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  • ColBigBalls
    Confirmed User
    • Aug 2003
    • 1733

    #51
    Originally posted by Franck
    Too much work.

    Look, the p2pads team is already doing all the work anyway, why not do it with their own sponsors??
    You?re assuming they don?t.

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    • Brad Gosse
      Confirmed User
      • Jan 2002
      • 2616

      #52
      Originally posted by Franck
      Too much work.

      Look, the p2pads team is already doing all the work anyway, why not do it with their own sponsors??
      You could ask Google the same questions about adwords.

      We sell traffic to blogs, tgp's landing pages, AVS sites, free sites, paysites and more. Most of these clients bring in revenue otherwise not realized by affiliate programs.
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      • chadglni
        Confirmed User
        • Dec 2002
        • 6924

        #53
        Originally posted by wm_cibi
        our P2PADS campaign:

        AAC:

        AFF:


        btw campaign cost us $5k
        btw2 campaign has not ended yet..

        That about sums up this thread.


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        • Dirty F
          Too lazy to set a custom title
          • Jul 2001
          • 59204

          #54
          Originally posted by wm_cibi
          our P2PADS campaign:

          AAC:

          AFF:


          btw campaign cost us $5k
          btw2 campaign has not ended yet..


          How much longer is it gonna run?

          You think you will make your money back?

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          • chadglni
            Confirmed User
            • Dec 2002
            • 6924

            #55
            Originally posted by ColBigBalls
            You?re assuming they don?t.
            Bullshit. If it were THAT good and they are doing all the work anyhow they would take every available click and you wouldn't see so much as a hit from the 50th exit in a chain. Nice sig.


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            • Sosa
              In Tushy Land
              • Oct 2002
              • 40149

              #56
              1 person does good, 1 person does bad. Just depends on the person and what program they are sending the traffic too. I can't take the risk of trying it right now like I would like too but possibly in the future.

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              • Dirty F
                Too lazy to set a custom title
                • Jul 2001
                • 59204

                #57
                Originally posted by ColBigBalls
                You?re assuming they don?t.

                They dont, look at post 1.

                Maybe partly, but why even partly is its this profitable?

                Wiredguy mentioned less risk. Well of all people the p2pads guys must know what converts and what not?

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                • Dirty F
                  Too lazy to set a custom title
                  • Jul 2001
                  • 59204

                  #58
                  Originally posted by chadglni
                  Bullshit. If it were THAT good and they are doing all the work anyhow they would take every available click and you wouldn't see so much as a hit from the 50th exit in a chain. Nice sig.

                  Thats what im saying.

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                  • Brad Gosse
                    Confirmed User
                    • Jan 2002
                    • 2616

                    #59
                    wm_cibi have you tried to work with us on your conversions?

                    I would like to help you make that campaign work for you. Give us the opportunity now before your campaign ends to possibly help you with your landing pages and possibly extend your campaign.

                    BTW you only show 2 stats pages where is the 3rd url going?
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                    • whoisnext
                      Registered User
                      • Jun 2005
                      • 93

                      #60
                      ROI=Return on Investment?

                      Originally posted by brand0n
                      So what kinda ROI did this produce?
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                      • jjjay
                        Registered User
                        • Jun 2005
                        • 1813

                        #61
                        Originally posted by whoisnext
                        ROI=Return on Investment?
                        wow



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                        • GTS Mark
                          Vrume Mark
                          • Jan 2001
                          • 20912

                          #62
                          Originally posted by wm_cibi
                          our P2PADS campaign:

                          AAC:

                          AFF:


                          btw campaign cost us $5k
                          btw2 campaign has not ended yet..

                          Please repost this in 6 weeks from now. TRUST ME

                          Both the sponsors you are using take time to turn the free surfer into the full surfer. You will start seeing free signups turn into paid and then the money will start rolling in.

                          Have patience Obie One

                          DH
                          Last edited by GTS Mark; 02-07-2006, 12:16 PM.

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                          • Dirty F
                            Too lazy to set a custom title
                            • Jul 2001
                            • 59204

                            #63
                            True true, a lot of dating sponsors convert days to even months after the free signups.

