"Seduced in Cyberspace" - how teenagers are lured into the world of online porn

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  • Big Red Machine
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    • Jan 2005
    • 9586

    #51
    Originally posted by PixeLs
    Th fact that these kids are not consulting their parents on most of the things that they do is what makes them vulnerable victims to this crimes.
    Your telling me you told your parents everything

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    • Spunky
      I need a beer
      • Jun 2002
      • 133978

      #52
      Disturbing to say the least

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      • MikeSmoke
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        • Nov 2002
        • 3241

        #53
        Damn, if ONLY the government's weapons against child porn like 2257 had been strengthened and utilized years ago, none of this would have happened....

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        • chodadog
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          • Apr 2002
          • 9736

          #54
          Originally posted by luv$
          Am I the only one who feels that at the age of 16 no one was doing things to me that I wasn't OK with? Maybe if he was 8 or something this would make sense. But 16?
          It started when he was 13. It only ended when he was 16.
          26 + 6 = 1

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          • chodadog
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            • Apr 2002
            • 9736

            #55
            And I think anyone suggesting that a naive 13 year old is to blame for being exploited by sophisticated and manipulative adults is an asshole. Shame on you.
            26 + 6 = 1

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            • JasonB
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              • Nov 2001
              • 1183

              #56
              ya, i call bullshit too. by 16 i knew wtf was going on

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              • Axeman
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                • Feb 2004
                • 5201

                #57
                very disturbing.

                No way should someone under 18 have a webcam. At least not when under parental supervision. ie to talk to grandma!
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                • xlogger
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                  • Jul 2004
                  • 9507

                  #58
                  hahaha, this kid must be smoking crack.

                  I knew wtf was going on @ 13-16. No one lures you into jacking the fuck off on camera.

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                  • je_rome
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                    • Jul 2005
                    • 6846

                    #59
                    a very alarming update, not only to the kid and the online porn community but to the world wide viewers, as well.
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                    • titmowse
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                      • Jan 2001
                      • 5320

                      #60
                      And then there's this by Susie Bright:

                      ...As far as I'm concerned, the Times is another enabler and exploiter in the "sordid" story. At this point, they're the stinkiest part of it, since they're the only ones not copping either a plea or any responsibility! They've scared ignorant parents out of their wits about their kids using computers, and exploited their victim to sell papers. They should be ashamed of themselves.

                      If you read the whole saga, you'll find out some second-tier "details" that I find more telling than than the bandwidth connection. Justin's parents are terrifying examples of physical abuse, pimping, and neglect. The father beat his kid senseless into the hospital, and then disappeared for years. The mom "never knew" her son to have any friends, and had "no idea" why he went on long trips with strangers or hid in his room with his computer.

                      When Justin eventually found his father, and confessed that he was an online prostitute, his dad decided to get in on the profits! None of this family picture is analyzed by our brave reporter. The reason the Times believes James went down the wrong path is because he had a fast DSL connection and one thing just led to another. Sure, his parents were awful, but he got great grades in school until that computer made him turn bad!

                      We've seen these stories before, but this example is the worst. They've created fear and titillation instead of explaining how young people are put at risk for abuse and exploitation cycles that can't be stopped by simply pulling a plug.

                      There are thousands of kids who suffer incest, beating, and profound neglect. 99% of them aren't on a web cam. No one gives a damn - the Times hasn't called in the calvary...
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                      • Steen2
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                        • Feb 2004
                        • 7662

                        #61
                        The show was manipulated into a situation where adult entertainment or "pornographers" were to blame, second to the pedophiles. Not good for the weak public image.

                        I did find the episode very interesting/shocking, although I had read the artile months ago.
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                        • brand0n
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                          • Nov 2002
                          • 26983

                          #62
                          fucked up....
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                          • jscott
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                            • Feb 2001
                            • 25434

                            #63
                            young and stupid
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                            • Major (Tom)
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                              • Nov 2003
                              • 32492

                              #64
                              hes not a victim... hes a fucking fag.

                              bottom line.

                              duke

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                              • joshuawk
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                                • Jun 2003
                                • 1092

                                #65
                                lol Duke you're fuckin hilarious

                                What I Did see is oprah making money off this 'fear' thing to sell her own show. Just cuz people are huge and on TV, don't think theyre literally
                                not trying to make 'sales' and and ads just like everybody.

