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  • KrisKross
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    • Jan 2006
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    #1

    Modelling for a solo site... need some advice.

    A friend of mine was recently offered a job posing for a solo site. The offer was made by a company which already runs five other sites that have been around for a year.

    They offered her $200 cash per month, plus 25% of the profit the site makes. She'd have to pose for 5-6 sets and 2 videos a month as well as make a few journal entries.

    I figure if the site charges $20 per month, after you take away the affiliate's cut, the processor's cut, hosting, etc, it leaves about $6-$7 per signup as profit. That gives her about $1.50 - $1.75 per signup . Say 100 signups a month, that's about $350 a month she makes in all. Is this fair/decent pay? Is this a somewhat standard pay, or is it high or low?

    Can anyone here (preferably some program owners) offer some advice or suggestions? My knowledge of the industry doesn't extend much past story writing and gallery work, so I'd love to hear from some people more in the know.

    Thank you so very much.
    [Kris]
  • jawanda
    Confirmed User
    • Feb 2003
    • 6040

    #2
    I don't know what the average payout to solo site models is, but if the people promoting the site know what they're doing, or even better if it's part of an established affiliate program, she should end up doing WAY more than 100 sales per month after a few months with rebills.

    Can you tell us the company that approached her?



    -P

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    • Mr.Right - Banned For Life
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      #3
      Thread needs pics.

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      • KrisKross
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        • Jan 2006
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        #4
        Originally posted by jawanda
        I don't know what the average payout to solo site models is, but if the people promoting the site know what they're doing, or even better if it's part of an established affiliate program, she should end up doing WAY more than 100 sales per month after a few months with rebills.

        Can you tell us the company that approached her?



        -P
        Hey, thanks for your opinion. I suppose she should discuss with the company how their current sites are doing. To be perfectly honest, I'm not quite sure how large/successful they are.

        Unfortunately, I promised not to divulge the company's name.

        If anyone else has an opinion or advice but would rather talk to me in private, my email address is [email protected].

        Thanks again

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        • BrettJ
          ol' timer
          • Jan 2001
          • 4715

          #5
          that's an okay offer. the devil of course is in the details... they are both taking a risk. obviously if the program is tooo small, she won't make the money on the %. But a small program can't really afford to pay out that much ...and so they are going to be offering out that percentage as a way to entice her into the deal. If she's the next Allison Angel, Tawnee, Tiffany... etc... she's going to be very happy with the 25% ... some models may make more than that. Some make much less.

          But in the end..6 pic sets and 2 vids is going to take about 3 hours of her life. tack on a couple journal entries and you're at 3 hours and 20 minutes. so even if she's just making that $550/mnth... that's fair compensation for the little work she's having to do. Will she be able to live off solely that income, not in the US, so hopefully the program can send more than 3 joins a day.

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          • C_U_Next_Tuesday
            WW4L
            • Oct 2002
            • 10581

            #6
            Originally posted by BrettJ
            that's an okay offer. the devil of course is in the details... they are both taking a risk. obviously if the program is tooo small, she won't make the money on the %. But a small program can't really afford to pay out that much ...and so they are going to be offering out that percentage as a way to entice her into the deal. If she's the next Allison Angel, Tawnee, Tiffany... etc... she's going to be very happy with the 25% ... some models may make more than that. Some make much less.

            But in the end..6 pic sets and 2 vids is going to take about 3 hours of her life. tack on a couple journal entries and you're at 3 hours and 20 minutes. so even if she's just making that $550/mnth... that's fair compensation for the little work she's having to do. Will she be able to live off solely that income, not in the US, so hopefully the program can send more than 3 joins a day.

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            • Kinky John
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              • Sep 2005
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              #7
              5-6 sets and 2 vids seems a lot for only 200 p/m guaranteed basic

              If the sales are good and the program is honest then it could be worthwhile

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              • Wizzo
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                #8
                I think she should talk to me about Mayor'sMoney, since we have been around for 10 years instead of 1, before accepting that deal!
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                • IWantU_Jeff
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                  • Nov 2005
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                  #9
                  Not a program owner or anything like that, but just from reading other threads.. it seems alright to me. She wont really be spending that much time on the pic sets & video..probably a few hours (someone that know can correct me if Im wrong) & then journal entries is a couple of minutes.. say what another 30min or so in all.. so add that up your looking at what maybe 4 or 5 hours tops?? a month & shes getting $200/month plus whatever %..if she does well it will payoff for her...
                  Again this is going from what Ive read in threads here before.. good luck to you & your friend though in your choice.. hope some the other guys that probably "know" can help you out better!
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                  • KrisKross
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                    • Jan 2006
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                    #10
                    Again, thanks for the opinions, everybody. I really appreciate.

