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  • infecto
    Confirmed User
    • May 2003
    • 1697

    #1

    Copying Text From Other Websites?

    If someone is copying text from your website without permission is it possible to get them taken down by their host?
  • Harmon
    ( ͡ʘ╭͜ʖ╮͡ʘ)
    • Mar 2004
    • 20012

    #2
    probably not... unless it's copyrighted
    [email protected]

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    • infecto
      Confirmed User
      • May 2003
      • 1697

      #3
      Originally posted by Harmon
      probably not... unless it's copyrighted

      I have a copyright info on the bottom of the page, does that count?

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      • bdld
        $100,000
        • Dec 2001
        • 11452

        #4
        depends on the host, but most likely not unless you send them a C&D letter.

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        • Harmon
          ( ͡ʘ╭͜ʖ╮͡ʘ)
          • Mar 2004
          • 20012

          #5
          It's a grey area - and I assume you are talking about porn - and who is to say who made what first? I'd say MOOT
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          • Tom_PM
            Porn Meister
            • Feb 2005
            • 16443

            #6
            It's copyrighted material and covered by the DMA I'd say. Absolutely. Black and white to me.
            43-922-863 Shut up and play your guitar.

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            • SuckOnThis
              So Fucking Banned
              • Oct 2003
              • 6844

              #7
              Send their host this letter below. Had my Attorney write this up a few years ago and I have had to send it over a dozen times. Seems to get their attention.

              Hostname:

              It recently has come to our attention that a customer
              of yours is violating Federal Copyright Laws and The Lanham Act by using (insert your text here) on their web site at
              (insert your text here)

              This web site has been traced to the IP
              (insert your text here) which shows your company to be
              the registered owner of that IP.

              As you know, (insert your text here) owns and maintains the (insert your text here) Web site. (insert your text here) owns exclusive trademarks and copyrights to the (insert your text here) in the United States and internationally.

              (insert your text here) has made a substantial investment in
              developing and providing its services and has
              acquired a tremendous amount of goodwill and brand
              equity.

              As we hope you can appreciate, (insert your text here) is
              concerned that your customers unauthorized use of
              the (insert your text here) may cause confusion as to
              whether your customers activities are authorized,
              endorsed or sponsored by (insert your text here) when, in
              fact, they are not.

              Federal and state laws, including the Lanham Act
              provides a trademark holder to recover (1)
              defendant's profits, (2) any damages sustained by
              the plaintiff, and (3) the costs of the action.
              The court shall assess such profits and damages or
              cause the same to be assessed under its direction.
              Infringers who have been notified of such infringing
              activity, but do not cease their infringements, may
              also be considered "willful" and could be
              subject to additional money damages.

              Having received this e-mail, you are on such notice.

              More information on trademark law may be found at
              http://www.fplc.edu/tfield/aVoid.htm.

              Nonetheless, under the circumstances, we must
              insist that you:
              (1) force your customer to stop using (insert your text here) in their website;
              (2) do not use such name on an active web site;

              If you choose to ignore your violation legal action will
              be filed.

              Please confirm (by responding to this email) that you
              will comply as requested above. Thank you for your
              anticipated cooperation.

              (insert your text here) Legal Department

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              • Harmon
                ( ͡ʘ╭͜ʖ╮͡ʘ)
                • Mar 2004
                • 20012

                #8
                Ok - I see differing opinions. What are we talking about here? Care to show us an example? Or is this secret squirrel shit
                [email protected]

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                • Tom_PM
                  Porn Meister
                  • Feb 2005
                  • 16443

                  #9
                  If it's simply SIMILAR, then thats another story. If it's exact code, then it's yours.
                  43-922-863 Shut up and play your guitar.

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                  • infecto
                    Confirmed User
                    • May 2003
                    • 1697

                    #10
                    Copying exact text from my site word for word. Not actual code for the website but text displayed.

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                    • Ice
                      Confirmed User
                      • Nov 2002
                      • 26053

                      #11
                      Originally posted by Harmon
                      Ok - I see differing opinions. What are we talking about here? Care to show us an example? Or is this secret squirrel shit
                      icq 1904905

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                      • Harmon
                        ( ͡ʘ╭͜ʖ╮͡ʘ)
                        • Mar 2004
                        • 20012

                        #12
                        Originally posted by infecto
                        Copying exact text from my site word for word. Not actual code for the website but text displayed.
                        I am guessing you do not want to cause drama by posting the examples? I understand if that is the case...

                        But what is the text copied?

