In the beginning, R_N created...

levi's still a pimp

Funny thing is 90% of the people here have no idea about any of this old school stuff.

Ron is Ron, but in the end he has made a fortune while some of us still have to sling porn to make a living. Including myself.

Which is why they must learn from the good book of R_n...

hahaha, great story man...i remember some of that shit, not all though...the fourth day and ahead is about where I start remembering first hand

If he created DMR, he did a half-assed job ;)

Ah, that sounds like a comment that can only be made by someone with a little age and wisdom.

Interesting to say the least. Puts a funny twist, to some of it.

excuse me. you'll be receiving a dmca notice shortly

http://ww2.quickbuck.com/news.php?desc=1

Well you can definitely say he was a go getter hehe

Far-L
perfect send off for a night on the town

Is "R_N" --- like Voldemort in Harry Potter --- "The one who must not be named"?

lol! that is hilarious - yours is way way funnier btw...

and who was the one to dub him 'R-n'? me.

The same ones who dub God "G_d"

Joe Elkind was/is Jewish and whenever he posted the word God he'd spell it G-d - Jews are taught to do that - God is so great that mortals can't even refer to him as God when they write. So I began to type R-n and people jumped on the R-n bandwagon. He had descended on Oprano and was threatening to smite MikeAI and maybe Serge who were baiting him again.

Yea I say unto thee, my brother, that thou is correct in thine assertion that you originated it, and I remember with joy those times, and our gratitude for that is forever and infinite!

Similar but any time h_s name that is not a name is mentioned means we all owe h_m that cannot be named more money since we would not be here if it were not for h_m.

I resent you even using my name in this.
You are a cheap shot scum bag, just like I thought.

I wonder why you even begged me to rebuild your online presence for Homegrown.Yes its true folks...

FarL offered me a job believe it or not and I declined. I got the proof if he even comes close to denying it. The reasons why I declined outah be quite obvious by now. Far L you are beyond pathetic and a walking casualty. Literally a PR nightmare and it would suck making excuses for your stupid and trite vendetta's.

Using my name for your Bullshit is beyond belief.

Never thought someone would snap harder than me or be as stupid but the day has come. You have surpassed my idiocy beyond belief.

Congratulations.

lol - I offered you work, you said you were too busy... then I saw your thread that you were hurting for work during the holidays - so I offered again and you said yes... then we never heard from you again and moved on. Your version is funny though so why don't we stick with that...

And the fact is you do bow before your lord and master R_n then try to tell me what is and is not pathetic.

Here is what you have to understand - any time you jump into a thread and tell me that R_n made me and I owe him you are going to get paid back in funny barbs. Live with it.

I sometimes wish I was R_n.

Alien, I like you. I like you a lot. But to be honest with you, you made a huge mistake if you turned down working for Homegrown. Homegrown is a very good, solid company who doesn't fuck people over. I highly suggest swallowing a little ego in this situation. No, seriously.

I took your thread of an Apology as honest and serious. I accepted, held audience with you on the phone where as both you and your brother offered me plenty of work.

You apoligised to me, I accepted and yet you still tie my name in your bullshit life.

Your brother whom is obviously way way way smarter than you must literally stab his fucken eyes out with pencils on a daily basis.

Now FarL you can take your apology.... Shove it straight up you're ass.


----- Original Message -----
From: "Farrell Timlake" <[email protected]>
To: <[email protected]>
Sent: Saturday, December 10, 2005 2:17 AM
Subject: RE: Homegrown, work, a public apology...


Thanks for getting back to me. If you ever have any content questions you
think I might be able to help with then please don't hesitate to ask.

The design work we wanted to offer was pretty comprehensive and will be
available if you decide to change your mind. We were looking for an output
deal to do the tours/member section of Homegrown Video and a slew of niche
sites we are about to launch. I wasn't sure what you meant by "turnkey" in
this instance but one could certainly call Homegrown a developed membership
site.

I am a big fan of the tour you did and was looking for tours along similar
lines. Hope you are cool if I use that as a guide since I am going to have
to use another designer in the absence of not being able to work with you.
Once again, if you do change your mind then the door will remain open.

There were plenty of funny exchanges over the years and even at its worst I
want you to know that I always appreciated your sense of humor through it
all and for that reason never held a grudge over any of it.

Good luck with your content!

- F


Farrell Timlake
President, Homegrown Video
Xplor Media Group, Inc.
New Destiny Internet Group

[email protected]
206-852-5566


________________________________

From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]]
Sent: Sat 12/10/2005 1:30 AM
To: Farrell Timlake
Subject: Re: Homegrown, work, a public apology...


Hey I really appreciate the generousity and the apolology.
Things just got out of hand between us and I myself do apologise back to you
in return.

Looking back on it, was some funny shit but yeah real feelings came into
play in some cases and thats never good. Life is to short and I am glad that
we have made amends.

Regarding business I seriously focusing on content production these days and
phasing out any design work for the most part unless its a turnkey developed
membership site. My business is centered now around creating entire sites
content and design and it does keep me quite busy.

