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  • asdfqwer
    Confirmed User
    • Jul 2003
    • 431
    #101
    Here is my list,in fact each host is different and there is no such a thing as "ideal host",those that are simply perfect has negative point as well,the price,however when i have contacted them i was inquirying for one server,since you are getting tens of servers they shoul dbe able to make you discount

    Top hosts

    http://www.isprime.com/ probably the only host that is connected at 60 Gbps
    http://www.jupiterhosting.com/
    http://www.cyberwurx.com/
    http://www.natnet.com
    http://www.rackspace.com
    http://datapipe.com/
    http://www.flyingcroc.net/hosting/
    http://www.swiftwill.com/

    Although they are all in the same list,they are all different,for example by response time to email tickets and DDoS policy
    DDoS should be an issue with you,either you are hosting many small websites or one big you should has faced an attack in past

    I know that ISPrime.com and Natnet.com has reached some decent success in fighting against DDoS

    Other hosts that i would also consider are below,they are cheaper than above ones but are still very good


    http://www.cavecreek.com/ owned by ccbill,the same company,same network
    http://www.realitychecknetwork.com/
    http://www.webair.com/ i have seen a very few negative posts about them and a lot of positive responses
    http://www.techiemedia.net/ i heard nothing but good things about them

    That one is unmanaged but has a good network and offering private racks,you could find a good management company and get servers there,the price (ev1servers+management) should be the same as going with a managed company
    http://www.ev1servers.net/

    90% your choice is depends on your budget

    There is a known webhosting dedicated forum where you may want to research as well but you wont find anything new there,simply because top hosts list is small and known

    Hopefully you will make a right decision,hosting is a critical factor for any website

    Good luck

    Originally posted by FiberNexus

    Please do list them ;).

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      • FiberNexus
        Registered User
        • Jun 2004
        • 99
        #102
        xxxjay
        To clarify, we've hosted with ISPrime and moved on (no comment).
        Jay what?s your ICQ if you don?t mind me asking? I?d really like to hear more about your ISPrime chronicles .

        asdfqwer
        http://www.isprime.com/ probably the only host that is connected at 60 Gbps
        http://www.jupiterhosting.com/
        http://www.cyberwurx.com/
        http://www.natnet.com
        http://www.rackspace.com
        http://datapipe.com/
        http://www.flyingcroc.net/hosting/
        http://www.swiftwill.com/
        Yeah I?ve actually hosted with cyberwurx before and they?re pretty good (pretty CHEAP too). I wasn?t in LOVE with their routing but they have solid performance and definitely 99.9%+ network uptime. But they?re just not ?mission-critical? enough wit the level of support and management services for what I?m doing. And as far as I know, RackSpace doesn?t offer colo services otherwise I would have probably gone with them.

        asdfqwer
        DDoS should be an issue with you,either you are hosting many small websites or one big you should has faced an attack in past
        Certainly, I put all of my shared hosting customers on their own IPs to help manage DDoS attacks. I also have juniper firewalls and IDS/IPS. But I need a provider that can HELP ME mitigate DDoS attacks effectively. This is something I?m going to inquire about when I contact the above hosts. I was just looking for everyone? input on their level of service.

        asdfqwer
        Other hosts that i would also consider are below,they are cheaper than above ones but are still very good
        http://www.cavecreek.com/ owned by ccbill,the same company,same network
        http://www.realitychecknetwork.com/
        http://www.webair.com/ i have seen a very few negative posts about them and a lot of positive responses
        http://www.techiemedia.net/ i heard nothing but good things about them
        Isn?t TM singled homed on Level3? That?s definitely not an option for me. I?m not a huge fan of level3, but having it in a BGP is usually a good thing. Level3 by itself is definitely not optimal though.

        asdfqwer
        Good luck
        Thank you!

        Thank you so much asdfqwer for your in-depth post, I really appreciated it.

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          • Kris The Knife
            Confirmed User
            • Feb 2005
            • 481
            #103
            webair is good for me, support is good and uptime too...
            i have 4 servers there and i am happy with them..