                                Oprah is selling the story like anybody sells anything for profit. Do a web.archive.org on mexicofriends.com, this kids site.
                                http://web.archive.org/web/*/http://mexicofriends.com

                                Youll see his own statements about his processing being shut down and how he is mad and he needs money. Now he's supposedly turning down a book deal.

                                Yea for a few months until he decides to take a new book deal.
                                It sucks to be involved this industry and be the fall guys for everything wrong in the ENTIRE world.

                                Personally I have not much compassion for this particular kid, because I've been on the web since I was 14 in chatrooms, was never molested, never have seen child porn to this day.

                                This kid was running his own paysite for profit and knew exactly what he was doing. Now he's trying to make money off publicity.

                                Don't any of you sometimes wish they would shutdown the industry so we could all just heave peace of mind and stop being blamed for the worlds woes?

                                Oprah can't seem to decide if her story is about INTERNET PORN, or CHILD PORN. She blends the two together like they're exactly the same thing.

                                That is fucking ridiculous. I would literally beat the shit out of a pedophile, yet this show is calling INTERNET PORN and PEDOPHILIA the same subject.

                                fuck oprah.
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                                • reed_4
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                                  • Jul 2005
                                  • 9640

                                  #66
                                  this news should be a wake-up call to all. Parents should always be on guard when their kid's are online.

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                                  • Mutt
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                                    • Sep 2002
                                    • 34431

                                    #67
                                    this kid is a victim but the NY Times and that *unt Oprah have the perpetrators wrong - parents first and he himself second. as quite a few people have said in this thread - at 16 most average young adults know how to say 'no' to anything. the webcam and the online perverts aren't the real story here - it's just another fucked up dysfunctional family and the media whoring a sensational story with a sexy sordid edge - TV movie of the week material. 16 year old kids from good homes rarely get taken advantage of.

                                    more and more i think people shouldn't be allowed to marry and/or procreate until after 30 - and only after proving they are financially and psychologically ready for the responsibilty.
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                                    • V_RocKs
                                      Damn Right I Kiss Ass!
                                      • Nov 2003
                                      • 32448

                                      #68
                                      Originally posted by chase
                                      Wow.

                                      I am so anal about my kid online, because I know what is out there. He is only online on my computer in my bedroom, while I sit on my bed two feet away watching tv and periodically peering over his shoulder. He hates it, and I don't care.

                                      Yes, it is wrong, and yes, these people should be punished, but a 16 yo is old enough to know better. Problem is they are still too young to care. I was a mother 8 days before I turned 17, so you can't tell me that a kid at the same age I was breastfeeding and changing diapers doesn't know that was he was doing was wrong, and what they were doing to him was wrong. But it didn't matter enough for him to stop because of all the reasons Maura mentioned.

                                      That said, a few days ago my mom and I were talking about my brother, and he was molested by a family friend when he was 15 or 16. My mom said she kind of thought that Mark went with it because the guy bought him stuff, and I said it doesn't matter. It's no more right than the 26yo who fucked me while I was passed out drunk at 16, which of course she was absolutely enraged at. Abusers often ply their victims with gifts, to keep them quiet and keep them coming back. It's common even with young children, imagine how much greater the need to control with something other than violence becomes when the victim is an adolescent.

                                      As someone in the adult industry, I just hate when the spotlight on these fuckers spills over onto the legitimate adult industry. It's like bad news on ticket scalpers spilling onto Ticketmaster.

                                      As a parent, I am just appalled by his father's actions, by the manipulation by the abusers, by the exposure of the victim to things he shouldn't have seen, etc. And it just supports my own decision to be annoyingly tight on the reigns with my own children; from my internet rules, to the fact that I can count on one hand the number of people who have babysat my kids.
                                      My kids ask for their own computer every xmas and bday.... answer is always... FUCK NO!

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                                      • V_RocKs
                                        Damn Right I Kiss Ass!
                                        • Nov 2003
                                        • 32448

                                        #69
                                        This is where you head is up your ass... Grandpa

                                        Originally posted by Mutt
                                        16 year old kids from good homes rarely get taken advantage of.

                                        And then you save yourself by making some sense....
                                        more and more i think people shouldn't be allowed to marry and/or procreate until after 30 - and only after proving they are financially and psychologically ready for the responsibilty.