                    You guys are right. For the amount of work that she'd be doing (just a few hours a month), she'd be making decent money. Sure she's not going to be able to do this full time (unless business gets really good) but it'll make nice money, I'm sure.

                    Wizzo, if you're being serious, is there a way I or she can contact you? My email address is above.

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                    • DutchTeenCash
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                      • Feb 2003
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                      #11
                      Its not that much work so $200 basic isnt that bad. Like Brett said, 25% for Dormbucks is a whole lotta different then for neverheardofbeforecash.geocities.cox

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                      • Wizzo
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                        #12
                        Originally posted by KrisKross
                        Again, thanks for the opinions, everybody. I really appreciate.

                        You guys are right. For the amount of work that she'd be doing (just a few hours a month), she'd be making decent money. Sure she's not going to be able to do this full time (unless business gets really good) but it'll make nice money, I'm sure.

                        Wizzo, if you're being serious, is there a way I or she can contact you? My email address is above.
                        I am serious, she can email me at jimmy at mayorsmoney.com, ICQ is in sig, phone is 832-563-4201, or my yahoo is j1mmyjames69
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                        • Lace
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                          #13
                          Originally posted by Wizzo
                          I think she should talk to me about Mayor'sMoney, since we have been around for 10 years instead of 1, before accepting that deal!
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                          • Barefootsies
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                            • Feb 2005
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                            #14
                            For the amount of time she is being asked to do, and the trade off, I would say it's fair.

                            However, I think she could make a lot more money. There are plenty of things not factored in your formula shown above, such as DVD, and vid clip single sales, and so on.

                            There is a lot of money on the table, not being discussed in their offer. Maybe they do not do it, and that's why. Otherwise it would seem she takes no part in those revenue streams.

                            I would shop around a bit.

                            Just my
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                            • Wizzo
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                              #15
                              Originally posted by Barefootsies
                              There is a lot of money on the table, not being discussed in their offer. I would shop around a bit.

                              Just my
                              Yea like a program that could bring 100 sales a day, not 100 a month...
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                              • Big Red Machine
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                                • Jan 2005
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                                #16
                                I don't know the company that made the original offer. But MAyors$ I'm sure will have a quick turn around so you I mean she would be making $ quicker. They are a credible company that I'm sure has a great system by now to get you I mean her up and running.

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                                • V_RocKs
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                                  • Nov 2003
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                                  #17
                                  Fucking chicks... they will work for peanuts I guess...

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                                  • SteveLightspeed
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                                    #18
                                    Originally posted by Wizzo
                                    Yea like a program that could bring 100 sales a day, not 100 a month...
                                    And *I* get accused of stealing models from smaller companies?

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                                    • sickkittens
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                                      • Barefootsies
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                                        #20
                                        Originally posted by Wizzo
                                        Yea like a program that could bring 100 sales a day, not 100 a month...
                                        True dat

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                                        • Wizzo
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                                          #21
                                          Originally posted by Lightspeed
                                          And *I* get accused of stealing models from smaller companies?

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                                          • Big Red Machine
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                                            #22
                                            Originally posted by Lightspeed
                                            And *I* get accused of stealing models from smaller companies?

                                            Steve Lightspeed
                                            Theres too many "ShoeBox" Producers that never delivery but promise the world,and think they own the girls.

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                                            • Nubiles
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                                              #23
                                              Originally posted by KrisKross
                                              A friend of mine was recently offered a job posing for a solo site. The offer was made by a company which already runs five other sites that have been around for a year.

                                              They offered her $200 cash per month, plus 25% of the profit the site makes. She'd have to pose for 5-6 sets and 2 videos a month as well as make a few journal entries.

                                              I figure if the site charges $20 per month, after you take away the affiliate's cut, the processor's cut, hosting, etc, it leaves about $6-$7 per signup as profit. That gives her about $1.50 - $1.75 per signup . Say 100 signups a month, that's about $350 a month she makes in all. Is this fair/decent pay? Is this a somewhat standard pay, or is it high or low?