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              • Boss Traffic Jim
                Confirmed User
                • Nov 2002
                • 1150
                #104
                "Isn?t TM singled homed on Level3? That?s definitely not an option for me. I?m not a huge fan of level3, but having it in a BGP is usually a good thing. Level3 by itself is definitely not optimal though. "


                I believe that was true however I just heard that they brought in a 10 gig fiber link of WVFiber which is a very good carrier as a matter of fact it is the same carrier that NatNet uses.

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                  • ServerGenius
                    Confirmed User
                    • Feb 2002
                    • 9377
                    #105
                    Webair has great solutions for colocation customers. In case you are really
                    worried regarding the webair ip block spam abuse (which you shouldn't) you
                    could always register your own IP block with Arin.net
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                      • FiberNexus
                        Registered User
                        • Jun 2004
                        • 99
                        #106
                        Well let?s go over a few things here, I think everyone would be interested in knowing a little bit more about their providers:

                        I used FixedOrbit to get this information and I know it?s not always up to date, I?m also not sure if I read it all right but I am hoping representatives from these companies (if they are present here) can correct me where I?m wrong?

                        ISPrime: http://www.fixedorbit.com/AS/23/AS23393.htm
                        Control of approx 24,573 IP addresses (0.00%) in 3 groups
                        Issuer of approx 255 IP addresses (1.04%)
                        15 peers total (0.05%) (0 leaves)
                        PEERS:
                        ASN Name
                        2516 KDDI
                        3356 LEVEL3
                        4323 TWTC
                        6453 TELEGLOBE-AS
                        6461 ABOVENET
                        6539 GROUPTLCOM
                        6939 HURRICANE
                        8001 NET-ACCESS-CORP
                        1295 6RIPE-ASNBLOCK8
                        22691 ISPNET-1
                        22867 IHN
                        26627 AS-PILOSOFT
                        27519 CASIOI
                        29838 CRNC
                        29876 LNTC
                        So who are ISPrime?s transit/backbone providers? Which ones are peers and which ones are transit? Also, is ISPrime?s ?new datacenter? still in the Telehouse facility?

                        Webair:
                        results of search
                        No matches found for 209.200.29.36...
                        So they?re hiding their BGP mix from the public? Who are Webair?s TRANSIT providers and peers?

                        CPHOOA/hahahaha lol: http://www.fixedorbit.com/AS/20/AS20473.htm
                        Control of approx 16,382 IP addresses (0.00%) in 2 groups
                        Issuer of approx 0 IP addresses (0.00%)
                        5 peers total (0.02%) (0 leaves)
                        ASN Name
                        3356 LEVEL3
                        3561 SAVVIS
                        4513 AS-GLOBIX
                        4637 REACH
                        8001 NET-ACCESS-CORP
                        As far as I know all of those are transit, no peering. But it?s a very good mix...

                        Voxel: http://www.fixedorbit.com/AS/29/AS29791.htm
                        Control of approx 13,301 IP addresses (0.00%) in 11 groups
                        Issuer of approx 0 IP addresses (0.00%)
                        7 peers total (0.02%) (0 leaves)
                        ASN Name
                        174 COGENT-PSI-1
                        701 ALTERNET-AS
                        3292 RIPE-ASNBLOCK4
                        3356 LEVEL3
                        6939 HURRICANE
                        8001 NET-ACCESS-CORP
                        29876 LNTC
                        Cogent isn?t in their premium bandwidth mix but they use it for their ?value? bandwidth customers.

                        JupiterHosting: http://www.fixedorbit.com/AS/29/AS29814.htm
                        Control of approx 8,191 IP addresses (0.00%) in 1 groups
                        Issuer of approx 0 IP addresses (0.00%)
                        9 peers total (0.03%) (0 leaves)
                        ASN Name
                        2516 KDDI
                        3303 RIPE-ASNBLOCK4
                        3356 LEVEL3
                        4513 AS-GLOBIX
                        6539 GROUPTLCOM
                        6939 HURRICANE
                        8075 MICROSOFT-CORP---MSN-AS-BLOCK
                        12956 RIPE-ASNBLOCK8
                        19151 WVFIBER-1
                        Again, who are the backbones here? Level3, Globix, HE and WVFiber?

