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  • d00t
    Confirmed User
    • Sep 2002
    • 3766
    #1

    I'm going to confront a chargeback'ing surfer... what would you do?

    So this scum fuck surfer decided to chargeback a few transactions on my sites after downloading a LOT of content. I've got their home phone# and address .. and I'm prepared to fly 2 hours to visit them in person.

    What would you do and how would you handle a confrontation?
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    • JuiceMonkey
      Confirmed User
      • Oct 2004
      • 3581
      #2
      let's go, I'll go grab a case of beer for the run.
      ICQ: 72251955 GTalk: JuiceMonkey

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        • chupachups
          Confirmed User
          • Dec 2002
          • 6576
          #3
          Maybe you should forget about confronting him, and just send him a bag of dogpoop?

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            • StatsJunky
              Confirmed User
              • Aug 2005
              • 639
              #4
              I would forget about it and go do something enjoying rather than letting it stress you out.
              erik AT suthnet.com

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                • d00t
                  Confirmed User
                  • Sep 2002
                  • 3766
                  #5
                  where's your imagination? This is like the ultimate dream for any paysite owner... to finally get even!

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                    • NoWhErE
                      Too lazy to set a custom title
                      • Sep 2005
                      • 10583
                      #6
                      Why would ypu bother wasting money to visit some hillbilly?

                      Just o what any sane person would do... send him a virus that will wipe out his hardrives
                      skype: lordofthecameltoe

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                        • Slick
                          Confirmed User
                          • Feb 2001
                          • 7338
                          #7
                          The thing is that YOU were the one that somehow figured out his credit card number and charged his credit card because the guy NEVER looks at porn, ask his wife, she'll tell you.

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                            • Donny
                              As you wish...
                              • May 2002
                              • 13754
                              #8
                              I'd send him an email explaining how badly chargebacks affect your business, how you thought about visiting in person to explain it to him, but how you decided to write a letter instead because you know he probably didn't realize what a serious issue it was. Then tell him to always contact you first before charging back again and be his friend.

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                                • JuiceMonkey
                                  Confirmed User
                                  • Oct 2004
                                  • 3581
                                  #9
                                  Originally posted by Slick
                                  The thing is that YOU were the one that somehow figured out his credit card number and charged his credit card because the guy NEVER looks at porn, ask his wife, she'll tell you.
                                  It's a chick who charged back
                                  ICQ: 72251955 GTalk: JuiceMonkey

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                                    • PMdave
                                      Confirmed User
                                      • Dec 2003
                                      • 1517
                                      #10
                                      Sent a letter with very detailed info on what he downloaded and when (inculde scene names, ip adress, the whole bunch.) Instead of Mr XXX you "accidently" adress it to Mrs XXX. Tell him in the letter one of your employees will come by his house to discuss the matter in order to solve the case in a reasonble way. Make it very clear that you can prove he entered the site and downloaded all the content and unless he can proof his card was stolen (which he obviously can't) or is willing to settle the case you will sue him and press charges for fraud.

                                      Just scare the shit out of him without making your hands dirty.

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                                        • Nismo
                                          Confirmed User
                                          • May 2002
                                          • 4977
                                          #11
                                          bro, please dont come to my house. my mommy will find out ive been looking at pr0n.
                                          i buy massive xxx dating traffic.

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                                            • ianbravo
                                              Registered User
                                              • Jan 2006
                                              • 81
                                              #12
                                              It will cost you $500 plus $4,000 in attorney fees

                                              I usually questions on this site and everyone seems to be helpful. So giving you some advice, dont do it!!!! there are state statutes in place that, once you try to collect a debt that is owed to you, you must do certain things otherwise your our $4,500. Send the bill to a shady collection company and take 20%.

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                                                • PMdave
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                                                  • Dec 2003
                                                  • 1517
                                                  #13
                                                  Originally posted by ianbravo
                                                  I usually questions on this site and everyone seems to be helpful. So giving you some advice, dont do it!!!! there are state statutes in place that, once you try to collect a debt that is owed to you, you must do certain things otherwise your our $4,500. Send the bill to a shady collection company and take 20%.
                                                  He ain't collecting nothing. He is just making it clear that the surfer knows the concequenses of his charge back.

