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How many stolen passwords should one leave for a $1700.00 dinner bill?
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Bad tippers are the worst ever! I waited tables right out of high school, and it seemed the worst tipping day was the Sunday after church lunch crowd. I suppose they gave too much of their money to the church.
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Hear that? That's the world's smallest violin playing for all the waitressesComment
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Actually, I recall SEVERAL threads that are related to "tipping" since I joined GFY in 2005. This is definitely not a first. I really wonder if anyone has learned anything since then. People are saying the same erroneus things as they did in the other threads. I bet the same people posted in the previous threads about tipping too, and still have not changed.Comment
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Bingo. You're probably one of the very few people who posted in this thread who actually has a clue. I think it is less than $3 dollars an hour for waiters around here. I would like to see how long some of these people would last as a waiter. I bet most wouldn't last more than a day.Last edited by Walrus; 11-14-2007, 12:02 AM.Comment
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They chose poorly.
Ideally you pick a job, even a part time job that has a pay rate that is typically higher than what a hard working illegal can make in the field. Hell even the illegals know that they can go commission and get per bushel or ton and then send out the family.Comment
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Well for most it isn't a poor choice. Good waiters still can make decent money, even if the hourly is $2.13. While I made tables for instance, I was making anywhere from $500-$800 a week. That is between $15 and $20 an hour. It does suck however when you never even get a paycheck at all, because it all goes to taxes. It isn't uncommon where the pay is low for a server to go in, and not even have a paycheck. To make up for that, some server take a shift or 2 a week as a host, so that they don't end up owing the tax man money. While I don't think most servers should have a base pay of $8-10 an hour, I do think that minimum wage is only fair.
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Just for whining about what you did get, next time you get nothing.
karmas a bitch!!.
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Arguing with a troll is a lot like wrestling in the mud with a pig, after a couple of hours you realize the pig likes it.Comment
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A good waiter, bartender, chauffeur, etc. doesn't dislike the overall pay. They can make VERY good money with the right company. We are talking about "why" one should tip here. 15% isn't a lot to ask for a minimum tip if the service was average.
You're beginning to sound like Mr. Pink in "Reservoir Dogs."
Some of you are just plain ignorant. If you don't understand the concept of tipping by now, you will never understand. You were probably brought up as a child with the "I don't believe in tipping" belief and continue with it as an adult.Last edited by Walrus; 11-14-2007, 01:48 AM.Comment
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Why is this here? I am lostComment
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Tipping is part of the cost of going out to eat, it's assumed that most people realize this and accept it... it's why servers are paid far below minimum wage, around $2/hour in some places. When you stiff a server that's given you decent/good service, you're not only being a gigantic douche, you've also wasted his time (he could have been serving a table that would have actually paid him). If someone has given you shitty service, by all means, complain, get your food comped, leave a lousy tip... but stiffing someone who actually worked for you is just fucked up.
Servers are paid to serve you, yes, but most of their paycheck is supposed to come from the customer, not the restaurant. It's shitty, but it's how it is. By not tipping, they're essentially not getting paid for the work they just did.
Bonus fact: when you dine and dash, the server has to pay for your meal out of his tips. Most of the time the restaurant will not cover his ass. It always drove me crazy to see some suburban rich fuck decide he was entitled to a free meal, while the broke college kid who had the shit luck of having to serve him ended up paying for it.
For those of you whining that the servers should've picked another job, they took the job with the expectation/promise of tips. Most people realize that tipping is part of the experience, so this is a realistic expectation. It's just the ignorant assholes who apparently need to learn how to budget properly if they can't afford a 20% tip who fuck shit up.
If you understand all this and still screw over good servers, you've just been promoted to Captain Douchebag.
Bottom line: If you don't want to tip, go to a fucking buffet.Give me money & buy my links here, damn it!Comment
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I always tip well for good service
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You took a risk by taking off the automatic 20%. It didn't work out in your favor, you made a bad decision...get on with it and charge the 20% next time this guy comes in. Now...back to porn...Comment
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Why should even give a fuck how much tip you get at the end of the night for yourself ?