                        NatNet: http://www.fixedorbit.com/AS/22/AS22384.htm
                        Control of approx 20,733 IP addresses (0.00%) in 3 groups
                        Issuer of approx 255 IP addresses (1.23%)
                        2 peers total (0.01%) (0 leaves)
                        ASN Name
                        1299 RIPE-ASNBLOCK-1299
                        19151 WVFIBER-1
                        NatNet is single homed on WVFiber bandwidth?

                        OC3Networks: http://www.fixedorbit.com/AS/29/AS29761.htm
                        Control of approx 16,382 IP addresses (0.00%) in 2 groups
                        Issuer of approx 0 IP addresses (0.00%)
                        4 peers total (0.01%) (0 leaves)
                        ASN Name
                        701 ALTERNET-AS
                        6453 TELEGLOBE-AS
                        11841 LINKLINE
                        29994 ISKIMARO
                        TechieMedia: Doesn?t have its own AS#, maybe they use LEVEL3?s routers?

                        results of search
                        Found 1 match(es) for 67.72.100.237...
                        3356LEVEL3
                        DynaSpain
                        youcould always register your own IP block with Arin.net
                        How hard is it to do that? How much does it cost for like a class c?

                        BTW: If anyone wants to email me information about any of the listed companies PLEASE DO ? for example, a lot of people don?t seem willing to share details about their negative experiences in public? email them to me! Your opinions will help shape my choice. [email protected].

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                          • SpeakEasy
                            Confirmed User
                            • Sep 2002
                            • 2681
                            #107
                            I pitty the host that ends up dealing with this guy.....I smell Nothing but trouble down the road
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                              • SweetT
                                Shank-A-Potamus
                                • Jan 2002
                                • 1756
                                #108
                                Hey FiberNexus...

                                The Fixed Orbit system is flawed. When it first started a few years ago I was hoping it was going to be a good way to give impartial information, but the system does not account for everything. I am not a network person, but I employ an entire staff of them and they told me more than a year ago that you can't trust FO anymore so I havent looked at it since.

                                Seriously...you seem like a smart person...did you ever really think that NatNet could possibly be single homed? Of course, not.

                                I haven't gotten an email from you yet about your free trips...I would think that you would be more interested in seeing things for yourself than to listen to people on GFY, but I want you to be as informed as you possibly can so whatever you think works.


                                --T

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                                  • Violetta
                                    Affiliate
                                    • Jul 2004
                                    • 28735
                                    #109
                                    webair is leading!
                                    M&A Queen

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                                      • Biggy
                                        Confirmed User
                                        • Jul 2001
                                        • 1595
                                        #110
                                        In my opinion, when it comes to hosting, no news is great. The one thing every owner wants to hear with respect to their servers is nothing, and everything is running smoothly. ISPrime is without a doubt in my mind the best on that list. The manpower they have on their technical support team is crazy, but not only that - the tech support guys actually know what the hell they are doing.

                                        I've had some serious nightmares with some of the other companies you mentioned on that list. You'll never get a true opinion off a board, if you're looking for the best host, look at their customers... bangbros, tcg, etc.

                                        One other thing about ISPrime that separates them and their thinking from the rest, they will never come on a public message board and pump their own company. I actually asked them why they do this... they said they let their customers do the talking for them.

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                                          • asdfqwer
                                            Confirmed User
                                            • Jul 2003
                                            • 431
                                            #111
                                            "Yeah I?ve actually hosted with cyberwurx before and they?re pretty good (pretty CHEAP too). "

                                            I guess you mean their unmanaged solution since managed servers cost 3x of website prices,which are not cheap


                                            "But I need a provider that can HELP ME mitigate DDoS attacks effectively."

                                            Then ISPrime.com and Natnet would be the choice,they dont charge extra to mitigate attacks and ISPrime did some nice job for me in that field,make sure to ask all hosts "whats your DDoS mitigation policy"

                                            "Isn?t TM singled homed on Level3? That?s definitely not an option for me. I?m not a huge fan of level3, but having it in a BGP is usually a good thing. Level3 by itself is definitely not optimal though."

