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  • gfx3
    Confirmed User
    • Nov 2005
    • 1685

    #1

    ARS denied me because the word lolita is on my site

    Just got this mail from them after I applied yesterday for an account.
    I was very surprised to read this since it's the first time a sponsor rejected my site.
    For the record my is is clean and I don't promote kiddie porn neither are there links listed to under age girls.



    Thank you for applying to become an ARS Publisher.
    Your application has been DENIED for the following reason(s):

    The word lolita was found on http://www.site.com
    The word young girl was found on http://www.site.com


    My god the term "young girl" is not allowed? How should one describe a teen with braces? How should one decribe the milton twins?
    Is Raven Riley not a young girl? Didn't knew she was a milf

    Now for the term lolita, just because some pedofiles use this term should it be a banned term to describe 25 year old women who dress up as a schoolgirl with a lollipop in their mouth? Because that is what a lolita is.

    I really wonder if they do proper site reviews at ars, because if they did they would have seen everything is legit.

    So far for the drama

    I mailed them and seriously hope they will change their mind.

    GFX3
  • Hornydog4cooter
    Confirmed User
    • Jan 2005
    • 2859

    #2
    If it walks like and quacks like must be.......

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    • JamesK2
      Confirmed User
      • Aug 2004
      • 6589

      #3
      Raven Riley is either a "girl" or a "young woman", a "young girl" is in most cases 1-14 year olds.

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      • Lee
        Confirmed User
        • Aug 2002
        • 2977

        #4
        Its just as well Nabakov didnt pick a more common name like Jane or sarah or something.

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        • JamesK2
          Confirmed User
          • Aug 2004
          • 6589

          #5
          For lolita, as you said the term has been totally abused in adult business. I can understand if they don't want to work with sites using that term. Just my opinion

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          • SomeCreep
            :glugglug
            • Mar 2003
            • 26118

            #6
            Originally posted by gfx3
            Just got this mail from them after I applied yesterday for an account.
            I was very surprised to read this since it's the first time a sponsor rejected my site.
            For the record my is is clean and I don't promote kiddie porn neither are there links listed to under age girls.
            I'm not surprised. "Lolita" is a CP keyword. Stop using it and you wont have any problems.

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            • davethetruth
              Confirmed User
              • Jan 2004
              • 2806

              #7
              It's not just ARS, just so you know. They most likely have business dealings with other companies that won't allow those terms on the site. These types of restrictions and regulations are becoming widespread.
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              • davethetruth
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                • Jan 2004
                • 2806

                #8
                Just a hint:
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                • Michael O
                  More Cowbell
                  • Jul 2001
                  • 10607

                  #9
                  Its been in their terms for years.
                  Young girl/young teen describes someone that is underage.
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                  • gfx3
                    Confirmed User
                    • Nov 2005
                    • 1685

                    #10
                    I mailed them and explained I'm using these terms to have variation in my descriptions.

                    Teen
                    Teenager,
                    Woman,
                    Young Woman
                    Milf
                    Older woman
                    Mature lady

                    Well one gets bored when he visits each day so the more terms the better.
                    I also choose not to refer to women as bitches, sluts and so on. That is why I have to be a bit more creative and use lolita, young girl etc...

                    With Cameron I can use princess so that's a nice change
                    Last edited by gfx3; 01-25-2006, 10:44 AM.

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                    • lazycash
                      Troll Patrol
                      • Aug 2002
                      • 15214

                      #11
                      Where have you been, over a year ago most programs distanced themselves from anything using the word "lolita". Sponsor programs don't have endless amounts of time to check and continuously monitor affiliate sites. They simply place a few rules to abide by, if you can't at least follow them then don't expect them to accept you.
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                      • Harmon
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                        • Mar 2004
                        • 20012

                        #12
                        I think it's funny that you are actually surprised. That term has been used for CP for a very long time, and as someone stated above, this is not something new. If you look at banned words in TOS, usually lolita is right up there as one of the first terms you can not use. Nothing new here...
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                        • the Shemp
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                          • Nov 2001
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                          #13
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                          • gfx3
                            Confirmed User
                            • Nov 2005
                            • 1685

