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  • milambur
    Mainstream since 2010
    • Jan 2003
    • 1327

    #1

    Sex.com only worth $14M?

    I really thought that domain would be worth alot more, don't get why he sold it for $14M, if that is all he got. What do you guys think?
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  • Gunni
    Confirmed User
    • Apr 2003
    • 2385

    #2
    I would've thought it was worth more

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    • djroof
      JuicyDevils.gr Owner
      • Jan 2004
      • 25504

      #3
      nice price...

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      • polish_aristocrat
        Too lazy to set a custom title
        • Jul 2002
        • 40377

        #4
        Originally posted by milambur
        I really thought that domain would be worth alot more, don't get why he sold it for $14M, if that is all he got. What do you guys think?
        are you another guy claiming a million is nothing and that the new owners will make it back in 6 months, lol ?
        I don't use ICQ anymore.

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        • EroticySteve
          Confirmed User
          • Mar 2005
          • 4365

          #5
          I was amazed that it sold for that much. I say congratulations to Kremen.

          I personally don't buy into a domain having value in and of itself. Sure, I understand the value of a good domain for brand recognition and type in/natural traffic but come on.

          Again, congrats to Kremen. Take the money and enjoy it, it's been a long, hard uphill battle for him for quite a few years.
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          • woj
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            • Jul 2002
            • 47880

            #6
            first 2 replies are great
            anyway, congrats to all the winners
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            • Alphonso
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              • Dec 2005
              • 544

              #7
              14 million is fair price
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              • fraggle
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                • Jan 2003
                • 932

                #8
                guess its worth what you think you can make form it

                id be happy having gotten 14 for a domain name for sure
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                • milambur
                  Mainstream since 2010
                  • Jan 2003
                  • 1327

                  #9
                  Basic Example:
                  $2M Down
                  $12M at 5%

                  Intrest = $600K

                  if you are able to pull in $2K a day that equals $730K a year

                  So roughly $130K return a year

                  130K/2M = 0.065

                  ROI 6.5%

                  And that is only on $2K a day, if I was unable to pull in $2K a day with that domain I would shoot myself.
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                  • slapass
                    Too lazy to set a custom title
                    • Nov 2002
                    • 14625

                    #10
                    70k typeins a day plus 30k se traffic a day. These are just estiamtes but gives us a nice 100k a day of clean traffic. 10% CTR to something at an average of .10/click is $1000 per day. I do not think he bought the traffic business as that is being run seperate.

                    Those who have bought traffic there know I am being generous. I just hope the traffic numbers I have heard are way off the mark and he is getting tons more. The past models seem unlikely to have caused lots of bookmarking but he has huge name recognition and word of mouth going.

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                    • woj
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                      • Jul 2002
                      • 47880

                      #11
                      Originally posted by milambur
                      Basic Example:
                      $2M Down
                      $12M at 5%

                      Intrest = $600K

                      if you are able to pull in $2K a day that equals $730K a year

                      So roughly $130K return a year

                      130K/2M = 0.065

                      ROI 6.5%

                      And that is only on $2K a day, if I was unable to pull in $2K a day with that domain I would shoot myself.
                      One minor detail is, who will lend money at 5% to buy a domain?
                      Another minor detail is, who will lend 12 Million for a virtual asset, when the buyer is putting up less than 20% of his own money.
                      Last edited by woj; 01-20-2006, 06:35 AM.
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                      • vod
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                        • Jan 2006
                        • 3510

                        #12
                        I say congratulations to Kremen, but I would have held out for 22 million ;-) with better terms..

                        take the money and run...

                        sex.com before Gary was doing 1 million a day from ads. then Gary re-aquired his sex.com and turned it into a pay per click search engine. something that never should have been done.

                        advertising sells for more then .05 cost per click. it takes alot of traffic to make your money back on a cpc...

