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  • Raven
    Confirmed User
    • Jul 2001
    • 6874
    #1

    When You Sign Up For An Affiliate Program......

    Now, this is a serious question.

    Besides the usual ad tools, what kind of help do you feel is reasonable from the marketing/affiliate support staff?
    Raven

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    • StuartD
      Sofa King Band
      • Jul 2002
      • 29903
      #2
      exclusive to the affiliate content, exclusive to the affiliate designs, free hosting, to have the sponsor do all the submitting, to convert at 1:50 or less on all traffic to all galleries, to have the sponsor hand deliver my check on the 1st and 15th by 6am....
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        • XxXotic
          Confirmed User
          • Jun 2002
          • 8500
          #3
          Originally posted by NichePay - StuartD
          exclusive to the affiliate content, exclusive to the affiliate designs, free hosting, to have the sponsor do all the submitting, to convert at 1:50 or less on all traffic to all galleries, to have the sponsor hand deliver my check on the 1st and 15th by 6am....
          you forgot breakfast in bed
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            • Tom_PM
              Porn Meister
              • Feb 2005
              • 16443
              #4
              Guess I'm pretty easy because I've been sitting here thinking about it and can't come up with much.

              Besides the usual stuff all I can think of is responsiveness. If I find a bad link on a tour, or broken image on an FHG, or just have a question, then I'd like a reasonable response I guess.
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                • Raven
                  Confirmed User
                  • Jul 2001
                  • 6874
                  #5
                  Originally posted by NichePay - StuartD
                  exclusive to the affiliate content, exclusive to the affiliate designs, free hosting, to have the sponsor do all the submitting, to convert at 1:50 or less on all traffic to all galleries, to have the sponsor hand deliver my check on the 1st and 15th by 6am....
                  Would you like a blow job with your check?
                  Raven

                  ~RETIRED~

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                    • Raven
                      Confirmed User
                      • Jul 2001
                      • 6874
                      #6
                      Originally posted by PR_Tom
                      Guess I'm pretty easy because I've been sitting here thinking about it and can't come up with much.

                      Besides the usual stuff all I can think of is responsiveness. If I find a bad link on a tour, or broken image on an FHG, or just have a question, then I'd like a reasonable response I guess.
                      What about when you sign up, would you want a welcome letter, including assistance in marketing the program's sites?
                      Raven

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                        • Basic_man
                          Programming King Pin
                          • Oct 2003
                          • 27360
                          #7
                          Any kind of help. If they can't help you, just flush them !
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                            • Raven
                              Confirmed User
                              • Jul 2001
                              • 6874
                              #8
                              Originally posted by XxXotic
                              you forgot breakfast in bed
                              Would that be for everyone or just the high rollers?
                              Raven

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                                • Raven
                                  Confirmed User
                                  • Jul 2001
                                  • 6874
                                  #9
                                  Originally posted by Basic_man
                                  Any kind of help. If they can't help you, just flush them !
                                  What does that mean.....in real terms?
                                  Raven

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                                    • StuartD
                                      Sofa King Band
                                      • Jul 2002
                                      • 29903
                                      #10
                                      Originally posted by Raven
                                      Would you like a blow job with your check?
                                      That would be a refreshing change...

                                      the only time I ever get a check and screwed at the same time is when the program shaves.
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                                        • Tom_PM
                                          Porn Meister
                                          • Feb 2005
                                          • 16443
                                          #11
                                          Originally posted by Raven
                                          What about when you sign up, would you want a welcome letter, including assistance in marketing the program's sites?
                                          Well, I'm one of those weird people that looks over the whole affiliate program's webmaster tour. Sites, faq, contacts, terms of service (yeah I read them entirely) and all that.. So I'd assume that an email will come telling me they go my application, and then approval email.

                                          Other than that, I'm usually good to go.

                                          There was a recent thread on here about "dirty tricks" and one person posted that their program doesnt have any tricks. Well, I clicked their sig, went to their affiliate program. Contact page was BLANK. Nothing. And there was NO terms of service link. Guess what? I'd never join them no matter what else they did, lmao.

                                          So I suppose #2 expectation would be that the affiliate program pages actually contain something besides "we're better than everyone else cuz we say so".. That would be helpful
                                          43-922-863 Shut up and play your guitar.

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                                            • seeric
                                              ..........
                                              • Aug 2004
                                              • 41917
                                              #12
                                              Originally posted by NichePay - StuartD
                                              exclusive to the affiliate content, exclusive to the affiliate designs, free hosting, to have the sponsor do all the submitting, to convert at 1:50 or less on all traffic to all galleries, to have the sponsor hand deliver my check on the 1st and 15th by 6am....

