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Hey Andrew, you want to do a link trade ;-)
Sriously, this is a great interview and I am soo looking forward for upcomign questions. I think this will be the Smartest Ambush Sleazy's done.
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oh man catching up on this thread almost broke my brain! All that math talk? Damn i'm glad it's only saturday.
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Cool interview. Andrew, I hope you don't mind a couple of hardball questions...
1. Have you seen any effect of Myspace & other free services on A. Your Business & B. the overall sector.
2. What is the average retention sitewide on AFF and FF.
3. Which FFI sites retains the longest?
4. What's the ratio of free members to paid?
We always hear stuff about Adult Friend Finder FF but we rarely hear about the other "900" sites in the protfolio we are able to promote. Tell us about them.I've trusted my sites to them for over a decade...
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Yah, most shacks in the bay area cost more than mansions anywhere else.Originally posted by SleazyDream
Here's a lovely example http://www.mlslistings.com/common/pr...property&name= or go large with
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I do have my eyes open for a ranch or farm though - somewhere I can
motor around in a tractor and dig up stuff.
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Damn, thats almost as bad as Hawaii.Originally posted by TheProfessorYah, most shacks in the bay area cost more than mansions anywhere else.
Here's a lovely example http://www.mlslistings.com/common/pr...property&name= or go large with
http://www.mlslistings.com/common/pr...property&name=http://www.mlslistings.com/common/pr...property&name=
I do have my eyes open for a ranch or farm though - somewhere I can
motor around in a tractor and dig up stuff.
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Just wanted some solid business related questions...Originally posted by SleazyDreami guess you didn't like my questions....
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Those examples remind me why my husband and I stopped looking... It was way too depressing. Even if you can afford a home, it just seems wrong to pay those prices for such un-impressive houses. When I was younger, that is definetly not what I thought a "million dollar home" would look like!Originally posted by TheProfessorBetsy GoodComment
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Ha, these always make me laugh. My parents live in WNY and live on 23 acres for $92k they purchased and would sell for $129k. Only because of the custom work my dad has put into the house ... but he has his Kabota and everything. : )Originally posted by TheProfessorYah, most shacks in the bay area cost more than mansions anywhere else.
Here's a lovely example
I do have my eyes open for a ranch or farm though - somewhere I can
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Now I will have to program somethign in perl to test this....Originally posted by TheProfessorComment
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Well the only problem i see is i went through the 3 window version about 30 times and never got the car on the first guess. Why would that be? Because that would affect the odds.. or did i just not ever guess right on the first try.Originally posted by TheProfessorSure it could... but I programmed it to be fair
Try
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Originally posted by Lenny2
i may be an idiot but i think there is a fourth option:
The player picks empty door number 1. The game host picks the other empty door. Switching will win the car.
The player picks empty door number 2. The game host picks the other empty door. Switching will win the car.
The player picks the car. The game host picks one of the two empty doors. Switching will lose.
The player picks the car. The game host picks one of the two empty doors. Switching will lose.
that would make it 50/50
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I would have to agree hereOriginally posted by DatingGold
You HAVE to consider all the possibilities, even if two of them seem the same (Player picks the car).
Either way, personally I'd always stick with my first guess even if it presents no advantage
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Originally posted by TheProfessorYah, most shacks in the bay area cost more than mansions anywhere else.
Here's a lovely example http://www.mlslistings.com/common/pr...property&name= or go large with
http://www.mlslistings.com/common/pr...property&name=http://www.mlslistings.com/common/pr...property&name=
I do have my eyes open for a ranch or farm though - somewhere I can
motor around in a tractor and dig up stuff.
I like how the second link's ad says "Classic in Professorville"
Andrew, I have an ant farm I'll give you a good deal on
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Originally posted by JenniDahlingI like how the second link's ad says "Classic in Professorville"
Andrew, I have an ant farm I'll give you a good deal on
yeah housing in bay atrea is toally fucked up, but prices are now fallinghte bubble is bursting.
read this
http://patrick.net/housing/crash.html#linksComment
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Q. Have you seen any effect of Myspace & other free services on A. Your Business & B. the overall sector.Originally posted by Pornwolf
A: Myspace runs a 100% open model where people of all ages can
post most anything. While they have had amazing growth, they have
to rely almost entirely on mainstream advertisers for revenue. Its
similar to TGPs vs paysites - people still pay for paysites because
they don't want to weed through clutter and that service/content/etc
is better. We continue to grow at an incredible rate.
Q: What is the average retention sitewide on AFF and FF.
A: Very high - we have a whole team who's responsible for customer
happiness and retention.
Q: Which FFI sites retains the longest?
A: It really depends on your traffic source. ALT.com has a very long
retention rate because it's a tight niche with many motivated members.
