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  • greenlab
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    • Oct 2002
    • 252
    #101
    sorry for the typos, as i was writing this is a super hurry from a microsoft shit type of keyboard (the old one that is splited in 2) ..

    Originally posted by Brad Mitchell
    Hi

    Just wanted to say that I enjoyed reading your

    Cheers,

    Brad

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      • AlienQ - BANNED FOR LIFE
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        • Mar 2003
        • 30307
        #102
        Originally posted by jonesy
        who benefits most from the split?
        A better question would be...

        Who will survive.

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          • ServerGenius
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            • Feb 2002
            • 9377
            #103
            Originally posted by RogerV
            I dont think either company is in trouble I would bet it was just a business dicision made by both parties to split completely. nothing is going to change on our end. we will still use both companies and its Business as usual at PornoPushers.

            Now send us your traffic..
            If you think that nothing will change you should read greenlab's post again.
            Try to understand it this time
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              • Tat2Jr
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                • Feb 2001
                • 4882
                #104
                I'm certainly not going to be doing epass payments for free or for anything as small as $50 anymore. Maybe I could do it with a $200 limit, but can't afford all those new wire fees (since we pay all the credit card processing fees for affiliates already). Paycom only charged us $2 to send our money to epass. This is mega lame.
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                  • xxxice
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                    • Feb 2002
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                    #105
                    Originally posted by Trax
                    i know why there were not more threads about this before shap did a new one...
                    this might get very interesting very soon.............................................. .......

                    Want to share?

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                      • Trax
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                        • Aug 2001
                        • 14486
                        #106
                        Originally posted by vanderweb
                        Want to share?
                        no
                        .......

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                          • xxxice
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                            • Feb 2002
                            • 5042
                            #107
                            Originally posted by Trax
                            no
                            .......
                            Typical response

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                              • AlienQ - BANNED FOR LIFE
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                                • Mar 2003
                                • 30307
                                #108
                                Just lookin out here.

                                Webmasters better read this thread its important.

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                                  • Nicky
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                                    • Mar 2003
                                    • 30071
                                    #109
                                    This thread is making me shit my pants

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                                      • zentz
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                                        • Nov 2003
                                        • 8062
                                        #110
                                        yup. those are the huge news.
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                                          • rowan
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                                            • Mar 2002
                                            • 17393
                                            #111
                                            This needs bumping and reading a lot more. greenlab's post - if it is true - makes me very nervous.

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                                              • greenlab
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                                                • Oct 2002
                                                • 252
                                                #112
                                                Originally posted by rowan
                                                This needs bumping and reading a lot more. greenlab's post - if it is true - makes me very nervous.

                                                hey rowan, take a look at this :

                                                If you are offered a gift site and a gift ePassporte Visa, you accept that offer and you meet the eligibility requirements for the offer, then the following applies to you:

                                                A marketing company will purchase an ePassporte Virtual Visa account on your behalf. An ePassporte Virtual Visa is a pre-paid Visa product that allows you to purchase goods and services over the Internet. Because it is a pre-paid Visa product, the creation of the ePassporte Virtual Visa will not affect your credit rating, extend any credit to you, nor incur any debt in your name.

                                                By accepting the offer you agree that the marketing company and ePassporte may receive personal data about you (which data will NOT include the account number you use to purchase a membership from the Company), create an ePassporte Visa on your behalf, facilitate the transaction processing for your membership to the Gift Site and send communications to you. Also, by accepting this offer, you agree to ePassporte's Terms and Conditions.

                                                Once an ePassporte Virtual Visa has been created on your behalf, each month that the Gift Site membership remains active the marketing company will load sufficient funds onto the account to cover all costs of the Gift Site. Paycom will bill you for that Gift Site membership immediately upon the loading of the funds. In addition, however, the marketing company will load additional funds onto the Visa that you can spend anywhere on the Internet in order to give you a chance to become familiar with the ePassporte Virtual Visa's features and functions. All of the additional funds loaded onto the card belong to you.

                                                The marketing company shall have the right to cease loading funds onto your ePassporte Visa at its sole and absolute discretion, without notice, and with or without cause. But, if it ceases loading funds onto your ePassporte Visa, you will NOT receive any additional charges for the Gift Site, and the Gift Site membership will expire.



                                                http://www.actionbabecentral.com/terms.html

                                                scroll down to GIFT SITE AND GIFT EPASSPORTE VISA ...