                                              Can anyone here (preferably some program owners) offer some advice or suggestions? My knowledge of the industry doesn't extend much past story writing and gallery work, so I'd love to hear from some people more in the know.

                                              Thank you so very much.
                                              [Kris]
                                              Tell the model to ask for cash payment for her time instead of a percentage. It will work out much better in the end. The cash can be a small amount to start and the balance upon finishing enough content to start the site, say 1 month tops. If she changes her mind after the shoot, its too bad for her, the site stays up. If the site tanks she still received full payment.
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                                              • slapass
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                                                • Nov 2002
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                                                #24
                                                Give me a break this deal rocks. She gets a base fee to cover her time and if the site goes big she gets to share very nicely.

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                                                • After Shock Media
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                                                  • Mar 2001
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                                                  #25
                                                  Originally posted by Drunkspringbreakgirls
                                                  Tell the model to ask for cash payment for her time instead of a percentage. It will work out much better in the end. The cash can be a small amount to start and the balance upon finishing enough content to start the site, say 1 month tops. If she changes her mind after the shoot, its too bad for her, the site stays up. If the site tanks she still received full payment.
                                                  I would imagine the opposite. Sure if you are the site owner I am positive you would be more inclined to pay for the shoots and forgo a percentage. Though as a model a percentage deal very well may make a great deal more in the long run.


                                                  Originally posted by Lightspeed
                                                  And *I* get accused of stealing models from smaller companies?
                                                  Steve Lightspeed
                                                  I personally found what you are speaking of kind of repulsive in a way. Yes this is business and all, but holy hell. They never even said for what company it is for and people are encouraging another company in the model snipe that is happening.

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                                                  • Wizzo
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                                                    #26
                                                    Originally posted by After Shock Media
                                                    I personally found what you are speaking of kind of repulsive in a way. Yes this is business and all, but holy hell. They never even said for what company it is for and people are encouraging another company in the model snipe that is happening.

                                                    Personally think it would be sad as hell to pay model $350 a month and should be sniped by someone that can pay her a decent wage...
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                                                    • SteveLightspeed
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                                                      #27
                                                      Originally posted by Wizzo
                                                      Personally think it would be sad as hell to pay model $350 a month and should be sniped by someone that can pay her a decent wage...
                                                      cool, what's brook skye's phone number?
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                                                      • Wizzo
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                                                        #28
                                                        Originally posted by Lightspeed
                                                        cool, what's brook skye's phone number?
                                                        I'll trade you for Jordan Capri's... deal?
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                                                        • Mayor
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                                                          • May 2001
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                                                          #29
                                                          Steve, better idea, fly out one or two your girls and we'll do a group shoot with ours then cross promote to each other from the set in the members areas. Should be good to trade a few hundred sales and make the trip WELL worth while I'll even fly you out on my dime for that!

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                                                          • Oracle Porn
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                                                            • Oct 2002
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                                                            #30
                                                            most decent programs pay %50 cut.


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                                                            • Mutt
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                                                              • Sep 2002
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                                                              #31
                                                              i guarantee each girl i think is site worthy $5000 guaranteed upfront - and great bonuses based on sales if they come along for the ride and participate in their sites.

                                                              most of the girls who are offered a % wind up disappointed - the Kates and Kelly's are rare.
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                                                              • imageman
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                                                                #32
                                                                How long is a piece of string ?
                                                                If a model works for us and shoots b/g she walks away with a little under $1000.00 for a few still sets and 30-40 minutes of raw video. If she is very popular we shoot her at least 6 times a year which equals $6000.00 for around 18 hours of work plus say a total of 6 hours travel time. That equates to $250 per hour, which makes the $200 a month seem quite poor. Then again if she is under a contract for a year its a guaranteed payment, provided she does her allotted shoots. You can make the figures seem quite attractive but i agree its down to the management and how good these guys are at selling memberships!

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                                                                • Wizzo
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                                                                  #33
                                                                  Originally posted by Oracle Porn
                                                                  most decent programs pay %50 cut.
                                                                  That may be for a decent program, but excellent program probley a little high!
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                                                                  • After Shock Media
                                                                    It's coming look busy
                                                                    • Mar 2001
                                                                    • 35299

                                                                    #34
                                                                    Originally posted by Wizzo
                                                                    Personally think it would be sad as hell to pay model $350 a month and should be sniped by someone that can pay her a decent wage...
                                                                    Hey nothing at all against your company. Like I said I understand it is business and all. Just on the flip side I do recall most of us starting out somewhere, and that often meant not having a bunch of money.

