So I put my Denon AVR-3802 up for sale

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  • Yngwie
    I am an Alien from space
    • May 2003
    • 11118

    #1

    So I put my Denon AVR-3802 up for sale

    on bargainhunter.ca, I chose MY town and out an ad in that section. I get an email concerning my ad. Some person from god knows where overseas is interested and willing to give me $1500 for my home theatre reciever.

    Ok, so all sounds good, right? well, I had a bad feeling about this since the first email, but still kept in contact. This person gets a money order from USPS.com for $1500usd, I get the confirmation email that stated that I must send the package and get a tracking #. After that I would have to email them the tracking # so they can make sure that I sent the item in question.

    So I check the buyer's infor on the USPS confirmation mail. I see a name, part of the credit card #, address, state etc..

    So I decide to investigate further. I check with USA 411 for the name that was on the credit card that was used to buy the money order.. Hmmm.. no one by that name in Rochester, NY (the state that was given on the credit card info) or in the entire USA. ok so maybe this person is unlisted so I do some more research and look for the street that was mentioned (Fria DR in Rochester, NY)> Guess what? there is no street by that name in Rochester or anywhere in NY.

    By this point I'm feeling very weary about this whole deal. I'm expected to send something I paid $2600 for without actually having gotten the money for it? Just feel safe that I will recieve my money after that I sent it? Fuck that! So I call USPS to do more research and try to confirm that this money order is legit and not a fake email that LOOKS legit. What does the retarded cu nt at USPS tell me?

    "Well, I can't confirm that, but we did get 1000's of calls today concerning money orders so I can say that it's legit"

    So I tell the retard "How can you say it's legit when you never asked for my name or the name of the person that made this money order? How can you just tell me that it's legit without having any info?"

    So she says "all I can say is that it's real"

    I say "ok, whatever" and hang up.

    The buyer emails me back with the shipping documents and tells me "print 3 copies, go to your nearest fedex and ship it"

    He continues by saying "I want this shipped by tomorrow"

    Well, sorry to say, but I am not shipping a damn thing without knowing full fucking well that I will get my $1500. I don't trust people and I sure as hell am not gonna trust him or her.

    I want to sell this thing so I could upgrade, but I sure as hell am not going to just give it away. This isn't some crappy Citizens equipment and I worked hard for it.

    Not to mention that the name on the credit card is not even the same as the buyer's name. Hell, not even the same damn place. I gave this person my phone # to call me to confirm everything, but they never called so that raised another red flag.

    Anyone wanna buy it? $1400 and it's your. It's like bran new (I baby my electronics lol)
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  • Yngwie
    I am an Alien from space
    • May 2003
    • 11118

    #2
    if this person thinks that I'm an idiot that will just ship this item out without getting any money they better think again. I'm not about to get scammed.
    ICQ: 16544251 - Skype: gator37 @ eastlink.ca - email: yngwie @ isys.ca

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    • Yngwie
      I am an Alien from space
      • May 2003
      • 11118

      #3
      would help if the person's name on the credit card would actually exist and was the same name and address as the actual buyer. Of course, the buyer's address is sure as hell not from the USA. like wtf is

      BJ, FLCH, estate shagari
      Akinogun b/stop, Ipaja
      Lagos,
      NG
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      • the Shemp
        congrats to the winners
        • Nov 2001
        • 10891

        #4
        run the shipping adress in a search engine and see if its a mailbox rental place.
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        • Yngwie
          I am an Alien from space
          • May 2003
          • 11118

          #5
          hmm.. Nigeria? fuck that shit
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          • Yngwie
            I am an Alien from space
            • May 2003
            • 11118

            #6
            Originally posted by the Shemp
            run the shipping adress in a search engine and see if its a mailbox rental place.
            that's what I'm doing right now. So far i know it's in nigeria and that alone makes me feel better that I actually researched things before I shipped anything out
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            • the Shemp
              congrats to the winners
              • Nov 2001
              • 10891

              #7
              Originally posted by Yngwie
              that's what I'm doing right now. So far i know it's in nigeria and that alone makes me feel better that I actually researched things before I shipped anything out
              well, i wouldnt ship it..how did he buy a USPS money order in Nigeria, or am i confused?
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              • Yngwie
                I am an Alien from space
                • May 2003
                • 11118

                #8
                I mean why in the hell would a person from overseas go to bargainhunter.ca which is obviously Canadian then go to the Sudbury, Ontario section of the site (a small town) and buy something like this? Right there I see this as a scam and I didn't feel right about it right from that point.
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                • Yngwie
                  I am an Alien from space
                  • May 2003
                  • 11118

                  #9
                  Originally posted by the Shemp
                  well, i wouldnt ship it..how did he buy a USPS money order in Nigeria, or am i confused?
                  I won't be shipping it. I'm not that crazy.. How did he/she buy a money order? well, from what I see on the "confirmation email" from USPS it was bought using a credit card. The address of the card holder was in the states.. on frias DR in rochester, NY. I did a search for that street and it does not exist..Not in rochester, not in any other state. Even did a search for the person's name and there is noone by that name in rochester or anywhere in the USA.
                  ICQ: 16544251 - Skype: gator37 @ eastlink.ca - email: yngwie @ isys.ca

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                  • Yngwie
                    I am an Alien from space
                    • May 2003
                    • 11118

                    #10
                    this is what was on the confirmation email at the bottom.