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                                                  • rowan
                                                    Too lazy to set a custom title
                                                    • Mar 2002
                                                    • 17393
                                                    #113
                                                    Originally posted by greenlab
                                                    Once an ePassporte Virtual Visa has been created on your behalf, each month that the Gift Site membership remains active the marketing company will load sufficient funds onto the account to cover all costs of the Gift Site. Paycom will bill you for that Gift Site membership immediately upon the loading of the funds. In addition, however, the marketing company will load additional funds onto the Visa that you can spend anywhere on the Internet in order to give you a chance to become familiar with the ePassporte Virtual Visa's features and functions. All of the additional funds loaded onto the card belong to you.
                                                    Ok, I'm still trying to get my head around this... is it as simple as the cost of covering gift memberships being lower than chargeback fines (and the potential risk of a devastating consequence such as losing a merchant account), or is there more to it?

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                                                      • ThumbLord
                                                        #114
                                                        makes me go hmmmm ........

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                                                          • greenlab
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                                                            • Oct 2002
                                                            • 252
                                                            #115
                                                            rowan, there is actually no membership cost...

                                                            Let's say we have : Paycom, Epassporte and the "marketing company" (all 3 owned by the same group of people, or with clear written contracts". Till now, all 3 were acutally Paycom.

                                                            When you bought a site membership trough Paycom, the "marketing company" was offering you a gift membership to a gift site. The membeship could cost let's say 29.99/month. Epassporte is issuing you a Visa Gift Card where the "marketing company" is loading the $29.99 and then bills the card imediatlly for $29.99 trough the paycom merchant account. So they put the money in and they take them back in 20 sec. The only costs involved are the processing fees, but this are low since they pay "at cost" and not the 15% paycom is charging you (as they have to include their profit margin". Also they get a discouted rate becouse Epassporte and SKNAB Bank are also gaining some % from the processing rate as the card issuer, so the costs are in a range of 2$ for a $29.99 ...the 29.99 is just an example..it can be 9.99 or ever 3$/month.


                                                            The savings are huge as volume chargeback fines can be as high as millions of dollars....paycom and ibill were fined one or 2 times in the past...

                                                            Also this small processing cost is recovered from processing fees/profits that come from "cross-sales" as i dont see any other processor offering 2 pre checked 29.99/month cross sales.....do you think ccbill wont offer crossales anymore if they could ?

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                                                              • rowan
                                                                Too lazy to set a custom title
                                                                • Mar 2002
                                                                • 17393
                                                                #116
                                                                Originally posted by greenlab
                                                                rowan, there is actually no membership cost...
                                                                You're right, I wasn't thinking straight. It's just shifting money back and forth via a third party bank.

                                                                There would still be some effective cost because of fees and the actual content provision (the benefit of the gift membership) of course, but it's relatively small.

                                                                Does the "fraud reducing" arrangement still exist now that the companies have split?

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                                                                  • rowan
                                                                    Too lazy to set a custom title
                                                                    • Mar 2002
                                                                    • 17393
                                                                    #117
                                                                    I can't believe that people are not jumping on this thread... maybe we need a better title.

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                                                                      • Furious_Male
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                                                                        • Oct 2003
                                                                        • 16884
                                                                        #118
                                                                        Originally posted by rowan
                                                                        I can't believe that people are not jumping on this thread... maybe we need a better title.
                                                                        I am concerned as an affiliate that has a decent amount of funds going through the epassporte system on a monthly basis.

                                                                        I just don't know what to say or think at this time. Some sort of official response from epassporte would be real nice.
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                                                                          • AlienQ - BANNED FOR LIFE
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                                                                            • Mar 2003
                                                                            • 30307
                                                                            #119
                                                                            My question is simply.

                                                                            Will the event inflate charge backs at PAYCOM?

                                                                            If The scenerio is correct then PAYCOM stands to be in some deep shit with Charge Backs.

                                                                            Epass collapses chasing mainstream down or succeeds, PayCom burns to death in Chargebacks.

                                                                            Those are the only scenerio's that can play out.

                                                                            Either way webmasters loose, and the all so seasonable and inevitable "Visa Regulation", "Revisions" to rules will ensue within a month or so...

