So I guess when I watch the discovery channels and a lion in Africa is going after a gazelle the filmmaker should shoot the lion ot save the gazelle. But no they just film it and show it to us. They are sick and so are we for watching.
(the tigers eating stuff, not the trained bear crap)
Not much difference between having the humans slaughter the animals first and throw out hunks of raw meat. At least this way they get to fulfill their natural instincts by actually killing their prey instead of being hand-fed.
I dont see any difference between this and what Michael Vick did. It has nothing to do with race. Every country has assholes that treat animals like shit. Some countries even torture humans for fun. So instead of blaming the chinese for everything, look at yourself first.
I dont see any difference between this and what Michael Vick did. It has nothing to do with race. Every country has assholes that treat animals like shit. Some countries even torture humans for fun. So instead of blaming the chinese for everything, look at yourself first.
how is feeding tigers a cow "treating them like shit"?
not the tigers, the cow. Yeah you can say that the cow would have died anyways, but doing it for entertainment value I would say is degrading = treating like shit.
I eat meat, pork, and chicken like anyone else. I dont claim to be a saint. But if two dogs are bred for fighting for entertainment value is cruel, I would argue the same for the cow.
not the tigers, the cow. Yeah you can say that the cow would have died anyways, but doing it for entertainment value I would say is degrading = treating like shit.
I eat meat, pork, and chicken like anyone else. I dont claim to be a saint. But if two dogs are bred for fighting for entertainment value is cruel, I would argue the same for the cow.
yeah, i'm sure a cow is much more content being attacked by tigers, bitten everywhere, having its throat ripped out, bleeding to death and then being eaten in privacy, rather than having it done in front of tourists.
yeah, i'm sure a cow is much more content being attacked by tigers, bitten everywhere, having its throat ripped out, bleeding to death and then being eaten in privacy, rather than having it done in front of tourists.
i can see where that changes everything.
Idiot: if you watch the video, you'll see that tigers don't even eat the cows. They are overfed. They kill the cow and leave it like that.
Idiot: if you watch the video, you'll see that tigers don't even eat the cows. They are overfed. They kill the cow and leave it like that.
"the video" is less than 1 min. i'll rely on your finely tuned, psychic vision to fill in the blanks for the other 1339 minutes of that day.
are you suggesting that tigers got "overfed" (as if that makes any sense) by NOT eating? how do you determine a tiger is "overfed"? if they aren't eathing the cows... then what are they eating that caused them to be "overfed"? cupcakes, ice cream and chocolate milk? they didn't look obese to me... they looked exactly like healthy tigers.
is "overfed" your word? a caretakers? or the reporters? does being "overfed" mean tigers don't get hungry every few hours?
are you a tiger specialist? were these tigers intended to be released back into the wild? is it impairative that they learn to hunt and kill? do you know anything beyond what a 1 minute emotional appeal to crybaby pussies had to tell you?
were you equally disturbed when he described the chicken as "terrified" or the duck was "eaten alive" (as if it matters)
whether or not a crowd is entertained by the feeding fo the tigers, doesn't change the fact that its nothing unnatural for tigers to kill and eat.
since no one can/has proven that they don't eat the cow, then there is nothing to discuss.
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"the video" is less than 1 min. i'll rely on your finely tuned, psychic vision to fill in the blanks for the other 1339 minutes of that day.
are you suggesting that tigers got "overfed" (as if that makes any sense) by NOT eating? how do you determine a tiger is "overfed"? if they aren't eathing the cows... then what are they eating that caused them to be "overfed"? cupcakes, ice cream and chocolate milk? they didn't look obese to me... they looked exactly like healthy tigers.
is "overfed" your word? a caretakers? or the reporters? does being "overfed" mean tigers don't get hungry every few hours?
are you a tiger specialist? were these tigers intended to be released back into the wild? is it impairative that they learn to hunt and kill? do you know anything beyond what a 1 minute emotional appeal to crybaby pussies had to tell you?
were you equally disturbed when he described the chicken as "terrified" or the duck was "eaten alive" (as if it matters)
whether or not a crowd is entertained by the feeding fo the tigers, doesn't change the fact that its nothing unnatural for tigers to kill and eat.
since no one can/has proven that they don't eat the cow, then there is nothing to discuss.
Dear idiot... If you watch the video again, they say the tigers are already overweight... and idiot if you watch the video, you'll also see that they carry the second dead cow by car: uneaten, just killed.
