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  • imaginax
    Confirmed User
    • Jun 2002
    • 463
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    Paysite making $11,000 per month in PROFIT. How much i it worth?

    An online acquintaince of mine who does not post on any of the boards wanted me to make this post for him.

    He owns a paysite that makes $11,000 per month in PROFIT (after all hosting, content, etc. is paid for).

    He is contemplating selling it and wants to know what the educated amongst us think he can get for it if he sells it now.

    What do you all think?
    imaginax - Design is Art
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    • Manowar
      jellyfish  
      • Dec 2003
      • 71528
      #2
      if he gets answers and does want to sell

      mail me details: manowar at gmail dotcom

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        • FredIsMe
          So Fucking Banned
          • Dec 2004
          • 2406
          #3
          I'd say over $100K easily

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            • Mr.Right - Banned For Life
              I guarantee it
              • May 2005
              • 18314
              #4
              Why is it always the friend, why not just come out and say it is you.

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                • DutchTeenCash
                  I like Dutch Girls
                  • Feb 2003
                  • 21684
                  #5
                  depends a lot on how things are organised, stock content, contracts, members base, merchant accounts yes/no etc etc

                  but my ballpark : 200-250k

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                    • clickclickclick
                      Confirmed User
                      • Jan 2005
                      • 1227
                      #6
                      its safe to say that every month a small % of it would decrease unless he buys the distribution channels too.
                      if you need more than 3 clicks to get to a join page, something is wrong ;)

                      p.s. i still bring the sales whores here.

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                        • Alky
                          Confirmed User
                          • Apr 2002
                          • 5651
                          #7
                          i dont even think over 100k... really depends on where his where his sales are coming from today, how many sales per day ... rebill %. and whatnot. you really arent giving enough info to tell.

                          after all, 11k a month, (buying it for 100k) i would have to go 9 months until i see some profit... thats pretty long in this business.

                          but i was leaning more towards 60-70k not knowing any info.

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                            • woj
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                              • Jul 2002
                              • 47880
                              #8
                              depends on many factors, how much of the profit is from affiliates if any? how much content? is the content exclusive? What niche? etc etc
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                                • Pornwolf
                                  Drunk and Unruly
                                  • Jan 2002
                                  • 22712
                                  #9
                                  Originally posted by Batts
                                  Why is it always the friend, why not just come out and say it is you.

                                  I don't get this either. They never want to come out and say it.
                                  I've trusted my sites to them for over a decade...

                                  Webair, bitches.

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                                    • shuki
                                      Confirmed User
                                      • Aug 2004
                                      • 3070
                                      #10
                                      e-mail me or leave his e-mail and I will buy it.
                                      Looking to buy established paysites contact me [email protected]

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                                        • FUCKuPAYme
                                          Confirmed User
                                          • Jan 2003
                                          • 1023
                                          #11
                                          Originally posted by Alky
                                          i dont even think over 100k... really depends on where his where his sales are coming from today, how many sales per day ... rebill %. and whatnot. you really arent giving enough info to tell.

                                          after all, 11k a month, (buying it for 100k) i would have to go 9 months until i see some profit... thats pretty long in this business.

                                          but i was leaning more towards 60-70k not knowing any info.
                                          I agree and what if its al mail traffic and the traffic source drops then the chargebacks and everything else catch up..

                                          depends on many factors but the norm is about 3 times the members data base. unless you find a sucker
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                                            • imaginax
                                              Confirmed User
                                              • Jun 2002
                                              • 463
                                              #12
                                              Originally posted by Batts
                                              Why is it always the friend, why not just come out and say it is you.
                                              I wish it was me. I am a graphic designer. I enjoy designing too much to do anything else.
                                              imaginax - Design is Art
                                              ICQ: 279-723-701

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                                                • DutchTeenCash
                                                  I like Dutch Girls
                                                  • Feb 2003
                                                  • 21684
                                                  #13
                                                  Originally posted by Alky
                                                  i dont even think over 100k... really depends on where his where his sales are coming from today, how many sales per day ... rebill %. and whatnot. you really arent giving enough info to tell.

                                                  after all, 11k a month, (buying it for 100k) i would have to go 9 months until i see some profit... thats pretty long in this business.

                                                  but i was leaning more towards 60-70k not knowing any info.
                                                  im talkin 200-250 if it has a steady members base, recurring plus new signups, stock content etc etc, buying blind I wouldnt even go over 25k. We all know how revenue suddenly can dissapear.

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                                                    • imaginax
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                                                      • Jun 2002
                                                      • 463
                                                      #14
                                                      Originally posted by FUCKuPAYme
                                                      I agree and what if its al mail traffic and the traffic source drops then the chargebacks and everything else catch up..