                                                                            Affecting many companies.
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                                                                              • JFK
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                                                                                • Jan 2002
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                                                                                #120
                                                                                Originally posted by Nicky
                                                                                This thread is making me shit my pants
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                                                                                  • DeanCapture
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                                                                                    #121
                                                                                    Originally posted by JFK
                                                                                    Try "Depends"
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                                                                                      • Shap
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                                                                                        • May 2001
                                                                                        • 8313
                                                                                        #122
                                                                                        Originally posted by greenlab
                                                                                        Most of you dont know the real deal behind Epassporte...
                                                                                        Did you ever wonder why everytime someone from epass was posting in threads, they claimed that epassporte has hundred of thousends of users....definetlly not all of them are webmasters

                                                                                        The main scope of existence of epassporte is the issuing of debit cards for chargeback ballancing. It worked like this till now...every %x member that signed up trough paycom (or other processors) for a site membership, were given an epassporte Gift card. It works like this...paycom is giving you a membership to site xxxx for free, as long as you are a member of site yyyyy. In order to process your membership for site xxxx, we are giving you an epass Virtual Visa Gift card. The membership costs 29.99$/month, however, paycom will make sure that the 29.99$ will be deposited everymonth onto your visa gift card.
                                                                                        Actually paycom/epass were crediting your epass visa gift card with 29.99$ every month, and then in 30 secs, they were billing the card though one of designated merchant account, with a cost of just the processing fee (discount rate). By billing hubdreds of thouseds of cards like this, there is now wandering why their chargeback ratio si very low, and they still allow cross sales without any problems...(have seen sites with 2 pre checked crossales).

                                                                                        So this is the biggest reason for epassporte to exist, and this is why it was created...the issuing of plastic debit cards and affiliate/webmaster payments are done just to make epassporte look compliant in the eyes of Visa, as this gets lots of $$$$ volume and they can claim that the main purphose of their service is not the issuing of "gift cards" - and that they are actually a 100% legitimate issuer....

                                                                                        now think for a second...do you think that there are more that 10.000 webmasters that get payments by epassporte ? There is a huge distance to the hundreds of thousents cards that epassporte is claiming they have issued...(and they are telling the truth here). The rest are just "Gift Cards".....and they are trying to offset this by the funds that get moved by affiliate programs and the use of debit cards for widthrawal in all countryes arround the world...

                                                                                        However, thay have gone too far and visa is getting quite close on them....

                                                                                        The trick is somewhat similat to what ibill does with gkard, but the Epassporte trick is much more stable and intellingent...
                                                                                        Being someone that has stayed away from Paycom as a primary processor this is news to me. Interesting and this seems to mean that Epass and Paycom splitting is bad news for Paycom as their chargebacks are going to be on the rise and most likely trouble soon. Is that right?

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                                                                                          • rowan
                                                                                            Too lazy to set a custom title
                                                                                            • Mar 2002
                                                                                            • 17393
                                                                                            #123
                                                                                            Originally posted by AlienQ
                                                                                            My question is simply.

                                                                                            Will the event inflate charge backs at PAYCOM?

                                                                                            If The scenerio is correct then PAYCOM stands to be in some deep shit with Charge Backs.

                                                                                            Epass collapses chasing mainstream down or succeeds, PayCom burns to death in Chargebacks.

                                                                                            Those are the only scenerio's that can play out.
                                                                                            Visa may also decide to clamp down on money laundering arrangements. The gift account scheme doesn't really seem ethical to me.

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                                                                                              • Shap
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                                                                                                • May 2001
                                                                                                • 8313
                                                                                                #124
                                                                                                Originally posted by AlienQ
                                                                                                A better question would be...

                                                                                                Who will survive.
                                                                                                I agree. Surprisingly from the facts in this thread i'd put my money on Epassporte.

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                                                                                                  • AlienQ - BANNED FOR LIFE
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                                                                                                    • Mar 2003
                                                                                                    • 30307
                                                                                                    #125
                                                                                                    Thats the fastest translation Shap.

                                                                                                    Its not good news for either company obvisously and what Green is saying makes perfect sense.

                                                                                                    Maybe its all horse shit and just speculation but damned if it makes complete sense then the obvious is about to happen.

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                                                                                                      • shaliza
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                                                                                                        • Dec 2002
                                                                                                        • 548
                                                                                                        #126
                                                                                                        Originally posted by Quick Buck
                                                                                                        Epass & Paycom are seperate companies. I don't see why this would affect webmaster payments.

                                                                                                        We will be carrying on business as usual, paying weekly by epassporte and even still paying by paypal
                                                                                                        I couldn't have said it better.

                                                                                                        Chris is traveling but I have made him aware of this thread and he will be posting as soon as he gets to a computer.


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                                                                                                          • andrej_NDC
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                                                                                                            • May 2004
                                                                                                            • 7760
                                                                                                            #127
                                                                                                            I have said it once and will say it again, I just love ccbill.

