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  • mkx
    Confirmed User
    • Nov 2003
    • 4001
    #1

    2257 question

    Would problems arise if your only 2257 documentation is a picture or video of the girl holding her identification up, and a picture / scan of the identification? Or is paperwork and a model release necessary. If it's legit, but you don't have the model release, yet the girl knows she is being filmed, could there be problems in the future if the girl claims she didn't agree to be filmed? Would these problems be civil or criminal?

    Hope some of you can share your opinions and experience on this matter.
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    • aico
      Moo Moo Cow
      • Mar 2004
      • 14748
      #2
      It started out as a 2257 question then turned into a legal one. Yes, there can be great problems in the future, to answer your question. You need a model release, always.

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        • mkx
          Confirmed User
          • Nov 2003
          • 4001
          #3
          Civil or criminal?

          Yah it didn't give me a chance to edit the title.

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            • halfpint
              GFY's Halfpint
              • Jun 2007
              • 15223
              #4
              Yep even over here in the UK you need a model release form and that also counts for non nude pics

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                • aico
                  Moo Moo Cow
                  • Mar 2004
                  • 14748
                  #5
                  Originally posted by mkx
                  Civil or criminal?

                  Yah it didn't give me a chance to edit the title.
                  without a model release you can't legally use the photos, because the model has not released them to you for use. You can take all the photos you want without a model release, you just can't legally use them.

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                    • After Shock Media
                      It's coming look busy
                      • Mar 2001
                      • 35299
                      #6
                      Technically you need all of her real names, alias's, stage names, so forth in paperwork form.

                      Civil wise, no release = possible usage lawsuit.

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                        • mkx
                          Confirmed User
                          • Nov 2003
                          • 4001
                          #7
                          well what if civilly there was nothing to worry about, could there be criminal liabilities?

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                            • aico
                              Moo Moo Cow
                              • Mar 2004
                              • 14748
                              #8
                              Originally posted by mkx
                              well what if civilly there was nothing to worry about, could there be criminal liabilities?
                              with no release it is impossible for there to be "civilly" nothing to worry about.

                              you are also not meeting the requirements for 2257. Model release documents the names and the date of the shoot, so that you aren't shoot girls when they are 16 and then using those photos two years later when their IDs state they are 18.

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                                • After Shock Media
                                  It's coming look busy
                                  • Mar 2001
                                  • 35299
                                  #9
                                  You need to meet the paperwork requirements some of which are.

                                  Current name, married names, sur names, stage names, any aliases used.
                                  Cross refferencing of all material of her you are using.
                                  Date of the shoot built into the other cross refferencing.
                                  So forth.

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                                    • mkx
                                      Confirmed User
                                      • Nov 2003
                                      • 4001
                                      #10
                                      I see, while if the girl holds up her drivers lic on video b4 you do the shoot then i am just trying to make sure that it will be rare that a court is going to convict criminal charges since proof that the girl is over 18 at the time of shoot is there, just in a different method.

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                                        • madleinx
                                          Confirmed User
                                          • Feb 2005
                                          • 102
                                          #11
                                          You don't need a model release for 2257. You do need one in case she ever decides to claim that you filmed her without permission.

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                                            • mkx
                                              Confirmed User
                                              • Nov 2003
                                              • 4001
                                              #12
                                              and of course if she claims you filmed her without permission it would only be a civil issue, not criminal right?

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