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                                                    • d00t
                                                      Confirmed User
                                                      • Sep 2002
                                                      • 3766
                                                      #14
                                                      Originally posted by PMdave
                                                      He ain't collecting nothing. He is just making it clear that the surfer knows the concequenses of his charge back.
                                                      a video might go down well ... which all new members are required to watch before enterring the members area

                                                      having them beat to near death... what do you think?

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                                                        • SmokeyTheBear
                                                          ►SouthOfHeaven
                                                          • Jun 2004
                                                          • 28609
                                                          #15
                                                          first i would make sure its not a mistake.. mey not ne your or their mistake.. sometimes its the cc card..

                                                          I lost my wallet one time and someone used it at a few places , and they charged back a few things by mistake.

                                                          Does the billing name( company name ) on the credit card reflect your business name..

                                                          i.e. does it say "web billing" or "iblt enterprises" or "ct inc. " or "pimpin pays"
                                                          hatisblack at yahoo.com

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                                                            • Nismo
                                                              Confirmed User
                                                              • May 2002
                                                              • 4977
                                                              #16
                                                              Originally posted by d00t
                                                              a video might go down well ... which all new members are required to watch before enterring the members area

                                                              having them beat to near death... what do you think?
                                                              put the video on the tours join page. should do well.
                                                              i buy massive xxx dating traffic.

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                                                                • NETbilling
                                                                  Confirmed User
                                                                  • Jan 2002
                                                                  • 8598
                                                                  #17
                                                                  Hi,

                                                                  I would certainly send him a collections letter threatening to add the charges to his credit report and demand cashiers check or money order for reimbursement... and for the hell of it, call the local police in his town and see if you can get some action from them for credit card fraud.

                                                                  Mitch


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                                                                    • GatorB
                                                                      The Demon & 12clicks
                                                                      • Oct 2001
                                                                      • 18208
                                                                      #18
                                                                      Originally posted by NetBilling
                                                                      Hi,

                                                                      I would certainly send him a collections letter threatening to add the charges to his credit report and demand cashiers check or money order for reimbursement... and for the hell of it, call the local police in his town and see if you can get some action from them for credit card fraud.

                                                                      Mitch
                                                                      Put an ad in the local papper telling everyone how he downloaded all this PORN and never paid. Bet he won't do that again.


                                                                      I wil say though it is this industry that has been giving the surfer the mindset that porn should be FREE for the last 10 years so should we really be surprised when people expect it to be so?

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                                                                        • WarChild
                                                                          Let slip the dogs of war.
                                                                          • Jan 2003
                                                                          • 17263
                                                                          #19
                                                                          Wouldn't that be cool if you showed up there and it's some big meat head that just kicked your ass or maybe even shot you? I bet that $34.95 would sure be worth it then!
                                                                          .

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                                                                            • venus
                                                                              Confirmed User
                                                                              • Jan 2003
                                                                              • 3112
                                                                              #20
                                                                              I call them.
                                                                              people who do 1 or 2 chargebacks or who refunds I email them, the ones who try to chargeback a bunch of charges I call them and ask them why and then inform them I am selling their account to a collection agency.
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                                                                                • Snake Doctor
                                                                                  I'm Lenny2 Bitch
                                                                                  • Mar 2001
                                                                                  • 13449
                                                                                  #21
                                                                                  Originally posted by d00t

                                                                                  What would you do
                                                                                  I'd quit fucking whining and go out and get some new members.

                                                                                  Nothing you can do about this....besides, just because someone signed up with a credit card and then downloaded a shitload of content DOESN'T MEAN IT WAS THE OWNER OF THE CARD WHO SIGNED UP.

                                                                                  People still do get their information stolen now and again.