                            #14
                            Originally posted by lazycash
                            Where have you been, over a year ago most programs distanced themselves from anything using the word "lolita". I'm sure your site is legit, but why not get a new domain and invest your time and money into developing something with no issues. Sponsor programs don't have endless amounts of time to check and continuously monitor affiliate sites. They simply place a few rules to abide by, if you can't at least follow them then don't expect them to accept you.
                            My domain isn't the problem, I run a text tgp and 1 link out 1000 you will find the word lolita that is why they denied my application.
                            My domain doesn't even have the word sex in it.

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                            • beemk
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                              • Jan 2002
                              • 20829

                              #15
                              i got my account suspended AFTER i signed up for a sponsor because a tgp that i used for my site url had a trade with lolita mpegs. this was while i had a PPC campaign running. needless to say i wont be promoting them anymore. consider yourself lucky they actually reviewed the app and told you ahead of time.
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                              • Manowar
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                                • Dec 2003
                                • 71528

                                #16
                                Originally posted by beemk
                                i got my account suspended AFTER i signed up for a sponsor because a tgp that i used for my site url had a trade with lolita mpegs. this was while i had a PPC campaign running. needless to say i wont be promoting them anymore. consider yourself lucky they actually reviewed the app and told you ahead of time.
                                damn

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                                • gfx3
                                  Confirmed User
                                  • Nov 2005
                                  • 1685

                                  #17
                                  Originally posted by beemk
                                  i got my account suspended AFTER i signed up for a sponsor because a tgp that i used for my site url had a trade with lolita mpegs. this was while i had a PPC campaign running. needless to say i wont be promoting them anymore. consider yourself lucky they actually reviewed the app and told you ahead of time.
                                  Good thing there are enough sponsors. After I got their mail I went to askjolene and typed in the word lolita, it gave me 1000's of galleries with regular porn. It's the pedofiles who are abusing the term and not the adult biz.

                                  Some are describing teens as "tiny petite young schoolgirls" that sounds even worse than "young girl".

                                  If all sponsors made an issue out of it I would remove all lolita words but for just one I'm not going to filter thousands of links.

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                                  • detoxed
                                    vip member
                                    • Jan 2003
                                    • 17798

                                    #18
                                    Originally posted by gfx3
                                    Just got this mail from them after I applied yesterday for an account.
                                    I was very surprised to read this since it's the first time a sponsor rejected my site.
                                    For the record my is is clean and I don't promote kiddie porn neither are there links listed to under age girls.



                                    Thank you for applying to become an ARS Publisher.
                                    Your application has been DENIED for the following reason(s):

                                    The word lolita was found on http://www.site.com
                                    The word young girl was found on http://www.site.com


                                    My god the term "young girl" is not allowed? How should one describe a teen with braces? How should one decribe the milton twins?
                                    Is Raven Riley not a young girl? Didn't knew she was a milf

                                    Now for the term lolita, just because some pedofiles use this term should it be a banned term to describe 25 year old women who dress up as a schoolgirl with a lollipop in their mouth? Because that is what a lolita is.

                                    I really wonder if they do proper site reviews at ars, because if they did they would have seen everything is legit.

                                    So far for the drama

                                    I mailed them and seriously hope they will change their mind.

                                    GFX3

                                    I hope they dont change their mind.. its up to them, they dont want their links next to the word lolita.

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                                    • woj
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                                      • Jul 2002
                                      • 47880

                                      #19
                                      just remove any references to it, and try again...
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                                      • JamesK2
                                        Confirmed User
                                        • Aug 2004
                                        • 6589

                                        #20
                                        Originally posted by gfx3
                                        Good thing there are enough sponsors. After I got their mail I went to askjolene and typed in the word lolita, it gave me 1000's of galleries with regular porn. It's the pedofiles who are abusing the term and not the adult biz.
                                        Not just pedofiles, webmaster pedofiles. All the CP sites were using lolita terms that's basically what gave the term a bad name

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                                        • Barefootsies
                                          Choice is an Illusion
                                          • Feb 2005
                                          • 42635

