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  • BannerAnt
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    • Oct 2007
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    #51
    I'd like someone to find one case where someone died using ONLY "e"...I have never heard of a case where they weren't using other drugs / stimulants (like ephedrine) at the same time. A few years ago 20/20 did the first ever non-government funded study on estacy and dispproved every single thing the government(s) claim it does to you. It's one of the safest things you can put in your body...but like anything else (alcohol, hamburgers, etc)...the user can decide if it becomes harmful.
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    • Big_Red
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      #52
      MDMA is not harmfull. its the other stuff they put in it. .02
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      • BannerAnt
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        #53
        Originally posted by Big_Red
        MDMA is not harmfull. its the other stuff they put in it. .02
        what he said

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        • justinsain
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          #54
          Originally posted by Jace

          drinking alcohol all night long does more damage to both body and mind than a single tab of ecstasy out at a club one night

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          • shahab6
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            #55
            Its the best experience ever, it's worth doing it once. But yes it is bad. But chance of dying from it is one in a million

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            • bufferover
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              #56
              Shrooms are far more better in smaller doses

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              • Jace
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                #57
                Originally posted by dimitar
                Shrooms are far more better in smaller doses
                i think jenkem is more better

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                • bufferover
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                  #58
                  Originally posted by Jace
                  i think jenkem is more better
                  New stuff? Just checked on wikipedia more info on this?

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                  • bufferover
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                    #59
                    http://www.thesmokinggun.com/archive...72jenkem1.html

                    Err no thanks

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                    • Lemons
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                      #60
                      Jenkem ftw!

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                      • Sebastian Sands
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                        #61
                        Originally posted by xlogger
                        Has anyone died from using ecstasy?
                        YES, a lot actually. Young girls and guys. about 10 years ago (maybe even longer) when I still lived in Holland we heard reports all the time of young people dying on xtc pills. Then they had "check stations" at parties where you could go and have your pill tested if it was ok to take.

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                        • Jace
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                          #62
                          Originally posted by Sebastian Sands
                          YES, a lot actually. Young girls and guys. about 10 years ago (maybe even longer) when I still lived in Holland we heard reports all the time of young people dying on xtc pills. Then they had "check stations" at parties where you could go and have your pill tested if it was ok to take.
                          so, they died from taking fake pills or died from ecstasy?

                          I suggest you read up on scientific studies on what ecstasy actually does to your body and IF it is possible to OD directly from ecstasy

                          majority of the OD reports you hear are merely idiot drug takers that don't know how to handle a real high and go to far

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                          • xlogger
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                            #63
                            Originally posted by Sebastian Sands
                            YES, a lot actually. Young girls and guys. about 10 years ago (maybe even longer) when I still lived in Holland we heard reports all the time of young people dying on xtc pills. Then they had "check stations" at parties where you could go and have your pill tested if it was ok to take.
                            I'm not a big drug person but i really want to try E. Have to find the good shit, i know a girl that has a lot of it, but how do u know its good?

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                            • bufferover
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                              #64
                              Originally posted by xlogger
                              I'm not a big drug person but i really want to try E. Have to find the good shit, i know a girl that has a lot of it, but how do u know its good?
                              Hard to know that maybe ask some friend that have experience with that small amount of shrooms can give you the same effect without big hallucionation , give a try to Psilocybe cubensis Amazonian (XTC) very relaxing shroom without big visuals

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                              • Jace
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                                #65
                                Originally posted by xlogger
                                I'm not a big drug person but i really want to try E. Have to find the good shit, i know a girl that has a lot of it, but how do u know its good?
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                                • xlogger
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                                  #66
                                  Originally posted by Jace
                                  I'm going to order this, lol.