                                                                                  Get over it.
                                                                                  sig too big

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                                                                                    • robfantasy
                                                                                      Confirmed User
                                                                                      • Jun 2002
                                                                                      • 6445
                                                                                      #22
                                                                                      i would video tape the encounter and post it on a file sharing network
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                                                                                        • PMdave
                                                                                          Confirmed User
                                                                                          • Dec 2003
                                                                                          • 1517
                                                                                          #23
                                                                                          Originally posted by GatorB

                                                                                          I wil say though it is this industry that has been giving the surfer the mindset that porn should be FREE for the last 10 years so should we really be surprised when people expect it to be so?
                                                                                          Sure but when he pulled his creditcard he saw and agreed to a message that clearly stated that he would be charged x amaunt every month untill he canceled.
                                                                                          And hey I won a digital camera once, and you get one for free for all kinds of things (mobile contract, magazine subscription, ...,....) does that mean I can go into any store take all their cams and leave without paying?

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                                                                                            • mikeyddddd
                                                                                              Viva la vulva!
                                                                                              • Mar 2003
                                                                                              • 16557
                                                                                              #24
                                                                                              Tell his mom. She'll probably ground him. For a loooong time.

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                                                                                                • aico
                                                                                                  Moo Moo Cow
                                                                                                  • Mar 2004
                                                                                                  • 14748
                                                                                                  #25
                                                                                                  subscribe him to every gay porno mag you can find.

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                                                                                                    • 3M TA3
                                                                                                      Confirmed User
                                                                                                      • Aug 2005
                                                                                                      • 2972
                                                                                                      #26
                                                                                                      http://www.zillow.com/

                                                                                                      figure out how much his house it worth to see if the trip is even worth it.

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                                                                                                        • Midwest Shane
                                                                                                          ValMidwest rocks
                                                                                                          • Sep 2004
                                                                                                          • 1202
                                                                                                          #27
                                                                                                          Wow those are some great ideas! I just send them a message explaining how much time and effort I put into my website. I also let them know that this is my job and how I pay my bills. I just can't be mean to them as much as I would like too. Melissa

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                                                                                                            • d00t
                                                                                                              Confirmed User
                                                                                                              • Sep 2002
                                                                                                              • 3766
                                                                                                              #28
                                                                                                              lol guys you are too serious ... this person lives closer to me so I thought it might be fun to get even for once. This is not about reclaiming funds or making an example of them. It's about entertainment and scaring them shitless in the process ;)

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                                                                                                                • d00t
                                                                                                                  Confirmed User
                                                                                                                  • Sep 2002
                                                                                                                  • 3766
                                                                                                                  #29
                                                                                                                  Originally posted by HotMelissa
                                                                                                                  Wow those are some great ideas! I just send them a message explaining how much time and effort I put into my website. I also let them know that this is my job and how I pay my bills. I just can't be mean to them as much as I would like too. Melissa
                                                                                                                  for a membership ill chase up every single one for you

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                                                                                                                    • mikeyddddd
                                                                                                                      Viva la vulva!
                                                                                                                      • Mar 2003
                                                                                                                      • 16557
                                                                                                                      #30
                                                                                                                      Melissa,

                                                                                                                      GO BIG RED!

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                                                                                                                        • Tempest
                                                                                                                          Too lazy to set a custom title
                                                                                                                          • May 2004
                                                                                                                          • 10217
                                                                                                                          #31
                                                                                                                          Forward you're copy of gay avn to him in a clear plastic baggy every month.

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                                                                                                                            • d00t
                                                                                                                              Confirmed User
                                                                                                                              • Sep 2002
                                                                                                                              • 3766
                                                                                                                              #32
                                                                                                                              Originally posted by Tempest
                                                                                                                              Forward you're copy of gay avn to him in a clear plastic baggy every month.
                                                                                                                              can you forward me your copy?

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                                                                                                                                • Grapesoda
                                                                                                                                  So Fucking Banned
                                                                                                                                  • Jul 2003
                                                                                                                                  • 46234
                                                                                                                                  #33
                                                                                                                                  Originally posted by chupachups
                                                                                                                                  Maybe you should forget about confronting him, and just send him a bag of dogpoop?

                                                                                                                                  like this?

