wonder if one or more of the spectators are in on the trick, they usually are.
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02-23-2006, 08:46 PM

A question for BoyAlley - I have very long, skinny fingers (think of the "facehugger" in Alien). Where can I get a decent thumbtip? The Vernet thumbtip I've got is a bit obvious.
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02-23-2006, 08:48 PM

Originally posted by volante

If you ever see a magician performing a trick in front of spectators and you wonder if one or more of the spectators are in on the trick, they usually are.

I saw David Copperfield perform in Memphis and I had tickets to two shows. In both shows he went out in the audience looking for an assistant and both times he picked the same girl. Although he asks the girl "have we ever met before" and the girl answers "no"....that was a complete lie. If you believe the lies, he's already fooled you

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02-23-2006, 08:51 PM

Originally posted by volante

A question for BoyAlley - I have very long, skinny fingers (think of the "facehugger" in Alien). Where can I get a decent thumbtip? The Vernet thumbtip I've got is a bit obvious.

I'm the same way that you are, long slender fingers, which was a HUGE advantage to me in slight of hand.

You know what I ended up doing? Buying one the CHEAPEST versions that I could find and using a lighter on the end of it to melt the plastic some and stretch and shape the tip. Just don't put the heat source too close to the tip or you'll blacken it. Did the job just fine!

All of the guys thought I spent a fortune on a custom molded prop.
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02-23-2006, 08:53 PM

Good stuff BoyAlley!!!
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02-23-2006, 09:01 PM

Originally posted by Spider Ninja

who was the best magician?

For me it's David Blaine.
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02-23-2006, 09:03 PM

Originally posted by BoyAlley

With a fleshlight.

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02-23-2006, 09:06 PM

any good online sites to learn some basic tricks to impress friends?
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