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02-17-2006, 10:21 AM

I've heard his name thrown around a lot here and there, but I have to ask a sincere question: Who is Ron Levi?

I know about him owning cybererotica and xxxpasswords from the whole VMI indictment and all, but I was in mainstream at the time; so what did he do in this industry that made him some sort of "legend"?

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02-17-2006, 10:26 AM

He invented Internet Porn..... Enough said.....

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02-17-2006, 10:27 AM

hes fictional like lee hotti
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02-17-2006, 10:30 AM

Originally posted by sfera

hes fictional like lee hotti

I am Ron Levi and i invented porn on the INTERNET and AlienQ

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02-17-2006, 10:42 AM

Originally posted by KingAsher

He invented Internet Porn..... Enough said.....

Hardly. Is that what he told you?

Hey how is Nikki btw?

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02-17-2006, 10:47 AM

Originally posted by Far-L

Hardly. Is that what he told you?

Hey how is Nikki btw?

No that's what I've read, I wasn't around back in the day so I can't say 100%, but what the man has accomplished and obtained speaks for itself imo

And which Nikki you talkin bout man?

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02-17-2006, 10:48 AM

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02-17-2006, 10:49 AM

Originally posted by KingAsher

No that's what I've read, I wasn't around back in the day so I can't say 100%, but what the man has accomplished and obtained speaks for itself imo

Like...?

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02-17-2006, 10:50 AM

Originally posted by Manowar

http://www.lukeisback.com/stars/stars/ron_levi.htm

Finally, that's the kind of info I was looking for.

Thanks, Manowar

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02-17-2006, 10:50 AM

If you want read the good, bad and the ugly.

Read what a 3rd party, LukeFord, as written over the years.

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02-17-2006, 10:53 AM

Originally posted by EdgeXXX

I've heard his name thrown around a lot here and there, but I have to ask a sincere question: Who is Ron Levi?

I know about him owning cybererotica and xxxpasswords from the whole VMI indictment and all, but I was in mainstream at the time; so what did he do in this industry that made him some sort of "legend"?

Legend? I would say more like a myth. He is just a fantasy, man....

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02-17-2006, 10:54 AM

Originally posted by KingAsher

No that's what I've read, I wasn't around back in the day so I can't say 100%, but what the man has accomplished and obtained speaks for itself imo

And which Nikki you talkin bout man?

Sorry - confused you with someone else.

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02-17-2006, 10:54 AM

Smart man. Just look his 2001 interview at that link saying he keeps himself away from 900 numbers. A year later or so 900 numbers were gone and nobody was paid a big sum of money.
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02-17-2006, 10:54 AM

Originally posted by Lee Hotti

I am Ron Levi and i invented porn on the INTERNET and AlienQ

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02-17-2006, 10:54 AM

Originally posted by Far-L

He is just a fantasy, man....

You mean his reputation... or the person?

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02-17-2006, 11:11 AM

Originally posted by EdgeXXX

You mean his reputation... or the person?

I am biased because I am still in litigation with him and CE. I think the court record thus far makes it pretty clear what this so called legend and his supposedly honest company were up to - redirecting traffic to their competing sites using our brandname, over charging, and more.

I know the real Ron Levi. If I was not held by a confidentiality order that he is insisting on I would love to put up the video depos we have and let everyone decide for themselves what kind of operator he is. I will just have to wait for when our Xplor Media federal case proceeds finally after our New Destiny closed hearing arbitration ends. Then it will be a matter of public record. I am really looking forward to it.

I wonder if I can get a guest spot on mythbusters?

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02-17-2006, 11:33 AM

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02-17-2006, 12:25 PM

Originally posted by Far-L

I am biased because I am still in litigation with him and CE. I think the court record thus far makes it pretty clear what this so called legend and his supposedly honest company were up to - redirecting traffic to their competing sites using our brandname, over charging, and more.

I know the real Ron Levi. If I was not held by a confidentiality order that he is insisting on I would love to put up the video depos we have and let everyone decide for themselves what kind of operator he is. I will just have to wait for when our Xplor Media federal case proceeds finally after our New Destiny closed hearing arbitration ends. Then it will be a matter of public record. I am really looking forward to it.

I wonder if I can get a guest spot on mythbusters?

Ah, I get your drift

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02-17-2006, 12:31 PM

Ron is a true pioneer in our industry - especially in the realm of affiliate marketing, promo, etc.

He's a top not business person and a good jew boy, what else is there to say

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02-17-2006, 12:35 PM

Ron is a true pioneer in our industry - especially in the realm of affiliate marketing, promo, etc.

He's a top not business person and a good jew boy, what else is there to say

couldn't have said it better myself

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02-17-2006, 12:39 PM

Remember Fantasy Mans Spice Rack

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02-17-2006, 12:46 PM

He made his early money in the phone sex biz.