                                            As far as i know they use Level3 and wvfiber which are the best bw providers in today's market

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                                              • asdfqwer
                                                Confirmed User
                                                • Jul 2003
                                                • 431
                                                #112
                                                Tony i have emailed you

                                                Originally posted by SweetT
                                                tony(DOT)morgan (AT) natnet (DOT ) com


                                                Please send it to me and also tell me what you WANT to pay me for it and let me see what I can do....you never know


                                                --T

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                                                  • John "JC" Conner
                                                    Confirmed User
                                                    • May 2004
                                                    • 130
                                                    #113
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                                                      • Morgan
                                                        Too lazy to set a custom title
                                                        • May 2002
                                                        • 10520
                                                        #114
                                                        Jupiter Hosting Rocks!!!
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                                                          • FiberNexus
                                                            Registered User
                                                            • Jun 2004
                                                            • 99
                                                            #115
                                                            SpeakEasy
                                                            I pitty the host that ends up dealing with this guy.....I smell Nothing but trouble down the road
                                                            Why, because I care about ?my- company/customers and don?t want to just sign up with ?webair? because they have the most votes on the list? You mean I?m going to be trouble because I wanted to know more about the networks of the companies that I might host with? Truthfully though? I just have a lot of equipment and am trying to find the *right* home for my stuff. If my provider keeps the network operating properly and up 100% of the time they?ll only hear from me during holidays (saying thanks) and when I need the occasional reboot/paid service. I wan a low-latency, high-speed, mission-critical network along with managed services provided by only the most competent of the providers.

                                                            SweetT
                                                            The Fixed Orbit system is flawed. When it first started a few years ago I was hoping it was going to be a good way to give impartial information, but the system does not account for everything. I am not a network person, but I employ an entire staff of them and they told me more than a year ago that you can't trust FO anymore so I havent looked at it since? I haven't gotten an email from you yet about your free trips...I would think that you would be more interested in seeing things for yourself than to listen to people on GFY, but I want you to be as informed as you possibly can so whatever you think works.
                                                            I?m just trying to get some facts straight so that I come to you with right questions .
                                                            Biggy
                                                            In my opinion, when it comes to hosting, no news is great. The one thing every owner wants to hear with respect to their servers is nothing, and everything is running smoothly.
                                                            I couldn?t agree more . If they keep the network going, no blips, then everything is great. Unfortunately most hosts can?t seem to do this heh.

                                                            asdfqwer
                                                            I guess you mean their unmanaged solution since managed servers cost 3x of website prices,which are not cheap
                                                            I meant in terms of rack space, power, and bandwidth on larger commits. Compared to other datacenters I?ve been in (the NYC area) they are incredibly cheap. NYC space and power cost absolutely premium rates. .

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                                                              • strobi
                                                                Confirmed User
                                                                • Nov 2002
                                                                • 7383
                                                                #116
                                                                I would go for Isprime. Hands down. Been with them for years and they still have superb support, never missed a beat.

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                                                                  • cyberpunk
                                                                    Confirmed User
                                                                    • Feb 2001
                                                                    • 1377
                                                                    #117
                                                                    if you are relying on an IDS/IPS you are using the wrong tools. To truely protect against DoS to you need DPI mitagation tools. To the best of my knowledge, and SweetT and all feel free to correct me if I'm wrong, but I don;t belive any of these guys do that. I'm not saying they won;t help you if your attacked but if one of your IPS is being hammered without DPI/anonlym detection that IP/is still fucked.

                                                                    For those of you listed that are intrested in this kida of tech, I don;t sell it but I do, do consulting ;)
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                                                                      • cyberpunk
                                                                        Confirmed User
                                                                        • Feb 2001
                                                                        • 1377
                                                                        #118
                                                                        wanted to commenct on fixed orbit, like Sweet T said , and I'll paraphase it's a joke. Pretty damn close ot useless. If you want a slightly better view of things you could use a route server to see who carries each of the above's routes. Remember though this will only show how to can get to them not how your packets will get back, which in reality is what you need to care about if you hosting content there.
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                                                                          • cyberpunk
                                                                            Confirmed User
                                                                            • Feb 2001
                                                                            • 1377
                                                                            #119
                                                                            FWIW, I don;t have equipment wiht any of the above but I am fimilar with ISPrime, NatNet and Webair and can tell you from a routing point of view all 3 are great networks and you'd be happy with any of them. The others I don't know so I can;t comment on. I have never used the support of any of these guys so I can't comment on that either, can only comment on thier external connections to the internet.
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                                                                              • asdfqwer
                                                                                Confirmed User
                                                                                • Jul 2003
                                                                                • 431
                                                                                #120
                                                                                Are you a tech admin or offering such a services ?

