Originally posted by Franck
To all the P2PAds.com skeptics...
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You could ask Google the same questions about adwords.Originally posted by FranckToo much work.
Look, the p2pads team is already doing all the work anyway, why not do it with their own sponsors??
We sell traffic to blogs, tgp's landing pages, AVS sites, free sites, paysites and more. Most of these clients bring in revenue otherwise not realized by affiliate programs.Comment
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That about sums up this thread.Originally posted by wm_cibiour P2PADS campaign:
AAC:

AFF:

btw campaign cost us $5k
btw2 campaign has not ended yet..

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Bullshit. If it were THAT good and they are doing all the work anyhow they would take every available click and you wouldn't see so much as a hit from the 50th exit in a chain. Nice sig.Originally posted by ColBigBallsYou?re assuming they don?t.Comment
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Originally posted by ColBigBallsYou?re assuming they don?t.
They dont, look at post 1.
Maybe partly, but why even partly is its this profitable?
Wiredguy mentioned less risk. Well of all people the p2pads guys must know what converts and what not?Comment
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Originally posted by chadglniBullshit. If it were THAT good and they are doing all the work anyhow they would take every available click and you wouldn't see so much as a hit from the 50th exit in a chain. Nice sig.
Thats what im saying.Comment
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wm_cibi have you tried to work with us on your conversions?
I would like to help you make that campaign work for you. Give us the opportunity now before your campaign ends to possibly help you with your landing pages and possibly extend your campaign.
BTW you only show 2 stats pages where is the 3rd url going?Comment
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ROI=Return on Investment?
Originally posted by brand0nSo what kinda ROI did this produce?Comment
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Please repost this in 6 weeks from now. TRUST MEOriginally posted by wm_cibiour P2PADS campaign:
AAC:

AFF:

btw campaign cost us $5k
btw2 campaign has not ended yet..


Both the sponsors you are using take time to turn the free surfer into the full surfer. You will start seeing free signups turn into paid and then the money will start rolling in.
Have patience Obie One
DHLast edited by GTS Mark; 02-07-2006, 12:16 PM.Comment
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It is true it takes longer for a free member to convert but I just notice his free sign-ups are kinda weak.Originally posted by DrinkingHARDERPlease repost this in 6 weeks from now. TRUST ME
Both the sponsors you are using take time to turn the free surfer into the full surfer. You will start seeing free signups turn into paid and then the money will start rolling in.
Have patience Obie One
DH
My fart(from animal retard traffic) converts better to free sign-ups.ISeekGirls.com since 2005Comment
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DH is right. Brad and I have run our own P2P campaigns that ended over a year ago and we still get checks from sponsors.Originally posted by DrinkingHARDERPlease repost this in 6 weeks from now. TRUST ME
Both the sponsors you are using take time to turn the free surfer into the full surfer. You will start seeing free signups turn into paid and then the money will start rolling in.
Have patience Obie One
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What are your rates Brad?Originally posted by Brad GosseThanks CT. I am so glad you had a good experience with our traffic. You are a great customer and we appreciate your continued business!-uno
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The first poster had about 1.2 M page views, assuming he has spent 10K, thats about 8$ CPM for page views. The good thing with P2P is your content is going to stay on the system so you will get more traffic. So even if they reach 2 M Page views, thats 5$ CPM which is very very good.
I have seen people blame the traffic source because the contnet does not convert, have you ever looked at the site or galary or did you send traffic to some targeted sites (Guy downlaods a gay clip on P2P site and the traffic goes to straight site)
I do the exact same thing that P2PAds guys do for main stream and charge a very large CPM rate, no one complains !!.
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Thanks for breaking it down Jay. I know you know what's up.Originally posted by jay23Guys
The first poster had about 1.2 M page views, assuming he has spent 10K, thats about 8$ CPM for page views. The good thing with P2P is your content is going to stay on the system so you will get more traffic. So even if they reach 2 M Page views, thats 5$ CPM which is very very good.
I have seen people blame the traffic source because the contnet does not convert, have you ever looked at the site or galary or did you send traffic to some targeted sites (Guy downlaods a gay clip on P2P site and the traffic goes to straight site)
I do the exact same thing that P2PAds guys do for main stream and charge a very large CPM rate, no one complains !!.
Jay
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I have done a lot of P2P campaigns, tried various sponsors with my own networks. I know one thing, it's ok if you can do it yourself for free ( I generate my own P2P traffic) but I wouldn't pay for it at all. Especially the prices being charged, might as well throw your money out the window
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Uhm...explain that to me.Originally posted by Brad GosseMost of these clients bring in revenue otherwise not realized by affiliate programs.
You sell a package for 10k and the client makes 15k with it by pushing a sponsor. If you wouldve done it yourself (which you did anyway, just not your referral link) you wouldve made 5k more.
No, give me something better because the answer above is pure bs.
It think its funny that nobody, so far, answered my question.Comment
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Maybe you missed the part where I said I have a 150% return on my initial investment... and growingOriginally posted by TinyTimAnyone with experience with p2p traffic knows that it is next to impossible to make money with the prices p2pads are charging. Well, at least the people running p2pads are making money.Comment
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Why does Google sell their ad space instead of joining affiliate programs?
What am I missing here? Traffic is a commodity online and people are willing to pay for it. Why not sell it instead of trying to figure out which sponsor to send it to?Comment
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Originally posted by Brad GosseWhy does Google sell their ad space instead of joining affiliate programs?
What am I missing here? Traffic is a commodity online and people are willing to pay for it. Why not sell it instead of trying to figure out which sponsor to send it to?
Youre missing an important point which i mentioned 2 times already. You are doing the campaings anyway...youre doing all the work anyway...why not add your on referral code to it and make 15k instead of 10k if the traffic is this good.Comment
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alot of hate, but there is no money there
PLEASE STOP READING THIS THREAD, P2P MAKES NO MONEY AND YOU SHOULD NOT DO P2P
P2P WILL MAKE U SAD BECAUSE U WILL MAKE NO MONEY
in other notes, u guys have sure good keywords.Someone finds you...
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PS: Nationalnet is the best host I've ever had. And i tried alot of them.Comment
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There is no need to push them dude, they won't admit it. They are smart, and they know damn well that simply sending that traffic to a dating sponsor will not make them more money than they are already charging for the campaigns.Originally posted by FranckYoure missing an important point which i mentioned 2 times already. You are doing the campaings anyway...youre doing all the work anyway...why not add your on referral code to it and make 15k instead of 10k if the traffic is this good.Custom Software Development, email: woj#at#wojfun#.#com to discuss details or skype: wojl2000 or gchat: wojfun or telegram: wojl2000
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In other words... you are making your money on p2p and don't want any competition.Originally posted by chowdaalot of hate, but there is no money there
PLEASE STOP READING THIS THREAD, P2P MAKES NO MONEY AND YOU SHOULD NOT DO P2P
P2P WILL MAKE U SAD BECAUSE U WILL MAKE NO MONEY
in other notes, u guys have sure good keywords.
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If you are buying traffic you have to have a better mouse trap. Reading on the board how well something does and just slamming traffic to the home page of your favorite sponsor is not a way to great wealth.. unless you count DH's cash.Comment
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$5 CPM for popup untargeted freeloader traffic is "very very good"?Originally posted by jay23...thats 5$ CPM which is very very good.
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well im getting into it, but traffic is traffic. I dont think its worth justifyin to haters if its a good product or not.. coz they will hate hate hate.Originally posted by CTIn other words... you are making your money on p2p and don't want any competition.
its p2pads job to sell their service :D and im sure they didnt ask u to put it up on gfy if it worked or not..
im glad it worked out for you. but please, keep things that work a secret, coz you'll get the dumbest questions out here.Someone finds you...
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PS: Nationalnet is the best host I've ever had. And i tried alot of them.Comment
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hey WOJ that is targeted traffic on the CPM deal BTW. ;)
Thanks for hating just the same. Your brand of hateraide is especially tasty
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There is no hate here, we are all just discussing how much this traffic is really worth...Originally posted by Brad Gossehey WOJ that is targeted traffic on the CPM deal BTW. ;)
Thanks for hating just the same. Your brand of hateraide is especially tasty
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And what is it worth to you?Originally posted by wojThere is no hate here, we are all just discussing how much this traffic is really worth...Comment
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You've been answered. You just ignored it or didn't care to respond.Originally posted by FranckIt think its funny that nobody, so far, answered my question.
Instead of posting repeatedly in here hating on a program you don't know, why don't you try it out or talk directly to someone who has?
Then you can hate away all you want ... but be able to back it up with proof instead of pointless rhetorical questions
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Originally posted by KevshYou've been answered. You just ignored it or didn't care to respond.
Instead of posting repeatedly in here hating on a program you don't know, why don't you try it out or talk directly to someone who has?
Then you can hate away all you want ... but be able to back it up with proof instead of pointless rhetorical questions

