I really thought that domain would be worth alot more, don't get why he sold it for $14M, if that is all he got. What do you guys think?
Sex.com only worth $14M?
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are you another guy claiming a million is nothing and that the new owners will make it back in 6 months, lol ?Originally posted by milamburI really thought that domain would be worth alot more, don't get why he sold it for $14M, if that is all he got. What do you guys think?I don't use ICQ anymore.Comment
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I was amazed that it sold for that much. I say congratulations to Kremen.
I personally don't buy into a domain having value in and of itself. Sure, I understand the value of a good domain for brand recognition and type in/natural traffic but come on.
Again, congrats to Kremen. Take the money and enjoy it, it's been a long, hard uphill battle for him for quite a few years.Comment
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first 2 replies are great
anyway, congrats to all the winners
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guess its worth what you think you can make form it
id be happy having gotten 14 for a domain name for sureComment
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Basic Example:
$2M Down
$12M at 5%
Intrest = $600K
if you are able to pull in $2K a day that equals $730K a year
So roughly $130K return a year
130K/2M = 0.065
ROI 6.5%
And that is only on $2K a day, if I was unable to pull in $2K a day with that domain I would shoot myself.Alea iacta estComment
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70k typeins a day plus 30k se traffic a day. These are just estiamtes but gives us a nice 100k a day of clean traffic. 10% CTR to something at an average of .10/click is $1000 per day. I do not think he bought the traffic business as that is being run seperate.
Those who have bought traffic there know I am being generous. I just hope the traffic numbers I have heard are way off the mark and he is getting tons more. The past models seem unlikely to have caused lots of bookmarking but he has huge name recognition and word of mouth going.Comment
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One minor detail is, who will lend money at 5% to buy a domain?Originally posted by milamburBasic Example:
$2M Down
$12M at 5%
Intrest = $600K
if you are able to pull in $2K a day that equals $730K a year
So roughly $130K return a year
130K/2M = 0.065
ROI 6.5%
And that is only on $2K a day, if I was unable to pull in $2K a day with that domain I would shoot myself.
Another minor detail is, who will lend 12 Million for a virtual asset, when the buyer is putting up less than 20% of his own money.Last edited by woj; 01-20-2006, 06:35 AM.Custom Software Development, email: woj#at#wojfun#.#com to discuss details or skype: wojl2000 or gchat: wojfun or telegram: wojl2000
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I say congratulations to Kremen, but I would have held out for 22 million ;-) with better terms..
take the money and run...
sex.com before Gary was doing 1 million a day from ads. then Gary re-aquired his sex.com and turned it into a pay per click search engine. something that never should have been done.
advertising sells for more then .05 cost per click. it takes alot of traffic to make your money back on a cpc...
good luck to the new ownership ;-)Comment
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ALOT of banks would lend me that money in a heartbeat if I put down $2M.Originally posted by wojOne minor detail is, who will lend money at 5% to buy a domain?
Another minor detail is, who will lend 12 Million for a virtual asset, when the buyer is putting up less than 20% of his own money.Alea iacta estComment
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IMO they are getting more traffic and could easily get a better CTR and should make indeed a few $k per day with not much problems.Originally posted by slapass70k typeins a day plus 30k se traffic a day. These are just estiamtes but gives us a nice 100k a day of clean traffic. 10% CTR to something at an average of .10/click is $1000 per day. I do not think he bought the traffic business as that is being run seperate.
Those who have bought traffic there know I am being generous. I just hope the traffic numbers I have heard are way off the mark and he is getting tons more. The past models seem unlikely to have caused lots of bookmarking but he has huge name recognition and word of mouth going.
But not $40k per day as Nysus claimed in another thread lol
anyway, we can just speculate, I don't even know who that company is that acquired this domain
14 millions sounds nice, its just a domain, so it can't be bought for 12 years income like real estate...
and i also wasnt thinking they got a loan for itI don't use ICQ anymore.Comment
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are you kidding, look at the new site - they will make it back in ONE MONTHOriginally posted by polish_aristocratare you another guy claiming a million is nothing and that the new owners will make it back in 6 months, lol ?
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$40K a day will probably need some serious work. If you have a good model then $10K a day after a year might be quite possible without too much work. $10K a day give an ROI of 150% in my previous calculation.....Originally posted by polish_aristocratIMO they are getting more traffic and could easily get a better CTR and should make indeed a few $k per day with not much problems.
But not $40k per day as Nysus claimed in another thread lol
anyway, we can just speculate, I don't even know who that company is that acquired this domain
14 millions sounds nice, its just a domain, so it can't be bought for 12 years income like real estate...
and i also wasnt thinking they got a loan for it
Now as for domains not being bought as real estate, why not?