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02-17-2006, 12:49 PM

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02-17-2006, 12:50 PM

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He made his early money in the phone sex biz.

yep he did, and evolved good over to the net side of things Kevin

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02-17-2006, 01:11 PM

Btw, what is FM doing now? I haven't read any post of him here for a long time now ... I remember back in 1997 how I got to the porn biz, by joining first Cybererotica and all those programs, FastCash, High Rollers, ImpCash (the counter that pays), RiskyMail and TeenMail, later the CEVault with rewards, including the RadioShow points, man it was awesome in his days ...

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02-17-2006, 01:18 PM

Originally posted by EdgeXXX

Who is Ron Levi?

He is the GOD of porn, that is why we refer to him as "R_n" and not "Ron".
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02-17-2006, 01:25 PM

Originally posted by sextoyking

Ron is a true pioneer in our industry - especially in the realm of affiliate marketing, promo, etc.

He's a top not business person and a good jew boy, what else is there to say

Yep, he started it all, his programs helped me make tons of cash.
A true gem of a guy too.

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02-17-2006, 01:27 PM

Porn and Internet aside,

He also is part of the very well know Levi Jeans Company.

He invented the whole Stone Washed Jean Gimick back in the mid 80's.

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02-17-2006, 01:29 PM

Originally posted by Matrix

Yep, he started it all, his programs helped me make tons of cash.
A true gem of a guy too.

lol. Yeah if you are a big fan of liars... Do you want to tell us all about Acacia, you, Jason, and Ron or do you want me to do it?

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02-17-2006, 01:29 PM

Originally posted by Far-L

Hardly. Is that what he told you?

Hey how is Nikki btw?

I rememeber back in the day, Homegrown and CE were as tight as a virgins cookie..

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02-17-2006, 01:30 PM

Originally posted by Far-L

lol. Yeah if you are a big fan of liars... Do you want to tell us all about Acacia, you, Jason, and Ron or do you want me to do it?

I think he wants you to do it.

Why not??

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02-17-2006, 01:34 PM

Originally posted by Far-L

Sorry - confused you with someone else.

LOL..

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02-17-2006, 01:47 PM

this is becoming one wicked thread -

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02-17-2006, 02:06 PM

I think Ron Levi is Keyser Soze's brother,lol..

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02-17-2006, 02:19 PM

Originally posted by Far-L

lol. Yeah if you are a big fan of liars... Do you want to tell us all about Acacia, you, Jason, and Ron or do you want me to do it?

What? You may live down the street from me but you don't know me and I don't know you, you did this once before to me. It would seem you mistake everyones identity on this board, so get it straight. One more time for you, cause we all know you are slow,...when I came in to this biz exactly 3 years ago, I had no idea wtf gfy was or who was who, so I registered under my favorite movie title. I didn't know then but now I know there is a company called Matrix.

I stand by my previous statement, and agree with the other 99% of the people on this thread R_N is a tremendous businessman and person.

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02-17-2006, 02:29 PM

Whatever people say about Ron, and am not judging anyone,

The great man started in the early internet days and done good things for the business and made a lot of people lots of money, including my company.

sometimes a relationship ends in a bad way and people forget the money they made together. Like in a Marriage - a divorce is never pretty.

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02-17-2006, 02:43 PM

All I know is he sent me my first porn check back when I got in the business. 75 clicks equaled $50! Fuck yeah, I was hooked.

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02-17-2006, 02:47 PM

Originally posted by boneprone

Porn and Internet aside,

He also is part of the very well know Levi Jeans Company.

He invented the whole Stone Washed Jean Gimick back in the mid 80's.

Where'd you hear that one??

The Haas family of San Francisco owns Levi's.

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02-17-2006, 03:21 PM

Originally posted by Far-L

I am biased because I am still in litigation with him and CE. I think the court record thus far makes it pretty clear what this so called legend and his supposedly honest company were up to - redirecting traffic to their competing sites using our brandname, over charging, and more.

I know the real Ron Levi. If I was not held by a confidentiality order that he is insisting on I would love to put up the video depos we have and let everyone decide for themselves what kind of operator he is. I will just have to wait for when our Xplor Media federal case proceeds finally after our New Destiny closed hearing arbitration ends. Then it will be a matter of public record. I am really looking forward to it.

I wonder if I can get a guest spot on mythbusters?

Far-L

Every one of your claims including: copyright infringement, invalid assignment, trademark, shaving, and bad customer service were REJECTED BY THE JUDGE.

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Here are the judges findings quoted, now remember, THE JUDGE said this stuff?.

?The arbitrator does not credit Mr. Goldberg?s testimony that he was unaware Trade was the counter party to the Affiliate Agreement, and in any event, New is bound by it?

?The arbitrator also finds that New has thus far failed to prove by preponderance of evidence that Trade ?shaved? the revenues from exploitation of the site.?

?Voice/Trade specifically requested an independent audit before the arbitration, and has renewed this request in its post hearing papers.?

?In hindsight, it would have been preferable to compel an audit before the arbitration hearings, but Trade?s request was opposed by New?

Pending an independent Audit that Trade requested, it will futher prove that your shaving claims are completely bogus!

Ron as been nothing but top notch to myself and many others.

Because I to know the real Ron Levi, sounds like a case of sour grapes to me.

