A Bad Business Decision Thread: In 2003, Google offered to buy Friendster for $30MM

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  • stereolab
    Confirmed User
    • Mar 2004
    • 798

    #1

    A Bad Business Decision Thread: In 2003, Google offered to buy Friendster for $30MM

    in Pre-IPO stock. Friendster founder Jonathan Abrams rejected it in favor of $13 million in VC funds because the firms valued the company at $53 million. Of course, now, those firms no longer want to fund the company, and Google's stock hit nearly $500 per share.

    http://www.findarticles.com/p/articl.../ai_kepm358716

    had they taken that offer, they would be worth something like $2.5 Billion

    recently they asked Viacom to buy them for $5,000,000. Viacom rejected the offer.

    http://www.paidcontent.org/pc/arch/2...1.shtml#053107

    damn.

    anyone else have bad business decision stories - your own or otherwise?
  • uno
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    • Dec 2002
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    #2
    hah. I always hated friendster.
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    • stereolab
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      • Mar 2004
      • 798

      #3
      Originally posted by uno
      hah. I always hated friendster.

      allowing bands to promote themselves really let MySpace grow rapidly in that market. now they got bought for $500 Million. friendster didn't allow this. friendster should have been more liberal in their profile polices.

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      • jjjay
        Registered User
        • Jun 2005
        • 1813

        #4
        so google launched orkut instead - how come it never took off? (except in brazil)

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        • mrthumbs
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          • Apr 2002
          • 11702

          #5
          Originally posted by jjjay
          so google launched orkut instead - how come it never took off? (except in brazil)

          I belive the biggest reason for that no taking off is the name

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          • DamageX
            Marketing & Strategy
            • Jun 2001
            • 14293

            #6
            Originally posted by mrthumbs
            I belive the biggest reason for that no taking off is the name
            Agreed, sounds more like a disease or some obscure, small jungle animal with no genetic belongings to any other species.
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            • jimb
              Confirmed User
              • Feb 2005
              • 2514

              #7
              This sounds like what happened to Mark Cuban...only Mark took the money for Broadcast.com

              Jim

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              • stereolab
                Confirmed User
                • Mar 2004
                • 798

                #8
                Originally posted by jimb
                This sounds like what happened to Mark Cuban...only Mark took the money for Broadcast.com

                Jim
                fuckin' a. people say 'oh he was just lucky'. my ass. he knew when to sell. that's not luck.

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                • FlyingIguana
                  aspiring banker
                  • Mar 2002
                  • 10870

                  #9
                  Originally posted by stereolab
                  in Pre-IPO stock. Friendster founder Jonathan Abrams rejected it in favor of $13 million in VC funds because the firms valued the company at $53 million. Of course, now, those firms no longer want to fund the company, and Google's stock hit nearly $500 per share.

                  http://www.findarticles.com/p/articl.../ai_kepm358716

                  had they taken that offer, they would be worth something like $2.5 Billion

                  recently they asked Viacom to buy them for $5,000,000. Viacom rejected the offer.

                  http://www.paidcontent.org/pc/arch/2...1.shtml#053107

                  damn.

                  anyone else have bad business decision stories - your own or otherwise?

                  there's bad and then there's just downright idiotic. they're gonna have to transform the site somehow to maximize value. weird the VC firm didn't assist them in a transition to at least get some chance of a return.

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                  • FlyingIguana
                    aspiring banker
                    • Mar 2002
                    • 10870

                    #10
                    Originally posted by stereolab
                    fuckin' a. people say 'oh he was just lucky'. my ass. he knew when to sell. that's not luck.
                    and he bought options for when the stock he recieved tanked. he goes against the herd and made a killing, far from luck.

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                    • stereolab
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                      • Mar 2004
                      • 798

                      #11
                      Originally posted by FlyingIguana
                      and he bought options for when the stock he recieved tanked. he goes against the herd and made a killing, far from luck.
                      it will be interesting to see what happens with his HDTV company. content content content.

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                      • stereolab
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                        • Mar 2004
                        • 798

                        #12
                        Originally posted by FlyingIguana
                        there's bad and then there's just downright idiotic. they're gonna have to transform the site somehow to maximize value. weird the VC firm didn't assist them in a transition to at least get some chance of a return.
                        there's a major shift going on in the whole 'social networking' thing from relationship-networking to 'shared interest' networking. you can see that with Yahoo's recent buys. http://del.icio.us/ and http://webjay.org/. To me, it makes more sense to network people via shared interest rather than relationships. or even better, a combination of the two. myspace is doing a pretty good job of leveraging its membership base, even though most of the sites on myspace look worse than Geocities circa 1996.