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                                        • Fred Quimby
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                                          • Jul 2004
                                          • 5430

                                          #70
                                          So the truth has come out, Oprah supports child pornographers.

                                          And Oprah makes money off of child pornographers.


                                          PS Oprah How was this kid "lured" into opening a merchant account you fat cow?

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                                          • chase
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                                            • Jul 2004
                                            • 6019

                                            #71
                                            Originally posted by V_RocKs
                                            My kids ask for their own computer every xmas and bday.... answer is always... FUCK NO!

                                            My son has a computer, but the modem has been removed, there are no phone lines in his room, the only cable modem is in my room, and I'm ridiculously stuck up his ass, lol. He's limited to playing games and typing up homework on his own pc, lol.
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                                            • xenigo
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                                              • Jan 2001
                                              • 8067

                                              #72
                                              Originally posted by chadglni
                                              Most women I talk to online are fine, maybe you really are psycho?
                                              Or maybe you're just delusional.

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                                              • PussyTeenies
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                                                • Feb 2005
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                                                #73
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                                                • sfera
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                                                  • Aug 2005
                                                  • 8597

                                                  #74
                                                  any cliff notes on this one, read about half i gtg

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                                                  • MikeVega
                                                    **Porntrepreneur**
                                                    • Jul 2004
                                                    • 12788

                                                    #75
                                                    I watched the show and i think what happen to him sucks but by the time he was 16 he was doing shows with girls down in Mexico and half the people watching him probably had no idea that he was under age. The biggest problem i had with the show was that they really made it should like this happens on all webcam sites. It was most likely a yahoo group but the would never say that ... they just said these online pornography webcam sites ... I just got the feeling that they lumped all porn into it.

                                                    the other thing is the way the reporter found him was surfing online looking for fraud and found kiddie porn .. and started to chat with the kid to gain his trust and meet him ... sounds fishy to me .. then he said " people say things on these sites that I wouldn't say to a dead prostitute" I found that to be a strange thing to say .. why would his first thought be that dead prostitutes are ok to degrade ... the entire show just bothered me


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                                                    • Drake
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                                                      • Mar 2003
                                                      • 12508

                                                      #76
                                                      I saw this episode of Oprah yesterday. All around disturbing.

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                                                      • Vitasoy
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                                                        • Oct 2003
                                                        • 58202

                                                        #77
                                                        Damn.. that is a pretty sad story. Very disturbing too.


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                                                        • LiveDose
                                                          Show Yer Tits!
                                                          • Feb 2002
                                                          • 25792

                                                          #78
                                                          Originally posted by FelixFlow
                                                          from today's oprah show:

                                                          Seduced in Cyberspace



                                                          Despite death threats, nineteen-year-old Justin is appearing on The Oprah Winfrey Show to reveal the secret world of online child webcam pornography. Justin, who also turned down a lucrative book deal to appear on the show, hopes his decision will help children around the world.

                                                          Six years ago, Justin was a typical "boy next door." Between homework and band practice, he found time to run a legitimate small business creating websites. A self-described "computer nerd," Justin was excited to get an inexpensive webcam. He planned to use the simple tool?a video camera that connects to the Internet?to meet friends and chat with girls. Justin joined a popular website and posted his profile. Instant messages immediately started popping up on his computer.

                                                          Eventually, one of Justin's new online friends made a request that would change his life.



                                                          By hooking up his webcam, Justin unintentionally became a fresh face in a dark world where men prey on vulnerable teenagers and children. He had no idea that his new friends were adults?an online community of pedophiles discussing strategy, sharing advice and carefully planning his seduction.

                                                          When one man told Justin he'd pay him $50 to take off his shirt, Justin considered it a harmless proposal from a friend. "I take my shirt off to go to the pool," he thought, and logged on to an online payment website to accept payment.

                                                          Soon the men's requests got bolder.



                                                          Justin says the predators gradually stepped up their requests, each a little more explicit than the last. It wasn't long before Justin was asked to pull down his boxer shorts, "just a little." Later on the pedophiles offered him more money to take them off. Next, they told him to masturbate. "I figured it was harmless," Justin says. "I was doing what most 13-year-old boys do in their room, and I was getting paid for it."

                                                          In addition to money, Justin says the men offered him gifts to show their appreciation, teaching him how to set up an online "wish list" where he could register for cool computer gear. He believed the whole process was perfectly safe because his home address was not revealed to buyers.