Dear idiot... If you watch the video again, they say the tigers are already overweight... and idiot if you watch the video, you'll also see that they carry the second dead cow by car: uneaten, just killed.
ohh... they said the tigers were overweight. that was my point. "they" didn't say ANYTHING. "a" reporter did.
so.... why is it that these animals in the wild don't kill for fun, or if they aren't hungry, yet in this place where they are captive and have live meat thrown in front of them... they do? i mean, a group of them didn't even begin to hesitate to go after the cow... some didn't care.
are you saying the tigers who didn't care decided not to kill for fun and the ones who attacked the cow weren't hungry and were just killing for fun... meanwhile, no tiger is actually thinking about food?
they carry off the cows... then what? feed them pasta and chardonnay?
ohh... they said the tigers were overweight. that was my point. "they" didn't say ANYTHING. "a" reporter did.
so.... why is it that these animals in the wild don't kill for fun, or if they aren't hungry, yet in this place where they are captive and have live meat thrown in front of them... they do? i mean, a group of them didn't even begin to hesitate to go after the cow... some didn't care.
are you saying the tigers who didn't care decided not to kill for fun and the ones who attacked the cow weren't hungry and were just killing for fun... meanwhile, no tiger is actually thinking about food?
they carry off the cows... then what? feed them pasta and chardonnay?
PS... how many tigers did you interview?
Dear idiot... if you take a few books and read about animal behaviour, it will tell you that in captivity animals do things they don't do when they are free... Just like what the monkey was doing in that video.
One big problem about posting on this forum is that it's full of uneducated people whose intellectual capacity is... well beyond average. So it's sometimes difficult to answer primary school-level claims like yours.
yeah, i'm sure a cow is much more content being attacked by tigers, bitten everywhere, having its throat ripped out, bleeding to death and then being eaten in privacy, rather than having it done in front of tourists.
i can see where that changes everything.
So are u in favor of someone having the right to breed dogs/chickens for fighting?
Peta lovers like you is the reason why animals in the US live better than people!!!
My argument was not really in favor of animal rights. I was just commenting on americans blaming foreign countries for the same things that americans themselves do.
Dear idiot... if you take a few books and read about animal behaviour, it will tell you that in captivity animals do things they don't do when they are free... Just like what the monkey was doing in that video.
One big problem about posting on this forum is that it's full of uneducated people whose intellectual capacity is... well beyond average. So it's sometimes difficult to answer primary school-level claims like yours.
so... now you are presuming to fully understand the motivation of the tigers?
you feel their pain?
really?
didn't i see you on the news a few years back? you were chained to a tree, stopping a logging company from cutting it down because you were the only one that could hear it crying?
my point is that YOU are required to make a LOT of assumptions about the animals, their daily routines, their eating habits, the intent of their handlers and so on and so forth to make your point.
i'm not making any assumption other than one, which seems quite reasonable... that a dumb journalist was trying to dig up a controversial story... and in a land where prisoners are executed for their organs, and people are risking life and limb for .50 a day to make your Nikes... the best he could do was make a video of tigers being fed and was forced to pepper the report with emotionally charged language to appeal to and incite tards like yourself... and because they video just couldn't get any reaction otherwise.
"i'm warning you... if you're squeamish... stop this video now... "
to be honest, i expected live people to be pushed out the way he was setting it up... as it turned out.. it was just a cow being fed to hungry tigers and that made you cry.
don't cry
one day you'll grow up and stop all animals from eating other animals, i'm sure.
maybe they are feeding them to prepare them for being released in the wild? maybe 1000 other explanations exist.
its weird that everyone is so willing to assume everything.
kill a cow = OH MY FUCKING GOD
bomb some people, rape some kids, genocide, AID's in Africa = change the channel
people crack me up.
Again....My argument was not really in favor of animal rights. I was just commenting on americans blaming foreign countries for the same things that americans themselves do.
The cow is what is public, wait until the Inferior Caucasian version comes out and with their growing power it won't take long. Still wanna go the Olympics there next year? They have a new game, Inferior Caucasian chased by tigers.
They arent always feeding them. They are doing it for entertainment purposes.
So in other words as long as the death of the cow that died to make your steak, wasn't also used as entertainment you're cool with a cow dying. If not then WTF are you eating steak for?
Now this argument is the apogee of idiotic reason.
So a person cannot be both pro-human right and pro-animal rights?
"animal rights"
what are "animal rights"?
animals rights is the idea some people have that we should stop treating animals like animals. where do "rights" come from????
ironically, in this case, you also want animals to stop acting like animals. i'm idiotic? really?
animals are not people. animals are food.
unfortuneately, there are many people who seem to care more about animals than people. imagine if you directed this supposed "outrage" and energy towards helping little Tiffany get a liver transplant to save her life? or towards stopping genocide in Darfur or towards actually doing something that makes the world a better place and improves the lives of others?
my point, which seemed to have flown right over your irrational, illogical and misguided head is that PEOPLE and their welfare and wellbeing should come before ANIMALS.
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