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                                                                                                                                    • SGS
                                                                                                                                      Confirmed User
                                                                                                                                      • Dec 2002
                                                                                                                                      • 5176
                                                                                                                                      #34
                                                                                                                                      Ask Dick Cheney to invite him hunting.
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                                                                                                                                        • Promo Chicks
                                                                                                                                          Confirmed User
                                                                                                                                          • Oct 2005
                                                                                                                                          • 470
                                                                                                                                          #35
                                                                                                                                          Watch the movie Punch-Drunk Love befor you go
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                                                                                                                                            • MikeVega
                                                                                                                                              **Porntrepreneur**
                                                                                                                                              • Jul 2004
                                                                                                                                              • 12788
                                                                                                                                              #36
                                                                                                                                              Originally posted by d00t
                                                                                                                                              lol guys you are too serious ... this person lives closer to me so I thought it might be fun to get even for once. This is not about reclaiming funds or making an example of them. It's about entertainment and scaring them shitless in the process ;)
                                                                                                                                              what makes you think you'll scare the shit out of him? you may show up and get the shit beat out of you. for some reason everyone on the web always pictures the guy on the other end as a skinny little wimp beating off in the dark at his mom's house ... I can say that if anyone just showed up at my house (were my wife and kids are) to try to scare me. I'm not going to just say sorry sir and go back inside ... I would rethink and just write him a letter ..


                                                                                                                                              Mike Vega-ICQ:253868499-AIM:mikeydicevega

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                                                                                                                                                • Pinklinkz
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                                                                                                                                                  • Nov 2005
                                                                                                                                                  • 658
                                                                                                                                                  #37
                                                                                                                                                  take the money you would spend on flights
                                                                                                                                                  and buy a lorry load of fish guts in their name and address
                                                                                                                                                  tell them its to fertilize your lawn so to deliver it and just dump it on the front garden, tell them you'll be at work so no need for a signiture as no one is going to steal it
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                                                                                                                                                    • Rui
                                                                                                                                                      web
                                                                                                                                                      • Dec 2001
                                                                                                                                                      • 9533
                                                                                                                                                      #38
                                                                                                                                                      Originally posted by MikeVega
                                                                                                                                                      what makes you think you'll scare the shit out of him? you may show up and get the shit beat out of you. for some reason everyone on the web always pictures the guy on the other end as a skinny little wimp beating off in the dark at his mom's house ... I can say that if anyone just showed up at my house (were my wife and kids are) to try to scare me. I'm not going to just say sorry sir and go back inside ... I would rethink and just write him a letter ..
                                                                                                                                                      What makes you think you would be able to fight anybody (i'm asking this because its not the first time i see this sort of reply from you when it comes to violence)?

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                                                                                                                                                        • jjjay
                                                                                                                                                          Registered User
                                                                                                                                                          • Jun 2005
                                                                                                                                                          • 1813
                                                                                                                                                          #39
                                                                                                                                                          welcome to the internet

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                                                                                                                                                            • jjjay
                                                                                                                                                              Registered User
                                                                                                                                                              • Jun 2005
                                                                                                                                                              • 1813
                                                                                                                                                              #40
                                                                                                                                                              ps. if you really want to avoid chargebacks just send your customers a cheap package and get a signature. it's that simple

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                                                                                                                                                                • MikeVega
                                                                                                                                                                  **Porntrepreneur**
                                                                                                                                                                  • Jul 2004
                                                                                                                                                                  • 12788
                                                                                                                                                                  #41
                                                                                                                                                                  Originally posted by Rui
                                                                                                                                                                  What makes you think you would be able to fight anybody (i'm asking this because its not the first time i see this sort of reply from you when it comes to violence)?
                                                                                                                                                                  I don't get what you mean ... I saying it's not worth going over there and possible getting his ass kicked ... if your referring to me saying that i don't think it would be a great idea for someone to just show up to my home where my family lives to threated me ... I think that applies to most people big / small / strong / weak .. most men will defend there home. he doesn't know this guy and it's not worth the risk.

