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  • wedouglas
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    • Aug 2004
    • 5921
    #1

    WTF is up wth european real estate.

    I'm looking at this place in paris. it says total area 31 M2.

    wtf is that? sqaure meters? That makes no sense. it says:

    * Completely renovated
    * Total area: 31 M2
    * Separate kitchen - newly renovated
    * New Bathroom
    * 2nd Floor
    * Bedroom on courtyard
    * Price: Only US$ 175 000!
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    • wedouglas
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      • Aug 2004
      • 5921
      #2
      nm, im a fool. I just looked at the equations and it made perfect sense.

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        • Webby
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          • Oct 2002
          • 14956
          #3
          Square meters in English... and around 320 sq feet
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            • Lucky Strike
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              • Jan 2006
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              #4
              Originally posted by wedouglas
              I'm looking at this place in paris. it says total area 31 M2.

              wtf is that? sqaure meters? That makes no sense. it says:

              * Completely renovated
              * Total area: 31 M2
              * Separate kitchen - newly renovated
              * New Bathroom
              * 2nd Floor
              * Bedroom on courtyard
              * Price: Only US$ 175 000!
              Translation:

              I want you all to know that I have $175k to spend.

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                • Dirty F
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                  • Jul 2001
                  • 59204
                  #5
                  31m2 isnt too much dude

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                    • Dirty F
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                      • Jul 2001
                      • 59204
                      #6
                      If you buy a house i would go for 100m2+ for sure.

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                        • MaxCandy
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                          • Sep 2003
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                          #7
                          with paris it is all about location, i like the 5 and 6th arrondissements
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                            • polish_aristocrat
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                              • Jul 2002
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                              #8
                              Originally posted by wedouglas
                              I'm looking at this place in paris. it says total area 31 M2.

                              wtf is that? sqaure meters? That makes no sense. it says:

                              * Completely renovated
                              * Total area: 31 M2
                              * Separate kitchen - newly renovated
                              * New Bathroom
                              * 2nd Floor
                              * Bedroom on courtyard
                              * Price: Only US$ 175 000!
                              it would cost about $30k in Poland

                              ppl should invest in polish real estate
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                                • Webby
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                                  • Oct 2002
                                  • 14956
                                  #9
                                  Originally posted by polish_aristocrat
                                  it would cost about $30k in Poland

                                  ppl should invest in polish real estate

                                  It was not that long ago you could buy a chateau, courtyard, stables and original fittings in France starting around $100K ish. Tho still not near your $30K!!
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                                    • leggs
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                                      • May 2005
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                                      #10
                                      Originally posted by polish_aristocrat
                                      it would cost about $30k in Poland

                                      ppl should invest in polish real estate
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                                        • DutchTeenCash
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                                          • Feb 2003
                                          • 21684
                                          #11
                                          what district is that? 31 isnt a lot but Paris is expensive like any big city

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                                            • DutchTeenCash
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                                              • Feb 2003
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                                              #12
                                              Originally posted by MaxCandy
                                              with paris it is all about location, i like the 5 and 6th arrondissements
                                              you know it

                                              5/6 is the best, I love St Germain, great nightlife, easygoing, nice in the center, nice restaurants, the best. Even if you have a small 3 star hotel, the district makes up for it all the way. Theres a block next to the metro 5-6 streets with restaurants ending on the Seine near Notre Dame, thats the best neighbourhood imho...

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                                                • Korban
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                                                  • Jan 2002
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                                                  #13
                                                  Originally posted by Franck
                                                  31m2 isnt too much dude
                                                  For real. 31 square meters is very little space.
                                                  One tiny room plus very small kitchen/bathroom.

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                                                    • DutchTeenCash
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                                                      • Feb 2003
                                                      • 21684
                                                      #14
                                                      Originally posted by Mr. Hands
                                                      For real. 31 square meters is very little space.
                                                      One tiny room plus very small kitchen/bathroom.
                                                      it is, but if its in 5/6 or near the champs its worth a LOT

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                                                        • polish_aristocrat
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                                                          • Jul 2002
                                                          • 40377
                                                          #15
                                                          Originally posted by polish_aristocrat
                                                          it would cost about $30k in Poland

                                                          ppl should invest in polish real estate
                                                          correction 1 year later: it would cost about $60k in Poland
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                                                            • polish_aristocrat
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                                                              • Jul 2002
                                                              • 40377
                                                              #16
                                                              BTW sucks that wedouglas got banned, someone unban him!
                                                              I don't use ICQ anymore.