                                              you forgot that the sponsor has to send traffic to the free galleries, on the free hosting, with the free content, and the 45 recip links to other programs.

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                                                • Raven
                                                  Confirmed User
                                                  • Jul 2001
                                                  • 6874
                                                  #13
                                                  Originally posted by NichePay - StuartD
                                                  That would be a refreshing change...

                                                  the only time I ever get a check and screwed at the same time is when the program shaves.
                                                  Demanding....what kind of razor do you use? I'll make a note.
                                                  Raven

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                                                    • XxXotic
                                                      Confirmed User
                                                      • Jun 2002
                                                      • 8500
                                                      #14
                                                      Originally posted by Raven
                                                      Would that be for everyone or just the high rollers?
                                                      the whales rarely ask for anything, it's the morons who push 14 uniques to sponsors over the span of 3 years that want everything done for them, so obviously not for the high rollers, breakfast should be for the noobs
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                                                        • Raven
                                                          Confirmed User
                                                          • Jul 2001
                                                          • 6874
                                                          #15
                                                          Originally posted by PR_Tom
                                                          Well, I'm one of those weird people that looks over the whole affiliate program's webmaster tour. Sites, faq, contacts, terms of service (yeah I read them entirely) and all that.. So I'd assume that an email will come telling me they go my application, and then approval email.

                                                          Other than that, I'm usually good to go.

                                                          There was a recent thread on here about "dirty tricks" and one person posted that their program doesnt have any tricks. Well, I clicked their sig, went to their affiliate program. Contact page was BLANK. Nothing. And there was NO terms of service link. Guess what? I'd never join them no matter what else they did, lmao.

                                                          So I suppose #2 expectation would be that the affiliate program pages actually contain something besides "we're better than everyone else cuz we say so".. That would be helpful
                                                          I'm one of those who also read TOS and make sure there is a contact on the contact page. I can see the need for that.
                                                          Raven

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                                                            • Raven
                                                              Confirmed User
                                                              • Jul 2001
                                                              • 6874
                                                              #16
                                                              Originally posted by A1R3K
                                                              you forgot that the sponsor has to send traffic to the free galleries, on the free hosting, with the free content, and the 45 recip links to other programs.
                                                              Well, that's a given.
                                                              Raven

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                                                                • bigdog
                                                                  Confirmed User
                                                                  • Jul 2001
                                                                  • 6964
                                                                  #17
                                                                  Sub link codes are a big thing for me. I like to be able to track sales coming from different traffic sources.

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                                                                    • Raven
                                                                      Confirmed User
                                                                      • Jul 2001
                                                                      • 6874
                                                                      #18
                                                                      Originally posted by XxXotic
                                                                      the whales rarely ask for anything, it's the morons who push 14 uniques to sponsors over the span of 3 years that want everything done for them, so obviously not for the high rollers, breakfast should be for the noobs
                                                                      You're right about that. The whales know what they want, usually.

                                                                      I'm really talking about those who have just signed up for a program.
                                                                      Raven

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                                                                        • Raven
                                                                          Confirmed User
                                                                          • Jul 2001
                                                                          • 6874
                                                                          #19
                                                                          Originally posted by bigdog
                                                                          Sub link codes are a big thing for me. I like to be able to track sales coming from different traffic sources.
                                                                          So, you'd want to know that you can create your own campaign and track each one?
                                                                          Raven

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                                                                            • XxXotic
                                                                              Confirmed User
                                                                              • Jun 2002
                                                                              • 8500
                                                                              #20
                                                                              Originally posted by Raven
                                                                              You're right about that. The whales know what they want, usually.

                                                                              I'm really talking about those who have just signed up for a program.
                                                                              it still applies to those people, noobs join programs every day
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                                                                                • Pandemos
                                                                                  Confirmed User
                                                                                  • Jun 2005
                                                                                  • 956
                                                                                  #21
                                                                                  A basic one for me is program owners who answer emails from affiliates. About of third of them don't seem to bother.
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                                                                                    • Raven
                                                                                      Confirmed User
                                                                                      • Jul 2001
                                                                                      • 6874
                                                                                      #22
                                                                                      Originally posted by Pandemos
                                                                                      A basic one for me is program owners who answer emails from affiliates. About of third of them don't seem to bother.
                                                                                      Why do you suppose that happens?