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                                                                                                              • Shap
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                                                                                                                • May 2001
                                                                                                                • 8313
                                                                                                                #128
                                                                                                                Originally posted by AlienQ
                                                                                                                Thats the fastest translation Shap.

                                                                                                                Its not good news for either company obvisously and what Green is saying makes perfect sense.

                                                                                                                Maybe its all horse shit and just speculation but damned if it makes complete sense then the obvious is about to happen.
                                                                                                                Yeah, and seeing the people that agreed and saw what green saw this can't be good news.

                                                                                                                As a person that tries to do research and discuss business with other companies it has always amazed me that paycom (not so much now but definitely 2 years ago) was able to run wild with alot of practises that were deemed CB dangerous. Green's reply has explained alot of the questions I had. It explains things I was hoping I was wrong.

                                                                                                                I hope everybody makes it thru. As I said at the beginning of the thread I do big $$$ with both companies in many ways. We all need to hope for the best.

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                                                                                                                  • AlienQ - BANNED FOR LIFE
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                                                                                                                    • Mar 2003
                                                                                                                    • 30307
                                                                                                                    #129
                                                                                                                    Just to add to the conspiracy theory...

                                                                                                                    Obviously the Harmony whether Mallick and Paycom got along at all is irrelevant. Visa must had given new revisions for it to happen.

                                                                                                                    So I think fact can be said that Visa transactions will be altered in some way and in everyones mind within a few weeks if not less.

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                                                                                                                      • Shap
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                                                                                                                        • May 2001
                                                                                                                        • 8313
                                                                                                                        #130
                                                                                                                        I think it's safe to say this thread got real interesting the second Greenlab posted. It appears everything he posted is true and if it is I can't see how Paycom will come out of this without getting hit hard.

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                                                                                                                          • AlienQ - BANNED FOR LIFE
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                                                                                                                            • Mar 2003
                                                                                                                            • 30307
                                                                                                                            #131
                                                                                                                            Originally posted by andrej_NDC
                                                                                                                            I have said it once and will say it again, I just love ccbill.
                                                                                                                            When Visa swings its hand it affects all transactions providers.

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                                                                                                                              • Shap
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                                                                                                                                • May 2001
                                                                                                                                • 8313
                                                                                                                                #132
                                                                                                                                Originally posted by AlienQ
                                                                                                                                When Visa swings its hand it affects all transactions providers.
                                                                                                                                Especially if any big companies jump from Paycom to ccbill. If big paysites make that jump Andre and us will lose while ccbill gains.

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                                                                                                                                  • andrej_NDC
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                                                                                                                                    • May 2004
                                                                                                                                    • 7760
                                                                                                                                    #133
                                                                                                                                    Originally posted by shap
                                                                                                                                    Especially if any big companies jump from Paycom to ccbill. If big paysites make that jump Andre and us will lose while ccbill gains.
                                                                                                                                    how do you think would we lose?

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                                                                                                                                      • Shap
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                                                                                                                                        • May 2001
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                                                                                                                                        #134
                                                                                                                                        I had an interesting talk with a big well known webmaster at internext regarding paycom. One thing we both questioned was how a company as successful as paycom could make the money they've made and not make a SINGLE improvement to their stats interface in more than 6 years. From the looks of it (on our end) Paycom has re-invested little back into their business in the last few years.
                                                                                                                                        Why would a company as successful as paycom not try to improve their product? Or at least their interface in 6 years?
                                                                                                                                        Why Did they let their big gun and industry face Chris Mallick leave?
                                                                                                                                        How does it happen that an employee like Amparo with many clients that depend on her leaves the company and her clients are left in limbo with no sales rep for months?

                                                                                                                                        From my point of view paycom has been cashing checks and not looking towards the future but looking to milk this baby as hard as they can today. I know Rand and Clay are smart wealthy guys and I don't know what goes on behind closed doors. This is just how it appears to alot of us paysite webmasters.

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                                                                                                                                          • Shap
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                                                                                                                                            • May 2001
                                                                                                                                            • 8313
                                                                                                                                            #135
                                                                                                                                            Originally posted by andrej_NDC
                                                                                                                                            how do you think would we lose?
                                                                                                                                            When a processing company brings on a large client many changes occur that usually result in other clients suffering. Especially if the rebills are moved over. If the rebills are moved they know there will be an increase in CB from that and will tighten the scrub across the board to secure the company's future. It sucks but it allows them to stay in business. I'm sure KimmyKim and some other processing people could explain it better than I could. I've had it explained to me in the past and it made perfect sense.