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                                                                    • Wizzo
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                                                                      #35
                                                                      Originally posted by After Shock Media
                                                                      Hey nothing at all against your company. Like I said I understand it is business and all. Just on the flip side I do recall most of us starting out somewhere, and that often meant not having a bunch of money.
                                                                      The starting point usually wasn't a paysite. If you can't pay a girl more than $350 a month, maybe your not ready to run paysite?

                                                                      I mean when you can make more working at Wendy's than getting naked on the internet, something is wrong?
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                                                                      • After Shock Media
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                                                                        • Mar 2001
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                                                                        #36
                                                                        Originally posted by Wizzo
                                                                        The starting point usually wasn't a paysite. If you can't pay a girl more than $350 a month, maybe your not ready to run paysite?

                                                                        I mean when you can make more working at Wendy's than getting naked on the internet, something is wrong?
                                                                        Some did however start with paysites. Then again maybe they can pay more than 200 + the possible extra 150 if they get the signups as per the original post and they just threw out a number that was very low yet agreeable by the model.

                                                                        Though I would like to know what Wendy's is paying 33.00 to 58.00 an hour. Assuming it would take approx 6 hours a month to do her tasks.

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                                                                        • Wizzo
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                                                                          #37
                                                                          Originally posted by After Shock Media
                                                                          Some did however start with paysites. Then again maybe they can pay more than 200 + the possible extra 150 if they get the signups as per the original post and they just threw out a number that was very low yet agreeable by the model.

                                                                          Though I would like to know what Wendy's is paying 33.00 to 58.00 an hour. Assuming it would take approx 6 hours a month to do her tasks.
                                                                          I hear you, but as someone who's company does run very successful sologirl sites, I do think that it will be ALOT more than appox. 6hours a month, to build a solid site around a solo-girl. Which leads me to believe that the 100sales a month might not be far off the mark?

                                                                          Would never discourage anyone from trying though!
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                                                                          • Barefootsies
                                                                            Choice is an Illusion
                                                                            • Feb 2005
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                                                                            #38
                                                                            Originally posted by After Shock Media
                                                                            Some did however start with paysites. Then again maybe they can pay more than 200 + the possible extra 150 if they get the signups as per the original post and they just threw out a number that was very low yet agreeable by the model.

                                                                            Though I would like to know what Wendy's is paying 33.00 to 58.00 an hour. Assuming it would take approx 6 hours a month to do her tasks.
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                                                                            • After Shock Media
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                                                                              #39
                                                                              Originally posted by Wizzo
                                                                              I hear you, but as someone who's company does run very successful sologirl sites, I do think that it will be ALOT more than appox. 6hours a month, to build a solid site around a solo-girl. Which leads me to believe that the 100sales a month might not be far off the mark?

                                                                              Would never discourage anyone from trying though!
                                                                              I was being nice with the 6 hours, someone else guessed 3 so I doubled it.

                                                                              I typically assume a quality photoshoot for 1 set will take an hour per 30 pictures unless they really like the ability to animate the series of pictures in a gif file to make a movie. Then a video should typically take around an hour for every 15 to 30 minutes of usable footage to make as well. Then again if its very amateur with no regards to promo aspects and zero editing I guess it could take less.

                                                                              Then that still does not really cover site start up unless the site would really truely suck for the first few months which is near suicide for a site. I would hope they would at least have 30 to 40 sets of at least 30 pictures each as well as 10 to 20 videos up from day one as a minimum. Hopefully considerably more, then again I have seen some damn shitty members areas for solo sites.

                                                                              I side more with Mutt on this and would offer at least 5k for start up plus a percentage deal. I personally would rather have happy talent.

                                                                              Oh please note I do not have as much of an issue with you trying the snipe it is business after all. I just did not like seeing others encouraging it.

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                                                                              • After Shock Media
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                                                                                #40
                                                                                Originally posted by Barefootsies
                                                                                Laugh all you want. I know several that started with nothing finacially and came right out opening a paysite as their first step. True this was years back but regardless it still happened.

