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  • TreasureBucks
    Confirmed User
    • Mar 2005
    • 1971
    #101
    Originally posted by milambur
    You seem to forget that Israel have been attacking/occupying Palestine since it was founded. If you were living in a country that was being torn apart by a big powerful neighbour with technology far superior yours, then you would do the same thing they are doing.

    If you want to talk about acts of war: Not long ago the US deliberately attacked targets in Pakistan, an US ALLY, killing civilians, without Pakistani permission. Now if that isn?t an act of war?.

    It's easy to pass judgement on other people/countries when you are living in the most powerful country in the world.

    attacking them??? na... not yet. What youve seen so far is Isreal keeping them at bay. They could go in there and clean house. They dont have the world's blessing for that. I doubt they will get it, but they wont need it, if hamas is a political party now, and continues to attack Isreal.

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      • Drake
        Hello world!
        • Mar 2003
        • 12508
        #102
        In another thread somebody said that Arrafat was once part of a similar party and once they got into power they stopped being extremist and militant. Money has a way of changing people. So who knows, it may not be as disastrous as many are predicting.

        That said, it should be known that AlienQ invented Hamas.

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          • sixxxthsense
            Confirmed User
            • Aug 2004
            • 2419
            #103
            Originally posted by baddog
            I don't recall Israel losing a war yet. In fact, as I recall they pretty much kicked everyone's ass in 6 days.

            http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Six-Day_War
            thats cuz your government is supplying them with whatever they need/want

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              • sixxxthsense
                Confirmed User
                • Aug 2004
                • 2419
                #104
                Originally posted by RocHard
                When the bombs are killing the cable guy who lives next to door to me, no, I wouldn't support them. How in the world does killing the guy who is fixing my fucking telephone or fixing my cable accomplish anything?

                I can see moving up to the hills, arming myself, and attacking military conoys, but not killing an innocent employee of the phone company - no matter who is signing his paycheck.
                how do you know that the so called "innocent employee of the phone company" wasn't doing work for US troops? Ie setting up phone lines??? or wasn't working for the guv that these guys dont support?

                your a fucking morron...

                there is reading the news
                and then there is READING BETWEEN THE BOLD LINES.

                all the news you get are US source i bet. bush RSS FEEDS! LOL.

                whatever ill stop, i know ur a stupid ignorant tard

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                  • Rochard
                    Jägermeister Test Pilot
                    • Dec 2001
                    • 75761
                    #105
                    Originally posted by milambur
                    You seem to forget that Israel have been attacking/occupying Palestine since it was founded. If you were living in a country that was being torn apart by a big powerful neighbour with technology far superior yours, then you would do the same thing they are doing.

                    If you want to talk about acts of war: Not long ago the US deliberately attacked targets in Pakistan, an US ALLY, killing civilians, without Pakistani permission. Now if that isn?t an act of war?.

                    It's easy to pass judgement on other people/countries when you are living in the most powerful country in the world.
                    I'll agree with you on Isreal occupying Palestine since it was founded. I've oftened wondered who decided on doing this and why it was where Isreal is today. However, this was over sixty years ago, and Isreal is not going to magically transport itself to another part of the globe.

                    If this was happening to my country, no, I would not support terrorist actions. I'm former military myself, and targeting innocent people who are riding on a bus just doesn't make sense to me.

                    As for the recent actions in Pakistan, there is huge difference between between an handful of accidental deaths of people that may or may not be guilty compared to walking onto a bus full of innocent people and just randomly blowing up a bomb. We had intel that said terrorists were going to be there; It's not the fault of the US that terrorists hide amoung the cilvilian population.

                    Oh, and just in case you were wondering, yes, this is in fact an act of war. Keep in mind these are the same terrorists that have a hobby of dive bombing rather large aircraft into tall buildings.
                    Herschel Savage
                    Brooklyn, NY

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                      • bhutocracy
                        Not making A Comeback
                        • Dec 2001
                        • 10218
                        #106
                        amazing to think what would have happened if they went ahead with jewish settlement in some bumfuck part of Australia like a few people had on the cards instead of Palestine.