                                          #21
                                          Originally posted by lazycash
                                          Where have you been, over a year ago most programs distanced themselves from anything using the word "lolita". Sponsor programs don't have endless amounts of time to check and continuously monitor affiliate sites. They simply place a few rules to abide by, if you can't at least follow them then don't expect them to accept you.
                                          It's been more than a year. A lot of sites have been distancing themselves for it a WHOLE lot longer. It's been commonly known for some time. Even some sites will not all 'teen' in their submissions. You have to change to coed, or something else. Even in the 18 teen, etc. Not all adult, but a good portion of it's been moving this way for some time.

                                          Lolita's common for CP. So as the other person said, remove CP type things like 'lolita' and you should be fine.

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                                          • WiredGuy
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                                            • Aug 2002
                                            • 34515

                                            #22
                                            Now for the term lolita, just because some pedofiles use this term should it be a banned term to describe 25 year old women who dress up as a schoolgirl with a lollipop in their mouth?
                                            If you seriously believe that's whats implied by lolita, then you are sadly mistaken. I agree with ARS' position on this, good for them.

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                                            • willysbirthday
                                              Confirmed User
                                              • Feb 2004
                                              • 436

                                              #23
                                              since you filtered your actual domain out of your post, I assume you do feel guilty / wish to hide something.

                                              that ARS is just a bot filter.. fix it and resubmit.

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                                              • Sosa
                                                In Tushy Land
                                                • Oct 2002
                                                • 40149

                                                #24
                                                I agree with ARS...

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                                                • gfx3
                                                  Confirmed User
                                                  • Nov 2005
                                                  • 1685

                                                  #25
                                                  Originally posted by willysbirthday
                                                  since you filtered your actual domain out of your post, I assume you do feel guilty / wish to hide something.

                                                  that ARS is just a bot filter.. fix it and resubmit.

                                                  life goes on ....
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                                                  • Bugbee
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                                                    • Jun 2004
                                                    • 4609

                                                    #26
                                                    they saved you the trouble both paycom and ccbill wont process a site they fing the L word on either
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                                                    • 8 Characters
                                                      So Fucking Banned
                                                      • Jan 2005
                                                      • 2336

                                                      #27
                                                      I'd rather CP sites were selling 18+ material than not. I say, MARKET YOUR LEGAL PORN AS CHILD PORN - maybe those buyers will realize that overage girls are nice too... and thus, we have solved the ENTIRE problem.

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                                                      • EvilFubAr
                                                        Confirmed User
                                                        • May 2003
                                                        • 1141

                                                        #28
                                                        Submit a clean site and you will be good to go. However we will not allow any exceptions to our terms of service.

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                                                        • Doctor Dre
                                                          Too lazy to set a custom title
                                                          • Jan 2001
                                                          • 51692

                                                          #29
                                                          Lolita used to be acceptable years ago, but now it's refused by the processors.
                                                          Originally posted by rayadp05
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                                                          • Webby
                                                            Too lazy to set a custom title
                                                            • Oct 2002
                                                            • 14956

                                                            #30
                                                            The "l" word, least on the net, is too closely aligned with pedo.

                                                            Anything that remotely suggests "pedo"... like "young" is in the same category. Even "teen" gets contentious if this is not qualified in other ways.

                                                            I'd sure agree with ARS on their decision. Try cleaning up the site of these words and try again.
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                                                            • EvilFubAr
                                                              Confirmed User
                                                              • May 2003
                                                              • 1141

                                                              #31
                                                              Applications and sites are reviewed by a combination of auto scripts and webmaster supports' own review of the application. We simply can not allow those terms to be used to promote the ARS portfolio.

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                                                              • DutchTeenCash
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                                                                • Feb 2003
                                                                • 21684

                                                                #32
                                                                Originally posted by Sosa
                                                                I agree with ARS...
                                                                same here

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                                                                • gfx3
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                                                                  • Nov 2005
                                                                  • 1685

                                                                  #33
                                                                  If the word lolita would be that bad google would have banned it. Besides this isn't just about lolita, you can't even write young girl.
                                                                  I guess ARS is a very conservative porn selling company or they has trouble in the past with the word lolita and got scared.
                                                                  I mentioned my url in the post above and still don't see the real harm in using the word to describe 25 year olds licking lollipops from time to time.

