I was speaking a muslim friend... he first said "They need to die, they mocked the prophet". After a simple smack in the head he changed his tone "Well they are going a bit crazy. It's just a cartoon."
They are too stupid to see that by their primitive reactions they are validating the cartoons that offend them.
One independent newspaper prints 12 cartoons of muhammed of which a few of them, but not all, are negative. What does that have to do with the other 5 million people living in Denmark? What does that have to do with Arla, Lego etc? Nothing!
The problem is you can't reason with Muslims. If you could, they wouldn't be Muslim.
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They are too stupid to see that by their primitive reactions they are validating the cartoons that offend them.
No kidding.
If they had of just kept quiet about it there would be no media focus on the cartoons whatsoever. Now because they all freaked out like idiots the whole world knows about how some cartoonist poked fun at their precious prophet and the uber-childish way they have reacted to it.
They need more education over there in Muslimville. With more education comes higher incomes, and with higher incomes comes toys for the home such as big screen TV's, DVD players, home theatre systems, computers, laptops, console gaming etc. With all that comes a reason to STAY THE FUCK HOME instead of running amok in the streets like they do.
Simplistic, yes, but also quite true. When is the last time any of us set fire to a church? Now answer this.... when is the last time any of us were online or watched a DVD or played Halo? I rest my case. :D
Just watching CNN here, and there's no news in the world except for fuckhead muslims jabbering and jumping around like idiots in the streets, burning the flag of Denmark and acting like complete retards.
Now they're saying that muslim extremists in something like a dozen countries are calling for a boycott of LEGO, a well-known classic toy from a company that is based out of Denmark. In fact they are crying like babies for their fellow muslim extremist assholes to boycott several different companies that are based in Denmark......
all because a newspaper printed a cartoon of their beloved religious figurehead.
To any muslim extremists that might be reading this..... do you know how many times Jesus and/or God has been parodied or made fun of in cartoons? Do you? You don't see Christians or people from the west burning down churches and buildings because of it.
Something is very wrong in this world when millions upon millions of people lose their sense of humor and can't just laugh off a stupid cartoon once in a while. Any excuse to run wild in the streets and protest, turn cars over, bust windows, destroy private property owned by people who have done nothing to you to deserve it, all because your diapers are in a bunch over a fucking CARTOON.
"My God, you muslim extemists need to GET OVER IT, it was only a cartoon"
AHAHAHHAHAHA - No shit. I've had this exact same thought everytime I've pulled up Drudge for the last week and had to see a new headline story about this bullshit.
"it's just a cartoon"... "... it was only a cartoon".. We all understand these types of cartoons. we recognise them as being satire, poking fun at a situation etc. etc. etc. but perhaps in that region, cartoons are meant to incite passions, to degrade and humiliate the characters, not as something "fun" or "humurous"... It all comes down to understanding and accepting different points of views and cultures. Until that happens we'll keep on killing each other.
How many of you walk into a prominently black area and start calling people the N word? Because of the history of what's happened in the US with black people, the rest world is forced to accept that we can't use that word. How many people get worked up when some other culture talk negatively about the holocust? It's the same type of thing.
"it's just a cartoon"... "... it was only a cartoon".. We all understand these types of cartoons. we recognise them as being satire,
That's because they ARE satire.
Originally posted by Tempest
but perhaps in that region, cartoons are meant to incite passions, to degrade and humiliate the characters, not as something "fun" or "humurous"... It all comes down to understanding and accepting different points of views and cultures. Until that happens we'll keep on killing each other.
Their lack of education isn't my fault, nor is it Denmark's fault. Their ignorance about the world and it's different forms of humor is their problem. Making excuses for it isn't helping the matter, it is lending their mindless mob reaction a credence it doesn't deserve.
Originally posted by Tempest
How many of you walk into a prominently black area and start calling people the N word? Because of the history of what's happened in the US with black people, the rest world is forced to accept that we can't use that word. How many people get worked up when some other culture talk negatively about the holocust? It's the same type of thing.
Using the N word toward blacks or denying the holocaust happened aren't even close to being the same thing as this. For one thing, in looking back over the past 35 years of newscasts I've seen of the activities of extremist Muslims in the Middle East I would say that poking a little fun at their penchance for terrorism, suicide bombings, and raging out of control in their streets over every perceived slight is absolutely the least of what they deserve. Can you not understand that or do I need to ask you politely to get your head out of your ass?
Back to your two less than fine examples, I'll try to put a more relevant spin on them...
Do you have any idea how many cartoons exist that make fun of blacks? Of slavery?
The answer is tons.
As for your other example, yes, people do tend to get offended when some idiot spouts off about denying the holocaust happened or of minimizing it's importance. However, what you don't see are people getting so offended that they pull the kinds of irrational acts that these Muslim fuckheads are pulling.
Their lack of education isn't my fault, nor is it Denmark's fault. Their ignorance about the world and it's different forms of humor is their problem. Making excuses for it isn't helping the matter, it is lending their mindless mob reaction a credence it doesn't deserve.
