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  • Juicy D. Links
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    Bush Would Veto Any Bill Halting Dubai Port Deal <-----

    http://www.nytimes.com/2006/02/22/politics/22port.html


    President Bush, trying to put down a rapidly escalating rebellion among leaders of his own party, said Tuesday that he would veto any legislation blocking a deal for a state-owned company in Dubai to take over the management of port terminals in New York, Miami, Baltimore and other major American cities.


    Amazing..............
  • who
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    #2
    Holy fuck... when idiots get power there's nothing else to do but RUN.

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    • aico
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      #3
      "Bush on Tuesday brushed aside objections by leaders in the Senate and House that the $6.8 billion sale could raise risks of terrorism at American ports. In a forceful defense of his administration's earlier approval of the deal, he pledged to veto any bill Congress might approve to block the agreement."

      Can you fucking believe this shit??? What the fuck country do I live in? Is he just trying to get assasinated (ya I probably spelled that wrong)...

      I can't even fathom how the fuck this is happening... seriously in awe here.

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      • Juicy D. Links
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        #4
        Originally posted by aico
        "Bush on Tuesday brushed aside objections by leaders in the Senate and House that the $6.8 billion sale could raise risks of terrorism at American ports. In a forceful defense of his administration's earlier approval of the deal, he pledged to veto any bill Congress might approve to block the agreement."

        Can you fucking believe this shit??? What the fuck country do I live in? Is he just trying to get assasinated (ya I probably spelled that wrong)...

        I can't even fathom how the fuck this is happening... seriously in awe here.
        I cant believe it either . He is giving control of the ports over...jeezzzzzzzzz

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        • Kimo
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          #5
          Yeah well what did you expect. Hes not worried about geting elected again. He shouldnt have been reelected in 04
          ...

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          • faxxaff
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            #6
            Look at Dubai port. The Arabs have prooven that they know this biz well, so why not going thru with a deal that has the best people for this job? These guzs are no terrorist, but serious biz people. BTW they are not outsourcing customs to them .... so I do not understand the hype at all.
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            • Manowar
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              #7
              damn thats so fucked

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              • Juicy D. Links
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                #8
                Originally posted by faxxaff
                Look at Dubai port. The Arabs have prooven that they know this biz well, so why not going thru with a deal that has the best people for this job? These guzs are no terrorist, but serious biz people. BTW they are not outsourcing customs to them .... so I do not understand the hype at all.
                they harbored the terrorists and have ties with em.

                Its like letting a known sex offender babysit your children

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                • aico
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                  #9
                  faxxaff said, and I quote "Look at Dubai port. The Arabs have prooven that they know this biz well, so why not going thru with a deal that has the best people for this job? These guzs are no terrorist, but serious biz people. BTW they are not outsourcing customs to them .... so I do not understand the hype at all."

                  Are you serious? Terrorist don't tend to attack the countries that fund them...

                  They are one of the major funders of Al Queda (probably spelled that wrong too).

                  The hype is that why would this even be a consideration, there are plenty of other people who can do this, in my opinion, and probably the opinions of many others, this choice would be like a sick joke.

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                  • who
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                    #10
                    United States of Arabia.

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                    • faxxaff
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                      #11
                      Look at the Map to see where Dubai is. It is not known for harbouring terrorists (even Michael Jackson wants to move there) but it is the most modern and western oriented place in the Arab world. It would be good for the US to have them remain friends.
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                      • who
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                        #12
                        Originally posted by faxxaff
                        It would be good for the US to have them remain friends.
                        Meaning if this deal fails, that they would no longer be our friends? What are you talking about?

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                        • faxxaff
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                          #13
                          If you sign a contract and then say 'no, I have made up mz mind', I am pretty sure you will demage the trust that people have in you ...
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                          • Juicy D. Links
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                            #14
                            Originally posted by faxxaff
                            Look at the Map to see where Dubai is. It is not known for harbouring terrorists (even Michael Jackson wants to move there) but it is the most modern and western oriented place in the Arab world. It would be good for the US to have them remain friends.

                            Dubai is a nice place i dont disagree on that.....

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                            • Stamen
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                              #15
                              The problem is that Congress has lost it's balls, if there truly is an insurrection in the Republican party over this issue, then Bush's veto wouldn't mean shit since Congress could just override it with a 2/3 vote
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                              • aico
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                                • Mar 2004
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                                #16
                                Here's the thing Faxxaff, we don't want it. Congress doesn't want it, House of Reps doesn't want it... who the fuck does this Bush fucker think he is. Last time I checked this was our country, and some fuckign texan idiot isn't going to jeapordize our safety because he wants to remain friends with his rich buddies.

