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  • Doctor Dre
    Too lazy to set a custom title
    • Jan 2001
    • 51692

    #201
    Originally posted by kristin
    Business accounts are funded via wire ... bank takes their fee, but I don't think ePassporte takes a fee when you load the money on there. I could be wrong...we just have our transaction fee when we pay affiliates and such.
    Ok so the only way they really make money is the $2 atm fee ?
    Originally posted by rayadp05
    I rebooted, deleted temp files, history, cookies and everything...still cannot view the news clip. All I see is that fucking gay ass music video from "Rick Roll". Anyone else have a different link to the news clip?

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    • thaifan99
      Confirmed User
      • Jul 2003
      • 3029

      #202
      Originally posted by RogerV
      LOL I dont need to read it I know exactly whats going on

      I am in contact with both companies on a weekly basis.. I get first hand information not off a gossip board.

      I wouldnt worry about either company nothing is going to change only get better

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      • FUCKuPAYme
        Confirmed User
        • Jan 2003
        • 1023

        #203
        Originally posted by justsexxx
        Lol, why post this with another nick? Also, I did not pick on you in every thread. And I'm not jealous as well. Why would I be jealous on you? Maybe you can fill me in

        Thanks

        Andre
        Because I'm in the office on the community computer not on my personal one and who cares what I post under you know its me.. I dont hide behind a computer..

        yes you always have some smart as remark.. do you really want me to pull all the threads where you say some bullshit thing like you think you know it all blah blah.. get a life

        ~R

        you are jealous if your were not, you wouldnt have to post smart as remarks
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        • rowan
          Too lazy to set a custom title
          • Mar 2002
          • 17393

          #204
          Originally posted by Doctor Dre
          How does it work for the wires then ? What are the fees ?
          Presumably the 5% fee covers the processing and fraud risk for CC's, wires are secured funds once they're in the destination account.

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          • kristin
            GOO!
            • Sep 2002
            • 9768

            #205
            Originally posted by Doctor Dre
            Ok so the only way they really make money is the $2 atm fee ?
            It's not really an ATM fee, when I pay affialiates I pay $2 per affiiate I pay. Or when I pay content like, It's Your Porn via EPassporte, it's $2 to send money.

            So they make money on business accounts two ways ... $2 transaction fee plus all the interest it's earning sitting in CURACAO!!!
            Last edited by kristin; 02-06-2006, 09:31 AM.
            Vacares rules.

            "Usually only fat guys have the kind of knowledge and ability that Kristin has."

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            • justsexxx
              Too lazy to set a custom title
              • Aug 2001
              • 13723

              #206
              Originally posted by FUCKuPAYme
              Because I'm in the office on the community computer not on my personal one and who cares what I post under you know its me.. I dont hide behind a computer..

              yes you always have some smart as remark.. do you really want me to pull all the threads where you say some bullshit thing like you think you know it all blah blah.. get a life

              ~R

              you are jealous if your were not, you wouldnt have to post smart as remarks
              Okay, was just asking why...And yeah I maybe made 2 posts based on 'your' reply. Why do you care?

              And okay,I am jealous on you.
              Questions?

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              • JFK
                FUBAR the ORIGINATOR
                • Jan 2002
                • 67369

                #207
                Originally posted by Matt Collins
                Very interesting read...thanks Shap for working this thread!

                A lot of this information is very important to know. Especially the discussion about the way chargebacks are calculated (and how this has changed over the last couple of years).

                Am I correct in the notion that by monitoring chargebacks on the url or individual company level should help protect the processors from one bad customer killing the whole company (and thus all the compliant customers)?

                What a great business thread...on GFY no less!!

                Matt
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                • TDF
                  Triple OG nigga on GFY
                  • Mar 2002
                  • 27296

                  #208
                  Originally posted by FUCKuPAYme
                  You are an idot.. and yes I've been in the biz since 96 so I do know most everything and most in the biz who have been around are my friends.. I'm not someone who just posts on the boards.
                  Jealousy is a very nasty trait...
                  All you do is try to take jabs at me in every thread spend more time working and maybe you will know more as well

                  Dont be a hater

                  ~R

                  hello roger..forgot to log out of your nick
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                  • justsexxx
                    Too lazy to set a custom title
                    • Aug 2001
                    • 13723

                    #209
                    And now back to topic...
                    Last edited by justsexxx; 02-06-2006, 10:00 AM.
                    Questions?