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                            • Dirty F
                              Too lazy to set a custom title
                              • Jul 2001
                              • 59204

                              #64
                              With datinggold im still get sales from people who signed up AGES ago.

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                              • TheSenator
                                Too lazy to set a custom title
                                • Feb 2003
                                • 13330

                                #65
                                Originally posted by DrinkingHARDER
                                Please repost this in 6 weeks from now. TRUST ME

                                Both the sponsors you are using take time to turn the free surfer into the full surfer. You will start seeing free signups turn into paid and then the money will start rolling in.

                                Have patience Obie One

                                DH
                                It is true it takes longer for a free member to convert but I just notice his free sign-ups are kinda weak.

                                My fart(from animal retard traffic) converts better to free sign-ups.
                                ISeekGirls.com since 2005

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                                • Claire Gosse
                                  Registered User
                                  • Dec 2005
                                  • 34

                                  #66
                                  Originally posted by DrinkingHARDER
                                  Please repost this in 6 weeks from now. TRUST ME

                                  Both the sponsors you are using take time to turn the free surfer into the full surfer. You will start seeing free signups turn into paid and then the money will start rolling in.

                                  Have patience Obie One

                                  DH
                                  DH is right. Brad and I have run our own P2P campaigns that ended over a year ago and we still get checks from sponsors.
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                                  • Blizzard
                                    Confirmed User
                                    • Jan 2006
                                    • 200

                                    #67
                                    Something killed this thread.

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                                    • uno
                                      RIP Dodger. BEST.CAT.EVER
                                      • Dec 2002
                                      • 18450

                                      #68
                                      Originally posted by Brad Gosse
                                      Thanks CT. I am so glad you had a good experience with our traffic. You are a great customer and we appreciate your continued business!
                                      What are your rates Brad?
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                                      • jay23
                                        Confirmed User
                                        • Jun 2003
                                        • 1444

                                        #69
                                        Guys

                                        The first poster had about 1.2 M page views, assuming he has spent 10K, thats about 8$ CPM for page views. The good thing with P2P is your content is going to stay on the system so you will get more traffic. So even if they reach 2 M Page views, thats 5$ CPM which is very very good.

                                        I have seen people blame the traffic source because the contnet does not convert, have you ever looked at the site or galary or did you send traffic to some targeted sites (Guy downlaods a gay clip on P2P site and the traffic goes to straight site)

                                        I do the exact same thing that P2PAds guys do for main stream and charge a very large CPM rate, no one complains !!.

                                        Jay

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                                        • Just_Dave
                                          Its almost time
                                          • Dec 2002
                                          • 13009

                                          #70
                                          the p2p crew are great people

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                                          • RobbieRye
                                            Registered User
                                            • Oct 2005
                                            • 616

                                            #71
                                            Originally posted by Just_Dave
                                            the p2p crew are great people
                                            That's nice of you Dave, thanks!

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                                            • Brad Gosse
                                              Confirmed User
                                              • Jan 2002
                                              • 2616

                                              #72
                                              Originally posted by jay23
                                              Guys

                                              The first poster had about 1.2 M page views, assuming he has spent 10K, thats about 8$ CPM for page views. The good thing with P2P is your content is going to stay on the system so you will get more traffic. So even if they reach 2 M Page views, thats 5$ CPM which is very very good.

                                              I have seen people blame the traffic source because the contnet does not convert, have you ever looked at the site or galary or did you send traffic to some targeted sites (Guy downlaods a gay clip on P2P site and the traffic goes to straight site)

                                              I do the exact same thing that P2PAds guys do for main stream and charge a very large CPM rate, no one complains !!.

                                              Jay
                                              Thanks for breaking it down Jay. I know you know what's up.
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                                              • TinyTim
                                                Confirmed User
                                                • Apr 2003
                                                • 188

                                                #73
                                                I have done a lot of P2P campaigns, tried various sponsors with my own networks. I know one thing, it's ok if you can do it yourself for free ( I generate my own P2P traffic) but I wouldn't pay for it at all. Especially the prices being charged, might as well throw your money out the window

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                                                • Why
                                                  MFBA
                                                  • Mar 2003
                                                  • 7230

                                                  #74
                                                  Originally posted by jimmy-3-way
                                                  You know how sometimes you want to post something, but you should really hold your tongue?