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                                • ServerGenius
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                                  #17
                                  Dubai their money already makes up a nice chunk of the US economy.
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                                  • KRL
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                                    #18
                                    Congress is planning to override his veto. I'm sure there is a deal somewhere in the background why the Bush admin is so into this port deal going to DPI.

                                    On another point Americans are pretty unaware of how dependent we are to foreigners.

                                    Foreigners own over $11 Trillion of US based assets.

                                    Foreigners own $2 Trillion of US Treasury notes which is about 40% of our government IOU's.

                                    They own 25% of the Fortune 500 Corporate Bonds.

                                    They own 14 Million acres of prime US Farm land.

                                    The largest shareholder of one of the biggest banks in the US, CitiGroup is from Saudi Arabia.

                                    CompUSA, one of the biggest computer retailers in the US, is owned by a Mexican billionaire.

                                    You could go on and on.

                                    If you're worried about the ports, you should be hysterical by the fact that if foreigners stopped buying US Treasury notes, which is what allows the US to spend more money than it takes in each year, (our $400 Billion of technically NSF checks LOL), the US would go belly up overnight.
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                                    • minusonebit
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                                      #19
                                      Bush isn?t going to get away with this. Even if he vetoes, I think there is enough opposition to override his veto. Bush, once an unstoppable president who was free to ravage the people and tax them to death, has lost alot of his power as most people now know that Bush has only his wallet and the wallets of his buddies in mind when he makes decisions.

                                      People aren?t going to stand for such a blatant abuse of power. The son of a bitch is selling out our sovereignty for Christ?s sake. Thankfully, enough people are angry about this that anyone who votes in favor will be committing political suicide and they know it. Elections aren?t far off, not far enough away to be pulling something like this.

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                                      • jimthefiend
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                                        #20
                                        You guys are clueless, no offense.
                                        By federal law, the COAST GUARD runs security for our ports. That won't change.

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                                        • aico
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                                          #21
                                          ^^^
                                          god I hope that was meant to be funny

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                                          • Gunni
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                                            #22
                                            Originally posted by faxxaff
                                            Look at the Map to see where Dubai is. It is not known for harbouring terrorists (even Michael Jackson wants to move there) but it is the most modern and western oriented place in the Arab world. It would be good for the US to have them remain friends.
                                            They're a part of the United Arab Emirates, although not fully intergrated.

                                            They're to the east of Saudi Arabia, they're justice system is based in Islamic laws. It is well kown that a lot of their super rich elite has given tons of money to organizations linked to terrorism. Giving them the controls of US ports is a risky act indeed

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                                            • Donnie Gangsta
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                                              #23
                                              Dubai is a great place to visit

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                                              • jimthefiend
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                                                #24
                                                Originally posted by aico
                                                ^^^
                                                god I hope that was meant to be funny


                                                You're an idiot.

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                                                • extreme
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                                                  #25
                                                  Originally posted by Donnie Gangsta
                                                  Dubai is a great place to visit
                                                  It's a great place to just fly over.

                                                  Impressive what a huge pile of money hidden in the ground and a city architecht with unlimited funds can do.
                                                  The entire UAE is insane.

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                                                  • SinisterStudios
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                                                    #26
                                                    Bush has lost his mind, this man and his entire group of lackies needed to be taken out of government. Turning out ports over to a Arab owned business is crazy, whats next Iraqi control of our nuclear arsenal
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                                                    • aico
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                                                      #27
                                                      jimthefiend said, and I quote, "You're an idiot."

                                                      You're an alcoholic...

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                                                      • jimthefiend
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                                                        #28
                                                        Maybe so, but I can quit drinking. You can't grow brain cells.


                                                        Idiot.

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                                                        • aico
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                                                          • Mar 2004
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                                                          #29
                                                          jimthefiend said, and I quote "Maybe so, but I can quit drinking. You can't grow brain cells.


                                                          Idiot."


                                                          Once and alcoholic always an alcoholic... even an idiot like me knows that.

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                                                          • aico
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                                                            #30
                                                            And actually, you do grow new brain cells, but how would an idiot like me know something about that...

