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    • Jun 2003
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    Too Much Media Comments on NATS Security Breach

    http://www.xbiz.com/news/88230

    FREEHOLD, NJ ? Too Much Media, creators of the NATS affiliate tracking software, confirmed that the company has been the victim of a security breach through which an unspecified number of NATS clients? data also has been compromised.
    ?We have been made aware that we may have been a victim of a security breach in which access was made to one of our servers,? Too Much Media co-founder John Albright told XBIZ. ?It appears that certain non-unique usernames and passwords we maintained for administrative support of our clients were compromised.?

    Albright said that in light of the breach, ?all passwords have been changed and passwords will be no longer be maintained by TMM.?

    According to Albright, no credit card information was at risk due to the breach, and that ?preliminary indications are that the hacker was after email lists.?

    Asked how long TMM had been aware of the breach, Albright said that there had been a ?lot of misrepresentation [as] to this,? but verified that the company did ?become aware of an issue a few months ago.?

    ?We had determined what we at the time thought to be the extent of it and notified those who were affected,? Albright said. ?Also, as a precaution, we changed all of the admin passwords we maintained regardless of whether we had an indication they had been compromised or not. As soon as we became aware of the issue being more widespread we immediately contacted all of our clients and took the actions mentioned previously.?

    Albright took exception to the notion that the company had not notified its clients in a timely fashion, and defended the company?s actions as being appropriate given the perceived degree of the breach?s severity at the time it was first discovered.

    ?This is something being misrepresented by people,? Albright said. ?We take our security and the security of our clients very seriously. [W]e contacted everyone we thought had been affected when we first knew of the issue and we contacted all clients as soon as we learned the issue was more widespread.?

    Asked what NATS clients should do in the short term to improve security on their end, Albright said TMM is ?recommending all clients utilize the admin IP restriction feature which has been available in NATS for some time.?

    ?Many clients had already taken advantage of this and other security features in NATS and were not affected by this breach,? Albright said, adding that TMM has been in touch with their clients in order to gather information and to advise their clients about what steps to take.

    ?We have asked via statements, emails to clients, and news items posted in the NATS admin news and on our website that people submit a support ticket so we may advise them of the best actions to take,? Albright said. ?We have also taken actions on our end to change all passwords to any installs which may have been compromised and we are no longer maintaining those passwords. We have modified our policy to no longer keep any passwords of any sort. Clients will need to grant us access to their install when any work is to be performed.?

    Albright said that an investigation is now underway to determine ?the exact cause and level of the security breach.?

    ?TMM intends to prosecute to the fullest extent possible anyone responsible for any breach of its servers and programs,? Albright said.

    In a statement issued over the weekend, Albright said that his company?s handling of the situation had not been ideal and apologized for not taking more extensive action sooner, but attributed its limited actions to the fact that TMM was not aware of the full scope of the problem.

    ?If we had known that the issue was more widespread we would have without question contacted everyone,? Albright said in the statement. ?We did not believe at the time it was a widespread issue. Again, this was a mistake on our part and I apologize to everyone for it. I was not trying to put blame on our clients for this and I'm sorry if I was taken that way. I was simply trying to point out the various possibilities as to what may have been going on while we were investigating it. This is not our [clients?] fault in any way.?
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  • AlienQ - BANNED FOR LIFE
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    • Mar 2003
    • 30307

    #2
    Marry Xmas!

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    • notoldschool
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      #3
      Ho Ho Ho. Merry Xmas.
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      • madfuck
        Registered User
        • Oct 2004
        • 2032

        #4
        merry xmas!!!

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        • DVTimes
          xxx
          • Jun 2003
          • 31650

          #5
          yes

          merry xmass
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          • DVTimes
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            • Jun 2003
            • 31650

            #6
            my xmass thread

            http://www.gfy.com/showthread.php?t=794655
            XXX

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            • kovacs
              So Fucking Banned
              • Nov 2007
              • 248

              #7
              so what does this mean? i have to change all my nats passwords and check all my details at all the nats programs i use?

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              • minusonebit
                So Fucking Banned
                • Feb 2006
                • 7391

                #8
                Aww, what a shame they didn't use the press release I sent them. Mine wasn't full of so much posturing and trying to prop up the name of John's two-bit, good for nothing, ain't worth a shit company.