                                                  I have those moments a lot.
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                                                  • Dirty F
                                                    Too lazy to set a custom title
                                                    • Jul 2001
                                                    • 59204

                                                    #75
                                                    Originally posted by Brad Gosse
                                                    Most of these clients bring in revenue otherwise not realized by affiliate programs.
                                                    Uhm...explain that to me.

                                                    You sell a package for 10k and the client makes 15k with it by pushing a sponsor. If you wouldve done it yourself (which you did anyway, just not your referral link) you wouldve made 5k more.

                                                    No, give me something better because the answer above is pure bs.

                                                    It think its funny that nobody, so far, answered my question.

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                                                    • Dirty F
                                                      Too lazy to set a custom title
                                                      • Jul 2001
                                                      • 59204

                                                      #76
                                                      This traffic is so good, so profitable, does so well with dating sponsors etc. Hey lets give it away and lose money.

                                                      Yeah that makes so much sense.

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                                                      • TinyTim
                                                        Confirmed User
                                                        • Apr 2003
                                                        • 188

                                                        #77
                                                        Anyone with experience with p2p traffic knows that it is next to impossible to make money with the prices p2pads are charging. Well, at least the people running p2pads are making money.

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                                                        • CT
                                                          Confirmed User
                                                          • Jan 2005
                                                          • 513

                                                          #78
                                                          Originally posted by TinyTim
                                                          Anyone with experience with p2p traffic knows that it is next to impossible to make money with the prices p2pads are charging. Well, at least the people running p2pads are making money.
                                                          Maybe you missed the part where I said I have a 150% return on my initial investment... and growing



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                                                          • Veterans Day
                                                            Confirmed User
                                                            • Jul 2003
                                                            • 8403

                                                            #79
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                                                            • Brad Gosse
                                                              Confirmed User
                                                              • Jan 2002
                                                              • 2616

                                                              #80
                                                              Why does Google sell their ad space instead of joining affiliate programs?

                                                              What am I missing here? Traffic is a commodity online and people are willing to pay for it. Why not sell it instead of trying to figure out which sponsor to send it to?
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                                                              • Pornwolf
                                                                Drunk and Unruly
                                                                • Jan 2002
                                                                • 22712

                                                                #81
                                                                It's never safe to go in the water here on GFY.
                                                                I've trusted my sites to them for over a decade...

                                                                Webair, bitches.

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                                                                • Dirty F
                                                                  Too lazy to set a custom title
                                                                  • Jul 2001
                                                                  • 59204

                                                                  #82
                                                                  Originally posted by Brad Gosse
                                                                  Why does Google sell their ad space instead of joining affiliate programs?

                                                                  What am I missing here? Traffic is a commodity online and people are willing to pay for it. Why not sell it instead of trying to figure out which sponsor to send it to?

                                                                  Youre missing an important point which i mentioned 2 times already. You are doing the campaings anyway...youre doing all the work anyway...why not add your on referral code to it and make 15k instead of 10k if the traffic is this good.

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                                                                  • chowda
                                                                    Confirmed User
                                                                    • Jun 2003
                                                                    • 9527

                                                                    #83
                                                                    alot of hate, but there is no money there

                                                                    PLEASE STOP READING THIS THREAD, P2P MAKES NO MONEY AND YOU SHOULD NOT DO P2P

                                                                    P2P WILL MAKE U SAD BECAUSE U WILL MAKE NO MONEY

                                                                    in other notes, u guys have sure good keywords.
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                                                                    • woj
                                                                      <&(©¿©)&>
                                                                      • Jul 2002
                                                                      • 47880

                                                                      #84
                                                                      Originally posted by Franck
                                                                      Youre missing an important point which i mentioned 2 times already. You are doing the campaings anyway...youre doing all the work anyway...why not add your on referral code to it and make 15k instead of 10k if the traffic is this good.
                                                                      There is no need to push them dude, they won't admit it. They are smart, and they know damn well that simply sending that traffic to a dating sponsor will not make them more money than they are already charging for the campaigns.
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                                                                      • CT
                                                                        Confirmed User
                                                                        • Jan 2005
                                                                        • 513

                                                                        #85
                                                                        Originally posted by chowda
                                                                        alot of hate, but there is no money there

                                                                        PLEASE STOP READING THIS THREAD, P2P MAKES NO MONEY AND YOU SHOULD NOT DO P2P

                                                                        P2P WILL MAKE U SAD BECAUSE U WILL MAKE NO MONEY

                                                                        in other notes, u guys have sure good keywords.
                                                                        In other words... you are making your money on p2p and don't want any competition.