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                                                            • TheMaster
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                                                              #31
                                                              it's like the Americans are finally opening their eyes

                                                              he's been outsourcing or selling US assets since 2000, btw he doesn't really care whether they are foreign or American friends he's making richer, he's a totally equal opportunist in that way

                                                              I mean, jeezes, I think this is the first time in history (Iraq) that an army has outsourced army catering, how much more tax payer's dollars are going into each meal catered in Iraq than normal?

                                                              Bush is a patriot, when it comes to catering to that 1% if the American people, for the other 99% he's just a traitor.

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                                                              • TheMaster
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                                                                #32
                                                                Originally posted by SinisterStudios
                                                                Bush has lost his mind, this man and his entire group of lackies needed to be taken out of government. Turning out ports over to a Arab owned business is crazy, whats next Iraqi control of our nuclear arsenal
                                                                ssssssssssshhhhhhhhhhhh.... that's not supposed to come out yet, because the Chinese are also still in the running for that contract

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                                                                • Juicy D. Links
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                                                                  #33
                                                                  Originally posted by jimthefiend
                                                                  You guys are clueless, no offense.
                                                                  By federal law, the COAST GUARD runs security for our ports. That won't change.
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                                                                  • Juicy D. Links
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                                                                    #34
                                                                    they should be me in charge of the ports. Id bring in all the hookers and pot

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                                                                    • SirMoby
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                                                                      #35
                                                                      My concern isn't that it's being sold to an Arab company at least not one from Dubai but this is a state run company. Basically it's being sold to another government. I don't care if the government is Arab or Christian. giving control to another government is wrong.

                                                                      Of course Dubai Ports will soon give a huge contract to Haliburton or one of the other Cheney controlled companies in return which will either hire Dubya and his dad in 2009.

                                                                      I know the coast guard will still be in charge of security but there's plenty that the a port owner can do even with the tightest controls in place.

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                                                                      • broke
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                                                                        #36
                                                                        Originally posted by aico
                                                                        Here's the thing Faxxaff, we don't want it. Congress doesn't want it, House of Reps doesn't want it... who the fuck does this Bush fucker think he is. Last time I checked this was our country, and some fuckign texan idiot isn't going to jeapordize our safety because he wants to remain friends with his rich buddies.
                                                                        Define "we".
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                                                                        • broke
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                                                                          #37
                                                                          Originally posted by TheMaster
                                                                          he's been outsourcing or selling US assets since 2000, btw he doesn't really care whether they are foreign or American friends he's making richer, he's a totally equal opportunist in that way
                                                                          That's a good trick since he didn't take office until 2001.

                                                                          Odd that you'd blame outsourcing of port management on Bush when our ports have been managed outside the US for 6 years now in a deal Clinton approved.
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                                                                          • aico
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                                                                            #38
                                                                            broke said, and I quote, "Define "we"."

                                                                            My girlfriend and I... sucka... I know what you meant.... ya ya ya..

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                                                                            • KRL
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                                                                              #39
                                                                              Originally posted by jimthefiend
                                                                              You guys are clueless, no offense.
                                                                              By federal law, the COAST GUARD runs security for our ports. That won't change.
                                                                              The Coast Guard interfaces with the company running the ports on all security operations related to the ports.

                                                                              We know the port company doesn't provide the security, but if they are privy to all the details, that's a lot of juicy info that people in the company have access to. That's what people are worried about.
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                                                                              • KRL
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                                                                                #40
                                                                                Originally posted by TheMaster

                                                                                I mean, jeezes, I think this is the first time in history (Iraq) that an army has outsourced army catering, how much more tax payer's dollars are going into each meal catered in Iraq than normal?
                                                                                LOL there was a CBS 60 Minutes investigation into that huge catering deal that went to KBR / Halliburton. I can't recall the exact numbers but the conclusion was the government was paying about double to triple the normal food prices.
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                                                                                • jimthefiend
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                                                                                  #41
                                                                                  Originally posted by Juicy D. Links
                                                                                  they should be me in charge of the ports. Id bring in all the hookers and pot


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                                                                                  • broke
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                                                                                    #42
                                                                                    Originally posted by aico
                                                                                    broke said, and I quote, "Define "we"."

                                                                                    My girlfriend and I... sucka... I know what you meant.... ya ya ya..
                                                                                    Just seems odd to me that people that can't shut up about "private ownership" and "free trade" are jumping up and down screaming and threatening to make a private sale between a UK company and a UAE company illegal.

                                                                                    Seems to me one is about "private ownership" and "free trade" or they are NOT.