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02-17-2006, 03:26 PM

Originally posted by boneprone

I rememeber back in the day, Homegrown and CE were as tight as a virgins cookie..

Your right Boneprone...

Ron introduced the Homegrown boys to the industry at a tradeshow where he was promoting them , if not for Ron, these guys would have had a lot longer learning curve in the industry, not to mention CE's techinical people had to rebuilt their site before they launched because they didnt know how to stream, and don't forget about the millions of dollars these guys made along the way....

Sounds like biting the hands the feeds.

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02-17-2006, 03:29 PM

Originally posted by KRL

Where'd you hear that one??

The Haas family of San Francisco owns Levi's.

Yeah I was already wondering while reading, Robert Haas is the guy in charge there.

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02-17-2006, 03:30 PM

Originally posted by jonesy

this is becoming one wicked thread -

It would be wicked if all the other people that had the same issues we had stepped forward and stopped being scared of Ron. He is the type of person that uses the heavy cost of litigation to shut people up in unfavorable settlements. We stood up to it. There has been a heavy cost to our pocketbooks and our reputation but we would do it again.

Ron is not a god of the industry and CE has the flesh of a company and their blood is cash just like any other business.

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02-17-2006, 03:34 PM

Originally posted by Jason

Your right Boneprone...

Ron introduced the Homegrown boys to the industry at a tradeshow where he was promoting them , if not for Ron, these guys would have had a lot longer learning curve in the industry, not to mention CE's techinical people had to rebuilt their site before they launched because they didnt know how to stream, and don't forget about the millions of dollars these guys made along the way....

Sounds like biting the hands the feeds.

lol - you have no idea what you are talking about. We made more before we met him. We have been experts in streaming since windows media was netshow and if you knew how much we made you would laugh.

That is just one of the fallacies perpetuated by the faithful minions.... like the one about us being "greedy".

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02-17-2006, 03:37 PM

You say that he's the type of person that brings the heavy cost of litagation to shut people up, but the fact is that Homegrown started this litagation not Ron.. It seems like Ron is just ending it.

You've been doing nothing but commiting slander and liable against Ron since you filed this suit, and now that a judge has found no wrong doing, you continue your slander and liable.

Get your facts stright.

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02-17-2006, 03:40 PM

Originally posted by Jason

You say that he's the type of person that brings the heavy cost of litagation to shut people up, but the fact is that Homegrown started this litagation not Ron.. It seems like Ron is just ending it.

You've been doing nothing but commiting slander and liable against Ron since you filed this suit, and now that a judge has found no wrong doing, you continue your slander and liable.

Get your facts stright.

Wrong again. Ron initiated the litigation. We merely counter sued - typical response.

BTW - the judgement is not in yet... You just have zero clue so you best sit down. I have not slandered or liabled anyone. Facts are facts.

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02-17-2006, 03:42 PM

Originally posted by Jason

You say that he's the type of person that brings the heavy cost of litagation to shut people up, but the fact is that Homegrown started this litagation not Ron.. It seems like Ron is just ending it.

You've been doing nothing but commiting slander and liable against Ron since you filed this suit, and now that a judge has found no wrong doing, you continue your slander and liable.

Get your facts stright.

Want to tell me about Acacia?

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02-17-2006, 03:46 PM

Oh boy, this thread is getting heated. I didn't see this coming.

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Jason

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02-17-2006, 03:59 PM

Originally posted by Far-L

Wrong again. Ron initiated the litigation. We merely counter sued - typical response.

BTW - the judgement is not in yet... You just have zero clue so you best sit down. I have not slandered or liabled anyone. Facts are facts.

Your right, facts are facts..

If you go look at this link http://cecash.com/i/NDIGvVMI.pdf

You'll see that New Destiny is listed Claimant and Voice Media is listed as the Respondent..

Last time I checked, a Claimant is a person that brings the action and a Respondant is the one that responds to it.

There you go lying again to the public.

I'm starting to see a pattern here and I think everyone else does to.

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Last edited by Jason; 02-17-2006, 04:00 PM.

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02-17-2006, 04:00 PM

Of course it was bound to get heated.

Everyone wants a piece of Ron, wish they could do what he did, or believe they could have been somthing else without em.

Bottom line is, Ron has had the ability to pick the best things and people this industry has had to offer, he made many many people rich and some...

Just never got rich enough and decided to whine about it, steal from em or take what is not thiers or...

Bite the hand that feeds.

I am one of the guys Ron has helped in the past and probably one of a few that publicly comes forward to acknowledge a thanks to him.

I never crossed em, I did as I was told while working with em and I was rewarded. You goto trust the man if you get a chance to work with em, he didnt leave me hanging and he didnt leave me in a position where I would loose, nor did he leave me in a position that I thought I didnt gain enough through em.
From my own experience personally he is a man you goto trust when running with em if you have a doubt you are in trouble because its not him that will fuck you, you fuck yourself by not having the trust.

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02-17-2006, 04:09 PM

Rons one of only a few people I look up to in the entire industry.. and ive been around since 1996

My top 3.. in no particular order

Ron
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