                                                                                                                                                                  If your asking what makes me think i can handle myself then that's a long post. to keep it short ..i'm a fairly tough guy ..I can handle myself and have on many occasions .. I come from a fairly hard background grew up poor and had a father that did many years in and out of jail (over 7 years of his life).. taught me to take shit from no one and hurt anyone that gets in your way. Once your taught to put fear aside at any cost and protect yourself that stays with you.

                                                                                                                                                                  since I got married 8 years ago and had kids ..I've lived a very straight life and even wrote off my farther because of is continuous involvement in crime. In fact the last time i saw him was about 1 1/2 ago when i picked him up from serving 1 year for a felony ... brought him to probation and gave him some cash to get on his feet ... a week after that he called looking for some "start up money" and told me he missed probation ... I changed my # and haven't heard back .. I wish him luck but i can't be around that shit ..I run a honest biz and have a family to worry about ...

                                                                                                                                                                  My point being that you wouldn't know that about me based on a credit card purchase ... he'd show up at my house and enter a bad situation ... it's basic instinct to protect your family and home.


                                                                                                                                                                  Mike Vega-ICQ:253868499-AIM:mikeydicevega

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                                                                                                                                                                    • bringer
                                                                                                                                                                      i have man boobies
                                                                                                                                                                      • Jul 2003
                                                                                                                                                                      • 13082
                                                                                                                                                                      #42
                                                                                                                                                                      set yourself on fire in his yard to protest
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                                                                                                                                                                        • GuiltyGroups
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                                                                                                                                                                          • Feb 2006
                                                                                                                                                                          • 103
                                                                                                                                                                          #43
                                                                                                                                                                          Originally posted by aico
                                                                                                                                                                          subscribe him to every gay porno mag you can find.
                                                                                                                                                                          Sign me up too please
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                                                                                                                                                                            • spunkmaster
                                                                                                                                                                              Confirmed User
                                                                                                                                                                              • Jan 2004
                                                                                                                                                                              • 2052
                                                                                                                                                                              #44
                                                                                                                                                                              Don't do anything anybody here has told you to do or you may put
                                                                                                                                                                              your credit card processing account in serious harm !

                                                                                                                                                                              Write it off as a tax loss as an uncollected debt and move on !

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                                                                                                                                                                                • Barefootsies
                                                                                                                                                                                  Choice is an Illusion
                                                                                                                                                                                  • Feb 2005
                                                                                                                                                                                  • 42635
                                                                                                                                                                                  #45
                                                                                                                                                                                  It happens all the time in this business. About the best thing you can do, and what I do, is block his IP's, credit cards, and all that jazz so he can never sign up for anything you own again. Obviously you had somethiing of interest to this joker, so he might try this shit in another year when you have more content.

                                                                                                                                                                                  Just block everything about him so he can't do anything, and when/if he contacts you (which has happened from time to time) THEN you hit him with the drama.

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                                                                                                                                                                                    • Major (Tom)
                                                                                                                                                                                      So Fucking Banned
                                                                                                                                                                                      • Nov 2003
                                                                                                                                                                                      • 32492
                                                                                                                                                                                      #46
                                                                                                                                                                                      this guy charged back on me www.curtcarbone.com

                                                                                                                                                                                      check out what a tool he is.

                                                                                                                                                                                      duke

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                                                                                                                                                                                        • Major (Tom)
                                                                                                                                                                                          So Fucking Banned
                                                                                                                                                                                          • Nov 2003
                                                                                                                                                                                          • 32492
                                                                                                                                                                                          #47
                                                                                                                                                                                          Originally posted by MikeVega
                                                                                                                                                                                          what makes you think you'll scare the shit out of him? you may show up and get the shit beat out of you. for some reason everyone on the web always pictures the guy on the other end as a skinny little wimp beating off in the dark at his mom's house ... I can say that if anyone just showed up at my house (were my wife and kids are) to try to scare me. I'm not going to just say sorry sir and go back inside ... I would rethink and just write him a letter ..

                                                                                                                                                                                          They arent scared of vioilence mike.. their only fear is being exposed as a deadbeatpervert. thats the best way to get these fucks.. not violence.
                                                                                                                                                                                          Duke

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