SATA drives...worth it?

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  • jollyperv
    Confirmed User
    • Nov 2001
    • 3927

    #1

    SATA drives...worth it?

    Need a new drive pretty soon, is there a noticeable difference between a 7200 rpm drive?
  • sfera
    Confirmed User
    • Aug 2005
    • 8597

    #2
    if you are doing gaming owuld go with 10k rpm if not go wthe the 72

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    • teksonline
      So Fucking Banned
      • Jan 2005
      • 2904

      #3
      for gaming yes, for super high reliability no

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      • Jace
        FBOP Class Of 2013
        • Jan 2004
        • 35562

        #4
        http://www.techbuilder.org/recipes/s...leArticle=true

        At the beginning of this recipe, I said I've uncovered significant under-performance in IDE technology, given the prices that retail stores charge for new PCs. In this section, I'll prove it. First, I will describe a "head to head" performance comparison between three systems, one older PC newly configured with a SATA drive, and two new PCs, both with new IDE drives.

        The Old PC is my trusty, four-year-old Compaq Presario 5WV254. This system contains an AMD Duron 700 MHz CPU and 512 MB of RAM, and the OS is Windows XP Professional. For this recipe, I upgraded the system with a Maxtor 6Y120 SATA hard drive.

        New PC #1 is a Compaq Presario Pentium 4 system. It boasts a 3.0 GHZ Pentium 4 CPU, 512 MB of RAM, and Windows XP Professional. Storage is provided by a 7200-RPM IDE hard drive.

        New PC #2 is Compaq Presario SR1100NX. It boasts a 2.53 GHz Intel Celeron CPU, 256 MB of RAM, and Windows XP Professional. The hard drive is a 5400-RPM Seagate Barracuda ST340015A.

        You might be forgiven if you expected the new PC to run much faster than my old one. After all, it has a much faster CPU, right? Well, let's take a look.

        Test 1

        The first test I ran was a generic file transfer. To keep everything "apples to apples," I took the system folder of Windows XP called c: > windows > system32. On any given system running Windows XP, this folder will contain about 330 MB contained in approximately 2,000 files. I created a new folder on the c: drive, then opened a DOS window to issue the manual command copy > c: > windows system32 > *.* which any old-timer knows will copy all the files from the windows > system32 folder to the new folder. Here are the surprising -- and astounding -- results.

        PC
        Disk type
        Time to Transfer


        New system #1
        IDE
        127 seconds



        New system #2
        IDE
        151 seconds



        Old system
        SATA
        44 seconds (!)







        Test 2

        Next, I performed what I refer to as my "time to boot" test. This test measures the time it takes to boot Windows XP from the opening banner to the initial display of the desktop.

        PC
        Disk type
        Time to XP Boot


        New system #1
        IDE
        28 seconds



        New system #2
        IDE
        28 seconds



        Old system
        SATA
        17 seconds (!)







        Note: Due to the "bold assertions" of this recipe (test 2 in particular), it is incumbent upon me to make the following disclaimer: Given that there are different hard-drive manufacturers offering different performance levels, the performance differential I uncovered may be different from the differential given two other hard drives or two other PCs. Furthermore, there are new hard-drive controllers (for example, the Intel 925) that may shrink the performance differential between PCs with IDE and SATA hard drives.

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        • crockett
          in a van by the river
          • May 2003
          • 76818

          #5
          I love my 10k rpm drive..
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          • Jace
            FBOP Class Of 2013
            • Jan 2004
            • 35562

            #6
            jeez, is this a gaming forum now?

            all the nerds came out all of the sudden

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            • jollyperv
              Confirmed User
              • Nov 2001
              • 3927

              #7
              Not doing much gaming anymore, but I do pretty heavy video editing, if I could get even just a 5% speed boost in that realm I think it would be worth it.

              Also just got a brand spanking new asus motherboard, p5p800 se, after going through 2 in a fucking year due to faulty wiring in my house (plugs not grounded) so the sata controllers should be at least satisfactory.

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              • Jace
                FBOP Class Of 2013
                • Jan 2004
                • 35562

                #8
                Originally posted by jollyperv
                Not doing much gaming anymore, but I do pretty heavy video editing, if I could get even just a 5% speed boost in that realm I think it would be worth it.