20 % is a great tip already... If you get it off the bill, your problem.Originally posted by rayadp05Comment
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I totally understand the concept of tipping and how important it is for the person getting tipped. I always tip very well.
However, I fucking hate it.
Why should some people get tip and other don't ? Why shouldn't we tip 15 % to the people serving us in a store ?
Why can't the fucking boss charge 15% more on everything and just pay it to the fucking employes.Originally posted by rayadp05Comment
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Having been in your shoes years ago.. we called that "Rolling the dice" sometimes you win.. in this case you lost! Next time.. remember.. a Bird in the hand is worth 2 in the Bush
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For those of you that dont like to tip.. or think that its an option. That tip is designed to be factored into the wage of the wait-staff/Bartender. Its why they make below minimum wage.
Tips is an acronym for "To insure prompt service" If you think that getting rid of that system is a great idea. They will just build that into the cost of the food and take that discressionary cost out of your hands. Then you get to deal with a server that may or may not give you the best service possible as they get paid the same regardless, go into a Home Depot and see what kind of service you get out of those guys! ( no tips, no motivation) But either way.. you will still have to pay the same amount.Rich"at"rebel-ads.com
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Forcing your employees to rattle their beggars cup by paying them abysmally low wages should be a crime.
This is precisely why I get pissed at restaurant owners. They are the ones who arent paying you what you're worth!! THEY are the ones who DO have absolutely EVERY idea how hard it is to wait on people hand and foot, and DESPITE that knowledge they continue to abuse you and the customer! lmaoServing tables was helping pay my rent during college. There is a lot of money in it. You guys have absolutely no idea how hard it is to wait tables and deal with people who believe you should wait on them hand and foot.
You see it's politics/business done perfectly. Get the people you underpay to be pissed at the people who are there to pay you. The house always wins.43-922-863 Shut up and play your guitar.
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Maybe he didn't want to tip you because you're a complete asshole?Comment
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I tip well when warranted.
If you do not get me my refill before I have to ask. You loose points on the tip-o-meter.
If there is a hold up on my food, and whether your fault or not, you do not stop by to tell me there will be a delay or why. You loose points on the tip-o-meter.
If I have to ask you for anything during the course of my meal that should be common knowledge. You loose points on the tip-o-meter.
If everyone else in the restaurant brings me my food, refills my drinks, and all you did was take my order. You loose points on the tip-o-meter.
If I sit down, and you do not at least stop by, say hi, bring menus, water, etc in the first 5 minutes. You loose points on the tip-o-meter.
I tip when it warrants. If you give shitty service. You get shity tip.
The end.
I love when I hear people complain about bad tips, and yet they are always in the back telling their latest stories with their co-workers. My sister worked at a place, and would tell me a lot of the stories. I knew some of the waitresses by name there, and when I would hear about how some never made good tips. I would be like, "Well tell so and so next time to get people their soup when it's hot. Or their refills without having to ask... etc"
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But how often do you go to an establishment other than a restaurant and that is non commission based and get service that goes above and beyond?
Besides if the restaurant wants the best in service staff.. they will pay for it.. and guess who gets stuck with the bill... The patron and you are right back where we started
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being nice doesn't always work.Each persons' level of stupidity makes us different.Comment
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if i bring a party of 8, im assuming the tip is already added. i've never known a restaurant that didnt automatically add the tip for a party of 8... be it 15% or 20%.. i'm a decent tipper and will normally add another 10-15%.
removing the auto gratuity was really dumb and greedy.. if you left it on, he couldve still gave you more dipshit.
i'd tell you to gfy but sounds like you already did.
hope it felt reaaaaaaaaaaal goooooooooood.
just last week i paid pizza hut delivery boy $35 in quarters.. (the bill was $27). i let him keep the plastic tub i put them in as an added tip. .. i had called them and told them i only had a $100 and bring change and instead of just saying "ok" which is really all i want to hear when i tell someone what to do, they said he didnt have change and could i just give him the $100 and he'd go get change.
um no
now you got change mo.
as long as you learn from it, just move on.