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                    • JFK
                      FUBAR the ORIGINATOR
                      • Jan 2002
                      • 67369

                      #210
                      Originally posted by TDF
                      hello roger..forgot to log out of your nick
                      His reply from above
                      "Because I'm in the office on the community computer not on my personal one and who cares what I post under you know its me.. I dont hide behind a computer.."

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                      • s9ann0
                        Confirmed User
                        • Sep 2001
                        • 4873

                        #211
                        ok I got the real scope! Paycom found out that epassporte were doing affiliate payouts for a gay teen boys site that used some content of one of their call centre twinks taken without permission while he was drunk at at a show

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                        • Rand
                          Industry Vet
                          • Jan 2002
                          • 2663

                          #212
                          A little clarification for those that may be slightly confused by some of the posts here.

                          I'd like to be perfectly clear on a few points. The first is that our recent notice to Epoch clients regarding the cessation of payments via ePassporte does not affect any sponsors' ability to pay their affiliates via ePassporte. The only real change is that a client's proceeds (or portion thereof) will no longer be loaded onto an ePassporte business account. Epoch's decision should have no affect on ePassporte disbursements to affiliates.

                          Secondly, Epoch and ePassporte are now and have always been two completely separate entities. Neither is dependant on the other for their survival or success and the separation of the two companies does not spell disaster for either one. In fact, the separation should not even be a blip on anyone's radar screen. Epoch does not need or use external transactions or gift-with-purchase sales to maintain chargeback ratios. Epoch's overall ratios for card association compliance are well within the required thresholds and those numbers are not tied to or reliant upon ePassporte or any other entity. More importantly, program operators in cooperation with Epoch have worked together to maintain ratios and still have the highest conversion rates in the industry. In fact, this the the primary job of any IPSP and the very formula for Epoch's success.

                          Third, Epoch has seen some big changes in the last year. We are all working toward a common goal of being the best we can be. Two companies that worked so closely together have parted ways and are no longer contracted to work together. Epoch's full attention is focused on its core competencies, as well as improving aspects of our services such as reporting and stats. Re-assignment of account representatives is taking place now to ensure that every single Epoch client has a "go to" person on their side watching out for their business and facilitating operations and production on their behalf. If you need to contact someone at Epoch or Paycom EU, there is someone to address your questions or concerns every single minute of every single day. Tech Support and Billing Support are staffed 24/7/365.

                          Write to [email protected]
                          Corporate Office: +1.310.827.5880 or +1.888.627.3888.

                          And lastly, I am pleased to announce that the Paycom sales team has been restructured and added many new members to further benefit our clients.

                          Mike Costanza, VP of Business Development, with over 10 years experience in Sales/Marketing will now run the department. Amanda Gross, former head of the sales department, is still a key member of the sales team in the capacity of a Senior Account Executive. New members Frank Gannon, Nora M'hamedi, and Angie Calderon join Amanda and veteran Account Executive Anthony Wheatle. Frank, a longstanding Paycom employee, brings years of experience and client relationships to the team. Nora comes from the merchant banking industry and is fluent in 5 languages while Angie is fluent in Spanish. Each member brings a personal touch to the team.

                          Every account has been assigned to a personal sales representative and will be contacted shortly. In addition to a "primary" sales representative, each account will have a "backup" sales representative. In summary, new members are:

                          Mike Costanza [email protected] ICQ: 236860417
                          Frank Gannon [email protected] ICQ: 283793400
                          Nora M'hamedi [email protected] ICQ: 348805214
                          Angie Calderon [email protected] ICQ: 312076286

                          Sales representatives are contacting clients now. If you have questions concerning your representative prior to being contacted, please email Mike at the address above.

                          Look for other improvements in the sales/marketing area in '06.

                          We appreciate your business.
                          -- Rand


                          Payment Industry - Communications - Quality Assurance

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                          • Shap
                            Confirmed User
                            • May 2001
                            • 8313

                            #213
                            Originally posted by Rand
                            A little clarification for those that may be slightly confused by some of the posts here.

                            I'd like to be perfectly clear on a few points. The first is that our recent notice to Epoch clients regarding the cessation of payments via ePassporte does not affect any sponsors' ability to pay their affiliates via ePassporte. The only real change is that a client's proceeds (or portion thereof) will no longer be loaded onto an ePassporte business account. Epoch's decision should have no affect on ePassporte disbursements to affiliates.

                            Secondly, Epoch and ePassporte are now and have always been two completely separate entities. Neither is dependant on the other for their survival or success and the separation of the two companies does not spell disaster for either one. In fact, the separation should not even be a blip on anyone's radar screen. Epoch does not need or use external transactions or gift-with-purchase sales to maintain chargeback ratios. Epoch's overall ratios for card association compliance are well within the required thresholds and those numbers are not tied to or reliant upon ePassporte or any other entity. More importantly, program operators in cooperation with Epoch have worked together to maintain ratios and still have the highest conversion rates in the industry. In fact, this the the primary job of any IPSP and the very formula for Epoch's success.