                        good luck to the new ownership ;-)


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                        • milambur
                          Mainstream since 2010
                          • Jan 2003
                          • 1327

                          #13
                          Originally posted by woj
                          One minor detail is, who will lend money at 5% to buy a domain?
                          Another minor detail is, who will lend 12 Million for a virtual asset, when the buyer is putting up less than 20% of his own money.
                          ALOT of banks would lend me that money in a heartbeat if I put down $2M.
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                          • polish_aristocrat
                            Too lazy to set a custom title
                            • Jul 2002
                            • 40377

                            #14
                            Originally posted by slapass
                            70k typeins a day plus 30k se traffic a day. These are just estiamtes but gives us a nice 100k a day of clean traffic. 10% CTR to something at an average of .10/click is $1000 per day. I do not think he bought the traffic business as that is being run seperate.

                            Those who have bought traffic there know I am being generous. I just hope the traffic numbers I have heard are way off the mark and he is getting tons more. The past models seem unlikely to have caused lots of bookmarking but he has huge name recognition and word of mouth going.
                            IMO they are getting more traffic and could easily get a better CTR and should make indeed a few $k per day with not much problems.

                            But not $40k per day as Nysus claimed in another thread lol

                            anyway, we can just speculate, I don't even know who that company is that acquired this domain

                            14 millions sounds nice, its just a domain, so it can't be bought for 12 years income like real estate...

                            and i also wasnt thinking they got a loan for it
                            I don't use ICQ anymore.

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                            • Gottis
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                              • May 2004
                              • 1746

                              #15
                              Originally posted by polish_aristocrat
                              are you another guy claiming a million is nothing and that the new owners will make it back in 6 months, lol ?
                              are you kidding, look at the new site - they will make it back in ONE MONTH
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                              • Daruma
                                Confirmed User
                                • Nov 2002
                                • 3494

                                #16
                                14 mil now is good... 2 years ago maybe 20 or 25 mil

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                                • milambur
                                  Mainstream since 2010
                                  • Jan 2003
                                  • 1327

                                  #17
                                  Originally posted by polish_aristocrat
                                  IMO they are getting more traffic and could easily get a better CTR and should make indeed a few $k per day with not much problems.

                                  But not $40k per day as Nysus claimed in another thread lol

                                  anyway, we can just speculate, I don't even know who that company is that acquired this domain

                                  14 millions sounds nice, its just a domain, so it can't be bought for 12 years income like real estate...

                                  and i also wasnt thinking they got a loan for it
                                  $40K a day will probably need some serious work. If you have a good model then $10K a day after a year might be quite possible without too much work. $10K a day give an ROI of 150% in my previous calculation.....

                                  Now as for domains not being bought as real estate, why not?

                                  Not getting a loan would make them really bad investors.
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                                  • DirtyProfits
                                    Confirmed User
                                    • May 2005
                                    • 1885

                                    #18
                                    Sex.com ppc traffic has always sucked for me in the past so I think $14 million is just a good price.
                                    The domain has such a HUGE potential to be successful. If I'd own it I would try some kind of video mega site like VideosZ and with enough advertising it will do very well.

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                                    • Bama
                                      Confirmed User
                                      • Nov 2001
                                      • 2727

                                      #19
                                      Sex.com was most profitable when it was just a banner farm and receiving most of it's traffic from the 270K type-ins/day

                                      10K-50K per banner (buttons were the cheapest to buy) per month and you guys remember how many banners were on the page!

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                                      • axelcat
                                        Adult Locals
                                        • Jun 2002
                                        • 25450

                                        #20
                                        I think it's worth more

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                                        • chipmunk
                                          Confirmed User
                                          • Sep 2002
                                          • 1039

                                          #21
                                          Bottom line is....
                                          the new owner and Gary got what they each wanted! It was a nice deal all around!
                                          Best of luck to both parties involved...