                                                                                    Of course, I didn't take into account that an election year is ramping up and our elected officials are more interested in dancing for sound bites and votes than actually governing.
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                                                                                    • JFK
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                                                                                      #43
                                                                                      I guess its a payoff to all his buddies
                                                                                      and btw the way I read it, the ports are run by a Dutch company now, which is being sold to the Arab concerns and they want the contract to go along with it.

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                                                                                      • crockett
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                                                                                        #44
                                                                                        Originally posted by faxxaff
                                                                                        Look at Dubai port. The Arabs have prooven that they know this biz well, so why not going thru with a deal that has the best people for this job? These guzs are no terrorist, but serious biz people. BTW they are not outsourcing customs to them .... so I do not understand the hype at all.

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                                                                                        "After the Sept. 11 terrorist attacks on the U.S., the UAE was identified as a major financial center used by al-Qaeda in transferring money to the hijackers. The nation immediately cooperated with the U.S., freezing accounts tied to suspected terrorists and strongly clamping down on money laundering. The U.S. stationed troops in the UAE during the 2003 Iraq war. "

                                                                                        They clamped down the the bank accounts after 9/11 because we pressured them. The financing of 9/11 happen under their nose of the UAE.. You going to tell me they don't have any ties to terrorists?

                                                                                        Dubai might be one of the more Western friendly countries in the middle east, however they are still not to be trusted with this country's security. The leaders of that country might be US friendly, but doesn't mean the people are.
                                                                                        In November, you can vote for America's next president or its first dictator.

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                                                                                        • broke
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                                                                                          #45
                                                                                          Originally posted by crockett
                                                                                          Dubai might be one of the more Western friendly countries in the middle east, however they are still not to be trusted with this country's security. The leaders of that country might be US friendly, but doesn't mean the people are.

                                                                                          For fucks sake... no one is trusting them with the nation's security.

                                                                                          It is truely amazing that campaign sound bites can so deepen someone's resolve about something they so clearly know NOTHING about.
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                                                                                          • pussyluver
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                                                                                            #46
                                                                                            Note to Jimthefriend: Time to switch thumbs.


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                                                                                            • crockett
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                                                                                              #47
                                                                                              Originally posted by broke
                                                                                              For fucks sake... no one is trusting them with the nation's security.

                                                                                              It is truely amazing that campaign sound bites can so deepen someone's resolve about something they so clearly know NOTHING about.
                                                                                              It's not the security.. meaning guys with AK's guarding the ports. When you manage a port you are also partly in charge of the security of it, as you are in charge of what comes and goes and the daily operations of the port.

                                                                                              Security is a much bigger thing than whom walks the guard dogs.
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                                                                                              • broke
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                                                                                                #48
                                                                                                Originally posted by crockett
                                                                                                It's not the security.. meaning guys with AK's guarding the ports. When you manage a port you are also partly in charge of the security of it, as you are in charge of what comes and goes and the daily operations of the port.

                                                                                                Security is a much bigger thing than whom walks the guard dogs.

                                                                                                Christ, they already own the container division of CSX and are resonspible (according to some) for the saftey of rail and truck containers in this country.

                                                                                                Guess we should only worry about ports and not rail lines or highways, right?
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                                                                                                • KRL
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                                                                                                  #49
                                                                                                  Originally posted by broke
                                                                                                  Just seems odd to me that people that can't shut up about "private ownership" and "free trade" are jumping up and down screaming and threatening to make a private sale between a UK company and a UAE company illegal.

                                                                                                  Seems to me one is about "private ownership" and "free trade" or they are NOT.

                                                                                                  Of course, I didn't take into account that an election year is ramping up and our elected officials are more interested in dancing for sound bites and votes than actually governing.
                                                                                                  The UK company was just that, the UAE company isn't a regular corp, its owned by the Government of UAE which is the al Nahyan klan headed by HH Sheikh Khalifa bin Zayed Al Nahyan.
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                                                                                                  • broke
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                                                                                                    #50
                                                                                                    Originally posted by KRL
                                                                                                    The UK company was just that, the UAE company isn't a regular corp, its owned by the Government of UAE which is the al Nahyan klan headed by HH Sheikh Khalifa bin Zayed Al Nahyan.
                                                                                                    Odd that I didn't see you screaming about the involved business interests in 2004 when Dubai Ports World bought the container division of CSX. Are you honestly telling me that DPW can be responsible for railway and truck containers, but not ship containers?
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