                Also just got a brand spanking new asus motherboard, p5p800 se, after going through 2 in a fucking year due to faulty wiring in my house (plugs not grounded) so the sata controllers should be at least satisfactory.
                dude, sounds like you need one of those huge backup power things....one of the monster $300-400 ones

                they are SOOOOO worth it

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                • 4Pics
                  Confirmed User
                  • Dec 2001
                  • 7952

                  #9
                  they aren't any better, as the hd in most cases is not the problem with your pc being slow.

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                  • infecto
                    Confirmed User
                    • May 2003
                    • 1697

                    #10
                    Originally posted by Jace
                    jeez, is this a gaming forum now?

                    all the nerds came out all of the sudden

                    We are sorry you don't understand some of the simplest concepts.

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                    • Jace
                      FBOP Class Of 2013
                      • Jan 2004
                      • 35562

                      #11
                      Originally posted by infecto
                      We are sorry you don't understand some of the simplest concepts.
                      sorry my brain thinks at a higher level than games

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                      • minusonebit
                        So Fucking Banned
                        • Feb 2006
                        • 7391

                        #12
                        Originally posted by jollyperv
                        Also just got a brand spanking new asus motherboard, p5p800 se, after going through 2 in a fucking year due to faulty wiring in my house (plugs not grounded) so the sata controllers should be at least satisfactory.
                        Damn, you need a UPS. Well worth the extra investment, saves alot of hassle when the lights go out too, you dont lose everything you're working on. Always a plus.

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                        • infecto
                          Confirmed User
                          • May 2003
                          • 1697

                          #13
                          Originally posted by Jace
                          sorry my brain thinks at a higher level than games
                          I am sorry you somehow saw the word games in this thread and came to the conclusion its a gaming thread. Like I said you don't know jack shit Mr. Troll.

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                          • infecto
                            Confirmed User
                            • May 2003
                            • 1697

                            #14
                            BTW a UPS will not really help that much if you have improper grounding or no grounding at all. In fact the more expensive models will not even be usable.

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                            • BusterBunny
                              perverted justice decoy
                              • Aug 2005
                              • 19291

                              #15
                              sata=great for guba loads....please shoot me they have infected my brain
                              my sig caught gonoherpasyphilaids and died

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                              • jollyperv
                                Confirmed User
                                • Nov 2001
                                • 3927

                                #16
                                Originally posted by infecto
                                BTW a UPS will not really help that much if you have improper grounding or no grounding at all. In fact the more expensive models will not even be usable.
                                This is actually exactly what happened...I have a nice APC UPS, and when me and the GF moved into this place (apartment), I plugged everything in and the UPS (it's hers) wouldn't stop buzzing, and the faulty wiring light was on. I just figured that maybe it got dropped or just crapped out. Now, years later I know why it was buzzing.

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                                • woj
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                                  • Jul 2002
                                  • 47880

                                  #17
                                  That sounds like a bullshit test, it doesn't really compare SATA vs IDE interfaces, but just compares old hard drives vs new hard drives. I'm sure if he installed a new IDE drive into those new computers the results would show that performance would be very similar.
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                                  • Scootermuze
                                    Confirmed User
                                    • Dec 2001
                                    • 4513

                                    #18
                                    Originally posted by jollyperv
                                    ........................
                                    Also just got a brand spanking new asus motherboard, p5p800 se, after going through 2 in a fucking year due to faulty wiring in my house (plugs not grounded) so the sata controllers should be at least satisfactory.
                                    Get some new receptacles and run your neutral wire to the neutral terminal, then to the ground screw...
                                    Last edited by Scootermuze; 02-22-2006, 04:53 PM.

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                                    • jigg
                                      Confirmed User
                                      • Feb 2002
                                      • 2527

                                      #19
                                      I have to say I'm pleased with my SATA drive. It is definitly, for me at least, feeling much faster than the IDE I had before
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                                      • minusonebit
                                        So Fucking Banned
                                        • Feb 2006
                                        • 7391

                                        #20
                                        Originally posted by jollyperv
                                        This is actually exactly what happened...I have a nice APC UPS, and when me and the GF moved into this place (apartment), I plugged everything in and the UPS (it's hers) wouldn't stop buzzing, and the faulty wiring light was on. I just figured that maybe it got dropped or just crapped out. Now, years later I know why it was buzzing.
                                        heh, I think I would have tried to hold the apartment complex responsible. That place should have been wired by a professional, someone didnt know what they were doing. Man, that sucks.

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                                        • chaze
                                          Confirmed User
                                          • Aug 2002
                                          • 9774

                                          #21
                                          Get this:

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                                          or this:

                                          http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16822144185

                                          Thank me later
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