                            Third, Epoch has seen some big changes in the last year. We are all working toward a common goal of being the best we can be. Two companies that worked so closely together have parted ways and are no longer contracted to work together. Epoch's full attention is focused on its core competencies, as well as improving aspects of our services such as reporting and stats. Re-assignment of account representatives is taking place now to ensure that every single Epoch client has a "go to" person on their side watching out for their business and facilitating operations and production on their behalf. If you need to contact someone at Epoch or Paycom EU, there is someone to address your questions or concerns every single minute of every single day. Tech Support and Billing Support are staffed 24/7/365.

                            Write to [email protected]
                            Corporate Office: +1.310.827.5880 or +1.888.627.3888.

                            And lastly, I am pleased to announce that the Paycom sales team has been restructured and added many new members to further benefit our clients.

                            Mike Costanza, VP of Business Development, with over 10 years experience in Sales/Marketing will now run the department. Amanda Gross, former head of the sales department, is still a key member of the sales team in the capacity of a Senior Account Executive. New members Frank Gannon, Nora M'hamedi, and Angie Calderon join Amanda and veteran Account Executive Anthony Wheatle. Frank, a longstanding Paycom employee, brings years of experience and client relationships to the team. Nora comes from the merchant banking industry and is fluent in 5 languages while Angie is fluent in Spanish. Each member brings a personal touch to the team.

                            Every account has been assigned to a personal sales representative and will be contacted shortly. In addition to a "primary" sales representative, each account will have a "backup" sales representative. In summary, new members are:

                            Mike Costanza [email protected] ICQ: 236860417
                            Frank Gannon [email protected] ICQ: 283793400
                            Nora M'hamedi [email protected] ICQ: 348805214
                            Angie Calderon [email protected] ICQ: 312076286

                            Sales representatives are contacting clients now. If you have questions concerning your representative prior to being contacted, please email Mike at the address above.

                            Look for other improvements in the sales/marketing area in '06.

                            We appreciate your business.
                            HI Rand. Thanks for the update and the post. I'm quite sure I'm not the only one that was pleased to see and read this. Thanks

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                            • Validus
                              Confirmed User
                              • Jul 2001
                              • 4012

                              #214
                              I think it is great to see Rand (Paycom) take the time to post here... really cool.

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                              • mattyboy
                                Confirmed User
                                • Mar 2003
                                • 1070

                                #215
                                A welcomed post Rand.

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                                • AkiraSS
                                  Wemaxa.com
                                  • Jan 2003
                                  • 2989

                                  #216
                                  This leaves up Chris to comment,
                                  I really like epass (much less hassle than going to the bank, waiting 3-4 days for a wire to arrive, then 5 days to be able to pick up your money or else get charged 1% fee)

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                                  • Phoenix
                                    BACON BACON BACON
                                    • Nov 2002
                                    • 35475

                                    #217
                                    i love my epassporte
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                                    • CaptainHowdy
                                      Too lazy to set a custom title
                                      • Dec 2004
                                      • 94125

                                      #218
                                      I love Epassporte and I LOVE RAND!!!!

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                                      • Halcyon
                                        Spread The Pink!
                                        • Dec 2002
                                        • 8609

                                        #219
                                        Originally posted by CaptainHowdy
                                        I love Epassporte and I LOVE RAND!!!!
                                        Now THAT is a policy I can get behind.

                                        I want to put my money in "RAND'S BANK OF THE WORLD"
                                        HAL on TEDx:

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                                        • SleazyDream
                                          I'm here for SPORT
                                          • Jul 2001
                                          • 41470

                                          #220
                                          as i understand it, these epoch/paycom and epassport companies have something to do with credit card processing and banking?
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                                          • J.R.
                                            WantBoobs.com
                                            • Feb 2002
                                            • 3479

                                            #221
                                            Rand and Epoch have always looked out for their clients, I am sure
                                            there is something signifigant behind this.

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                                            • milambur
                                              Mainstream since 2010
                                              • Jan 2003
                                              • 1327

                                              #222
                                              First I must say this is one of the best threads I have read on gfy on a very long time. Greenlabs posts are very interesting.