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                                          • kmanrox
                                            aka K-Man
                                            • Oct 2001
                                            • 29295

                                            #22
                                            id let him fuck my ass for 14 mil





                                            hahaha just kidding u know i'd do it for free!
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                                            • DaddyHalbucks
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                                              • Feb 2004
                                              • 18975

                                              #23
                                              I think it was a good buy at $14 million.
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                                              • shuki
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                                                • Aug 2004
                                                • 3070

                                                #24
                                                Originally posted by milambur
                                                ALOT of banks would lend me that money in a heartbeat if I put down $2M.
                                                If you can point me in the direction of these banks I would love to talk to them. I can easily put down 20% if they can finance the rest I am all ears.

                                                The domains I want don't even add up to $5million so.......
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                                                • RayBonga
                                                  too cool for highschool
                                                  • Nov 2005
                                                  • 12164

                                                  #25
                                                  Originally posted by woj
                                                  One minor detail is, who will lend money at 5% to buy a domain?
                                                  Another minor detail is, who will lend 12 Million for a virtual asset, when the buyer is putting up less than 20% of his own money.
                                                  Exactly my though and anyway 6,5% a year is a shitty return for such a risky investment.

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                                                  • shuki
                                                    Confirmed User
                                                    • Aug 2004
                                                    • 3070

                                                    #26
                                                    Any money lenders in here?

                                                    I can pay up to 30% on your money and you have my domains as collateral.
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                                                    • polish_aristocrat
                                                      Too lazy to set a custom title
                                                      • Jul 2002
                                                      • 40377

                                                      #27
                                                      Originally posted by milambur
                                                      Now as for domains not being bought as real estate, why not?
                                                      IMO domains are definitely more risky than real estate
                                                      I don't use ICQ anymore.

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                                                      • gangbangjoe
                                                        Ronin
                                                        • May 2004
                                                        • 17693

                                                        #28
                                                        lol

                                                        tell me why i would need more money in live then 14million dollars ?



                                                        i would put 12 on the bank, invest 1 and spend one for my fun...

                                                        the kids of my kids kids could still live from the money

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                                                        • TheDoc
                                                          Too lazy to set a custom title
                                                          • Jul 2001
                                                          • 13827

                                                          #29
                                                          It's sad it only went for $14 million. Sad knowing that in the hands of the correct person it's going to be worth tons more, but while in the hands of an ...... well it didn't do so good.
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                                                          • sfera
                                                            Confirmed User
                                                            • Aug 2005
                                                            • 8597

                                                            #30
                                                            id of sold it for that and retired

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                                                            • DamageX
                                                              Marketing & Strategy
                                                              • Jun 2001
                                                              • 14293

                                                              #31
                                                              Originally posted by vod
                                                              I say congratulations to Kremen, but I would have held out for 22 million ;-) with better terms..

                                                              take the money and run...

                                                              sex.com before Gary was doing 1 million a day from ads. then Gary re-aquired his sex.com and turned it into a pay per click search engine. something that never should have been done.

                                                              advertising sells for more then .05 cost per click. it takes alot of traffic to make your money back on a cpc...

                                                              good luck to the new ownership ;-)
                                                              Kremen definitely ran that domain into the ground. The smartest move he ever did was selling it for $14M.
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                                                              • Validus
                                                                Confirmed User
                                                                • Jul 2001
                                                                • 4012

                                                                #32
                                                                Great domain... I would have thought it would be worth more as well...

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                                                                • maxjohan
                                                                  Confirmed User
                                                                  • Dec 2002
                                                                  • 7219

                                                                  #33
                                                                  Hmmm.. the value of Sex.com will def. go up in value... but I still think Gary did a great sell...

                                                                  If I owned sex.com I had made it a ringtones site... something like "Sexy ringtones and logos at Sex.com".

                                                                  It had been a viral marketing machine by it self without work.