                                                                                Originally posted by cyberpunk
                                                                                if you are relying on an IDS/IPS you are using the wrong tools. To truely protect against DoS to you need DPI mitagation tools. To the best of my knowledge, and SweetT and all feel free to correct me if I'm wrong, but I don;t belive any of these guys do that. I'm not saying they won;t help you if your attacked but if one of your IPS is being hammered without DPI/anonlym detection that IP/is still fucked.

                                                                                For those of you listed that are intrested in this kida of tech, I don;t sell it but I do, do consulting ;)

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                                                                                  • cyberpunk
                                                                                    Confirmed User
                                                                                    • Feb 2001
                                                                                    • 1377
                                                                                    #121
                                                                                    There are several vendors that sell the hardware/software solutions for this. My self I'm an engineer that has deployed these systems before. I'm actully presenting at a security confrence next month and this part of the material I'm presenting. Can't say much more without crossing the line between my non-adult life and 'cyberpunk' Those that know of me in both worlds can attest to level of expertise ;)


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                                                                                      • cyberpunk
                                                                                        Confirmed User
                                                                                        • Feb 2001
                                                                                        • 1377
                                                                                        #122
                                                                                        For that are courious, aobut such solutions your not getting in the door for under 100k for a soliton that can filter a 2G DoS directed to any given IP and still have the sites on it still reachable by legit traffic. This would be jsut for the gear not including the cost of and engineer ( staff or cosultant) that knows how to manage/build the solution.
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                                                                                          • maddox
                                                                                            Confirmed User
                                                                                            • Jan 2004
                                                                                            • 648
                                                                                            #123
                                                                                            dude, only ISPRIME, I host at isprime my most important sites and they are always on top of my things

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                                                                                              • maddox
                                                                                                Confirmed User
                                                                                                • Jan 2004
                                                                                                • 648
                                                                                                #124
                                                                                                also, from the listed companies I know only webair and hahahahahaha. I had an account with webair and they sucked, support was poor and I resigned. The hahahahahaha has some serious network problems not so long time ago,

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                                                                                                  • maddox
                                                                                                    Confirmed User
                                                                                                    • Jan 2004
                                                                                                    • 648
                                                                                                    #125
                                                                                                    Originally posted by FiberNexus
                                                                                                    Why, because I care about ?my- company/customers and don?t want to just sign up with ?webair? because they have the most votes on the list? You mean I?m going to be trouble because I wanted to know more about the networks of the companies that I might host with? Truthfully though? I just have a lot of equipment and am trying to find the *right* home for my stuff. If my provider keeps the network operating properly and up 100% of the time they?ll only hear from me during holidays (saying thanks) and when I need the occasional reboot/paid service. I wan a low-latency, high-speed, mission-critical network along with managed services provided by only the most competent of the providers.



                                                                                                    I?m just trying to get some facts straight so that I come to you with right questions .


                                                                                                    I couldn?t agree more . If they keep the network going, no blips, then everything is great. Unfortunately most hosts can?t seem to do this heh.



                                                                                                    I meant in terms of rack space, power, and bandwidth on larger commits. Compared to other datacenters I?ve been in (the NYC area) they are incredibly cheap. NYC space and power cost absolutely premium rates. .
                                                                                                    contact me on icq 241091072 and I will give you some more info you need

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                                                                                                      • Juicy D. Links
                                                                                                        So Fucking Banned
                                                                                                        • Apr 2001
                                                                                                        • 122992
                                                                                                        #126
                                                                                                        Fiber where in NY you from bro? I am from Long Island

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                                                                                                          • Juicy D. Links
                                                                                                            So Fucking Banned
                                                                                                            • Apr 2001
                                                                                                            • 122992
                                                                                                            #127
                                                                                                            Fiber hit me up yo lets go chilllllll

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                                                                                                              • Turboface
                                                                                                                Back in Black
                                                                                                                • Mar 2002
                                                                                                                • 9976
                                                                                                                #128
                                                                                                                After jumping around for a few years, I finally found a home with WebAir. I've been with them for over 3 years now.