I have not been anwered...unless you call "why does google sell traffic" an answer....i dont...it something completely different.
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Originally posted by FranckI have not been anwered...unless you call "why does google sell traffic" an answer....i dont...it something completely different.
He cant answer me...
Franck,
Your logic dictates that nobody should be selling traffic unless it is shitty because they could just convert it all themselves.
Many big companies from Yahoo to The Hun charge for advertising. Does that mean the traffic is poor because they don't convert it all themselves?
NO
What it means is many companies prefer to charge a fixed rate for their inventory instead of trying to figure out who to send it to all the time. So do we.Comment
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You still dont know where to send the traffic? What you advise your clients? I thought by now you would know what work with this amazing traffic..Originally posted by Brad GosseFranck,
Your logic dictates that nobody should be selling traffic unless it is shitty because they could just convert it all themselves.
Many big companies from Yahoo to The Hun charge for advertising. Does that mean the traffic is poor because they don't convert it all themselves?
NO
What it means is many companies prefer to charge a fixed rate for their inventory instead of trying to figure out who to send it to all the time. So do we.
And stop comparing to yahoo and the hun, completely, totally different.
So lets sum up your anwer: You dont know where to send your traffic so you sell it to other people. Instead of doing a few tests and make 5k more on a 10k package (5000 dollars!!) you prefer to get 10k.
What you advise your clients is total bs since you have no idea what converts and what not.
Hmm nice.Comment
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Well put Rob. I didn't put too much time into tweaking my campaign, I just threw it up and let it ride. It's been over for about 3 months and its still averaging 3 sales per day and plenty of rebills. Hindsight being 20/20, I can now think of about a million things that I could have done to improve on my results. The traffic is exciting though. I would be interested in giving it another go with some new strategies specific to maximizing the potential of this type of traffic.Originally posted by RobbieRyeWe certainly won't be overexposing our traffic source (read: network) woj. I hear what you're saying, but there are a lot of users on the P2P networks right now.
The trick really is knowing how to make that traffic convert. It's a bit different the regular web traffic. If you're willing to work with the traffic and figure out how it's different - it will work very well. However, if you're not willing to spend the time to work with it, it simply won't.
So, the secret isn't that P2P Ads has this product, the secret is really only your own experience and how to make it work.
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