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                • tical
                  Confirmed User
                  • Feb 2002
                  • 6504

                  #9
                  i'm willing to bet this 'breach' went on for a LOT longer

                  after nats was installed for amateurwealth.com (LONG ago) before we even went live i was getting spammed to my test transaction email addresses (catchall emails that were never used before)

                  i doubt we were hacked, we hadn't even announced anything at that point

                  wouldn't be suprised if it was the same issue
                  112.020.756

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                  • Iron Fist
                    Too lazy to set a custom title
                    • Dec 2006
                    • 23400

                    #10
                    I feel bad for John... guy is having probably the worst Christmas of his whole life... I know he fucked up, but man, this could not of happened at a worse time.
                    i like waffles

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                    • ninavain
                      So Fucking Banned
                      • Jan 2004
                      • 6268

                      #11
                      merry christmas

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                      • DVTimes
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                        • Jun 2003
                        • 31650

                        #12
                        merry xmas!!!
                        XXX

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                        • minusonebit
                          So Fucking Banned
                          • Feb 2006
                          • 7391

                          #13
                          Originally posted by sharphead
                          I feel bad for John... guy is having probably the worst Christmas of his whole life... I know he fucked up, but man, this could not of happened at a worse time.
                          He made his bed, set it on fire, now its time for him to lay in it.

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                          • amateurcanada
                            Confirmed User
                            • Jul 2001
                            • 3766

                            #14
                            Still a fine piece of software.

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                            • SmokeyTheBear
                              ►SouthOfHeaven
                              • Jun 2004
                              • 28609

                              #15
                              Originally posted by tical
                              i'm willing to bet this 'breach' went on for a LOT longer

                              after nats was installed for amateurwealth.com (LONG ago) before we even went live i was getting spammed to my test transaction email addresses (catchall emails that were never used before)

                              i doubt we were hacked, we hadn't even announced anything at that point

                              wouldn't be suprised if it was the same issue
                              me neither , many many webmasters have brought it up over the last 2 years about nats , but it was always the same story . " must be you not us"
                              hatisblack at yahoo.com

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                              • kovacs
                                So Fucking Banned
                                • Nov 2007
                                • 248

                                #16
                                it's a real pity that this industry is run by thieves and frauds

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                                • DigitalPimp
                                  Confirmed User
                                  • Jun 2003
                                  • 512

                                  #17
                                  Originally posted by kovacs
                                  so what does this mean? i have to change all my nats passwords and check all my details at all the nats programs i use?
                                  Been wondering the same thing. Anyone know if the part of NATS that got hacked was affiliate data or member data or both or all or what?

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                                  • Odin
                                    Confirmed User
                                    • Jan 2004
                                    • 2545

                                    #18
                                    Originally posted by SmokeyTheBear
                                    me neither , many many webmasters have brought it up over the last 2 years about nats , but it was always the same story . " must be you not us"
                                    Whoever it was made a fortune on it. Big big business in having that kind of access to that many member databases.
                                    ICQ: 637//961--015

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                                    • DVTimes
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                                      • Jun 2003
                                      • 31650

                                      #19
                                      merry xmass
                                      XXX

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                                      • RAM
                                        They're all hookers, but mom!
                                        • Jan 2001
                                        • 7047

                                        #20
                                        Happy Christmass and Merry New Years !!!
                                        Many Cumshots...is all we can hope for
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                                        • Paul Markham
                                          Too old to care
                                          • Jun 2001
                                          • 52942

                                          #21
                                          Asked how long TMM had been aware of the breach, Albright said that there had been a ?lot of misrepresentation [as] to this,? but verified that the company did ?become aware of an issue a few months ago.?

                                          ?We had determined what we at the time thought to be the extent of it and notified those who were affected,? Albright said. ?Also, as a precaution, we changed all of the admin passwords we maintained regardless of whether we had an indication they had been compromised or not. As soon as we became aware of the issue being more widespread we immediately contacted all of our clients and took the actions mentioned previously.?

                                          Albright took exception to the notion that the company had not notified its clients in a timely fashion, and defended the company?s actions as being appropriate given the perceived degree of the breach?s severity at the time it was first discovered.

                                          ?This is something being misrepresented by people,? Albright said. ?We take our security and the security of our clients very seriously. [W]e contacted everyone we thought had been affected when we first knew of the issue and we contacted all clients as soon as we learned the issue was more widespread.?
                                          Did they notify clients they thought were at risk when they first found out about this and if so who are they? These clients could save John from a lot of grief and I'm sure some will step up to the plate for him and tell us they were notified three months ago.

                                          Or did they just fix it for the ones who notified them of the compromise and tell them how to fix it?

                                          As for being a shit Xmas for him, not as shit as it is for some of his clients.