OutPersonals.com is similar for gay men looking to hookup. Retention
is also all about satisfying people - as our sites are so active, members
know that they are getting their money's worth.
We're really excited about the new launch of http://cams.com as it is turning
out to have some of the highest repeat purchase rate measured.
It's definitely a site that gets it revenue out of "life of member"
than all up front.
Q: What's the ratio of free members to paid?
A: It all depends on traffic - some affiliates do 10-20 times better
conversions than others.
Q: We always hear stuff about Adult Friend Finder FF but we rarely hear about the other "900" sites in the protfolio we are able to promote. Tell us about them.
A: Ya, we have about 25 sites for a very wide range of traffic - each
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great interview!
didn't jerry yang graduate from stanford as well?
interesting.Originally posted by LegendaryLars
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Originally posted by Shoehorn!Damn, thats almost as bad as Hawaii.
ALMOST... but at least you know when you buy a house on the "mainland," you also get the land it sits on. Not always the case in HI.
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Easy, it became hip to be a geek... or at least there is moreOriginally posted by SleazyDream
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you repeated several of mine. maybe read what I asked firstOriginally posted by Mike33Your questions are great as usual. I just like to compliment them
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Originally posted by DatingGold
That is by design, you would not know if you picked it right until you were offered a 2nd choiceComment
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With all respect for everything you have reached to so far but that does not make any mathematical sense. When there are 3 doors there is a 1/3 chance and with 2 doors there is a 1/2 chance.Originally posted by TheProfessor
Playing this game on that website does not give more insight. The programmer might be biased and use the wrong variables.Comment
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Great umm, answers(?) to my questions.
You can easily be a Bush administration press agent. LOL
Oh well, I should have expected that after I saw your post about what's behibd the doors.
Just keep doing what you are doing because you guys are doing it fantastically!
Last edited by Pornwolf; 02-18-2006, 01:23 PM.I've trusted my sites to them for over a decade...
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The Friend Finder sites fulfill many important human needs. While we haveOriginally posted by SleazyDream
grown considerably over the past 10 years, there is much more to do. I have
grown as well - from being key to the company to being a part of an amazing
team. As we contine to bring in additional talent, I expect that my role
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Okay... here it comes... will Andrew answer #11????? Stay tuned. Same Bat time, same Bat channel.Comment
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great interview! I liked the yahoo story! hehe... isn't that the MOST visited website on the net?M&A QueenComment
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I read them all and counted only one repeat question, #33Originally posted by SleazyDreamyou repeated several of mine. maybe read what I asked firstComment
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great interview to do. nice guy.
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One other question: what type of hours do you work? Still 40+ hour weeks, more or less, same hours every day? I know of "newbies" and many successful people in the biz alike that still work tremendous hours (for example, I think Lars works hard, at least it seems so, even though he's already a complete success). In your position, you have the ability to have lots of time off, do you still work 5-7 day weeks?Comment
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Andrew works and has worked more than anyone I have ever met, he even works harder than I do and thats hard to do. For many years he would not even go home he slept in the office so he could keep beating on the code to tweak and make it right. Adult friend Finders success is due in large part to the fanatical ammount of time he has devoted to making the company kick ass. He still works 60-80 hours a week !Originally posted by Mike33Comment
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There is a 1/3 chance that you are right on the first guess.Originally posted by Pornopat
If you choose door number 1 and could switch to door number 2 and 3 would you take it?aamos AT FFN dot com
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Industry norm... here's a plot...Originally posted by SleazyDream
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Different game now? No more doors being taken out of the game?Originally posted by Sagi_AFF
Two doors give a 2/3 chance of winning the car so I would switch from one to two doors any day.
If one door is eliminated though this brings chances back to 1/2.
No need to switch then. I could switch or I could not switch depending on the tone and reputation of the person asking me...example" Are you suuuuuuuure you dont want to switch even though I think you are wrong and wont get anything" yeah..then I would probably switch.
This would not be based on mathematics but on psychology though.Comment
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I'm actually more of a matematician than a linguist... passion for linguistics comes from too much math ;)Originally posted by MrPheerYes this is correct. I'm glad that Linquist's name isnt Mathematician
As for me paying attention in the math class, go see for yourself. I'm too lazy to type it all out:
http://www.cs.utoronto.ca/~sengels/c...ability1up.pdf
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Great ambush so far
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It's actually not a different game. You are getting both doors by switching only one is opened now.Originally posted by PornopatDifferent game now? No more doors being taken out of the game?
Two doors give a 2/3 chance of winning the car so I would switch from one to two doors any day.
If one door is eliminated though this brings chances back to 1/2.
