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01-28-2006, 07:32 PM

His gallery: http://www.sweet-sin.com/e/btr2/v61.html

The content is exclusive the Danni.com. (I've already notified John D)
You can see the uncropped images with Danni.com watermark intact here: http://www.babesglamour.com/DANNI/danni146nk_king.html

This guy makes a habit of using stolen content. I blacklisted him from my TGP's ages ago. Perhaps it's time to kill his affiliate account?
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01-28-2006, 09:13 PM

Nice content. Thanks!
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01-28-2006, 09:26 PM

Nice 1st post dude.
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01-28-2006, 09:32 PM

i dont understand why someone would do that for a personals site
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01-28-2006, 09:34 PM

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01-28-2006, 09:44 PM

Originally posted by Qbert

His gallery: http://www.sweet-sin.com/e/btr2/v61.html

The content is exclusive the Danni.com. (I've already notified John D)
You can see the uncropped images with Danni.com watermark intact here: http://www.babesglamour.com/DANNI/danni146nk_king.html

This guy makes a habit of using stolen content. I blacklisted him from my TGP's ages ago. Perhaps it's time to kill his affiliate account?

I am so SURE that Nakita Kash is all over AFF on her own, LOL!
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01-28-2006, 09:46 PM

Originally posted by tony404

i dont understand why someone would do that for a personals site

I totally agree with you

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01-28-2006, 09:53 PM

Did you check out the homepage http://www.sweet-sin.com/? He's using a danni.com fpa with all of the links pointing to Karups PC.

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01-28-2006, 11:10 PM

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01-28-2006, 11:37 PM

<shrugs>
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01-29-2006, 12:40 AM

Originally posted by Jarmusch

Nice 1st post dude.

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01-29-2006, 12:52 AM

nice first post indeed
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01-29-2006, 01:25 AM

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01-29-2006, 01:29 AM

Bump!!!!
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01-29-2006, 03:52 AM

Originally posted by phonesex

Snitches should die.

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01-29-2006, 06:38 AM

Same guy, more stolen content.

http://www.porn-service.us/3/xrl8/v61.html
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01-29-2006, 06:42 AM

Originally posted by tony404

i dont understand why someone would do that for a personals site

They do it all the time, I really wish AFF would do something to curb this

We send them Notice of copyright infringement at least once a week and sometimes two and three times a week it seems like !

and we are not the only ones, I see some of the others too, as we use the same firm to notify them with as a few other big photogs in the industry do.

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01-29-2006, 06:44 AM

Originally posted by phonesex

Snitches should die.

That is very imature and totally irresponsible to say.

I mean contrary to popular belief there are many good businessmen and women here . This place is not just for you cheating/scamming kids to find stuff to steal

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01-29-2006, 06:53 AM

Originally posted by Heywood Jablome

Did you check out the homepage http://www.sweet-sin.com/? He's using a danni.com fpa with all of the links pointing to Karups PC.

What a fucking tool.

jjslimm, john someone from Danni get this idiot.

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01-29-2006, 07:41 AM

Originally posted by Qbert

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01-29-2006, 10:24 AM

maybe they buy the content

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01-29-2006, 10:26 AM

Originally posted by Ace_luffy

maybe they buy the content
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01-29-2006, 10:28 AM

People who have to resort to stealing content are generally stupid. There is enough webmaster promotional content already available such that stealing watermarked content is just not smart.

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01-29-2006, 10:51 AM

Did you try emailing anyone at Friendfinder?

If not then I would suggest emailing Sagi (at) friendfinderinc.com

Im sure he will take care of it first thing on Monday morning.
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01-29-2006, 12:23 PM

Originally posted by phonesex

Snitches should die.

People who steal content should die

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01-29-2006, 12:41 PM

Originally posted by SmokeyTheBear

People who steal content should die

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01-29-2006, 12:52 PM

I have forwarded this to our in house counsel , he will take the appropriate action. We take content theft seriously and rerminate people often for such abuses.
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01-29-2006, 02:06 PM

I sent the affiliate an e-mail giving him 2 days to take it and any other stolen content on his sites down or send my copies of the licenses. If he fails to comply I will ban his account at that time.

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01-29-2006, 02:27 PM

Originally posted by Sagi_AFF

I sent the affiliate an e-mail giving him 2 days to take it and any other stolen content on his sites down or send my copies of the licenses. If he fails to comply I will ban his account at that time.