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                                  • Jace
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                                    #67
                                    Originally posted by xlogger
                                    I'm going to order this, lol.
                                    we have one here and every single pill we get goes through the test, it has saved us so much time and money

                                    we got some pills last week that tested straight up pure speed...not one single bit of ecstasy in them whatsoever

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                                    • LeRoy
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                                      #68
                                      I love EEEEEEE. I have taken up to 10 hits in one night. I have a pic somewhere. Here it is. This was New Years 1999 on 10 hits of EEEE. Now I try to take it at least once a year. Might have to skip this one because of the baby coming soon but I 'll get around to it. I remember the good ole day when I would buy 100 of them and eat most with my friends. I was getting them for 5 bucks so they were like candy sometimes. The good ones I have taken always have been red but those mitsubishi doublestacks mmmmmm


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                                      • Jace
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                                        #69
                                        Originally posted by D2222
                                        I love EEEEEEE. I have taken up to 10 hits in one night. I have a pic somewhere. Here it is. This was New Years 1999 on 10 hits of EEEE. Now I try to take it at least once a year. Might have to skip this one because of the baby coming soon but I 'll get around to it. I remember the good ole day when I would buy 100 of them and eat most with my friends. I was getting them for 5 bucks so they were like candy sometimes. The good ones I have taken always have been red but those mitsubishi doublestacks mmmmmm


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                                        I hope not all at once, haha

                                        back in my dealing days we used to have bags of pills just everywhere within our group...after we spent a whole weekend dealing we would go and get a hotel room for a few nights and just party for 2-3 days straight...I think my record was 24 pills in 3 days...after you eat 5-6 of them you have to start double dropping and triple dropping...i fried my brain a few times over in those days

                                        nowadays we usually stick to 2-3 max a night

                                        we were fortunate enough to get some totally pure pills a few weekends ago, in the test they went from clear to almost black in 2 seconds......the quicker the liquid turns to dark blue/black the better it is and more mdma/mda is in the pill.....right after I tested them I ran back to the guy and grabbed 20 more and stashed them away, you don't come across shit like that much anymore...we rolled our ASSES off that night

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                                        • LeRoy
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                                          #70
                                          No not at once. Another time I was at a party dividing 8 hits with my girl and a friend. Then all of a sudden this fucking security guard rolled up on me. With one fell swoop I gobbled all 8 of them to keep the bitch from taking them. I fucking rolled so hard that night.
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                                          • The Sultan Of Smut
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                                            #71
                                            Originally posted by candyflip
                                            It might not kill you, but it destroys your brain cells like nothing else. I have had my fair share, and seeing a scan of my head really opened my eyes to how fucked up it really can be. If you're going to party, don't over abuse it. Moderation is always the key.
                                            I don't believe it someone mentioned this! I've gotten into this debate too many times and it never makes a difference but quickly you get the high form E because of a massive release of serotonin. The result of this is that the cells that release the serotonin die. What sucks is that these cells aren't located in a discrete location in the brain but rather are somewhat spread out so don't count on a stem cell cure for it.

                                            That's the coles notes version which is a little over simplified but the moral is don't do it.

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                                            • BerdoR
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                                              #72
                                              Originally posted by candyflip
                                              It might not kill you, but it destroys your brain cells like nothing else. I have had my fair share, and seeing a scan of my head really opened my eyes to how fucked up it really can be. If you're going to party, don't over abuse it. Moderation is always the key.
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                                              • Jace
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                                                #73
                                                Originally posted by The Sultan Of Smut
                                                I don't believe it someone mentioned this! I've gotten into this debate too many times and it never makes a difference but quickly you get the high form E because of a massive release of serotonin. The result of this is that the cells that release the serotonin die. What sucks is that these cells aren't located in a discrete location in the brain but rather are somewhat spread out so don't count on a stem cell cure for it.

                                                That's the coles notes version which is a little over simplified but the moral is don't do it.
                                                stem cell cure for what? losing seratonin?

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                                                • Michaelious
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                                                  #74
                                                  I just don't see the point in doing them.

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                                                  • Cyrano
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                                                    #75
                                                    MDMA has been the subject of a smear campaign. Cut through the misinformation.