                                                      depends on many factors but the norm is about 3 times the members data base. unless you find a sucker
                                                      Ok, here is more info for you guys:

                                                      1. Virtually NONE of the members have been acquired through mail traffic.
                                                      2. He does have an affiliate base of 100 active webmasters pushing the site currently.
                                                      3. Extremly low chargeback ratio.

                                                      Now what do you mean by "the norm is about 3 times the members data base."?

                                                      And is there really a common or relied upon formula to figure out what a Paysite is worth?
                                                      imaginax - Design is Art
                                                      ICQ: 279-723-701

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                                                        • DutchTeenCash
                                                          I like Dutch Girls
                                                          • Feb 2003
                                                          • 21684
                                                          #15
                                                          Originally posted by imaginax
                                                          Ok, here is more info for you guys:

                                                          1. Virtually NONE of the members have been acquired through mail traffic.
                                                          2. He does have an affiliate base of 100 active webmasters pushing the site currently.
                                                          3. Extremly low chargeback ratio.

                                                          Now what do you mean by "the norm is about 3 times the members data base."?

                                                          And is there really a common or relied upon formula to figure out what a Paysite is worth?
                                                          100 webmasters??? aka his nett revenue is generated without webmasters. So where do his signgups originate from? ads? google? TGP spots?

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                                                            • shuki
                                                              Confirmed User
                                                              • Aug 2004
                                                              • 3070
                                                              #16
                                                              Is it studio cash?
                                                              Looking to buy established paysites contact me [email protected]

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                                                                • sonofsam
                                                                  Too lazy to set a custom title
                                                                  • Dec 2004
                                                                  • 18648
                                                                  #17
                                                                  Originally posted by thinkx
                                                                  but my ballpark : 200-250k
                                                                  you got a lot of balls paying 200-250k for a site making 11k/month
                                                                  I like turtles.

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                                                                    • GTS Mark
                                                                      Vrume Mark
                                                                      • Jan 2001
                                                                      • 20912
                                                                      #18
                                                                      Originally posted by thinkx
                                                                      depends a lot on how things are organised, stock content, contracts, members base, merchant accounts yes/no etc etc

                                                                      but my ballpark : 200-250k
                                                                      I think that's about right...

                                                                      DH

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                                                                        • TheDoc
                                                                          Too lazy to set a custom title
                                                                          • Jul 2001
                                                                          • 13827
                                                                          #19
                                                                          250k+ 11k x 24 months... + un-updated content costs.
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                                                                            • imaginax
                                                                              Confirmed User
                                                                              • Jun 2002
                                                                              • 463
                                                                              #20
                                                                              Originally posted by shuki
                                                                              Is it studio cash?
                                                                              No. It's a single Paysite, not an affiliate program. The niche is Japenese Porn.
                                                                              imaginax - Design is Art
                                                                              ICQ: 279-723-701

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                                                                                • WiredGuy
                                                                                  Pounding Googlebot
                                                                                  • Aug 2002
                                                                                  • 34515
                                                                                  #21
                                                                                  Is he getting new joins, does his traffic source come with the sale, how many members, whats his retention... lots of questions need to be asked here.
                                                                                  WG
                                                                                  I play with Google.

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                                                                                    • DutchTeenCash
                                                                                      I like Dutch Girls
                                                                                      • Feb 2003
                                                                                      • 21684
                                                                                      #22
                                                                                      Originally posted by sonofsam
                                                                                      you got a lot of balls paying 200-250k for a site making 11k/month
                                                                                      like I said if its all organised, stock content etc etc then Id be willing to pay that. But what the guy posted, 100 actively promoting webbies, made my offer drop with 50% at least.

                                                                                      An active aff base of 100 is extremely low, meaning his 11k nett comes from direct signups. They arent falling out of the sky, so where do he get them.

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                                                                                        • imaginax
                                                                                          Confirmed User
                                                                                          • Jun 2002
                                                                                          • 463
                                                                                          #23
                                                                                          Originally posted by TheDoc
                                                                                          250k+ 11k x 24 months... + un-updated content costs.
                                                                                          Doc, so roughly 24 months of profits?
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                                                                                            • shuki
                                                                                              Confirmed User
                                                                                              • Aug 2004
                                                                                              • 3070
                                                                                              #24
                                                                                              e-mail me direct and lets talk all the details.
                                                                                              Looking to buy established paysites contact me [email protected]

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                                                                                                • Downtime
                                                                                                  Confirmed User
                                                                                                  • May 2004
                                                                                                  • 7320
                                                                                                  #25
                                                                                                  i'd say 150k-200k is fair based on what i've read
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                                                                                                    • DutchTeenCash
                                                                                                      I like Dutch Girls
                                                                                                      • Feb 2003
                                                                                                      • 21684
                                                                                                      #26
                                                                                                      Originally posted by imaginax
                                                                                                      Doc, so roughly 24 months of profits?
                                                                                                      thats reasonable with a HUGE IF. If hes serious then Im sure there are ppl willing to talk. But keep in mind that without a steady membes/aff base no stock content no schedules or whatsoever it could easily drop to 25k.