                    Order Status:

                    Auction Payments Order Available

                    AVAILABLE
                    Order Placed

                    01-20-2006
                    Order Status

                    postal Order Available
                    Paypal Order Approved

                    postal Order Confirmed
                    Billing Information:

                    Status:

                    Processed successfully
                    Card Type

                    MasterCard
                    Card Number
                    5***************

                    Exp. Date
                    7/2009

                    Name on Card
                    Dianna Weygnand

                    Street Address
                    100 FRIAS DR

                    City, State, Zip
                    ROCHESTER,NY,14262

                    Country
                    USA

                    Services Purchased:

                    ItemAmount
                    $1500.00

                    Shipping Fee
                    $00.00

                    Total Amount posted to card
                    $1500.00

                    Item Unit
                    1 Unit

                    Purchased Item Information:

                    Auction site
                    Bargainhunter.ca

                    Phone Number

                    -------------------
                    Item description

                    Denon AVR-3802

                    Seller Information:

                    Name
                    Alain Lalonde

                    Email Address of the seller
                    [email protected]

                    Address
                    ********* (removed by me)

                    city,zip code
                    *********** (removed by me)
                    State
                    ON

                    country
                    Canada
                    ICQ: 16544251 - Skype: gator37 @ eastlink.ca - email: yngwie @ isys.ca

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                    • Yngwie
                      I am an Alien from space
                      • May 2003
                      • 11118

                      #11
                      and it sure wasn't an auction site
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                      • the Shemp
                        congrats to the winners
                        • Nov 2001
                        • 10891

                        #12
                        Originally posted by Yngwie
                        I won't be shipping it. I'm not that crazy.. How did he/she buy a money order? well, from what I see on the "confirmation email" from USPS it was bought using a credit card. The address of the card holder was in the states.. on frias DR in rochester, NY. I did a search for that street and it does not exist..Not in rochester, not in any other state. Even did a search for the person's name and there is noone by that name in rochester or anywhere in the USA.
                        its a scam, bro
                        using generated CC numbers to buy money orders, then using the money orders to buy product and have it shipped offshore..if you would have had your own merchant account, they would have skipped the money order step..then you would have got a charge back about 30-60 days later..
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                        • Yngwie
                          I am an Alien from space
                          • May 2003
                          • 11118

                          #13
                          the actual person who would recieve this package is named Olumide Cerah..
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                          • Yngwie
                            I am an Alien from space
                            • May 2003
                            • 11118

                            #14
                            Originally posted by the Shemp
                            its a scam, bro
                            using generated CC numbers to buy money orders, then using the money orders to buy product and have it shipped offshore..if you would have had your own merchant account, they would have skipped the money order step..then you would have got a charge back about 30-60 days later..
                            this is why I did not trust this from the start. Good thing I'm not an idiot that just shipped the item out without investigating first. I paid $2600 for this thing and I sure as hell am not going to let some scammer steal it from me.
                            ICQ: 16544251 - Skype: gator37 @ eastlink.ca - email: yngwie @ isys.ca

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                            • the Shemp
                              congrats to the winners
                              • Nov 2001
                              • 10891

                              #15
                              Originally posted by Yngwie
                              this is why I did not trust this from the start. Good thing I'm not an idiot that just shipped the item out without investigating first. I paid $2600 for this thing and I sure as hell am not going to let some scammer steal it from me.
                              i ran that 14262 zip and its not in the USPS database
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                              • Yngwie
                                I am an Alien from space
                                • May 2003
                                • 11118

                                #16
                                I'm still going to sell this, but not to this fucker or anyone else trying to scam me.
                                ICQ: 16544251 - Skype: gator37 @ eastlink.ca - email: yngwie @ isys.ca

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                                • Yngwie
                                  I am an Alien from space
                                  • May 2003
                                  • 11118

                                  #17
                                  Originally posted by the Shemp
                                  i ran that 14262 zip and its not in the USPS database
                                  then that's more proof that this was a scam.
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                                  • DutchTeenCash
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                                    • Feb 2003
                                    • 21684

                                    #18
                                    Lagos lol not in a million years Id say

                                    Ive never shipped anything to Middle Africa/Indonesia/Russia and some other countries that have a 99.9% fraud rate on check cards etc

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                                    • Yngwie
                                      I am an Alien from space
                                      • May 2003
                                      • 11118

                                      #19
                                      Originally posted by thinkx
                                      Lagos lol not in a million years Id say

                                      Ive never shipped anything to Middle Africa/Indonesia/Russia and some other countries that have a 99.9% fraud rate on check cards etc
                                      this is why I did not ship anything. I wanted to do some research since I got a bad feeling about this right from the start. This fucker will not be getting any free shit from me.
                                      ICQ: 16544251 - Skype: gator37 @ eastlink.ca - email: yngwie @ isys.ca

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                                      • Yngwie
                                        I am an Alien from space
                                        • May 2003
                                        • 11118

                                        #20
                                        I need to find an HONEST buyer. Damn these scamming fucks.
                                        ICQ: 16544251 - Skype: gator37 @ eastlink.ca - email: yngwie @ isys.ca

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                                        • DraX
                                          Confirmed User
                                          • Oct 2002
                                          • 7147

                                          #21
                                          Originally posted by Yngwie
                                          on bargainhunter.ca, I chose MY town and out an ad in that section. I get an email concerning my ad. Some person from god knows where overseas is interested and willing to give me $1500 for my home theatre reciever.