                                                                  I feel strongly about the fact that pedofiles abused the word and not the adult industry. As long there isn't a law who forbids it to use I will keep using it.

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                                                                  • gfx3
                                                                    Confirmed User
                                                                    • Nov 2005
                                                                    • 1685

                                                                    #34
                                                                    Originally posted by EvilFubAr
                                                                    Submit a clean site and you will be good to go. However we will not allow any exceptions to our terms of service.
                                                                    OK Fubar, you are the first to make trouble about this (in Europe people are more relaxed about the term I think). And I feel my site is ultra clean and stand behind it. I like to call a things as I see them, a 18 year old girl with braces is a young girl. A 14 year old would be a child or a kid.

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                                                                    • Webby
                                                                      Too lazy to set a custom title
                                                                      • Oct 2002
                                                                      • 14956

                                                                      #35
                                                                      Originally posted by gfx3
                                                                      If the word lolita would be that bad google would have banned it. Besides this isn't just about lolita, you can't even write young girl.
                                                                      I guess ARS is a very conservative porn selling company or they has trouble in the past with the word lolita and got scared.
                                                                      I mentioned my url in the post above and still don't see the real harm in using the word to describe 25 year olds licking lollipops from time to time.

                                                                      I feel strongly about the fact that pedofiles abused the word and not the adult industry. As long there isn't a law who forbids it to use I will keep using it.
                                                                      There is nothing wrong with the word Lolita and why should Google ban it? The problem starts when ya have an website which is clearly adult and using that term. True, pedo webmasters have abused the word, but it's extremely rare to thing of an adult site that would have cause to use the word Lolita unless they were pandering to a pedo market.

                                                                      The term "young girl", once again, can be borderline - but only within the context of adult websites. Ask yourself, what in normal commonplace thinking, is a "young girl"? Sure suggests someone less than say 18, to me.

                                                                      BTW.. there are also a few major hosts who will pull the plug on adult domains they find that need to use pedo words, - such as lolita. Any webmaster or "experienced surfer" knows damned well what these words mean in net world.
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                                                                      • Trax
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                                                                        • Aug 2001
                                                                        • 14486

                                                                        #36
                                                                        ARS is right. So are the processors who inforce such rules
                                                                        you are attracting pedo traffic
                                                                        this is unnecessary
                                                                        VERY unnecessary indeed

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                                                                        • Bill8
                                                                          Confirmed User
                                                                          • Oct 2001
                                                                          • 1901

                                                                          #37
                                                                          I got a warning from ars about two years ago, before they collapsed and started again, about the term young girl on my sites. Those terms were left over from back in 2000-2001, before the panics started, when you could use those words and people knew you were referring to an 18 to 20 year old. The term was synonymous with teen then.

                                                                          A days work with search and replace tools and I've never heard from them about it again.

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                                                                          • magicmike
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                                                                            • Feb 2003
                                                                            • 2384

                                                                            #38
                                                                            They have terms, try reading them.
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                                                                            • Fah King
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                                                                              • Jul 2005
                                                                              • 676

                                                                              #39
                                                                              I agree with gfx3 on this one.
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                                                                              • RawAlex
                                                                                So Fucking Banned
                                                                                • Oct 2003
                                                                                • 9465

                                                                                #40
                                                                                gfx3. here is simple. Teen is 13-19. Young teen would be, well, 13-15?

                                                                                THINK ABOUT IT!

                                                                                Lolita is clearly CP.

                                                                                THING ABOUT IT!

                                                                                Those are the rules. You don't like it, build for someone else. Simple, no?

                                                                                Alex

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                                                                                • Swippy
                                                                                  Registered User
                                                                                  • Jan 2006
                                                                                  • 26

                                                                                  #41
                                                                                  http://www.asacp.org/best_practices.php
                                                                                  Search all sites that direct traffic to your site and parse any sites that use any of the unacceptable terms ( http://asacp.org/list.html ).