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                                                                                                                  • CybermedAndy
                                                                                                                    Confirmed User
                                                                                                                    • Jul 2004
                                                                                                                    • 4170
                                                                                                                    #129
                                                                                                                    Gotta give my vote to webair, due to Mike always being on top of things and easy to deal with. Same with Will and Sagi there

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                                                                                                                      • Snake Doctor
                                                                                                                        I'm Lenny2 Bitch
                                                                                                                        • Mar 2001
                                                                                                                        • 13449
                                                                                                                        #130
                                                                                                                        Originally posted by SpeakEasy
                                                                                                                        I pitty the host that ends up dealing with this guy.....I smell Nothing but trouble down the road
                                                                                                                        Don't listen to this moron.

                                                                                                                        Last time I changed hosting companies I asked the owner so many questions over so many days that he thought I was starting a hosting company and just trying to get info from the competition

                                                                                                                        Smart shoppers make for good customers, since there won't be any surprises down the road.
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                                                                                                                          • NaughtyAce
                                                                                                                            Traffic - Protect Content
                                                                                                                            • Aug 2003
                                                                                                                            • 1482
                                                                                                                            #131
                                                                                                                            We've been with Jupiter for almost 6 years now and I can't tell you how happy we are with them. They have a team of great guys for you to work with and many times go above and beyond what is necessary to help your business grow. We fully trust them with our business and will continue to trust and use them for years to come.
                                                                                                                            Be careful with your decision in this regard as I do notice a lot of multiple sigs floating around in this voting system here.All these companies from what I hear are good, but my vote is for Jupiter. I would look at the serious votes and get an opinion on who is serious from someone at GFY.
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                                                                                                                              • Number1Thumb
                                                                                                                                Confirmed User
                                                                                                                                • Feb 2003
                                                                                                                                • 1135
                                                                                                                                #132
                                                                                                                                Fibernexus, for one that poll is hilarious check the names who voted. Secondly isprime is in telehouse now, and the new Weehawken, NJ datacenter is completed and the move begins shortly. The datacenter is all theirs. Natnet and Isprime are the ones worth consideration.

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                                                                                                                                  • ronbotx
                                                                                                                                    Registered User
                                                                                                                                    • Jan 2002
                                                                                                                                    • 1634
                                                                                                                                    #133
                                                                                                                                    Swiftwill run by Dweeks is the best and MOST ETHICAL host around. They don't sell out spammers and scumbags unlike several on the list......

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                                                                                                                                      • Sausage
                                                                                                                                        Confirmed User
                                                                                                                                        • Oct 2002
                                                                                                                                        • 3012
                                                                                                                                        #134
                                                                                                                                        I think the sheer volume of people suggesting Webair demonstrates their lack of understanding of hosting options, and points towards a general ignorance of the many important factors of hosting.

                                                                                                                                        Don't get me wrong, I have two boxes with webair that house a lot of my tgp/traffic stuff, and I am more than happy with the hosting and level of support for the price I pay. But, webair does not suit the needs of the original poster.

                                                                                                                                        Adding to my original post, apart from Natnet and Isprime, jupiter actually looks really solid, and while I have no experience with them their network looks tighter than I thought. They may be worth a look in aswell.
                                                                                                                                        Last edited by Sausage; 01-28-2006, 08:15 PM.
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                                                                                                                                          • ronbotx
                                                                                                                                            Registered User
                                                                                                                                            • Jan 2002
                                                                                                                                            • 1634
                                                                                                                                            #135
                                                                                                                                            Originally posted by Sausage
                                                                                                                                            I think the sheer volume of people suggesting Webair demonstrates their lack of understanding of hosting options, and points towards a general ignorance of the many important factors of hosting.

                                                                                                                                            Don't get me wrong, I have two boxes with webair that house a lot of my tgp/traffic stuff, and I am more than happy with the hosting and level of support for the price I pay. But, webair does not suit the needs of the original poster.