                                                          Justin says his mother and stepfather had no idea he was receiving gifts from strangers?he intercepted most deliveries before they had a chance to see them. When his mom did come across a package, he would tell her he bought it himself with the profits from his web development business.

                                                          Justin's mom had no idea her son was slowly being transformed into an Internet porn star.




                                                          Justin kept his webcam activities a secret from his parents, but his mother, Karen, says she noticed a change in his personality. She remembers he was moody and spent his time at home alone in his bedroom. Karen thought her son was having trouble making the transition to high school. She didn't suspect Justin was at risk on the Internet because she had purchased child protection software for his computer?a measure Justin proved ineffective. "For most teens in this day and age, computers are what they know," he says. "[The software] is actually kind of a joke."

                                                          If anybody should have known what was going on in Justin's life, Karen says it was her?she works with children who have been molested. "I've studied for years and I know the signs," she says. "That's why it's so mind boggling that this happened to Justin right here in my own home."

                                                          Justin's secret life moves from on-line to in person.




                                                          By age 16, Justin's young face had become extremely popular among Internet pedophiles. Fans began asking to meet him in person. One businessman offered Justin thousands of dollars to fly to Las Vegas for the weekend. Justin agreed, telling his parents he was attending a computer convention with a friend. When he arrived in Las Vegas, he was repeatedly sexually molested by the man who had lured him there.

                                                          When Justin returned home, the man continued to exploit him. He paid for a secret apartment for Justin just minutes from his parents' home, allowing him to spend more time on his webcam.

                                                          Justin's secret life was about to be exposed.




                                                          Justin's webcam activity was uncovered when a classmate found the pornographic footage online, made copies and passed them out to classmates. Embarrassed and scared that his mother would find out about his secret life, Justin asked his mother permission to visit his father in Mexico.

                                                          He arrived in Mexico with plenty of cash from his webcam business. When his father asked him where he had gotten so much money, Justin told him the truth.

                                                          His dad's reaction is shocking.

                                                          I saw that show on Oprah and it was pathetic the way she and the reporter kept trying to tie this kid to online porn.

                                                          16 years old? That little dork should be out playing sports, meeting real living girls his age and keeping himself busy. If it wasn't the webcam he would have found trouble somewhere else. He was attention starved. Sad but come on now.
                                                          Last edited by LiveDose; 02-16-2006, 08:17 AM.

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                                                          • LiveDose
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                                                            • Feb 2002
                                                            • 25792

                                                            #79
                                                            Originally posted by MikeVega
                                                            I watched the show and i think what happen to him sucks but by the time he was 16 he was doing shows with girls down in Mexico and half the people watching him probably had no idea that he was under age. The biggest problem i had with the show was that they really made it should like this happens on all webcam sites. It was most likely a yahoo group but the would never say that ... they just said these online pornography webcam sites ... I just got the feeling that they lumped all porn into it.

                                                            the other thing is the way the reporter found him was surfing online looking for fraud and found kiddie porn .. and started to chat with the kid to gain his trust and meet him ... sounds fishy to me .. then he said " people say things on these sites that I wouldn't say to a dead prostitute" I found that to be a strange thing to say .. why would his first thought be that dead prostitutes are ok to degrade ... the entire show just bothered me

                                                            Yeah seriously that reporter was creeping me out. Here comes the book 'A Million Little Webcams'...

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                                                            • sherie
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                                                              • Feb 2002
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                                                              #80
                                                              Originally posted by cool1g
                                                              i remember reading the article on that back in December....they make it sound like this is a big problem - sure there gotta be others doing the same thing but its not like its a problem. this kid got greedy for the $ and got in way over his head.
                                                              Predators online IS a huge problem. Have you not paid any attention to the media? Have you not seen any of the Dateline 'Online Predator' shows? Have you not read any articles provided by ASACP? You can't possibly be that naive. Unless you are pertaining to something else and I missed the point I will apologize.

                                                              And yes, he was a kid...the key word is "kid" he was not old enough to make informed decisions nor was he equipped to deal with the consequences. For the love of gawd, his father facilitated the crime. I agree with Maura on this one. He was at a very vulnerable stage in his life...and sure most kids at 16 know what is up, however, there are shitloads of them out there that are totally clueless.
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