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                                                    • Jace
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                                                      #76
                                                      btw, there are a LOT of new studies coming out recently that disprove a LOT of facts we have "known" about ecstasy for years....now that drug use is becoming more of a mainstream accepted form of fun, there are more private (non-government) funded organizations doing legit studies instead of those crap studies the government alters or fudges facts on

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                                                      • Retributi0n
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                                                        #77
                                                        I went to a rave once. Then I saw some loser walking around holding a doll. So I left..

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                                                        • bufferover
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                                                          #78
                                                          Originally posted by Retributi0n
                                                          I went to a rave once. Then I saw some loser walking around holding a doll. So I left..
                                                          hahhahaha

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                                                          • LeRoy
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                                                            #79
                                                            Originally posted by Retributi0n
                                                            I went to a rave once. Then I saw some loser walking around holding a doll. So I left..
                                                            I would do the same. Lucky for me I was in tight with some promoters and my first time was a fucking blast. Northern California "Freedom" 1997. They are much different now.

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                                                            • kowalsky
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                                                              #80
                                                              No problem if you take a pill one night, and if you don´t do it tto often. Like most of drugs the problem come from abuse, and abuse come from no information for those who use it.
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                                                              • minddust
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                                                                #81
                                                                Originally posted by xlogger
                                                                Has anyone died from using ecstasy?
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                                                                • kowalsky
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                                                                  #82
                                                                  MDMA is a great experience, many people should try it at least once.
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                                                                  • st0ned
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                                                                    #83
                                                                    My childhood friend died from an x overdose his senior year in highschool. Just moderate, and make sure you have breaks (days) in between your rolls.
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                                                                    • BVF
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                                                                      #84
                                                                      I took a whole pill last thursday and I was rolling like shit......Then I took a half a pill of a so called 'double stack' yesterday and nothing happened...I'm sitting here with a two and a half pills and I don't even want to be bothered with them.

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                                                                      • TSGlider
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                                                                        #85
                                                                        There is no consensus in the scientific community on the risks of MDMA use:

                                                                        http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mdma
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                                                                        • Scott McD
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                                                                          #86
                                                                          Originally posted by minddust
                                                                          I've seen people act much worse, drunk...


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                                                                            #87
                                                                            Originally posted by Spunky
                                                                            It all depends what's used to make it.I've heard people using rat poison and drain cleaners as well as other household cleaners..stay away from that shit
                                                                            The people you've heard were either lying, misinformed or ignorant.
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                                                                            • chelo - adultcopywriters
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                                                                              #88
                                                                              LSD is the shit!

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                                                                              • CosmicTang
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                                                                                #89
                                                                                My MDMA days are behind me now for a while. On the one hand I find it amazing that people are still telling--and believing--the same horseshit about MDMA being cut with drain cleaners, rat poison, drying up spinal fluids, and causing death. On the other, I'm not so surprised. Kids in school today are telling the same jokes they did 20 and 30 years ago. Ignorance is not in short supply.

                                                                                The people who die while using MDMA do so because they don't monitor their fluid intake and body temperature. They overheat, seize, and then you have a serious fucking problem.