                                                                                                                                            Adding to my original post, apart from Natnet and Isprime, jupiter actually looks really solid, and while I have no experience with them their network looks tighter than I thought. They may be worth a look in aswell.
                                                                                                                                            In regards to item #9, Integrity.... and Webair.

                                                                                                                                            Do you want to host with a company that provides Spam Support Services to the 4th worst spammer in the world.... Alexy Panov? Check out this douchebag's bio:
                                                                                                                                            http://www.spamhaus.org/rokso/listin...0-%20ckync.com
                                                                                                                                            http://www.spamhaus.org/statistics/spammers.lasso

                                                                                                                                            Or course that doesn't include the three additional ROKSO spammers they are currently hosting.
                                                                                                                                            http://www.spamhaus.org/SBL/listings...isp=webair.com
                                                                                                                                            and the 19 total SBL listings.

                                                                                                                                            Can't comment on their technical expertise because I have never hosted there and NEVER will, but IMHO they suck in the integrity department.

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                                                                                                                                              • asdfqwer
                                                                                                                                                Confirmed User
                                                                                                                                                • Jul 2003
                                                                                                                                                • 431
                                                                                                                                                #136
                                                                                                                                                I know Cisco rep on another forum,also toplayer rep is posting as well,however i am not aware of their adult estate

                                                                                                                                                Yes anything less than 100k wont handle 2gbits+ attack,for example cisco's ddos solution for 70k was almost useless

                                                                                                                                                Originally posted by cyberpunk
                                                                                                                                                There are several vendors that sell the hardware/software solutions for this. My self I'm an engineer that has deployed these systems before. I'm actully presenting at a security confrence next month and this part of the material I'm presenting. Can't say much more without crossing the line between my non-adult life and 'cyberpunk' Those that know of me in both worlds can attest to level of expertise ;)


                                                                                                                                                Are you looking to buy?

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                                                                                                                                                  • asdfqwer
                                                                                                                                                    Confirmed User
                                                                                                                                                    • Jul 2003
                                                                                                                                                    • 431
                                                                                                                                                    #137
                                                                                                                                                    Exactly,ask as many questions as you need,its not something you can buy and then ask for refund,your business will never be refunded


                                                                                                                                                    Fibernexus i forgot one more top player www.rackmy.com

                                                                                                                                                    Originally posted by NaughtyAce
                                                                                                                                                    We've been with Jupiter for almost 6 years now and I can't tell you how happy we are with them. They have a team of great guys for you to work with and many times go above and beyond what is necessary to help your business grow. We fully trust them with our business and will continue to trust and use them for years to come.
                                                                                                                                                    Be careful with your decision in this regard as I do notice a lot of multiple sigs floating around in this voting system here.All these companies from what I hear are good, but my vote is for Jupiter. I would look at the serious votes and get an opinion on who is serious from someone at GFY.

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                                                                                                                                                      • FrankWhite
                                                                                                                                                        Confirmed User
                                                                                                                                                        • Nov 2002
                                                                                                                                                        • 3540
                                                                                                                                                        #138
                                                                                                                                                        Fibernexus whatever happen to FoundryNAP ?

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                                                                                                                                                          • MrVids
                                                                                                                                                            i am a meat popsicle
                                                                                                                                                            • Jan 2005
                                                                                                                                                            • 1070
                                                                                                                                                            #139
                                                                                                                                                            Originally posted by Sausage
                                                                                                                                                            Isprime and NationalNet really belong in their own list. You can't compare the likes of Isprime and Natnet with those others ... they are for mission critical stuff.

                                                                                                                                                            The others are discount hosts of varying degrees.

                                                                                                                                                            For what you are describing I think you should really skip straight to one of those two. They are proven, and while they are more expensive you definitely are getting what you pay for.

                                                                                                                                                            truer words have never been spoken, well said

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                                                                                                                                                              • cyberpunk
                                                                                                                                                                Confirmed User
                                                                                                                                                                • Feb 2001
                                                                                                                                                                • 1377
                                                                                                                                                                #140
                                                                                                                                                                Originally posted by asdfqwer
                                                                                                                                                                I know Cisco rep on another forum,also toplayer rep is posting as well,however i am not aware of their adult estate

                                                                                                                                                                Yes anything less than 100k wont handle 2gbits+ attack,for example cisco's ddos solution for 70k was almost useless

                                                                                                                                                                Yeah the cisco guard IMO is junk, for 70k thya claim 1G of protection but infact you only get just over 400M I think it was at 40byte packets, I think it was, would have to double my notes to be sure, but htat fairly close. The solution I'm prefering right now will get you 2G @ 40byte ptks for about 80k for the mitagation hardware, plus the cost of detection software (figure anohter 50k)
                                                                                                                                                                POST NO ADS!