No need to switch then. I could switch or I could not switch depending on the tone and reputation of the person asking me...example" Are you suuuuuuuure you dont want to switch even though I think you are wrong and wont get anything" yeah..then I would probably switch.
This would not be based on mathematics but on psychology though.
FACT: If you didn't pick the right door then when you switch it will always be behind the door you switch to.
What are the odds that you picked the right door?aamos AT FFN dot com
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Was nice meeting you Andrew in LA. Wish we had more time to chat maybe next show!Comment
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I looked it up at wikipedia and I think I get it now on the hand of this example:Originally posted by Sagi_AFF
Card game experiment
Consider the problem as a card game where the goal is to end up with the ace of spades. Doing this may make the answer easier to understand and provides a way anyone can run a simple experiment. Take three cards including the ace of spades. Shuffle them and deal one to the "player" while you (the "host") keep two. Looking at the two, discard one so long as it is not the ace of spades. Should the player switch? To amplify the effect, do this again using the entire deck. Deal one card to the player while you keep 51 and (looking at the 51) discard 50 so long as none of them is the ace of spades. By switching, the player will nearly always win (51 out of 52 times).
For a more thorough walkthrough of this experiment, consider two players. Player A and Player B take the 13 diamond cards out of a standard deck of cards. The cards are shuffled, and then Player A receives one card face-down and is not permitted to see the card's face. Player B receives the other 12 cards, and he may look at them. Both players are trying to wind up with the ace of diamonds in their hand.
Question: Player A received one card. Player B received twelve cards. What are the chances that the ace is currently in Player B's hand? Answer: Twelve out of thirteen.
Player B has twelve cards and can examine the card faces. At least eleven of them are not the ace. Player B takes out eleven non-ace cards from his hand and lays them down face-up.
Question: Player B did not discard the ace (which he may not even have). No cards have moved from one hand to the other. Therefore, if the ace was in Player B's hand at the beginning, it is still there now. What are the chances that the ace is currently in Player B's hand? Answer: Since the chances depend only on whether or not he originally received the ace, the chances are still twelve out of thirteen.
Player A now has an option: he can stay with the one card he was originally dealt (which he hasn't looked at), or he can switch his hand with Player B's hand, which was originally dealt twelve of the thirteen cards.
Question: If the ace is currently in Player B's hand, Player A will win by switching hands. What are the chances that Player A will win by switching hands? Answer: Since the chances depend only on whether or not Player B originally got the ace, the chances are twelve out of thirteen.
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They are counting the empty doors collectively when you pick the door with the car, because the host will only open one door.Originally posted by DatingGold
The problem with your logic here is that you're counting the player picking the car twice....which is an error because he will only pick the car on the first try one time out of three, not two times out of four.
Basically it's like this....switching only wins if you picked incorrectly the first time. You will pick incorrectly 2/3 of the time, so switching means you will win 2/3 of the time.
If you read my earlier posts you'll see that I wasn't sold on this either, statistics or not, until I came across a logical explanation for why it's true.sig too bigComment
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Couple times a day but she doesn't talk back. Cleo is my dog whoOriginally posted by SleazyDream
loves to hang out in the affiliate department.
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I miss Cleo almost as much you, Andrew.tada!Comment
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Jack? Naw, I prefer gin and tonic.Originally posted by SleazyDreamCEO, Friend Finder
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Turns out that a woman a few miles from our office taught a gorillaOriginally posted by SleazyDream
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understands 2000 spoken words and has an IQ of around 80. I just think
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If we could just teach gorillas to use credit cards, I'm sure we'd create a site
for them.... monkeymoney... bananabucks...
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You are definetly one of the guys I have looked up too. Great Interview, and great read.Comment
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amazing read so far!This dog, is dog, a dog, good dog, way dog, to dog, keep dog, an dog, idiot dog, busy dog, for dog, 20 dog, seconds dog!
Now read without the word dog.Comment
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Oh, that's a rumor... well ok, there's a little truth to it.Originally posted by SleazyDream
I'm addicted to this little restaurant a block from the office that
makes amazing breakfast food all day -- but they had the cheapest
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You asked good questions. Don't get your panties in a wad. Are you that insecure even after pulling off a fantastic ambush?Originally posted by SleazyDreami guess you didn't like my questions....
"Your questions are great as usual" IS a compliment. You were complementing the questions.Originally posted by Mike33Your questions are great as usual. I just like to compliment them
TheProfessor's anwsers to all the questions have been excellent.
to you all.
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i'm sure glad you didn't conduct these white-board-microsoft type interviews with me then.. i would've failed miserably..Originally posted by TheProfessor
it was nice meeting you in vegas at the moviepost dinner andrew..Comment
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