                                                                                MDMA does pose dangers and it can injure your brain and make it difficult to produce certain chemicals naturally and those chemicals regulate things like mood. Most people return to normal, but only after giving their brains a rest from it. It can take a while depending upon the frequency and intensity of use.
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                                                                                • HouseHead
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                                                                                  #90
                                                                                  Originally posted by ismokeblunts
                                                                                  i think ecstasy is one of the most underrated drugs around when it comes to the dangers of it's use. i've done alot of it, and been around alot of it, and i can tell you straight out, just because it's lovey dovey shit, does not make it all that innocent. it is dirty fucking shit that for the most part is a chemical cocktail of all sorts of random shit whipped up in some motherfucker''s bathtub. you never know what you're putting in your body and it can and will harm you in the long run if you keep doing it. i can't fucking stand people trying to pass ecstasy off as something that's "mostly" harmless...
                                                                                  thats why you buy a testing kit and know what the fuck you are eating, and i am pretty sure its not just whipped up in a bathtub lol more people die from electric blanket deaths a year than from MDMA..
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                                                                                  • Ayla_SquareTurtle
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                                                                                    #91
                                                                                    Test kit. Moderation. Don't be a fucking idiot who believes every study you read. In one well known study, the people in charge later admitted that the substance they used was not actually MDMA but instead was meth due to a goof up. Sound like real professionals to me!
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                                                                                    • calista
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                                                                                      #92
                                                                                      Ecstasy is a hallucinogen and produces stimulant effects like amphetamine. It is commonly marketed as a "feel good drug" because of the positive feelings of well being and empathy toward other people, elimination of anxiety, and extreme relaxation. It is also said that ecstasy suppresses the need to eat drink and sleep, allowing club scene users to endure all night and some times two or three day parties.

                                                                                      But on my own opinion I would rather take other vitamins instead of buying this addicted drug...

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                                                                                      • lhizy_05
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                                                                                        #93
                                                                                        maybe everbody knows taking too much drugs is not good to our health and can damage brain..
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                                                                                        • dav3
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                                                                                          #94
                                                                                          That's like asking if meth is bad for you.
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                                                                                          • LadyMischief
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                                                                                            #95
                                                                                            Ya anyone who thinks ecstacy is safe, even for ONE use, are absolutely retarded. First off, especially anyone with diabetes, heart problems (especially undetected ones) etc etc shouldn't use it... you're ASKING to die!! It's a stimulant and anti-depressant that messes with the natural seratonin balance in your brain. Nobody even KNOWS the long-term use effects over a longer period.....but how about the guy in the UK who is basically a vegetable after using so much?

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                                                                                            I also had the unfortunate experience of knowing a couple who concieved their child while on ecstacy, and even though the mother STOPPED it's use while pregnant, her idiot hubby was CONSTANTLY on it, having sex with her, depositing his "ecstacy"-tainted semen into her and transferring amounts of it to her body. Small doses of ecstacy for the entire pregnancy (not to mention the massive amounts the mother herself was doing until she actually found out and stopped DENYING she was pregnant) were certainly enough to do a number on the baby. I've never seen a child so vacant-eyed and even at a year the kid was not even responding to it's own name being called. The diagnosis? Severe retardation due to the parent's drug use and constant exposure to ecstacy in the womb. Wonder how many exstacy babies will haunt the next generation?

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                                                                                            • Sam Granger
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                                                                                              #96
                                                                                              One of my best friends died right infront of me after she took xtc. Staying well away from it.

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                                                                                              • Sansa
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                                                                                                #97
                                                                                                Originally posted by eMonk
                                                                                                of course people have died from it. i've seen it with my own eyes. moderation is key with class a drugs such as ecstasy.
                                                                                                People have died from drinking too much water. Give a dumbass an opportunity and he'll find a way to kill himself.
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                                                                                                • lhizy_05
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                                                                                                  #98
                                                                                                  taki ngto much is not good, know your limitations...
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                                                                                                  • nico-t
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                                                                                                    #99
                                                                                                    never had it and prolly never will... i just dont feel the urge to try new drugs and shit, never really used to have that urge but now i really dont care about drugs anymore. I only had weed and alcohol and i just stick to what i got under control and what i really like and thats alcohol... i love it. Weed sucks i hate the shit. Even wehn im completely relaxed, alone, chilling in front of the tv with nothing on my mind - once i smoke some weed my heartbeat raises to like 300 bpm, or at least thats what it feels like. Never take weed anymore.

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                                                                                                    • meatboss
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                                                                                                      #100
                                                                                                      yes can directly impact R part of the brain.
                                                                                                      Makes you stop breathing for example.

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