                                              Originally posted by Rand
                                              Epoch does not need or use external transactions or gift-with-purchase sales to maintain chargeback ratios.
                                              As I see the layout of the scheme there is no need to involve you at all, since it can be handled between the company that has CB issues and epassporte. So you will not have any CB issues, since your customers that are aware their biz model gives a high CB ratio will dilute their transactions with GCs enough to stay below 1%.

                                              Originally posted by Rand
                                              Secondly, Epoch and ePassporte are now and have always been two completely separate entities. Neither is dependant on the other for their survival or success and the separation of the two companies does not spell disaster for either one. In fact, the separation should not even be a blip on anyone's radar screen.
                                              The "separation" looks like a real smart move since it gives epassorte a way to easier co-operate with other processors and it separate you futher from the potential visa crackdown on GCs.

                                              What would be interesting to know is if there is an agreement to process the GCs at lower rate and what the costs are per transaction all fees included.

                                              If this really is how it works I can even see how the affiliate payouts play a large role. So I doubt there will be any problems on that side.
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                                              • justsexxx
                                                Too lazy to set a custom title
                                                • Aug 2001
                                                • 13723

                                                #223
                                                I'm kinda suprised not more ppl know about these 'gift' cards. Many companies use(d) that...Also companies who had their own merchant account. They send out cards, have these cards join, and keep CB's low. Nothing new.
                                                Questions?

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                                                • cica
                                                  Registered User
                                                  • Aug 2005
                                                  • 59

                                                  #224
                                                  anybody knows answer?

                                                  anybody knows answer? or any ICQ no. on epassporte support now?

                                                  Originally posted by cica
                                                  anyone knows, if epassporte will renew my account now? it was suspended without any reason (only one was, that an account was created by sunnydollars...) to whom may I write an email now after owners changes?
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                                                  • Michael O
                                                    More Cowbell
                                                    • Jul 2001
                                                    • 10607

                                                    #225
                                                    Originally posted by cica
                                                    anybody knows answer? or any ICQ no. on epassporte support now?
                                                    You can contact me using the info in my sig.
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                                                    • mikaels
                                                      Confirmed User
                                                      • Aug 2004
                                                      • 105

                                                      #226
                                                      Originally posted by justsexxx
                                                      Lol, why post this with another nick? Also, I did not pick on you in every thread. And I'm not jealous as well. Why would I be jealous on you? Maybe you can fill me in

                                                      Thanks

                                                      Andre

                                                      ha ha ha - sorry, but this is priceless.......

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                                                      • sherie
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                                                        • Feb 2002
                                                        • 7020

                                                        #227
                                                        I vote this thread the best business thread of 2006 so far.
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                                                        • JFK
                                                          FUBAR the ORIGINATOR
                                                          • Jan 2002
                                                          • 67369

                                                          #228
                                                          Originally posted by sherie
                                                          I vote this thread the best business thread of 2006 so far.
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                                                          • Methodcash Rick
                                                            Confirmed User
                                                            • Jul 2004
                                                            • 1720

                                                            #229
                                                            Originally posted by Doctor Dre
                                                            Ok so the only way they really make money is the $2 atm fee ?
                                                            Nope, with Business accounts, you fund by wire ( that's been established already ;) ) your bank then charges you a fee ( in our case $25.00 ) then Epassporte charges you a $30 fee, so it cost me $55 each time I wire money to EPassporte to load up my account, wether I load $1 or $10,000, the fee is the same..

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                                                            • cica
                                                              Registered User
                                                              • Aug 2005
                                                              • 59

                                                              #230
                                                              I wrote you an ICQ message...

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                                                              • Doctor Dre
                                                                Too lazy to set a custom title
                                                                • Jan 2001
                                                                • 51692

                                                                #231
                                                                Great reply from Rand in this thread... I don't think anybody could have asked for more.
                                                                Originally posted by rayadp05
                                                                I rebooted, deleted temp files, history, cookies and everything...still cannot view the news clip. All I see is that fucking gay ass music video from "Rick Roll". Anyone else have a different link to the news clip?

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                                                                • Rand
                                                                  Industry Vet
                                                                  • Jan 2002
                                                                  • 2663

                                                                  #232
                                                                  Originally posted by Doctor Dre
                                                                  Great reply from Rand in this thread... I don't think anybody could have asked for more.
                                                                  Thanks Dre, Shap, Hal, J.R., Cpatain Howday, MattyBoy, Validus, and others.

                                                                  Everything is going to be fine. I hope the post helped stop the rumor mills for the sake of everyone.

                                                                  Thanks, as always, for your support and your business.
                                                                  -- Rand


                                                                  Payment Industry - Communications - Quality Assurance

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