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                                                                                                                                              • andrej_NDC
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                                                                                                                                                • May 2004
                                                                                                                                                • 7760
                                                                                                                                                #136
                                                                                                                                                Originally posted by shap
                                                                                                                                                I had an interesting talk with a big well known webmaster at internext regarding paycom. One thing we both questioned was how a company as successful as paycom could make the money they've made and not make a SINGLE improvement to their stats interface in more than 6 years. From the looks of it (on our end) Paycom has re-invested little back into their business in the last few years.
                                                                                                                                                Why would a company as successful as paycom not try to improve their product? Or at least their interface in 6 years?
                                                                                                                                                Why Did they let their big gun and industry face Chris Mallick leave?
                                                                                                                                                How does it happen that an employee like Amparo with many clients that depend on her leaves the company and her clients are left in limbo with no sales rep for months?

                                                                                                                                                From my point of view paycom has been cashing checks and not looking towards the future but looking to milk this baby as hard as they can today. I know Rand and Clay are smart wealthy guys and I don't know what goes on behind closed doors. This is just how it appears to alot of us paysite webmasters.
                                                                                                                                                Im thinking about the same. And dont forget 24/7 email support like ccbill offers. They reply within minutes and paycom isnt able to reply within days sometimes. Thats why I stayed away from ibill btw, because of the lack of support.

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                                                                                                                                                  • andrej_NDC
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                                                                                                                                                    • May 2004
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                                                                                                                                                    #137
                                                                                                                                                    Originally posted by shap
                                                                                                                                                    When a processing company brings on a large client many changes occur that usually result in other clients suffering. Especially if the rebills are moved over. If the rebills are moved they know there will be an increase in CB from that and will tighten the scrub across the board to secure the company's future. It sucks but it allows them to stay in business. I'm sure KimmyKim and some other processing people could explain it better than I could. I've had it explained to me in the past and it made perfect sense.
                                                                                                                                                    But ccbill doesnt allow pre-checked cross sales, etc...They look more towards the future and did so the past few years. So even with more clients, they will have less problems like epoch would have in the same situation.

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                                                                                                                                                      • Theo
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                                                                                                                                                        • May 2001
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                                                                                                                                                        #138
                                                                                                                                                        guess which processing co. spammed us 2 days ago offering processing

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                                                                                                                                                          • Shap
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                                                                                                                                                            • May 2001
                                                                                                                                                            • 8313
                                                                                                                                                            #139
                                                                                                                                                            Originally posted by andrej_NDC
                                                                                                                                                            Im thinking about the same. And dont forget 24/7 email support like ccbill offers. They reply within minutes and paycom isnt able to reply within days sometimes. Thats why I stayed away from ibill btw, because of the lack of support.
                                                                                                                                                            Yeah I forgot about that. I haven't seen anything from Paycom to indicate they have any long term plans in our industry. They seem content making big profits and making as much today as possible.

                                                                                                                                                            Alot of people like and respect Chris Mallick and viewed his departure as the beginning of an interesting period for Paycom.

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                                                                                                                                                              • Shap
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                                                                                                                                                                • 8313
                                                                                                                                                                #140
                                                                                                                                                                Originally posted by andrej_NDC
                                                                                                                                                                But ccbill doesnt allow pre-checked cross sales, etc...They look more towards the future and did so the past few years. So even with more clients, they will have less problems like epoch would have in the same situation.
                                                                                                                                                                I agree 100%. I think the hit to other customers comes during the adjustment period of the new client's sales etc.

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                                                                                                                                                                  • Rui
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                                                                                                                                                                    • Dec 2001
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                                                                                                                                                                    #141
                                                                                                                                                                    Originally posted by pocketkangaroo
                                                                                                                                                                    I don't see why they'd drop adult. Adult is a nice niche that they can dominate for years. Everyone acts like it will be easy to cut into Paypal's market share. Good luck with that, Paypal has a great system, better rates, better customer service, and already a huge stranglehold on the market. I think the best way to expand is to maximize areas that Paypal can't touch.
                                                                                                                                                                    Thats what I think also, but who knows rigth...

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                                                                                                                                                                      • Jace
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                                                                                                                                                                        • Jan 2004
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                                                                                                                                                                        #142
                                                                                                                                                                        this thread is one of the most enlightening threads on GFY in a long fucking time...anyone who doesn't read every single post is an idiot....