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bartenders are the ones raking it in, but its a double edge sword, you get in young, make good money and before you know it, your a 60 year old bartender that has accomplished nothing and look 95 from the rough lifestyle.Comment
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the last 3 out of 4 times i've gone to a nice place here in l.a. to eat the service was terrible. it reflected in the tip.
serving is a dying art. no one gives a shit anymore. everyone in hollywood wants to be an actor and could care less about you or your steak.
if you're a good waiter, you'd get a good tip from me, but its not a guaranteed thing. tips are given accordingly. if i get excellent service i will tip sometimes over 30%. if its bad. i will normally write 1.00 on there with a
face so they know that they suck bad. (thats in the cases where they dont blame the kitchen, which is common). if they project terrible attitude and service level, you shouldn't be a waiter.
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You could have saved time with that whole story and just put "I am an idiot".Comment
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lol @ everyone who thinks if you don't tip you're a douchebag and that tipping is expected
EXACTLY THATS THE PROBLEM, its not required, if i don't tip you, im not gonna get arrested, so shut the fuck up with all that crap.Comment
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I understand not wanting to reward bad service, but it's still service - and if you don't leave the waiter at least 8%, you're possibly putting him/her in a position where he/she has to pay out-of-pocket in order to serve you.
And that's buying a shitload of bad karma, imho.
If you don't like the level of service, leave 10-15%, and let the manager know... if he/she doesn't satisfy you - never go back.
Proper tipping's a reflection of one's level of class, I think.
Staying at home and cooking for and serving yourself is always an option.
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I thought this thread was about Tipper "Second Helpings" Gore:
Anyway, here is what I think is the definitive debate about tipping (from Reservoir Dogs):
NOTE: Yeah, I know Steve Buscemi was Mr. Pink. Tarantino originally wrote the no-tipping dialog for Mr. White (Harvey Keitel). In the end, Buscemi did a great scene.NICE GUY EDDIE
Okay, everybody cough up green for
the little lady.
Everybody whips out a buck, and throws it on the table.
Everybody, that is, except Mr. White.
NICE GUY EDDIE
C'mon, throw in a buck.
MR. WHITE
Uh-uh. I don't tip.
NICE GUY EDDIE
Whaddaya mean you don't tip?
MR. WHITE
I don't believe in it.
NICE GUY EDDIE
You don't believe in tipping?
MR. PINK
(laughing)
I love this kid, he's a madman,
this guy.
MR. BLONDE
Do you have any idea what these
ladies make? They make shit.
MR. WHITE
Don't give me that. She don't
make enough money, she can quit.
Everybody laughs.
NICE GUY EDDIE
I don't even know a Jew who'd have
the balls to say that. So let's
get this straight. You never ever
tip?
MR. WHITE
I don't tip because society says I
gotta. I tip when somebody
deserves a tip. When somebody
really puts forth an effort, they
deserve a little something extra.
But this tipping automatically,
that shit's for the birds. As far
as I'm concerned, they're just
doin their job.
MR. BLUE
Our girl was nice.
MR. WHITE
Our girl was okay. She didn't do
anything special.
MR. BLONDE
What's something special, take ya
in the kitchen and suck your dick?
They all laugh.
NICE GUY EDDIE
I'd go over twelve percent for
that.
MR. WRITE
Look, I ordered coffee. Now we've
been here a long fuckin time, and
she's only filled my cup three
times. When I order coffee, I
want it filled six times.
MR. BLONDE
What if she's too busy?
MR. WHITE
The words "too busy" shouldn't be
in a waitress's vocabulary.
NICE GUY EDDIE
Excuse me, Mr. White, but the last
thing you need is another cup of
coffee.
They all laugh.
MR. WHITE
These ladies aren't starvin to
death. They make minimum wage.
When I worked for minimum wage, I
wasn't lucky enough to have a job
that society deemed tipworthy.
NICE GUY EDDIE
Ahh, now we're getting down to it.
It's not just that he's a cheap
bastard--
MR. ORANGE
--It is that too--
NICE GUY EDDIE
--It is that too. But it's also
he couldn't get a waiter job. You
talk like a pissed off dishwasher:
"Fuck those cunts and their
fucking tips."