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                          • biftek
                            So Fucking Banned
                            • Jan 2005
                            • 1030
                            #107
                            well we have a shitload of desert that isn't getting used , a few traces of radiation but she'll be right

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                              • BlueDesignStudios
                                Confirmed User
                                • Feb 2003
                                • 9492
                                #108
                                Originally posted by RocHard
                                If this was happening to my country, no, I would not support terrorist actions. I'm former military myself, and targeting innocent people who are riding on a bus just doesn't make sense to me.

                                Your points are well balanced - it is good to hear that you do not support the killings of innocents.

                                I'm curious to know though, what actions would you take if you were occupied? As former military, what would you do?

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                                  • Odin
                                    Confirmed User
                                    • Jan 2004
                                    • 2545
                                    #109
                                    Originally posted by BlueDesignStudios
                                    Your points are well balanced - it is good to hear that you do not support the killings of innocents.

                                    I'm curious to know though, what actions would you take if you were occupied? As former military, what would you do?
                                    ANd not just occupied by Canada for example. Occupied by Iran lets say, who were trying to change your country quickly. Don't get me wrong, I think these guys are brutal and savage, but it's not suprising how they've rallied support.
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                                      • milambur
                                        Mainstream since 2010
                                        • Jan 2003
                                        • 1327
                                        #110
                                        Originally posted by RocHard
                                        As for the recent actions in Pakistan, there is huge difference between between an handful of accidental deaths of people that may or may not be guilty compared to walking onto a bus full of innocent people and just randomly blowing up a bomb. We had intel that said terrorists were going to be there; It's not the fault of the US that terrorists hide amoung the cilvilian population.
                                        So if I get "intel" that there is a terrorist on american soil, bomb him and 200 civilians die, that would be ok from your point of view?

                                        Originally posted by RocHard
                                        Oh, and just in case you were wondering, yes, this is in fact an act of war. Keep in mind these are the same terrorists that have a hobby of dive bombing rather large aircraft into tall buildings.
                                        I was talking about Pakistan and not the terrorists, if you did the same thing in China or Russia you would have a nuclear war on your hands.

                                        Originally posted by RocHard
                                        I'll agree with you on Isreal occupying Palestine since it was founded. I've oftened wondered who decided on doing this and why it was where Isreal is today. However, this was over sixty years ago, and Isreal is not going to magically transport itself to another part of the globe.

                                        If this was happening to my country, no, I would not support terrorist actions. I'm former military myself, and targeting innocent people who are riding on a bus just doesn't make sense to me.
                                        Most countries that have waged war the last 100 years have committed acts of terrorism, including the US. I don't understand the difference in Israeli forces killing civilians as opposed to Hamas or any other Palestinian organisation doing it. It's the only way they have to fight back, do you expect them to just bend over and take it up their ass?
                                        Alea iacta est

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                                          • who
                                            So Fucking Banned
                                            • Aug 2003
                                            • 19593
                                            #111
                                            What earth needs is an alien conquerer.

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                                              • The Duck
                                                Adult Content Provider
                                                • May 2005
                                                • 18243
                                                #112
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                                                  • Dagwolf
                                                    President of Canada
                                                    • Sep 2003
                                                    • 23141
                                                    #113
                                                    Sleep well, and dream of large women.

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                                                      • The Ghost
                                                        IslandDollars.com
                                                        • Oct 2004
                                                        • 12188
                                                        #114
                                                        Originally posted by Lord Nelson
                                                        Yet, third world kids with World War ONE era rifles are knocking US multi-million dollar attack helicopters out of the sky.
                                                        I'm pretty sure Israel won't have the restrictions placed on them that the US goverment places on it's soldiers/peacekeepers on whatever foreign soil the US soldiers are at. US pretty much says not to fire unless they are fired upon first. Not going to be the directives like that given to the Israeli army I would imagine.

                                                        Israel has the best intelligence in the entire world, which the major Western countries benefit greatly from. I would suspect there will be a hail of nonstop missles heading in the direction of the Palestine until they relent.

                                                        And unfortunately, inspite of the words of the great Rodney King, we all just can't get along.

                                                        Besides, I know a shitload of porn that's wholesaled and retailed in Isreal. Not sure Palestiine, or the Muslim world in general, is helping the size of any of our wallets.
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                                                          • 2HousePlague
                                                            CURATOR
                                                            • Jul 2004
                                                            • 14572
                                                            #115
                                                            Surprised (and pleased) to find so much readiness for insurrection --
                                                            tada!

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