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                                          • tical
                                            Confirmed User
                                            • Feb 2002
                                            • 6504

                                            #22
                                            Originally posted by SmokeyTheBear
                                            me neither , many many webmasters have brought it up over the last 2 years about nats , but it was always the same story . " must be you not us"
                                            that is the same thing they said to us, heh
                                            112.020.756

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                                            • Paul Markham
                                              Too old to care
                                              • Jun 2001
                                              • 52942

                                              #23
                                              Double post/.
                                              Last edited by Paul Markham; 12-25-2007, 09:09 AM.



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                                              • notoldschool
                                                Confirmed User
                                                • Aug 2007
                                                • 5687

                                                #24
                                                Originally posted by Paul Markham
                                                Double post/.
                                                havent you figured out in the past years that NOONE cares what you think?
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                                                • Azoy?
                                                  Confirmed User
                                                  • Aug 2005
                                                  • 2178

                                                  #25
                                                  Originally posted by allanuk
                                                  http://www.xbiz.com/news/88230

                                                  FREEHOLD, NJ ? Too Much Media, creators of the NATS affiliate tracking software, confirmed that the company has been the victim of a security breach through which an unspecified number of NATS clients? data also has been compromised.
                                                  ?We have been made aware that we may have been a victim of a security breach in which access was made to one of our servers,? Too Much Media co-founder John Albright told XBIZ. ?It appears that certain non-unique usernames and passwords we maintained for administrative support of our clients were compromised.?

                                                  Albright said that in light of the breach, ?all passwords have been changed and passwords will be no longer be maintained by TMM.?

                                                  According to Albright, no credit card information was at risk due to the breach, and that ?preliminary indications are that the hacker was after email lists.?

                                                  Asked how long TMM had been aware of the breach, Albright said that there had been a ?lot of misrepresentation [as] to this,? but verified that the company did ?become aware of an issue a few months ago.?

                                                  ?We had determined what we at the time thought to be the extent of it and notified those who were affected,? Albright said. ?Also, as a precaution, we changed all of the admin passwords we maintained regardless of whether we had an indication they had been compromised or not. As soon as we became aware of the issue being more widespread we immediately contacted all of our clients and took the actions mentioned previously.?

                                                  Albright took exception to the notion that the company had not notified its clients in a timely fashion, and defended the company?s actions as being appropriate given the perceived degree of the breach?s severity at the time it was first discovered.

                                                  ?This is something being misrepresented by people,? Albright said. ?We take our security and the security of our clients very seriously. [W]e contacted everyone we thought had been affected when we first knew of the issue and we contacted all clients as soon as we learned the issue was more widespread.?

                                                  Asked what NATS clients should do in the short term to improve security on their end, Albright said TMM is ?recommending all clients utilize the admin IP restriction feature which has been available in NATS for some time.?

                                                  ?Many clients had already taken advantage of this and other security features in NATS and were not affected by this breach,? Albright said, adding that TMM has been in touch with their clients in order to gather information and to advise their clients about what steps to take.

                                                  ?We have asked via statements, emails to clients, and news items posted in the NATS admin news and on our website that people submit a support ticket so we may advise them of the best actions to take,? Albright said. ?We have also taken actions on our end to change all passwords to any installs which may have been compromised and we are no longer maintaining those passwords. We have modified our policy to no longer keep any passwords of any sort. Clients will need to grant us access to their install when any work is to be performed.?

                                                  Albright said that an investigation is now underway to determine ?the exact cause and level of the security breach.?

                                                  ?TMM intends to prosecute to the fullest extent possible anyone responsible for any breach of its servers and programs,? Albright said.

                                                  In a statement issued over the weekend, Albright said that his company?s handling of the situation had not been ideal and apologized for not taking more extensive action sooner, but attributed its limited actions to the fact that TMM was not aware of the full scope of the problem.

                                                  ?If we had known that the issue was more widespread we would have without question contacted everyone,? Albright said in the statement. ?We did not believe at the time it was a widespread issue. Again, this was a mistake on our part and I apologize to everyone for it. I was not trying to put blame on our clients for this and I'm sorry if I was taken that way. I was simply trying to point out the various possibilities as to what may have been going on while we were investigating it. This is not our [clients?] fault in any way.?
                                                  And now, the end is near,
                                                  And so I face the final curtain...........................

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                                                  • Paul Markham
                                                    Too old to care
                                                    • Jun 2001
                                                    • 52942

                                                    #26
                                                    Originally posted by notoldschool
                                                    havent you figured out in the past years that NOONE cares what you think?
                                                    Noone or no one?

                                                    You seem to care enough to post.



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                                                    • borked
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                                                      • Feb 2005
                                                      • 6284

                                                      #27
                                                      sod it - 8chars
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                                                      • DVTimes
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                                                        • Jun 2003
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                                                        #28
                                                        Bump......................
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