Not getting a loan would make them really bad investors.Alea iacta estComment
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Sex.com ppc traffic has always sucked for me in the past so I think $14 million is just a good price.
The domain has such a HUGE potential to be successful. If I'd own it I would try some kind of video mega site like VideosZ and with enough advertising it will do very well.Comment
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Bottom line is....
the new owner and Gary got what they each wanted! It was a nice deal all around!
Best of luck to both parties involved...
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If you can point me in the direction of these banks I would love to talk to them. I can easily put down 20% if they can finance the rest I am all ears.Originally posted by milamburALOT of banks would lend me that money in a heartbeat if I put down $2M.
The domains I want don't even add up to $5million so.......Looking to buy established paysites contact me [email protected]Comment
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Exactly my though and anyway 6,5% a year is a shitty return for such a risky investment.Originally posted by wojOne minor detail is, who will lend money at 5% to buy a domain?
Another minor detail is, who will lend 12 Million for a virtual asset, when the buyer is putting up less than 20% of his own money.Comment
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Any money lenders in here?
I can pay up to 30% on your money and you have my domains as collateral.Looking to buy established paysites contact me [email protected]Comment
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IMO domains are definitely more risky than real estateOriginally posted by milamburNow as for domains not being bought as real estate, why not?I don't use ICQ anymore.Comment
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lol
tell me why i would need more money in live then 14million dollars ?
i would put 12 on the bank, invest 1 and spend one for my fun...
the kids of my kids kids could still live from the money
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It's sad it only went for $14 million. Sad knowing that in the hands of the correct person it's going to be worth tons more, but while in the hands of an ...... well it didn't do so good.
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Kremen definitely ran that domain into the ground. The smartest move he ever did was selling it for $14M.Originally posted by vodI say congratulations to Kremen, but I would have held out for 22 million ;-) with better terms..
take the money and run...
sex.com before Gary was doing 1 million a day from ads. then Gary re-aquired his sex.com and turned it into a pay per click search engine. something that never should have been done.
advertising sells for more then .05 cost per click. it takes alot of traffic to make your money back on a cpc...
good luck to the new ownership ;-)Whitehat is for chumps
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Hmmm.. the value of Sex.com will def. go up in value... but I still think Gary did a great sell...
If I owned sex.com I had made it a ringtones site... something like "Sexy ringtones and logos at Sex.com".
It had been a viral marketing machine by it self without work.
Gary wasn't the smartest marketing guy
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Originally posted by maxjohan
If I owned sex.com I had made it a ringtones site...
I don't use ICQ anymore.Comment
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If you have a solid biz system and a proven track record any bank will lend you that money.Originally posted by shukiIf you can point me in the direction of these banks I would love to talk to them. I can easily put down 20% if they can finance the rest I am all ears.
The domains I want don't even add up to $5million so.......
6.5% is shitty, but it is the lowest I figured I would make without any real work.Originally posted by RayBongaExactly my though and anyway 6,5% a year is a shitty return for such a risky investment.
Yes, that is why you get a higher return, but it is the same principles.Originally posted by polish_aristocratIMO domains are definitely more risky than real estate
Depends on ones goals in life I guess, but for me $14M is not enough.Originally posted by gangbangjoelol
tell me why i would need more money in live then 14million dollars ?
i would put 12 on the bank, invest 1 and spend one for my fun...
the kids of my kids kids could still live from the money
Jag hoppas att du skämtar.Originally posted by maxjohanIf I owned sex.com I had made it a ringtones site... something like "Sexy ringtones and logos at Sex.com".Alea iacta estComment
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Originally posted by maxjohanHmmm.. the value of Sex.com will def. go up in value... but I still think Gary did a great sell...
If I owned sex.com I had made it a ringtones site... something like "Sexy ringtones and logos at Sex.com".
It had been a viral marketing machine by it self without work.
Gary wasn't the smartest marketing guy
yep.. and if i owned mortgage.com i'd turn it into a ringtone site!
"funniest mortgage ringtones ever at mortgage.com"
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worth a lot more
You guys are too focused on the short term traffic and cash flow. The play here is that this is and will remain the worlds number one adult Internet brand. And if you see the site text the new business model is exposed which Im sure will be rather profitable once complete.
So this site will end up worth an incredible mint, irrespective of the fact that the domain itself was a bargain, if you can even believe the reports at all which I doubt.
Then one day after massive dollars are turned the site will be resold and the owners take the capital gain.
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