Would be an honor to do design for ya but I really have not got the time at
all these days.

Keep in touch though, I for one am glad we no longer have to goto blows over
things that affected you're life and to a degree mine as well thats just far
to serious. HOpefulyl one day we can have a drink together and have a good
time

Good luck to you in the meanwhile!

Mark A. Baker
iAlien LLC.

----- Original Message -----
From: Farrell Timlake <mailto:[email protected]>
To: [email protected]
Sent: Friday, December 09, 2005 11:08 AM
Subject: Homegrown, work, a public apology...

Check this out -

http://www.gofuckyourself.com/showth...89#post8813389

Then let's talk doing some tours if you are up for it.

- F


Farrell Timlake
President, Homegrown Video
Xplor Media Group, Inc.
New Destiny Internet Group

[email protected]
206-852-5566

It's just a satire guys, no need to get all bent out of shape over it.

Exactly!!!

Reminds me of the Mohammed cartoons, and the reactions. Nice parallel here.

lol, yes indeed.

whatever... that is your choice. The apology was still sincere and my admiration for some of your work is still intact.

I just won't be hiring you since you blew us off and never got back to us which is typical of so many so called designers aka flakes. Maybe when you truly become a professional you won't bounce around so much from vocation to vocation and company to company...

Looks like you forgot a few....


From: Farrell Timlake Sent: Tue 12/20/2005 2:12 PM
To: [email protected]

We need some info from you on what you would like to do to proceed in terms what kind of output you would like to do. We can proceed to a contract once we know what you would like to do on a monthly basis. As I said before, we would like to have one design vision to unify and give more design coherence to all our properties and achieve a more focused branding from Homegrown Video (the flagship) through our satellite Xplor Media properties.

Our intention is to launch a new version of the member section in the first quarter of 2006 but we can start doing new Homegrown tours that are niche specific well before that. We also have niche sites that we will be launching in the first quarter as well - creampieclub, deepthroatvirgins, housewivesunleashed, naturalbush, wellhungamateurs, analtryouts, eyecontact (a pov bj series), sexkittens (barely legal lez), hornyover40, and I am sure there are a few more but that gives you an idea.

Thanks! Looking forward to hearing from you at your convenience.

- F

--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]]
Sent: Fri 12/16/2005 12:29 AM
To: Farrell Timlake
Subject: Re: Homegrown, work, a public apology...


Works perfect for me, will be good to finally talk to you, we can shape some
business and just kinda catch up on our experiences some.

Thank you for the prompt reply and I look forward to chatting with you

Mark

----- Original Message -----
From: "Farrell Timlake" <[email protected]>
To: <[email protected]>
Sent: Friday, December 16, 2005 12:04 AM
Subject: RE: Homegrown, work, a public apology...


Thanks! I will call you in the morning around 10 am pst if that works for
you.

- F


Farrell Timlake
President, Homegrown Video
Xplor Media Group, Inc.
New Destiny Internet Group

[email protected]
206-852-5566

________________________________

From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]]
Sent: Thu 12/15/2005 11:57 PM
To: Farrell Timlake
Subject: Re: Homegrown, work, a public apology...



Heya give me a call or gimmeh yer number lets actually in the morning;)

818-346-7006.

Mark



PS: We never heard back. You could not even bother to respond. Truly professional - especially after giving me the impression that you would do some work for hire and or consulting.

Goofball - now I understand why everyone fires you all the time.

On the 8th day Alien came in and made the thread all about him.

And on the 9th day.. the 10th day........................ right up until the present and undoubtedly in the future also.

my oh my

FarL...

IAlien LLC. was founded shortly after my employment at CE and I have not really been an employee of any other company since...

I accepted you're apology thats NOT good enough for you? I decided not to do any work for you, like I said I have many projects going on these days both Adult and Mainstream. I elected not to do business with you.

I am an Ex Employee of CE that you continue to herass even after accepting what I thought was a genuine and sincere apology DOCUMENTED and in Verse. I have nothing to do with you're fucked up life nor fucked up problems with Ron Levi and HIS Company.

I am a consultant, I am a designer and I am a content producer and it is my OWN company that me and my wife started up with our own money. I work hard on things and run a clean shop. Throwing my name around in your bullshit to get page views...

I do not deserve it especially after an apology.

You are disrespectful and dishonorable to the core.

Then the idiot says:

"Hope you are cool if I use that as a guide since I am going to have
to use another designer in the absence of not being able to work with you.
Once again, if you do change your mind then the door will remain open."

Yeah sure dude, hire some designer to basically steal my concepts if I dont work with you! Sounds great! (Sarcasm) Ghee I couldnt wait to jump in bed with you after such an insult...

Go ahead work away on what I have done LOL!
I am already off to new concepts that are making a killing...

Dust in the wind.

Can I call you alien? Im bored. Do you do phonesex?

Do you think you're the fucking pope or something?

Alien had in his right hand seven stars: and out of his mouth went a sharp two edged sword: and his countenance [was] as the sun shineth in his strength.