He'd better get started soon, he has content from over 1100 galleries to remove.
Just the AFF ones listed by Google
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01-29-2006, 02:30 PM

http://www.alexa.com/data/details/tr....sweet-sin.com

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01-29-2006, 02:30 PM

same guy

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01-29-2006, 02:32 PM

Its nice to see AFF working with him to get the content down, rather than just terminating him outright. Everybody does stupid things, and this is one of them. I've never thought of companies that make knee-jerk reactions to mistakes. Besides, if he's terminated immediately, he'll probably just move to another sponsor, and that doesn't help get the content down.

Working with people is the best way to resolve problems in this industry, and I respect AFF for taking a realistic approach to this.

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01-29-2006, 03:32 PM

another slap for all eastern european webmasters. why can they just work with out cheating.

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01-29-2006, 04:50 PM

Originally posted by kernelpanic

Its nice to see AFF working with him to get the content down, rather than just terminating him outright. Everybody does stupid things, and this is one of them. I've never thought of companies that make knee-jerk reactions to mistakes. Besides, if he's terminated immediately, he'll probably just move to another sponsor, and that doesn't help get the content down.

Working with people is the best way to resolve problems in this industry, and I respect AFF for taking a realistic approach to this.

I also like to give accused affiliates a chance to produce a license. If I just outright ban accounts everytime I get an accusation I would end up screwing over legitimate affiliates. If this particular affiliate doesn't remove the content or give me a copy of his license then he will have his account banned on Tuesday morning which is the end of a payperiod so he will not get paid for more than just 2 days worth of traffic.

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01-29-2006, 04:54 PM

Originally posted by Sagi_AFF

I also like to give accused affiliates a chance to produce a license. If I just outright ban accounts everytime I get an accusation I would end up screwing over legitimate affiliates. If this particular affiliate doesn't remove the content or give me a copy of his license then he will have his account banned on Tuesday morning which is the end of a payperiod so he will not get paid for more than just 2 days worth of traffic.

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01-31-2006, 04:47 AM

Originally posted by Sagi_AFF

I sent the affiliate an e-mail giving him 2 days to take it and any other stolen content on his sites down or send my copies of the licenses. If he fails to comply I will ban his account at that time.

I see this morning that he's pulled the content from that ONE gallery only. I assume he hasn't produced licenses for all the rest?
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01-31-2006, 05:53 PM

Originally posted by Qbert

I see this morning that he's pulled the content from that ONE gallery only. I assume he hasn't produced licenses for all the rest?

He is removing them or going to use them to promote the sponsor that he got them from.

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02-01-2006, 10:24 AM

Originally posted by Sagi_AFF

He is removing them or going to use them to promote the sponsor that he got them from.

That's LAME, real fuckin' LAME. I guess we now know for sure what side the bread is buttered on.
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02-01-2006, 10:07 PM

Originally posted by Qbert

That's LAME, real fuckin' LAME. I guess we now know for sure what side the bread is buttered on.

HIM:
On the majority of pages it is submitted free sponsor's content, same was and on the page submitted below. But these sponsors are very badly converted also I use their content for promotion and other, much more more convertible sponsors. In particular you.

ME:
I see. You cannot use a sponsor's content to promote another sponsor. Usually the provider of the content gives it for use to promote them. If you want you can make galleries that promote them but also include our banners on the page. But you must still make them the main focus for using the content.

HIM:
Many thanks to you for the help as it is possible to use a content of the sponsor and to advertise still other sponsor. I shall alter the pages in view of your recommendations.

Hopefully this guy will learn the right way to make money online and will not ever steal content again. For now his account is banned until he makes changes and shows them to me.

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02-01-2006, 10:30 PM

This guy has been doing galleries like that for almost 3 years according to my database, on more domains than just that. You can't tell me he doesn't know it's wrong, he's not a newbie.