MR. BLONDE
So you don't care that they're
counting on your tip to live?
Mr. White rubs two of his fingers together.
MR. WHITE
Do you know what this is? It's
the world's smallest violin,
playing just for the waitresses.
MR. BLONDE
You don't have any idea what
you're talking about. These
people bust their ass. This
is a hard job.
MR. WHITE
So's working at McDonald's, but
you don't feel the need to tip
them. They're servin ya food, you
should tip em. But no, society
says tip these guys over here, but
not those guys over there. That's
bullshit.
MR. ORANGE
They work harder than the kids at
McDonald's.
MR. WHITE
Oh yeah, I don't see them cleaning
fryers.
MR. BROWN
These people are taxed on the tips
they make. When you stiff 'em,
you cost them money.
MR. BLONDE
Waitressing is the number one
occupation for female non-college
graduates in this country. It's
the one jab basically any woman
can get, and make a living on.
The reason is because of tips.
MR. WHITE
Fuck all that.
They all laugh.
MR. WHITE
Hey, I'm very sorry that the
government taxes their tips.
That's fucked up. But that ain't
my fault. it would appear that
waitresses are just one of the
many groups the government fucks
in the ass on a regular basis.
You show me a paper says the
government shouldn't do that, I'll
sign it. Put it to a vote, I'll
vote for it. But what I won't do
is play ball. And this non-
college bullshit you're telling
me, I got two words for that:
"Learn to fuckin type." Cause if
you're expecting me to help out
with the rent, you're in for a big
fuckin surprise.
MR. ORANGE
He's convinced me. Give me my
dollar back.
Everybody laughs. Joe's comes back to the table.
JOE
Okay ramblers, let's get to
rambling. Wait a minute, who
didn't throw in?
MR. ORANGE
Mr. White.
JOE
(to Mr. Orange)
Mr. White?
(to Mr. White)
Why?
MR. ORANGE
He don't tip.
JOE
(to Mr. Orange)
He don't tip?
(to Mr. White)
You don't tip? Why?
MR. ORANGE
He don't believe in it.
JOE
(to Mr. Orange)
He don't believe in it?
(to Mr. White)
You don't believe in it?
MR. ORANGE
Nope.
JOE
(to Mr. Orange)
Shut up!
(to Mr. White)
Cough up the buck, ya cheap
bastard, I paid for your goddamn
breakfast.
MR. WHITE
Because you paid for the
breakfast, I'm gonna tip.
Normally I wouldn't.
JOE
Whatever. Just throw in your
dollar, and let's move.
(to Mr. Blonde)
See what I'm dealing with here.
Infants. I'm fuckin dealin with
infants.
The eight men get up to leave. Mr. White's waist is in
the F.G. As he buttons his coat, for a second we see he's
carrying a gun. They exit Uncle Bob's Pancake House,
talking amongst themselves.
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why is it so hard to grasp the fact that the menu shows the prices of what you are paying for.I understand not wanting to reward bad service, but it's still service - and if you don't leave the waiter at least 8%, you're possibly putting him/her in a position where he/she has to pay out-of-pocket in order to serve you.
And that's buying a shitload of bad karma, imho.
If you don't like the level of service, leave 10-15%, and let the manager know... if he/she doesn't satisfy you - never go back.
Proper tipping's a reflection of one's level of class, I think.
Staying at home and cooking for and serving yourself is always an option.
the waiter is the person paid to be there, take your order and bring it to you.
tipping is not an obligation of the customer.
if i MUST tip the waiter just for being there or just for doing their job... why don't i also have the option of going to get my food myself? or placing the order myself? or grabbing a fucking menu and some water the second i walk in the goddamned door?
what the fuck is wrong with you people?????
TIPS are REWARDS for GOOD service.
tips aren't given to reward someone for just happening to be there and doing their job poorly.
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the other 8% you were shorted equals 128.00 divided by two is 64.00 - the other tip outs you need to accomplish equals about another whopping whole 30 bucks maybe.Comment
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Threads like this make it easy to separate the scumbag assholes from the civilized people.gone. long gone.
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