Rev 2:26 And he that overcometh, and keepeth my works unto the end, to him will I give power over the nations.

Rev 3:4 Thou hast a few names even in Porn Valley which have not defiled their garments; and they shall walk with me in white: for they are worthy.

Alien, Far-L

You're both stupid for posting emails and icq's. Who would even consider communicating with you after you pull shit like that ?

dude, alien, wtf man? I saw absolutely nothing wrong with anything Far-L said in those emails....you on the other hand come off as a complete moron, it is almost like you baited him over and over again to finally blow him off to boost your ego, just so you could run around the water cooler and say "i declined work from homegrown

get off your high horse man, you are burning bridges and losing work constantly and you never see it until you come on GFY begging for work

want some advice? check out webinc and dickmans, you will see a solid design company that worked hard and got what they deserved and then some!

dude, please realize that Alien is the one that started that shit, and Far-L was just throwing the rest in there for good measure...LOL

I do realize this. No problem.

And for the rest of you little faggots...

Kmfdm - Dogma Lyrics
All we want is a headrush
All we want is to get out of our skin for a while
We have nothing to lose because we don't have anything
Anything we want anyway...
We used to hate people
Now we just make fun of them
It's more effective that way
We don't live
We just scratch on day to day
With nothing but matchbooks and
Sarcasm in our pockets
And all we are waiting for
Is for something worth waiting for
Let's admit america gets the celebrities we deserve
Let's stop saying "Don't quote me"
Because if no one quotes you
You probably haven't said a thing worth saying

Sex, drugs, god, cash, America

We need something to kill the pain
Of all that nothing inside
We all just want to die a little bit
We fear that pop-culture
Is the only culture we're ever going to have
We want to stop reading magazines
Stop watching TV
Stop caring about hollywood
But we're addicted to the things we hate
We don't run washington and no one really does
Ask not what you can do for your country
Ask what your country did to you

Sex, drugs, god, cash, America

The only reason you're still alive is because someone
Has decided to let you live
We owe so much money we're not broke we're broken
We're so poor we can't even pay attention
So what do you want
You want to be famous and rich and happy
But you're terrified you have nothing to offer this world
Nothing to say and no way to say it
But you can say it in three languages
You are more than the sum of what you consume
Desire is not an occupation
You are alternately thrilled and desperate
Skyhigh and f**ked
Let's stop praying for someone
To save us and start saving ourselves
Let's stop this and start over
Let's go out - Let's keep going

Sex, drugs, god, cash, America

This is your life - This is your f**king life
We need something to kill
The pain of all that nothing inside
Quit whining you haven't done
Anything wrong because frankly
You haven't done much of anything
Someone's writing down your mistakes
Someone's documenting your downfall

Your point is well taken and I apologize. I simply felt that if he was going to make them public then it was fair game for me to do the same - especially if I felt he was creating a false impression - which he was.

Again.

You aren't making a killing. If you were then you wouldn't come on GFY begging for work hand outs.

And the only thing I like that you seem to think is your original concept is the uncluttered design... oh yeah... forgot - you originated uncluttered design too. You should be grateful that I publicly acknowledged your work in a positive way.

Besides, Goya was inspired by Rembrandt, does that make his work any less original?

Loser. Hope your daddy R_n is there to take care of you when you can't pay the rent....

Again.

Could we all get back onto the topic at hand please?

And give praise and worship to R-n?

Good point. Lettuce continue....

And on the 9th day, the holy R_N recalled his pledge to CDSmith back on day 4 (or was it day 3?) that he would never again close a correspondense with the dreaded phrase "peace out", ensuring 1000 years of joy and prosperity throughout the land of the pornnoniites.

In fall fairness, Ron was doing what every other single pornographer at that time was doing. "Back in the day" it was quite standard to pull pics off newgroups and post them inside member's areas. It was also standard to rebill as much as possible.

Ron can be tough to deal with and he and I have had our disagreements (actually just disagreement, singlular, and it was worked out years ago) but in working around, with and for Ron for almost 13 years, I have to give credit where credit it due. He's smart, he watches trends, and he knows when to pass things off to those who know more about something that he does.

Is he a God, internet or otherwise? Certainly not. But I do believe he's worked hard and long enough to deserve respect w/in the industry.

Plus, the battles between Ron and Serge are legendary - boards probably wouldn't be as popular as they are now w/o those two ;)

Tell us more stories, Uncle Far-L!

Huh? I think the only people rebilling "as much as possible" were the people that were unethical and just because there were a lot of unethical people doing stuff like that then did not make it "ok". Those people gave the industry a bad name and screwed processing up beyond belief for the rest of everyone else.

Why people and companies like that are revered is beyond me. Why someone that made their dollars like that should be respected is a complete mystery to me. No offense but anyone that thinks that is acceptable if you can get away with it is someone that raises serious trust issues for me.

Don't include us in that "what everyone was doing". We are not ok with it now or then or anytime in the future.