                                          Ok, so all sounds good, right? well, I had a bad feeling about this since the first email, but still kept in contact. This person gets a money order from USPS.com for $1500usd, I get the confirmation email that stated that I must send the package and get a tracking #. After that I would have to email them the tracking # so they can make sure that I sent the item in question.

                                          So I check the buyer's infor on the USPS confirmation mail. I see a name, part of the credit card #, address, state etc..

                                          So I decide to investigate further. I check with USA 411 for the name that was on the credit card that was used to buy the money order.. Hmmm.. no one by that name in Rochester, NY (the state that was given on the credit card info) or in the entire USA. ok so maybe this person is unlisted so I do some more research and look for the street that was mentioned (Fria DR in Rochester, NY)> Guess what? there is no street by that name in Rochester or anywhere in NY.

                                          By this point I'm feeling very weary about this whole deal. I'm expected to send something I paid $2600 for without actually having gotten the money for it? Just feel safe that I will recieve my money after that I sent it? Fuck that! So I call USPS to do more research and try to confirm that this money order is legit and not a fake email that LOOKS legit. What does the retarded cu nt at USPS tell me?

                                          "Well, I can't confirm that, but we did get 1000's of calls today concerning money orders so I can say that it's legit"

                                          So I tell the retard "How can you say it's legit when you never asked for my name or the name of the person that made this money order? How can you just tell me that it's legit without having any info?"

                                          So she says "all I can say is that it's real"

                                          I say "ok, whatever" and hang up.

                                          The buyer emails me back with the shipping documents and tells me "print 3 copies, go to your nearest fedex and ship it"

                                          He continues by saying "I want this shipped by tomorrow"

                                          Well, sorry to say, but I am not shipping a damn thing without knowing full fucking well that I will get my $1500. I don't trust people and I sure as hell am not gonna trust him or her.

                                          I want to sell this thing so I could upgrade, but I sure as hell am not going to just give it away. This isn't some crappy Citizens equipment and I worked hard for it.

                                          Not to mention that the name on the credit card is not even the same as the buyer's name. Hell, not even the same damn place. I gave this person my phone # to call me to confirm everything, but they never called so that raised another red flag.

                                          Anyone wanna buy it? $1400 and it's your. It's like bran new (I baby my electronics lol)
                                          Nice story and i feel with you

                                          I dont trust anyone either and im not about to start just because a friggin support lady says otherwise and not even asking my name haha
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                                          • Yngwie
                                            I am an Alien from space
                                            • May 2003
                                            • 11118

                                            #22
                                            I hope I can actually sell it. I want to upgrade to a higher model and I can get a good deal for it.. Just need to sell this one for at least $1400
                                            ICQ: 16544251 - Skype: gator37 @ eastlink.ca - email: yngwie @ isys.ca

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                                            • Yngwie
                                              I am an Alien from space
                                              • May 2003
                                              • 11118

                                              #23
                                              the fucker emailed me back after I sent him an email saying that I will not be shipping anything because I do not trust him etc.. and he said

                                              "Hello ayangwie,
                                              you are getting every thing all wrong....PLs try and believe me....contact the bank for verification......
                                              Thanx.."


                                              He really fucked up my name in this email haha
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                                              • ssp
                                                Confirmed User
                                                • Jan 2005
                                                • 7990

                                                #24
                                                These scammers are on ebay alot as well. Offering a good amount of money, always insisting to pay through money order. Don't do it it's a scam.

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                                                • fuzebox
                                                  making it rain
                                                  • Oct 2003
                                                  • 22363

                                                  #25
                                                  Forge an email back to him coming from USPS saying the credit card was declined and his money order will not be sent, and then right after email him yourself saying that the money order didn't go through and you need Western Union sent.

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                                                  • sticki
                                                    Confirmed User
                                                    • Jan 2006
                                                    • 215

                                                    #26
                                                    good call on not sending it...sounds like a sure scam...i like the western union idea...don't accept paypal either...they're crap

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                                                    • Yngwie
                                                      I am an Alien from space
                                                      • May 2003
                                                      • 11118

                                                      #27
                                                      I told this person straight out that I will not send anything unless I have the money in my hands. I did mention the western union idea, but this fucker keeps insisting that I should trust him/her that the money order is real. That right there tell me that it's a scammer. I don't just give out my trust to anyone. They have to earn it. This fuck is not getting anything from me.
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