Using the N word toward blacks or denying the holocaust happened aren't even close to being the same thing as this. For one thing, in looking back over the past 35 years of newscasts I've seen of the activities of extremist Muslims in the Middle East I would say that poking a little fun at their penchance for terrorism, suicide bombings, and raging out of control in their streets over every perceived slight is absolutely the least of what they deserve. Can you not understand that or do I need to ask you politely to get your head out of your ass?
Back to your two less than fine examples, I'll try to put a more relevant spin on them...
Do you have any idea how many cartoons exist that make fun of blacks? Of slavery?
The answer is tons.
As for your other example, yes, people do tend to get offended when some idiot spouts off about denying the holocaust happened or of minimizing it's importance. However, what you don't see are people getting so offended that they pull the kinds of irrational acts that these Muslim fuckheads are pulling.
Sorry dude, there is no excuse for it. None.
And this is exactly why they will continue to kill westerners and we will kill them... You're part of the problem not the solution.
What I'm amazed at is that the guy apparently did it as a "protest" that he didn't like that the muslim faith (that find such images sacriligious and he KNEW this) "dictating" his freedoms.. Ok.. well why don't you and him get together and head into compton or something and start calling a bunch of black gang members the N word? After all, their feelings when it comes to that word are impeding on your (and the idiot that started this) freedom to use the word. You can't express yourself freely because of their feelings about that word. If you decide to play with fire (which given the recent history with muslims is pretty fucking clear) then you deserve to get burned. The bottom line is that he could have made fun of them etc. WITHOUT using the image of Mohamad.
The beauty of all this.. Is that it's playing into EXACTLY what the fanatics want and people like you are allowing them to win and to incite more muslim hatred of western society (Do a search and some reading on exactly what Bin Laden and that group really want). And yet you and others like you don't see it or choose not to. We don't want them to dicate how we live our lives.. They don't want us to dictate how they live theirs. We both want the other side to respect our beliefs, freedoms and cultures. Either both sides respect each other and learn to live together or we kill each other. History has taught us that there is no middle ground once "zeal" (fanatasism) gets involved.
Usually you're a pretty responable guy but you're way out to lunch on this one. I especially like the part where you tell me to take my head out of my ass.. You're better than that man.
But whatever.. I don't know why I even posted in here in the first place (I know better than try and have intelligent discussions on GFY) except I like to play the peace maker sometimes.. I won't post in here again so go ahead and call me an idiot etc.
PS. Look back to the "race" riots in CA in "recent' history (Rodney King for example). Muslims are not the only ones getting offended and pulling "irrational acts".
I believe the problem is people like THEM, not "people like me"
I believe that people like YOU who make excuses for their shitty behaviour are part of the problem as well. A BIG part.
Did you even watch the news this past week? It sure sounds like you missed what those people were doing in the way of protest. Maybe you should watch some footage and then come back and comment? Just a suggestion.
And no one started a race riot in CA over a fucking cartoon. It is over unrelated examples like that that I suggested you might want to pull your head out of your ass.
Look, I would love nothing more than to have more peace in the world. That's why I'm on here saying that those people over there need to grow up and chill the hell out. Taking a firm line with them is what they understand my frend. Don't believe me? Go over there and try your understanding negotiator of peace and harmony tactics with them and see how far you get. Fact is they will likely kill you.
If they wanted peace they would have dealt with this so-called insult in a diplomatic way.
"it's just a cartoon"... "... it was only a cartoon".. We all understand these types of cartoons. we recognise them as being satire, poking fun at a situation etc. etc. etc. but perhaps in that region, cartoons are meant to incite passions, to degrade and humiliate the characters, not as something "fun" or "humurous"... It all comes down to understanding and accepting different points of views and cultures. Until that happens we'll keep on killing each other.
How many of you walk into a prominently black area and start calling people the N word? Because of the history of what's happened in the US with black people, the rest world is forced to accept that we can't use that word. How many people get worked up when some other culture talk negatively about the holocust? It's the same type of thing.
well, not quite.
the rest of the world does not need to accomodate the cultural mindset of a bunch of screwballs who believe it's appropriate to kill other people because they are "infidels".
we didn't bring sept 11 to these fucks, and civilized society is beginning to lose patience with this shit very fast.
it is stuff like this that mobilizes western civilization to keep these fucks isolated from the rest of the world.
you will see severe restrictions on travel, immigration restrictions, economic sanctions, withdrawal of foreign aid---taxpayers all over the world will begin to pull the plugs on these fucks and it won't be a day too soon.
tolerance of it, multi-culturalism? attempts at "understanding"?
Why is it that many of us can take insult after insult and laugh it off or make a clever joke back at the one doing the insulting and leave it at that, but these people actually feel so mortally insulted by a cartoon, a parody, a JOKE, that they would love nothing more than to mob their way to denmark and irradicate everyone?
I think it is because for so many Arabs..religion IS their life. They are literally born into it..quickly indoctrinated, find it as their ONLY hope (for many at least) in a fairly miserable life, and actually do take it as an afront when something THEY (not us..remember, we always want to think it is about US) consider sacred is blasphemed.
I understand that so many in the Western world don't get their violent protests..I understand that based on OUR religious or moral values, it's no big thing. All I am saying is that for SOME at least..not all those that are protesting, but for a great many, it is a very real slap in the face for them.
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