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                                                                                  • bdld
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                                                                                    • Dec 2001
                                                                                    • 11452

                                                                                    #42
                                                                                    ARS is right, and you are wrong. don't use CP words on your site and they should accept you.

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                                                                                    • the Shemp
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                                                                                      • Nov 2001
                                                                                      • 10891

                                                                                      #43
                                                                                      Originally posted by gfx3
                                                                                      I like to call a things as I see them, a 18 year old girl with braces is a young girl. A 14 year old would be a child or a kid.
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                                                                                      • Adult Insider Dave
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                                                                                        • Jun 2005
                                                                                        • 533

                                                                                        #44
                                                                                        Only thing lolita does is draw attention to your site you don't want. In most people's minds it implies underage girl, period. If the general public feels this means and underage girl why use it?
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                                                                                        • gfx3
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                                                                                          • Nov 2005
                                                                                          • 1685

                                                                                          #45
                                                                                          Originally posted by RawAlex
                                                                                          gfx3. here is simple. Teen is 13-19. Young teen would be, well, 13-15?

                                                                                          THINK ABOUT IT!

                                                                                          Lolita is clearly CP.

                                                                                          THING ABOUT IT!

                                                                                          Those are the rules. You don't like it, build for someone else. Simple, no?

                                                                                          Alex
                                                                                          From what you are saying teen = 13-19, under 18 = illegal so teen = illegal?

                                                                                          A lolita = Adult person who dresses up (pretending to be) a schoolgirl/ young girl.

                                                                                          Besides from what I read, "young girl" was cool to use in 2000-2001 but things have changed and now it's isn't anymore.

                                                                                          Anyway enough said, this could be an endless discussion. As long as there aren't any strict guidelines about it or laws everybody should make up his own mind.

                                                                                          Just checked on worldsex.com, typed the L word in their searchbox and hey guess what 50 results with links. So let's leave this debate open.

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                                                                                          • Adult Insider Dave
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                                                                                            • Jun 2005
                                                                                            • 533

                                                                                            #46
                                                                                            btw, i don't think anyone posted it yet so i will.

                                                                                            Dictionary.com definition of Lolita:

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                                                                                            • Webby
                                                                                              Too lazy to set a custom title
                                                                                              • Oct 2002
                                                                                              • 14956

                                                                                              #47
                                                                                              Originally posted by Swippy
                                                                                              http://www.asacp.org/best_practices.php
                                                                                              Search all sites that direct traffic to your site and parse any sites that use any of the unacceptable terms ( http://asacp.org/list.html ).
                                                                                              Good clues there Swippy!

                                                                                              Ironic they have the word "minors" on that list I've been using that word on warning pages for years - instead of "underage" or other closely related terms.

                                                                                              OK.. So we now got to say stuff like "persons who are under 18 years of age"
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                                                                                              • gfx3
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                                                                                                • Nov 2005
                                                                                                • 1685

                                                                                                #48
                                                                                                Originally posted by the Shemp
                                                                                                you can't be serious?
                                                                                                Sure I am, I'm from Europe. Young girl or teenager means exactly the same in my native language wich is Dutch. That is why I don't see the harm in it.
                                                                                                Perhaps in the US it's different, cultural language difference could be the case.

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                                                                                                • sandman!
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                                                                                                  • Mar 2001
                                                                                                  • 15427

                                                                                                  #49
                                                                                                  this argument has been going on forever about the word lolita visa/mc a few years ago banned the word and sponsors banned the word also.

                                                                                                  has nothing to do with anything else its pure biz everyone needs to process visa/mc there used to be a ton of teen tgp's with the word lolita in them years ago most people gave up the domains because sponsors would not take traffic from the domains because of visa/mc rules.
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                                                                                                  • rick-e
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                                                                                                    • Nov 2005
                                                                                                    • 19935

                                                                                                    #50
                                                                                                    ARS are right, you should not be using those terms, remove lolita and instead of young girl, use 18year old girl or something.

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