The thing is.. It's Danni.com... For years, Danni had it in their TOS/Faq that you couldn't use their content.. yet all their affiliates did and they turned the other eye because it made them a lot of cash.. In fact, several of us asked for content honestly so we could compete and were refused. I even bitched to them once (that person is no longer the affiliate manager) and was told that their top affiliate had made almost $1M with them. Yeah.. while breaking the rules in the process... So I frankly couldn't give a shit.. They refused to hand out content to honest webmasters when asked yet let WMs rip them off and promote them with the content for years while turning a blind eye.
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02-02-2006, 12:20 AM

Originally posted by Sagi_AFF

Hopefully this guy will learn the right way to make money online and will not ever steal content again. For now his account is banned until he makes changes and shows them to me.

Excuse the language, but that's bull shit. You can see from your own affiliate records how long this guy has been doing this. He no newbie, he knows better and is just playing you for a sap.

If you were serious about dealing with content theft there is enough proof in my first post to nail this guy to the wall. It's quite obvious you'd rather turn a blind eye and continue to make money from the illegal actions of guys like this.

My TGP's will no longer be accepting galleries promoting AFF.
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02-02-2006, 12:29 AM

Originally posted by Tempest

The thing is.. It's Danni.com... For years, Danni had it in their TOS/Faq that you couldn't use their content.. yet all their affiliates did and they turned the other eye because it made them a lot of cash..

That may be true, but that's all water under the bridge and Danni.com is just the tip of the iceberg here. This guy does the same with content from dozens of sponsors, promoting AFF, pills, etc. all of which have one thing in common, they have really poor or non-existent promo content.
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02-02-2006, 12:36 AM

Originally posted by Sagi_AFF

If you want you can make galleries that promote them but also include our banners on the page. But you must still make them the main focus for using the content.

Uhhh... it's not up to you to give him permission to do that. If I ran a program with exclusive content and allowed my webmasters to use it, I sure as hell wouldn't let them promote other programs with it, no matter what the "main focus for using the content" was. And I have no doubt that many program owners would agree.
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02-02-2006, 03:41 AM

Originally posted by Sagi_AFF

For now his account is banned until he makes changes and shows them to me.

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02-02-2006, 04:20 AM

I know that AFF banned him. But I am wondering, if he is using your content to promote some one elses site, why you wouldn't send the webmaster an email, if that didn't work or you didnt want to spend time talking to him

Write the owner of the site with a copyright infringement and send a cease and desist letter.

Or email his hosting company. Look for the hosting company's TOS which usually has strict rules about copyright infringement and quote those rules that apply them to your situation.

I mean if it was me I would be doing things like that over contacting AFF about it on a board and getting him banned. They can't pull the guys content off his server. Or have him shut down from his server.

Maybe I missed it and he did or he is and just didnt say it I don't know.

No offence at all, don't want it to sound like I am trying to be a dick. Just thought I would say my two cents. I know it's not your content but a friends, but still. I would want AFF to ban him also, but I would do other things before contacting AFF on or off the board if it bothered me that much.

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02-02-2006, 05:05 AM

Sometimes it requires shining some daylight on a topic to get action.

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02-02-2006, 02:18 PM

Originally posted by Qbert

That may be true, but that's all water under the bridge and Danni.com is just the tip of the iceberg here. This guy does the same with content from dozens of sponsors, promoting AFF, pills, etc. all of which have one thing in common, they have really poor or non-existent promo content.

Yeah.. So he probably used content from other sponsors to promote Dani at one point as well since they had non-existent content. What goes around comes around.

It's not right, but the truth is, it happens ALL the time and sometimes the program that gets screwed for awhile, benifits later. Frankly I think that if the sponsors really gave a shit about it, they would be actively going after that sort of thing. The fact that they don't should tell you a lot. The only time they deal with it is if it's pointed out to them or if they stumble accross it.
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02-02-2006, 02:20 PM

Originally posted by KrisKross

Uhhh... it's not up to you to give him permission to do that. If I ran a program with exclusive content and allowed my webmasters to use it, I sure as hell wouldn't let them promote other programs with it, no matter what the "main focus for using the content" was. And I have no doubt that many program owners would agree.

That's bullshit... It's standard practice to promote one program/site primarily and then add a banner or link at the bottom or something different.. For YEARS free hosts were the norm with all their banners and links for other products and not one sponsor I've ever seen complained about it.
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02-09-2006, 07:58 PM

The cheater is back in business with a new AFF affiliate account.

Check the gallery from my original post to start this thread.

The referral links have a new [/b]active[/b] AFF affilaite ID g243075

Hey Sagi, you know anything about this?
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