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                                                                • wyldworx
                                                                  So Fucking Banned
                                                                  • Dec 2006
                                                                  • 5144
                                                                  #17
                                                                  same way they do it here, i can get you a conversion table if u like, but for paris, thatr is a hell of a sized house!!

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                                                                    • Violetta
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                                                                      • Jul 2004
                                                                      • 28735
                                                                      #18
                                                                      Originally posted by Lucky Strike
                                                                      Translation:

                                                                      I want you all to know that I have $175k to spend.

                                                                      is that supposed to be much?
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                                                                        • Webby
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                                                                          • Oct 2002
                                                                          • 14956
                                                                          #19
                                                                          Originally posted by polish_aristocrat
                                                                          correction 1 year later: it would cost about $60k in Poland
                                                                          Oh, the difference a year makes...

                                                                          Same here on both homes and land... stuff that was $35/sq meter last year is now $70-$75 ish and still climbing. Nice quiet earners with little work...
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                                                                            • DarkJedi
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                                                                              • Feb 2001
                                                                              • 28301
                                                                              #20
                                                                              Originally posted by Dirty Franck
                                                                              31m2 isnt too much dude
                                                                              Correct. It's a fucking closet.

                                                                              I live in a 130m2 appartment and it seems small to me.

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                                                                                • reynold
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                                                                                  • Oct 2002
                                                                                  • 51271
                                                                                  #21
                                                                                  Originally posted by DarkJedi
                                                                                  Correct. It's a fucking closet.

                                                                                  I live in a 130m2 appartment and it seems small to me.
                                                                                  That's what I think, too.

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                                                                                    • Adult Search Results
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                                                                                      #22
                                                                                      my master bathroom is bigger than that
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                                                                                        • L-Pink
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                                                                                          • Mar 2005
                                                                                          • 39151
                                                                                          #23
                                                                                          That's pretty small, gonna give up fucking fat chicks?

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                                                                                            • chowda
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                                                                                              • Jun 2003
                                                                                              • 9527
                                                                                              #24
                                                                                              u wanna know the drivers of the EU RE market?

                                                                                              i could tell u, but then it took me hours to analyse it.
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                                                                                                • borked
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                                                                                                  • Feb 2005
                                                                                                  • 6284
                                                                                                  #25
                                                                                                  ~5k/m2 is reasonable, but if it's well-place it's a bargain.
                                                                                                  The thing is with Paris apts is to see the potential - if it's on the anything >3rd floor without elevator, it sucks. If it has a cave (~6m2) it's a huge plus. If it's on the last floor with roof-space still intact, snap it up.
                                                                                                  We bought a 40m2 apt a while back in the 18th, got the permits to break into the unusable roof space and created a mezzanine - pumped up the m2 to 60 and tripled the value in one fail swoop. We made a killing on that tiny apt.

                                                                                                  But if you're going to buy in Paris, get a local to give you serious advice, even if you have to pay for it.

                                                                                                  --edit and bedroom on courtyard, while it sounds nice, means it is dark.
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                                                                                                    • borked
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                                                                                                      • Feb 2005
                                                                                                      • 6284
                                                                                                      #26
                                                                                                      Originally posted by Adult Search Results
                                                                                                      my master bathroom is bigger than that
                                                                                                      no it isn't.

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                                                                                                        • Marcin978
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                                                                                                          • Jan 2004
                                                                                                          • 392
                                                                                                          #27
                                                                                                          Originally posted by polish_aristocrat
                                                                                                          it would cost about $30k in Poland

                                                                                                          ppl should invest in polish real estate
                                                                                                          bullshit! in Wroclaw flat like this will cost about $60-80k

                                                                                                          in other cites like Warszawa or Cracov it will be more expensive

                                                                                                          i live in 2 rooms 37m2 flat and it is worth about $80k (240.000 pln)
                                                                                                          Last edited by Marcin978; 01-17-2007, 02:10 AM.

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                                                                                                            • cardinalvices
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                                                                                                              • Dec 2006
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                                                                                                              #28
                                                                                                              Poland is ok, but in Estonia is even better.

                                                                                                              What was $50k last year now costs nearly $135k. (Thats for a 65m2 apartment)

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                                                                                                                • DarkJedi
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                                                                                                                  • Feb 2001
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                                                                                                                  #29
                                                                                                                  Originally posted by cardinalvices
                                                                                                                  Poland is ok, but in Estonia is even better.