                                                                                                                                                                        my head is CHURNING with conspiracy theory type thought right now...LOL

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                                                                                                                                                                          • Shap
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                                                                                                                                                                            #143
                                                                                                                                                                            Originally posted by Jace
                                                                                                                                                                            this thread is one of the most enlightening threads on GFY in a long fucking time...anyone who doesn't read every single post is an idiot....

                                                                                                                                                                            my head is CHURNING with conspiracy theory type thought right now...LOL
                                                                                                                                                                            No shit. Especially for those that have wondered how the hell Paycom was able to keep their cb's under 1%. I really hope this becomes a thread about how things WERE done and not a thread that is the beginning of something worse.

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                                                                                                                                                                              • DeanCapture
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                                                                                                                                                                                #144
                                                                                                                                                                                Shit - all this is too confusing for me to understand...I'm just gonna stick to taking pictures
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                                                                                                                                                                                  • Tom_PM
                                                                                                                                                                                    Porn Meister
                                                                                                                                                                                    • Feb 2005
                                                                                                                                                                                    • 16443
                                                                                                                                                                                    #145
                                                                                                                                                                                    Well if it was only cross sales, then thats 50% of transactions if it was single pre-checked cross sales (assuming 100% join forms w/1 cross), correct?

                                                                                                                                                                                    If thats the case, then CB ratios would still be the same without them, or what did I miss? In other words, the original transacton ratio still must be kept below 1% irregardless.

                                                                                                                                                                                    I have a touch of fever so maybe missed some stuff here.
                                                                                                                                                                                    43-922-863 Shut up and play your guitar.

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                                                                                                                                                                                      • Shap
                                                                                                                                                                                        Confirmed User
                                                                                                                                                                                        • May 2001
                                                                                                                                                                                        • 8313
                                                                                                                                                                                        #146
                                                                                                                                                                                        Originally posted by Furious_Male
                                                                                                                                                                                        I am concerned as an affiliate that has a decent amount of funds going through the epassporte system on a monthly basis.

                                                                                                                                                                                        I just don't know what to say or think at this time. Some sort of official response from epassporte would be real nice.
                                                                                                                                                                                        Actually i think, from interesting turn this thread took, a response from Epassporte isn't as important as how will paycom deal with CBs if they were running a decent amount of them thru Epassporte.

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                                                                                                                                                                                          • andrej_NDC
                                                                                                                                                                                            Registered User
                                                                                                                                                                                            • May 2004
                                                                                                                                                                                            • 7760
                                                                                                                                                                                            #147
                                                                                                                                                                                            Originally posted by PR_Tom
                                                                                                                                                                                            Well if it was only cross sales, then thats 50% of transactions if it was single pre-checked cross sales (assuming 100% join forms w/1 cross), correct?

                                                                                                                                                                                            If thats the case, then CB ratios would still be the same without them, or what did I miss? In other words, the original transacton ratio still must be kept below 1% irregardless.

                                                                                                                                                                                            I have a touch of fever so maybe missed some stuff here.
                                                                                                                                                                                            every transaction is counted, new, xsell, rebill...

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                                                                                                                                                                                              • Rui
                                                                                                                                                                                                web
                                                                                                                                                                                                • Dec 2001
                                                                                                                                                                                                • 9533
                                                                                                                                                                                                #148
                                                                                                                                                                                                Don't think I will be able to sleep well after the info (true or not) posted in this thread....

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                                                                                                                                                                                                  • Theo
                                                                                                                                                                                                    HAL 9000
                                                                                                                                                                                                    • May 2001
                                                                                                                                                                                                    • 34515
                                                                                                                                                                                                    #149
                                                                                                                                                                                                    I could fuel these worries by stating some further facts few people know, but since it involves more than one companies I won't. I don't believe epoch is in danger, but I predict extra urgent measurements for the CB issues. I believed that before reading the role of eppasporte in the past, imagine now.

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                                                                                                                                                                                                      • Tom_PM
                                                                                                                                                                                                        Porn Meister
                                                                                                                                                                                                        • Feb 2005
                                                                                                                                                                                                        • 16443
                                                                                                                                                                                                        #150
                                                                                                                                                                                                        Originally posted by andrej_NDC
                                                                                                                                                                                                        every transaction is counted, new, xsell, rebill...
                                                                                                                                                                                                        ok, so the assumption for people worrying about CB ratios is that larger than 50% of all transactions scored towards CB levels were from gift cards?

                                                                                                                                                                                                        hmm. Anyway, it's an interesting thread and will keep checking back. Super Bowl coin toss in progress..
                                                                                                                                                                                                        43-922-863 Shut up and play your guitar.

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