                                                                                      I know there are often problems with emails, although I'm not offering that as an excuse. But, you must admit, with all the spam filters in place, that emails sometimes simply don't get there.
                                                                                      Raven

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                                                                                        • Dollarmansteve
                                                                                          Confirmed User
                                                                                          • May 2005
                                                                                          • 2849
                                                                                          #23
                                                                                          I actually dont want to have to sign up for the program. In addition to doing everything for me, I want the program to randomly select me to be an affiliate and sign-up for the program for me and then send me checks while I sleep.
                                                                                          I died.

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                                                                                            • Raven
                                                                                              Confirmed User
                                                                                              • Jul 2001
                                                                                              • 6874
                                                                                              #24
                                                                                              Originally posted by Dollarmansteve
                                                                                              I actually dont want to have to sign up for the program. In addition to doing everything for me, I want the program to randomly select me to be an affiliate and sign-up for the program for me and then send me checks while I sleep.
                                                                                              Tell you what. I'll sign you up for our program. Let's discuss traffic trades. Or will you randomly select me as one of your trades while I arrange a blow job and breakfast in bed for NichePay-StuartD.
                                                                                              Raven

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                                                                                                • Drake
                                                                                                  Hello world!
                                                                                                  • Mar 2003
                                                                                                  • 12508
                                                                                                  #25
                                                                                                  Originally posted by Raven
                                                                                                  Would you like a blow job with your check?
                                                                                                  I'll sign up under your referral code to the sponsor that has this in their TOS.

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                                                                                                    • Dollarmansteve
                                                                                                      Confirmed User
                                                                                                      • May 2005
                                                                                                      • 2849
                                                                                                      #26
                                                                                                      Originally posted by Raven
                                                                                                      Tell you what. I'll sign you up for our program. Let's discuss traffic trades. Or will you randomly select me as one of your trades while I arrange a blow job and breakfast in bed for NichePay-StuartD.
                                                                                                      hehe.. sorry to make fun of your thread, I know you had an honest question. I did a little business with joe before but it didnt work out.. but id like to get something going again. hit me up on ICQ 276275294
                                                                                                      I died.

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                                                                                                        • Raven
                                                                                                          Confirmed User
                                                                                                          • Jul 2001
                                                                                                          • 6874
                                                                                                          #27
                                                                                                          Originally posted by Mike33
                                                                                                          I'll sign up under your referral code to the sponsor that has this in their TOS.
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                                                                                                          Raven

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                                                                                                            • Raven
                                                                                                              Confirmed User
                                                                                                              • Jul 2001
                                                                                                              • 6874
                                                                                                              #28
                                                                                                              Originally posted by Dollarmansteve
                                                                                                              hehe.. sorry to make fun of your thread, I know you had an honest question. I did a little business with joe before but it didnt work out.. but id like to get something going again. hit me up on ICQ 276275294
                                                                                                              I'm hitting you up now, Steve.....and, what you wrote was funny. I can always use a good laugh!
                                                                                                              Raven

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                                                                                                                • fuzebox
                                                                                                                  making it rain
                                                                                                                  • Oct 2003
                                                                                                                  • 22363
                                                                                                                  #29
                                                                                                                  The only times I contact the staff is to ask for members area access for content or when payment hasn't arrived.

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                                                                                                                    • Raven
                                                                                                                      Confirmed User
                                                                                                                      • Jul 2001
                                                                                                                      • 6874
                                                                                                                      #30
                                                                                                                      Originally posted by fuzebox
                                                                                                                      The only times I contact the staff is to ask for members area access for content or when payment hasn't arrived.
                                                                                                                      So, are you saying that when you sign up for the program initially, you have no needs, other than the ad tools and stats tracking, with which to promote the program?
                                                                                                                      Raven

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                                                                                                                        • Raven
                                                                                                                          Confirmed User
                                                                                                                          • Jul 2001
                                                                                                                          • 6874
                                                                                                                          #31
                                                                                                                          Let me ask this a different way.

                                                                                                                          When you sign up for an affiliate program, do you resent or not want the 'welcome' email?
                                                                                                                          Raven

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                                                                                                                            • jrap
                                                                                                                              Confirmed User
                                                                                                                              • Feb 2005
                                                                                                                              • 448
                                                                                                                              #32
                                                                                                                              I'd like as much statistics as possible..which tours are converting the best, time of day conversions, country conversions, etc

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                                                                                                                                • SteveLightspeed
                                                                                                                                  Confirmed User
                                                                                                                                  • Jul 2001
                                                                                                                                  • 7940
                                                                                                                                  #33
                                                                                                                                  Raven, please contact me via icq!