                                                                                                                  What was $50k last year now costs nearly $135k. (Thats for a 65m2 apartment)
                                                                                                                  Same in Ukraine.

                                                                                                                  Year ago I bought a place for $850 per m2.
                                                                                                                  Now it costs $2500 per m2.

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                                                                                                                    • cardinalvices
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                                                                                                                      • Dec 2006
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                                                                                                                      #30
                                                                                                                      Originally posted by DarkJedi
                                                                                                                      Same in Ukraine.

                                                                                                                      Year ago I bought a place for $850 per m2.
                                                                                                                      Now it costs $2500 per m2.
                                                                                                                      Sweet what are your interest rates nowadays like?

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                                                                                                                        • Marcin978
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                                                                                                                          • Jan 2004
                                                                                                                          • 392
                                                                                                                          #31
                                                                                                                          Originally posted by DarkJedi
                                                                                                                          Same in Ukraine.

                                                                                                                          Year ago I bought a place for $850 per m2.
                                                                                                                          Now it costs $2500 per m2.
                                                                                                                          wow, it's fucking expensive

                                                                                                                          people there earn average $150 per month

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                                                                                                                            • DarkJedi
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                                                                                                                              • Feb 2001
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                                                                                                                              #32
                                                                                                                              Originally posted by Marcin978
                                                                                                                              people there earn average $150 per month
                                                                                                                              no, they earn more.

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                                                                                                                                • cardinalvices
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                                                                                                                                  • Dec 2006
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                                                                                                                                  #33
                                                                                                                                  Originally posted by Marcin978
                                                                                                                                  wow, it's fucking expensive

                                                                                                                                  people there earn average $150 per month
                                                                                                                                  Noway man. They earn moooooore than that

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                                                                                                                                    • Marcin978
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                                                                                                                                      • Jan 2004
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                                                                                                                                      #34
                                                                                                                                      you and your friends earn more, but i heard on polish tv that average is $100-$150

                                                                                                                                      in poland everage earnings are $250-$350 per month

                                                                                                                                      prices that you brought are the same as in poland!
                                                                                                                                      $2.5k per m2 is polish price in big city and it is very expensive for normal polish people

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                                                                                                                                        • cardinalvices
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                                                                                                                                          #35
                                                                                                                                          Originally posted by Marcin978
                                                                                                                                          you and your friends earn more, but i heard on polish tv that average is $100-$150

                                                                                                                                          in poland everage earnings are $250-$350 per month

                                                                                                                                          prices that you brought are the same as in poland!
                                                                                                                                          $2.5k per m2 is polish price in big city and it is very expensive for normal polish people
                                                                                                                                          But of corse its expensive for normal people.

                                                                                                                                          In Estonia average wage is $800/m and rising now. Specialists get from $1500+/m.

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                                                                                                                                            • adultseo
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                                                                                                                                              #36
                                                                                                                                              Originally posted by cardinalvices
                                                                                                                                              But of corse its expensive for normal people.

                                                                                                                                              In Estonia average wage is $800/m and rising now. Specialists get from $1500+/m.
                                                                                                                                              In The Netherlands the basic price is aprox. $150.000/$200.000 I believe (for starters/general sallery).

                                                                                                                                              32m2 is like 2x a kitchen, most student rooms are of this size (aprox. 250/400 euro per month)
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                                                                                                                                                • cardinalvices
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                                                                                                                                                  #37
                                                                                                                                                  yeah and taxes are about 65%?

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                                                                                                                                                    • djroof
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                                                                                                                                                      • Jan 2004
                                                                                                                                                      • 25504
                                                                                                                                                      #38
                                                                                                                                                      Too much $$$ man !

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                                                                                                                                                        • Klen
                                                                                                                                                          • Aug 2006
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                                                                                                                                                          #39
                                                                                                                                                          All real estate prizes no matter is it country in EU or not will raised.That is beacuse there is free market between almost all europe countries.

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                                                                                                                                                            • polish_aristocrat
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                                                                                                                                                              • Jul 2002
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                                                                                                                                                              #40
                                                                                                                                                              Originally posted by Marcin978
                                                                                                                                                              bullshit! in Wroclaw flat like this will cost about $60-80k

                                                                                                                                                              in other cites like Warszawa or Cracov it will be more expensive

                                                                                                                                                              i live in 2 rooms 37m2 flat and it is worth about $80k (240.000 pln)
                                                                                                                                                              yeah but you quoted my post from January 2006

                                                                                                                                                              Originally posted by cardinalvices
                                                                                                                                                              Sweet what are your interest rates nowadays like?
                                                                                                                                                              DarkJedi probably paid with cash
                                                                                                                                                              I don't use ICQ anymore.