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                                                                        • CT
                                                                          Confirmed User
                                                                          • Jan 2005
                                                                          • 513

                                                                          #86
                                                                          Last edited by CT; 02-08-2006, 10:26 AM.



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                                                                          • xNetworx
                                                                            So Fucking What
                                                                            • Jan 2004
                                                                            • 14445

                                                                            #87
                                                                            From what I have read on GFY, It seems to me that CT is one of the only success stories with this service.

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                                                                            • slapass
                                                                              Too lazy to set a custom title
                                                                              • Nov 2002
                                                                              • 14625

                                                                              #88
                                                                              If you are buying traffic you have to have a better mouse trap. Reading on the board how well something does and just slamming traffic to the home page of your favorite sponsor is not a way to great wealth.. unless you count DH's cash.

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                                                                              • woj
                                                                                <&(©¿©)&>
                                                                                • Jul 2002
                                                                                • 47880

                                                                                #89
                                                                                Originally posted by jay23
                                                                                ...thats 5$ CPM which is very very good.
                                                                                $5 CPM for popup untargeted freeloader traffic is "very very good"?
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                                                                                • chowda
                                                                                  Confirmed User
                                                                                  • Jun 2003
                                                                                  • 9527

                                                                                  #90
                                                                                  Originally posted by CT
                                                                                  In other words... you are making your money on p2p and don't want any competition.
                                                                                  well im getting into it, but traffic is traffic. I dont think its worth justifyin to haters if its a good product or not.. coz they will hate hate hate.

                                                                                  its p2pads job to sell their service :D and im sure they didnt ask u to put it up on gfy if it worked or not..

                                                                                  im glad it worked out for you. but please, keep things that work a secret, coz you'll get the dumbest questions out here.
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                                                                                  PS: Nationalnet is the best host I've ever had. And i tried alot of them.

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                                                                                  • Dirty F
                                                                                    Too lazy to set a custom title
                                                                                    • Jul 2001
                                                                                    • 59204

                                                                                    #91
                                                                                    Originally posted by woj
                                                                                    $5 CPM for popup untargeted freeloader traffic is "very very good"?

                                                                                    Yeah thats crazy...

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                                                                                    • Brad Gosse
                                                                                      Confirmed User
                                                                                      • Jan 2002
                                                                                      • 2616

                                                                                      #92
                                                                                      hey WOJ that is targeted traffic on the CPM deal BTW. ;)

                                                                                      Thanks for hating just the same. Your brand of hateraide is especially tasty
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                                                                                      • woj
                                                                                        <&(©¿©)&>
                                                                                        • Jul 2002
                                                                                        • 47880

                                                                                        #93
                                                                                        Originally posted by Brad Gosse
                                                                                        hey WOJ that is targeted traffic on the CPM deal BTW. ;)

                                                                                        Thanks for hating just the same. Your brand of hateraide is especially tasty
                                                                                        There is no hate here, we are all just discussing how much this traffic is really worth...
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                                                                                        • Brad Gosse
                                                                                          Confirmed User
                                                                                          • Jan 2002
                                                                                          • 2616

                                                                                          #94
                                                                                          Originally posted by woj
                                                                                          There is no hate here, we are all just discussing how much this traffic is really worth...
                                                                                          And what is it worth to you?
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                                                                                          • Snake Doctor
                                                                                            I'm Lenny2 Bitch
                                                                                            • Mar 2001
                                                                                            • 13449

                                                                                            #95
                                                                                            Congrats to the winners
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                                                                                            • Kevsh
                                                                                              Confirmed User
                                                                                              • Dec 2004
                                                                                              • 8619

                                                                                              #96
                                                                                              Originally posted by Franck
                                                                                              It think its funny that nobody, so far, answered my question.
                                                                                              You've been answered. You just ignored it or didn't care to respond.
                                                                                              Instead of posting repeatedly in here hating on a program you don't know, why don't you try it out or talk directly to someone who has?