                                                                  Gary wasn't the smartest marketing guy
                                                                  Last edited by maxjohan; 01-21-2006, 07:43 AM.
                                                                  I went from 100 to 313,000 satoshis in 2 days! Lots of daily freerolls...

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                                                                  • BSleazy
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                                                                    • Aug 2002
                                                                    • 6721

                                                                    #34
                                                                    Whoever runs thebestporn.com is gonna make a fortune.
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                                                                    • polish_aristocrat
                                                                      Too lazy to set a custom title
                                                                      • Jul 2002
                                                                      • 40377

                                                                      #35
                                                                      Originally posted by maxjohan

                                                                      If I owned sex.com I had made it a ringtones site...
                                                                      I don't use ICQ anymore.

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                                                                      • slapass
                                                                        Too lazy to set a custom title
                                                                        • Nov 2002
                                                                        • 14625

                                                                        #36
                                                                        well now we know what they are making per day and it looks a lot better purchase wise.

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                                                                        • milambur
                                                                          Mainstream since 2010
                                                                          • Jan 2003
                                                                          • 1327

                                                                          #37
                                                                          Originally posted by shuki
                                                                          If you can point me in the direction of these banks I would love to talk to them. I can easily put down 20% if they can finance the rest I am all ears.

                                                                          The domains I want don't even add up to $5million so.......
                                                                          If you have a solid biz system and a proven track record any bank will lend you that money.

                                                                          Originally posted by RayBonga
                                                                          Exactly my though and anyway 6,5% a year is a shitty return for such a risky investment.
                                                                          6.5% is shitty, but it is the lowest I figured I would make without any real work.

                                                                          Originally posted by polish_aristocrat
                                                                          IMO domains are definitely more risky than real estate
                                                                          Yes, that is why you get a higher return, but it is the same principles.

                                                                          Originally posted by gangbangjoe
                                                                          lol
                                                                          tell me why i would need more money in live then 14million dollars ?
                                                                          i would put 12 on the bank, invest 1 and spend one for my fun...
                                                                          the kids of my kids kids could still live from the money
                                                                          Depends on ones goals in life I guess, but for me $14M is not enough.

                                                                          Originally posted by maxjohan
                                                                          If I owned sex.com I had made it a ringtones site... something like "Sexy ringtones and logos at Sex.com".
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                                                                          • Violetta
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                                                                            • Jul 2004
                                                                            • 28735

                                                                            #38
                                                                            If I'd get 14 mill for it, I'd sell! Leave the biz and move to bahamas!
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                                                                            • detoxed
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                                                                              • Jan 2003
                                                                              • 17798

                                                                              #39
                                                                              Originally posted by maxjohan
                                                                              Hmmm.. the value of Sex.com will def. go up in value... but I still think Gary did a great sell...

                                                                              If I owned sex.com I had made it a ringtones site... something like "Sexy ringtones and logos at Sex.com".

                                                                              It had been a viral marketing machine by it self without work.

                                                                              Gary wasn't the smartest marketing guy

                                                                              yep.. and if i owned mortgage.com i'd turn it into a ringtone site!


                                                                              "funniest mortgage ringtones ever at mortgage.com"


                                                                              perfect marketing

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                                                                              • microdotman
                                                                                Registered User
                                                                                • Jan 2006
                                                                                • 18

                                                                                #40
                                                                                worth a lot more

                                                                                You guys are too focused on the short term traffic and cash flow. The play here is that this is and will remain the worlds number one adult Internet brand. And if you see the site text the new business model is exposed which Im sure will be rather profitable once complete.

                                                                                So this site will end up worth an incredible mint, irrespective of the fact that the domain itself was a bargain, if you can even believe the reports at all which I doubt.


                                                                                Then one day after massive dollars are turned the site will be resold and the owners take the capital gain.

                                                                                Walla

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                                                                                • tony299
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                                                                                  • Aug 2002
                                                                                  • 57021

                                                                                  #41
                                                                                  i think he was smart the tide is changing.

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