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                                                                                                                                                                • Sarah_Jayne
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                                                                                                                                                                  • Dec 2002
                                                                                                                                                                  • 40077
                                                                                                                                                                  #41
                                                                                                                                                                  sounds cheap...you need to sell body parts to afford a place in London

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                                                                                                                                                                    • grumpy
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                                                                                                                                                                      • Jan 2002
                                                                                                                                                                      • 9870
                                                                                                                                                                      #42
                                                                                                                                                                      Originally posted by polish_aristocrat
                                                                                                                                                                      it would cost about $30k in Poland

                                                                                                                                                                      ppl should invest in polish real estate
                                                                                                                                                                      sure, it is known for its gamour and atmosphere. Great place to live.
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                                                                                                                                                                        • grumpy
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                                                                                                                                                                          • Jan 2002
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                                                                                                                                                                          #43
                                                                                                                                                                          Originally posted by sarah_webinc
                                                                                                                                                                          sounds cheap...you need to sell body parts to afford a place in London

                                                                                                                                                                          you have no idea what you are talking about. Never learned to convert euro's to dollars and meters to inches or feet? Its the size of a good livingroom ( the whole apartment )
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                                                                                                                                                                            • Sarah_Jayne
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                                                                                                                                                                              • Dec 2002
                                                                                                                                                                              • 40077
                                                                                                                                                                              #44
                                                                                                                                                                              Originally posted by grumpy
                                                                                                                                                                              you have no idea what you are talking about. Never learned to convert euro's to dollars and meters to inches or feet? Its the size of a good livingroom ( the whole apartment )
                                                                                                                                                                              yes, and people have flats that size in London that cost a ton more than that

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                                                                                                                                                                                • E$_manager
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                                                                                                                                                                                  • Apr 2006
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                                                                                                                                                                                  #45
                                                                                                                                                                                  Originally posted by polish_aristocrat
                                                                                                                                                                                  it would cost about $30k in Poland

                                                                                                                                                                                  ppl should invest in polish real estate
                                                                                                                                                                                  Didn't know real estate is so cheap in Poland! Are you sure, that the prices did not grow up the last year? Poland is in EU? Strainge. In Estonia it would cost now 60000$. I am not talking about Russia, where prices are unbelievable.
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                                                                                                                                                                                    • grumpy
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                                                                                                                                                                                      • Jan 2002
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                                                                                                                                                                                      #46
                                                                                                                                                                                      Originally posted by sarah_webinc
                                                                                                                                                                                      yes, and people have flats that size in London that cost a ton more than that

                                                                                                                                                                                      read your previous post again and then come bak.
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                                                                                                                                                                                          • Oct 2002
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                                                                                                                                                                                          #47
                                                                                                                                                                                          Originally posted by sarah_webinc
                                                                                                                                                                                          sounds cheap...you need to sell body parts to afford a place in London
                                                                                                                                                                                          Sure is cheap in comparison to London

                                                                                                                                                                                          Late last year a friend just sold a *very* small flat (maybe a few sq feet more than the example above) in Sloane square for just over 700 GBP (about $1.4mill) - dunno why she bothered living in a closet in a city, but handy for work as long as you only sleep there.
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                                                                                                                                                                                            • Sarah_Jayne
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                                                                                                                                                                                              • Dec 2002
                                                                                                                                                                                              • 40077
                                                                                                                                                                                              #48
                                                                                                                                                                                              garages have gone for near a million in areas like Chelsea

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                                                                                                                                                                                                • polish_aristocrat
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                                                                                                                                                                                                  #49
                                                                                                                                                                                                  Originally posted by DarkJedi
                                                                                                                                                                                                  .

                                                                                                                                                                                                  I live in a 130m2 appartment and it seems small to me.
                                                                                                                                                                                                  you live alone in 130m2?
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                                                                                                                                                                                                    • Webby
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                                                                                                                                                                                                      • Oct 2002
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                                                                                                                                                                                                      #50
                                                                                                                                                                                                      Originally posted by sarah_webinc
                                                                                                                                                                                                      garages have gone for near a million in areas like Chelsea
                                                                                                                                                                                                      Sheesh... sounds worse than when I was there *lol*

                                                                                                                                                                                                      A mill (GBP) is around $2 mill US - you can buy an estate for that in selected exotic locations (tho the same estate will prob cost $4 mill next year).
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