                                                                                                                                  Steve Lightspeed
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                                                                                                                                    • gogonow
                                                                                                                                      Registered User
                                                                                                                                      • Jul 2005
                                                                                                                                      • 64
                                                                                                                                      #34
                                                                                                                                      Originally posted by bigdog
                                                                                                                                      Sub link codes are a big thing for me. I like to be able to track sales coming from different traffic sources.
                                                                                                                                      I vote for that too! This also helps measuring the efficiency of different teasers, and tracking some statistics on your own.

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                                                                                                                                        • XxXotic
                                                                                                                                          Confirmed User
                                                                                                                                          • Jun 2002
                                                                                                                                          • 8500
                                                                                                                                          #35
                                                                                                                                          Originally posted by Raven
                                                                                                                                          Tell you what. I'll sign you up for our program. Let's discuss traffic trades. Or will you randomly select me as one of your trades while I arrange a blow job and breakfast in bed for NichePay-StuartD.
                                                                                                                                          breakfast in bed was my idea!
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                                                                                                                                            • Murderous
                                                                                                                                              Confirmed User
                                                                                                                                              • Oct 2003
                                                                                                                                              • 3938
                                                                                                                                              #36
                                                                                                                                              Originally posted by Raven
                                                                                                                                              Let me ask this a different way.

                                                                                                                                              When you sign up for an affiliate program, do you resent or not want the 'welcome' email?
                                                                                                                                              I do not resent it. Some are nice and others are obviously bullshit.

                                                                                                                                              What I would resent about welcome emails from the aff manager or rep would be to answer my email or ICQ that you put in your welcome when stating that I could depend on you if I needed something.

                                                                                                                                              I had a program send me an email yesterday saying she was my new aff manager, and she wanted to know why I wasn't pushing them as hard as I once did. Well... when I signed up to the program, they promised to design me a cobrand page so I took the bait, sent a url and asked that they make me a page with the same look feel, and niches for their products.

                                                                                                                                              I recieve nothing in 2 months, I send another asking if they are just hung up on other things, no response. So I emailed the new girl a reply to her welcome message and told her that if she could only do what was promised to me after signing up, then I will start sending traffic again.

                                                                                                                                              Bottom line is, if you say you will do something to get my interest, and then back out... you just played me. I am no fool. Fuck You.

                                                                                                                                              These folks said they would make me a page and never do, then ask why there is no traffic to their fucking page.

                                                                                                                                              Unbeleivable.

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                                                                                                                                                • Murderous
                                                                                                                                                  Confirmed User
                                                                                                                                                  • Oct 2003
                                                                                                                                                  • 3938
                                                                                                                                                  #37
                                                                                                                                                  If you send a welcome message... it should just say "welcome to our program" cause if you fill it with contact info where noone is ever there to be contacted... or fill it with bullshit lies and TONS and I mean fucking TONS of sales pitches and promises then back out... move on.

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                                                                                                                                                    • circlekhabib
                                                                                                                                                      Confirmed User
                                                                                                                                                      • Feb 2005
                                                                                                                                                      • 490
                                                                                                                                                      #38
                                                                                                                                                      "what kind of help do you feel is reasonable from the marketing/affiliate support staff?"
                                                                                                                                                      none, there's nothing they can do for me I can't
                                                                                                                                                      do for myself and rather take care of what I need myself.
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                                                                                                                                                        • circlekhabib
                                                                                                                                                          Confirmed User
                                                                                                                                                          • Feb 2005
                                                                                                                                                          • 490
                                                                                                                                                          #39
                                                                                                                                                          "If you send a welcome message... it should just say "welcome to our program" cause if you fill it with contact info where noone is ever there to be contacted... or fill it with bullshit lies and TONS and I mean fucking TONS of sales pitches and promises then back out... move on."
                                                                                                                                                          agreed coupled with new programs with errors on tours,
                                                                                                                                                          same thing.
                                                                                                                                                          buh bye
                                                                                                                                                          forever
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                                                                                                                                                            • Raven
                                                                                                                                                              Confirmed User
                                                                                                                                                              • Jul 2001
                                                                                                                                                              • 6874
                                                                                                                                                              #40
                                                                                                                                                              Interesting answers, all of them.

                                                                                                                                                              I've received welcome emails and have tried, also, to contact my affiliate manager, to no avail. That seems to be one of the most common complaints.

                                                                                                                                                              Sometimes, though, when an affiliate requests something, the answer is no. Would that lose the affiliate?

                                                                                                                                                              I understand that hard sales pitches are a bitch.....and, I also understand that an affiliate manager pushing certain sites for reasons other than the fact that they convert like crazy, is also a bitch.

                                                                                                                                                              XxXotic - you're right. My bad. Breakfast in bed is for you. Send me traffic.
                                                                                                                                                              Raven

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