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                                                                                • dissipate
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                                                                                  • Nov 2005
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                                                                                  #41
                                                                                  Originally posted by Lace
                                                                                  Very honest and great group over at Mayors Money!

                                                                                  They also have some great sites that convert AMAZING!
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                                                                                  • SteveLightspeed
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                                                                                    #42
                                                                                    Originally posted by After Shock Media
                                                                                    Laugh all you want. I know several that started with nothing finacially and came right out opening a paysite as their first step. True this was years back but regardless it still happened.
                                                                                    This is exactly how I started in 99!

                                                                                    HOWEVER, a lot has changed since then!

                                                                                    Let me offer a piece of advice about choosing a winning girl for a solo site, and how to make sure she doesn't feel ripped off:

                                                                                    DON'T START WITH A SOLO SITE!

                                                                                    We started with several teen sites, like www.ls-university.com www.ls-sorority.com www.cumfilledpanties.com that needed regular content updates. So we hired girls for one or two days to shoot for those, and paid them PER SHOOT. When we put a new girl in front of our members that everyone really liked, (Like Tawnee Stone) ONLY THEN would we ask her to come back and shoot more content.

                                                                                    Once she proved herself a reliable model, and we felt like she had a large enough fan base, then we would negotiate with her about her own solo site. Its a no-lose way to do it!

                                                                                    Once a girl has her own solo site, we still paid her a flat rate for shooting regular updates, then gave her a % commission from her site for her participation in marketing, promotion, and answering her fan mail, doing a daily journal, or performing regular live shows. Its only fair to pay harder working girls more money than ones that don't want to do more than 1 or 2 shoots a month.

                                                                                    Hope this advice helps

                                                                                    Steve Lightspeed
                                                                                    Abra-cadabra!

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                                                                                    • GigoloJustin
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                                                                                      #43
                                                                                      Originally posted by BrettJ

                                                                                      But in the end..6 pic sets and 2 vids is going to take about 3 hours of her life.


                                                                                      Unless she works for me. Then it takes 3 days...

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                                                                                      • Audrey
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                                                                                        #44
                                                                                        it really depends on what she looks like. If she is average, she shouldnt do a site unless its paid per shoot. The market is saturated already and average girls are not doing much. Plus, even if its one shooting a month, she still has to pay for her clothes, and she'll spend time going there and preparing herself etc. 350$/ month is really not a lot for having naked pics of you on the net and you cant take them out when you want them gone...

                                                                                        also if the company is crap, her % will not worth much. If the company cant offer to pay per shoot, then that means they think she is not that hot and wont sell much... so that gives you an idea.

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                                                                                        • King Adam
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                                                                                          • opulence
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                                                                                            #46
                                                                                            So much speculation over a girl we still haven't seen pics of yet...
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                                                                                            • Mutt
                                                                                              Too lazy to set a custom title
                                                                                              • Sep 2002
                                                                                              • 34431

                                                                                              #47
                                                                                              the amazing thing i've learned is for alot of these girls the money is not an issue - but for others the cash upfront is what they are after. most of the ones i talk to if i said 'well you'll be paid a % of the profits when the site is running' i doubt they'd be interested at all - they are already suspicious about this stuff.
                                                                                              I moved my sites to Vacares Hosting. I've saved money, my hair is thicker, lost some weight too! Thanks Sly!

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                                                                                              • Mutt
                                                                                                Too lazy to set a custom title
                                                                                                • Sep 2002
                                                                                                • 34431

                                                                                                #48
                                                                                                i don't mean the money means nothing to some of them - but it's not the biggest reason they are doing it.
                                                                                                I moved my sites to Vacares Hosting. I've saved money, my hair is thicker, lost some weight too! Thanks Sly!

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                                                                                                • AmateurFlix
                                                                                                  Confirmed User
                                                                                                  • Jul 2004
                                                                                                  • 7762

                                                                                                  #49
                                                                                                  that girl would be a fool to agree to a percentage of profits from each sale. she should negotiate a fixed price per sale instead or else the expenses will likely end up getting manipulated to show a smaller profit...

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                                                                                                  • Lykos
                                                                                                    Too lazy to set a custom title
                                                                                                    • Apr 2003
                                                                                                    • 31027

                                                                                                    #50
                                                                                                    i thinks thats too small money...l.depends how she looks and how site do...but...small cash,lol

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