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                                                                                                                                                                  • lazycash
                                                                                                                                                                    Troll Patrol
                                                                                                                                                                    • Aug 2002
                                                                                                                                                                    • 15214
                                                                                                                                                                    #141
                                                                                                                                                                    I'd go with FoundryNap, clearly the leader of the bunch.
                                                                                                                                                                    "WTF, on google you can find the answer to every question in human history, EXCEPT how to convert cams..

                                                                                                                                                                    Its crazy..."

                                                                                                                                                                    VenusBlogger

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                                                                                                                                                                      • SexToyDave
                                                                                                                                                                        Registered User
                                                                                                                                                                        • Jul 2005
                                                                                                                                                                        • 98
                                                                                                                                                                        #142
                                                                                                                                                                        jupiter has been good to me

                                                                                                                                                                        I moved from another hosting company to Jupiter and now get better service and lower prices!
                                                                                                                                                                        And sales Dude Poppy is the shiznit!
                                                                                                                                                                        Also, started working with Jupiter's programmers about a new project and they were great. Much better than the other programmers I was interviewing.

                                                                                                                                                                        SEXTOY.com
                                                                                                                                                                        Dave Levine

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                                                                                                                                                                          • chaze
                                                                                                                                                                            Confirmed User
                                                                                                                                                                            • Aug 2002
                                                                                                                                                                            • 9774
                                                                                                                                                                            #143
                                                                                                                                                                            We where hosting adult sites before some of these names where even thought of

                                                                                                                                                                            http://www.dwhs.com

                                                                                                                                                                            No respect
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                                                                                                                                                                              • TurboAngel
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                                                                                                                                                                                • Jun 2003
                                                                                                                                                                                • 30122
                                                                                                                                                                                #144
                                                                                                                                                                                Originally posted by Turboface
                                                                                                                                                                                After jumping around for a few years, I finally found a home with WebAir. I've been with them for over 3 years now.


                                                                                                                                                                                Try 5 years my love. Mike is the shit!


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                                                                                                                                                                                  • Jace
                                                                                                                                                                                    FBOP Class Of 2013
                                                                                                                                                                                    • Jan 2004
                                                                                                                                                                                    • 35562
                                                                                                                                                                                    #145
                                                                                                                                                                                    jeez, i can't believe the amount of people that didn't catch who FiberNexus is.....

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                                                                                                                                                                                      • SpeakEasy
                                                                                                                                                                                        Confirmed User
                                                                                                                                                                                        • Sep 2002
                                                                                                                                                                                        • 2681
                                                                                                                                                                                        #146
                                                                                                                                                                                        Originally posted by Lenny2
                                                                                                                                                                                        Don't listen to this moron.

                                                                                                                                                                                        Last time I changed hosting companies I asked the owner so many questions over so many days that he thought I was starting a hosting company and just trying to get info from the competition

                                                                                                                                                                                        Smart shoppers make for good customers, since there won't be any surprises down the road.

                                                                                                                                                                                        Dude you are the total MORON..... This guy is Magg from Foundrynap, a known scammer. Juicy busted his ass, as well as others, and if you took your head out of your ass for a minute you would have read between the lines of my post. I NEVER once said that asking questions or gaining knowledge was a bad thing. All I said was,
                                                                                                                                                                                        "I pitty the host that ends up dealing with this guy.....I smell Nothing but trouble down the road"

                                                                                                                                                                                        As it turns out I was 100% correct, and I smelt it from his very first post. Now that both Magg and you have been humbled, you can go back to trolling, nothing left to talk about here.....


                                                                                                                                                                                        BTW have all of you checked out the cool tool at Speak Easy ? It's the best speed terster in the biz if I don't say so myself.
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