                                                                                              Then you can hate away all you want ... but be able to back it up with proof instead of pointless rhetorical questions

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                                                                                              • Dirty F
                                                                                                Too lazy to set a custom title
                                                                                                • Jul 2001
                                                                                                • 59204

                                                                                                #97
                                                                                                Originally posted by Kevsh
                                                                                                You've been answered. You just ignored it or didn't care to respond.
                                                                                                Instead of posting repeatedly in here hating on a program you don't know, why don't you try it out or talk directly to someone who has?

                                                                                                Then you can hate away all you want ... but be able to back it up with proof instead of pointless rhetorical questions


                                                                                                I have not been anwered...unless you call "why does google sell traffic" an answer....i dont...it something completely different.

                                                                                                He cant answer me...

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                                                                                                • Brad Gosse
                                                                                                  Confirmed User
                                                                                                  • Jan 2002
                                                                                                  • 2616

                                                                                                  #98
                                                                                                  Originally posted by Franck
                                                                                                  I have not been anwered...unless you call "why does google sell traffic" an answer....i dont...it something completely different.

                                                                                                  He cant answer me...

                                                                                                  Franck,

                                                                                                  Your logic dictates that nobody should be selling traffic unless it is shitty because they could just convert it all themselves.

                                                                                                  Many big companies from Yahoo to The Hun charge for advertising. Does that mean the traffic is poor because they don't convert it all themselves?

                                                                                                  NO

                                                                                                  What it means is many companies prefer to charge a fixed rate for their inventory instead of trying to figure out who to send it to all the time. So do we.
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                                                                                                  • Dirty F
                                                                                                    Too lazy to set a custom title
                                                                                                    • Jul 2001
                                                                                                    • 59204

                                                                                                    #99
                                                                                                    Originally posted by Brad Gosse
                                                                                                    Franck,

                                                                                                    Your logic dictates that nobody should be selling traffic unless it is shitty because they could just convert it all themselves.

                                                                                                    Many big companies from Yahoo to The Hun charge for advertising. Does that mean the traffic is poor because they don't convert it all themselves?

                                                                                                    NO

                                                                                                    What it means is many companies prefer to charge a fixed rate for their inventory instead of trying to figure out who to send it to all the time. So do we.
                                                                                                    You still dont know where to send the traffic? What you advise your clients? I thought by now you would know what work with this amazing traffic..

                                                                                                    And stop comparing to yahoo and the hun, completely, totally different.

                                                                                                    So lets sum up your anwer: You dont know where to send your traffic so you sell it to other people. Instead of doing a few tests and make 5k more on a 10k package (5000 dollars!!) you prefer to get 10k.
                                                                                                    What you advise your clients is total bs since you have no idea what converts and what not.

                                                                                                    Hmm nice.

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                                                                                                    • BobG
                                                                                                      Confirmed User
                                                                                                      • Nov 2003
                                                                                                      • 4274

                                                                                                      #100
                                                                                                      Originally posted by RobbieRye
                                                                                                      We certainly won't be overexposing our traffic source (read: network) woj. I hear what you're saying, but there are a lot of users on the P2P networks right now.

                                                                                                      The trick really is knowing how to make that traffic convert. It's a bit different the regular web traffic. If you're willing to work with the traffic and figure out how it's different - it will work very well. However, if you're not willing to spend the time to work with it, it simply won't.

                                                                                                      So, the secret isn't that P2P Ads has this product, the secret is really only your own experience and how to make it work.
                                                                                                      Well put Rob. I didn't put too much time into tweaking my campaign, I just threw it up and let it ride. It's been over for about 3 months and its still averaging 3 sales per day and plenty of rebills. Hindsight being 20/20, I can now think of about a million things that I could have done to improve on my results. The traffic is exciting though. I would be interested in giving it another go with some new strategies specific to maximizing the potential of this type of traffic.

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