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                        • dopeman
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                          • Jan 2005
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                          #13
                          bad business decision bump

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                          • warlock5
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                            • Jan 2004
                            • 2808

                            #14
                            I saw a blog post somewhere that Friendster's recent valuation put it at about $3million. In the meantime, venture capitalists are still pouring millions into it.

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                            • Doctor Dre
                              Too lazy to set a custom title
                              • Jan 2001
                              • 51692

                              #15
                              I don't think I've ever visited friendster once
                              Originally posted by rayadp05
                              I rebooted, deleted temp files, history, cookies and everything...still cannot view the news clip. All I see is that fucking gay ass music video from "Rick Roll". Anyone else have a different link to the news clip?

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                              • stereolab
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                                • Mar 2004
                                • 798

                                #16
                                Originally posted by warlock5
                                In the meantime, venture capitalists are still pouring millions into it.
                                is this true? i haven't seen any recent news about friendster raising any money.

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                                • wdsguy
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                                  • Dec 2002
                                  • 19568

                                  #17
                                  friendster pheers myspace.

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                                  • jacked
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                                    • May 2004
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                                    #18
                                    friendster is gay anyway myspace is better... facebook is more popular than friendster now a days...
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                                    • FlyingIguana
                                      aspiring banker
                                      • Mar 2002
                                      • 10870

                                      #19
                                      Originally posted by stereolab
                                      there's a major shift going on in the whole 'social networking' thing from relationship-networking to 'shared interest' networking. you can see that with Yahoo's recent buys. http://del.icio.us/ and http://webjay.org/. To me, it makes more sense to network people via shared interest rather than relationships. or even better, a combination of the two. myspace is doing a pretty good job of leveraging its membership base, even though most of the sites on myspace look worse than Geocities circa 1996.
                                      combine the two and you could have a winner

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                                      • quantum-x
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                                        • Feb 2002
                                        • 6863

                                        #20
                                        Originally posted by jacked
                                        friendster is gay anyway myspace is better... facebook is more popular than friendster now a days...

                                        I thought friendster was the asian myspace? ;)
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                                        • warlock5
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                                          • Jan 2004
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                                          #21
                                          Originally posted by stereolab
                                          is this true? i haven't seen any recent news about friendster raising any money.
                                          Here is the story I read about friendster's valuation:
                                          http://www.techcrunch.com/2006/02/02...recapitalized/

                                          "The rumor floating around over the last week, which I?ve heard from multiple sources close to Kleiner Perkins, is that the fund has stepped in to stop a shutdown. They have injected limited additional funds (I?ve heard numbers between $5 million and $12 million) and have restructured the capitalization of the company to heavily favor their fund (this would be customary in a recapitalization)."

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                                          • stereolab
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                                            • Mar 2004
                                            • 798

                                            #22
                                            Originally posted by warlock5
                                            Here is the story I read about friendster's valuation:

                                            ... have restructured the capitalization of the company to heavily favor their fund (this would be customary in a recapitalization)."

                                            massive dilution.

                                            imagine had they taken the pre-ipo GOOG stock.

                                            thanks for the link. i usually check that site daily, but missed today.

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                                            • Drake
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                                              • Mar 2003
                                              • 12508

                                              #23
                                              Abrams must be kicking himself

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                                              • WebairGerard
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                                                • Sep 2005
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                                                #24
                                                bad move for sure

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                                                • tristan_D
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                                                  • Jul 2005
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                                                  #25
                                                  Friendster is going down for sure
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                                                  • stereolab
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                                                    • Mar 2004
                                                    • 798

                                                    #26
                                                    Originally posted by Mike33
                                                    Abrams must be kicking himself
                                                    i'm sure he is now that his equity is diluted

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                                                    • reynold
                                                      Too lazy to set a custom title
                                                      • Oct 2002
                                                      • 51271

                                                      #27
                                                      oh my gosh. i hate to bare this - i have a friendster account. it's good, though.

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                                                      • SomeCreep
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                                                        • Mar 2003
                                                        • 26118

                                                        #28
                                                        Originally posted by wdsguy
                                                        friendster pheers myspace.
                                                        as they should

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