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                                                                                                        • shuki
                                                                                                          Confirmed User
                                                                                                          • Aug 2004
                                                                                                          • 3070
                                                                                                          #27
                                                                                                          Originally posted by thinkx
                                                                                                          thats reasonable with a HUGE IF. If hes serious then Im sure there are ppl willing to talk. But keep in mind that without a steady membes/aff base no stock content no schedules or whatsoever it could easily drop to 25k.
                                                                                                          I agree 100%

                                                                                                          Either list all the variables or move this to e-mail with interested parties
                                                                                                          Looking to buy established paysites contact me [email protected]

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                                                                                                            • Trax
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                                                                                                              • Aug 2001
                                                                                                              • 14486
                                                                                                              #28
                                                                                                              24 months profit lol
                                                                                                              for that I will sell you all sites that I own
                                                                                                              right away
                                                                                                              for 24 months worth the profit I will sell you anything

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                                                                                                                • shuki
                                                                                                                  Confirmed User
                                                                                                                  • Aug 2004
                                                                                                                  • 3070
                                                                                                                  #29
                                                                                                                  Originally posted by Trax
                                                                                                                  24 months profit lol
                                                                                                                  for that I will sell you all sites that I own
                                                                                                                  right away
                                                                                                                  for 24 months worth the profit I will sell you anything
                                                                                                                  What kind of goodies do you have?
                                                                                                                  Looking to buy established paysites contact me [email protected]

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                                                                                                                    • Alex
                                                                                                                      So Fucking Banned (YEA!!)
                                                                                                                      • Jun 2004
                                                                                                                      • 10963
                                                                                                                      #30
                                                                                                                      About 4-6 months of profit
                                                                                                                      + All the cost of content, design, coding already paid for.
                                                                                                                      And then a 25% markup.
                                                                                                                      Around the $100ks area.
                                                                                                                      Last edited by Alex; 02-21-2006, 03:00 PM.
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                                                                                                                        • TheDoc
                                                                                                                          Too lazy to set a custom title
                                                                                                                          • Jul 2001
                                                                                                                          • 13827
                                                                                                                          #31
                                                                                                                          Originally posted by Trax
                                                                                                                          24 months profit lol
                                                                                                                          for that I will sell you all sites that I own
                                                                                                                          right away
                                                                                                                          for 24 months worth the profit I will sell you anything
                                                                                                                          24 months of profit, that you could make on your own anyway, isn't that much for a company that can grow. Even for a half dead site.

                                                                                                                          I would sell mine for 24 months of net, only because I have other things going. If my program was my only income, I wouldn't budge for anything under 24 months of gross.
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                                                                                                                            • DaddyHalbucks
                                                                                                                              A freakin' legend!
                                                                                                                              • Feb 2004
                                                                                                                              • 18975
                                                                                                                              #32
                                                                                                                              It's worth what someone will pay.

                                                                                                                              If you can get 24 times your monthly profit, your should probably take it and run all the way to the bank. In this business climate, adult paysites are risky.

                                                                                                                              However, there are too many unknown factors to be precise about valuation.

                                                                                                                              The domain alone could be worth $100k. If you have a pending lawsuit, the value could be zero, or even a negative number (liability).
                                                                                                                              Boner Money

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                                                                                                                                • andrej_NDC
                                                                                                                                  Registered User
                                                                                                                                  • May 2004
                                                                                                                                  • 7760
                                                                                                                                  #33
                                                                                                                                  2 years at least...Anyone who got that kind of money, is clever enough to stay at the monthly profit, at least, but more likely to increase it. I wouldn't sell my paysites even for 3 years worth of income, because of the growth, the seller would have the money back in 1-2 years.

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                                                                                                                                    • Manowar
                                                                                                                                      jellyfish  
                                                                                                                                      • Dec 2003
                                                                                                                                      • 71528
                                                                                                                                      #34
                                                                                                                                      I'm serious about mailing me the details btw

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                                                                                                                                        • V_RocKs
                                                                                                                                          Damn Right I Kiss Ass!
                                                                                                                                          • Nov 2003
                                                                                                                                          • 32451
                                                                                                                                          #35
                                                                                                                                          Originally posted by Alky
                                                                                                                                          i dont even think over 100k... really depends on where his where his sales are coming from today, how many sales per day ... rebill %. and whatnot. you really arent giving enough info to tell.

                                                                                                                                          after all, 11k a month, (buying it for 100k) i would have to go 9 months until i see some profit... thats pretty long in this business.

                                                                                                                                          but i was leaning more towards 60-70k not knowing any info.
                                                                                                                                          I share your thoughts on this one.

                                                                                                                                          Also the guy is a nobody here so I'd ask for a $8,000 nobody discount.

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