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Originally Posted by GreyWolf
Agree - Darfur is a total disgrace and there is nothing any country can say which would justify the turning of heads while genicide took place.
In reality all countries concerned are part of the UN and, not once, but many, many times the Secretary General requested assistance in dealing with Darfur. What did he get? Nothing - not a bean. Dafur was the one issue which the last Secretary General regards as his personal failure and replusive that no nation actually stood up to be counted.
We are not talking about this or that country - all these countries are UN members and part of the international community - yet they all elected to do nothing. No country is blameless.
Na.. the international community does not rely on the US to lead by example - they manage their own affairs and don't need any other country to do this. Some have done exceptionally well in managing their foreign affairs and have eg contributed well in both finance and practical on-the-ground assistance to third world or distressed areas. Others have failed miserably - each to their own.
Iraq is a totally different scenario Crockett - it's just another US govt war and has nothing to do with the welfare or interests of the Iraq people - and just another thing which will prob come back to haunt the US in future.
If you think Daruf is bad - ya ain't seen nothing yet in terms of what have happened to others over the last 25 ish years. My own country sold people out for slimeball gain and imprisoned innocent people who used to live on Deigo Garcia for centuries - the object being to sell the island to the US to permit an aircraft base. Meanwhile, the real owners of that island are no longer there and living in permanent squalor - thanks to the selfishness of supposed "civilized" nations.
Bottom line, "civilized world" can behave in the most disgusting ways possible - these nations may include the US, but the extent of predatory and unjust behavior is spread far wider over many countries.
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I disagree with the whole UN deal. We all know the UN is about worthless hence the reason I said some other country should stand up. The UN does nothing but sit around and think up some strong wording but then fail top follow through on it. If they do actually get to the point of putting troops on the ground. The troops end up being nothing but target practice as they don't have authority to shoot back.
Say what you will about the US. I can't stand Bush but one thing is certian the US doesn't sit around waiting for the UN to decide to do nothing. We always have and always will act on our own when it's needed.
I disagree with you when you say the rest of the world doesn't look to the US. When the USSR was a threat who did Europe look to to help protect them? If China decided to go after Japan you don't think the world would be looking to the US to fight them off? Same with North Korea if they decided to invade South Korea. Who would be the first in fighting them off?
The list goes on and on, when something needs done people don't look to the UN they look to the USA. It's because we have a history of acting and doing something. I'm not trying to go on a pro US rant, but just giving example of what needs to happen.
Granted we can't do everything. In this case it's very clear the UN lacks a backbone big suprise there. So what needs to happen is a country needs to stand up and say they will do something about it. Yet none do, they all sit by and use the excuse of the UN is working on it. Which is nothing but a BS excuse.