                        16 blojob pics?
                        ENTER HERE!
                        SEE FREE TRAILERS BY CLICKING HERE

                        ???
                        [email protected]

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                        • SuckOnThis
                          So Fucking Banned
                          • Oct 2003
                          • 6844

                          #13
                          Originally posted by Harmon
                          probably not... unless it's copyrighted
                          Anything someone writes is automatically copyrighted. Proving who came up with it first is another issue.

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                          • Harmon
                            ( ͡ʘ╭͜ʖ╮͡ʘ)
                            • Mar 2004
                            • 20012

                            #14
                            Originally posted by Ice
                            [email protected]

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                            • infecto
                              Confirmed User
                              • May 2003
                              • 1697

                              #15
                              Originally posted by Harmon
                              I am guessing you do not want to cause drama by posting the examples? I understand if that is the case...

                              But what is the text copied?

                              16 blojob pics?
                              ENTER HERE!
                              SEE FREE TRAILERS BY CLICKING HERE

                              ???
                              Oh heck no. More like 4-5 sentences with extra links etc. Multiple posts like that.

                              Suckonthis thanks for that example letter by the way.

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                              • SmokeyTheBear
                                ►SouthOfHeaven
                                • Jun 2004
                                • 28609

                                #16
                                i think he is talking about "exact code"

                                I have noticed several "seo" sites that have created sites that pull the contents of almost every page out there.. they even copy my copyright notice LOL.

                                Basically how it works is , if you rank high for a keyword like BLACK PORN this guy creates a bot that crawls the first 20 sites listed on google and copies portions of the "text" and combines them to form a page seo'd for "black porn" ..

                                it doesnt seem to work very well..

                                Ill try to show an example for everyone.. to test if your being "scraped" just look for a unique text on your page like COPYRIGHT MYSITE.COM ont he bottom , but it in quotes and search it on google. see if any other sites have your text
                                hatisblack at yahoo.com

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                                • infecto
                                  Confirmed User
                                  • May 2003
                                  • 1697

                                  #17
                                  Originally posted by SmokeyTheBear
                                  i think he is talking about "exact code"

                                  I have noticed several "seo" sites that have created sites that pull the contents of almost every page out there.. they even copy my copyright notice LOL.

                                  Basically how it works is , if you rank high for a keyword like BLACK PORN this guy creates a bot that crawls the first 20 sites listed on google and copies portions of the "text" and combines them to form a page seo'd for "black porn" ..

                                  it doesnt seem to work very well..

                                  Ill try to show an example for everyone.. to test if your being "scraped" just look for a unique text on your page like COPYRIGHT MYSITE.COM ont he bottom , but it in quotes and search it on google. see if any other sites have your text
                                  Yeah he is doing something along those lines. Only downside for him is he left his site open for hotlinking.

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                                  • SmokeyTheBear
                                    ►SouthOfHeaven
                                    • Jun 2004
                                    • 28609

                                    #18
                                    This is just plain search engine scraping..

                                    http://porn-sex-videos.sweetsluts.info/ ( see bottom )

                                    but what he is talking about is this PLUS it goes one step further and crawls each of those sites fr text contents.
                                    hatisblack at yahoo.com

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                                    • infecto
                                      Confirmed User
                                      • May 2003
                                      • 1697

                                      #19
                                      His site won't do shit but I still don't like it. Always think google is going to come and get me ;)

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                                      • SmokeyTheBear
                                        ►SouthOfHeaven
                                        • Jun 2004
                                        • 28609

                                        #20
                                        ok this is a better example..

                                        http://66.102.7.104/search?q=cache:3...rved.%22&hl=en

                                        That site is a full text scrape of timsmovies.com
                                        hatisblack at yahoo.com

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                                        • SmokeyTheBear
                                          ►SouthOfHeaven
                                          • Jun 2004
                                          • 28609

                                          #21
                                          if you notice on the bottom , they even stole his copyright notice
                                          hatisblack at yahoo.com

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                                          • infecto
                                            Confirmed User
                                            • May 2003
                                            • 1697

                                            #22
                                            smokey, this wouldn't hurt the person they are copying would it?

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                                            • SmokeyTheBear
                                              ►SouthOfHeaven
                                              • Jun 2004
                                              • 28609

                                              #23
                                              Originally posted by infecto
                                              smokey, this wouldn't hurt the person they are copying would it?
                                              i was asking the same thing awhile ago.. i hope not . i noticed a guy doing it on domain that suddenly "dropped rank" he had like 200 domains directly copying my full site.. and it did it ON DEMAND. like if i changed my website text and checked his site , it was instantly changing his page , so his page must pull my page "on the fly"
                                              hatisblack at yahoo.com

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                                              • SmokeyTheBear
                                                ►SouthOfHeaven
                                                • Jun 2004
                                                • 28609

                                                #24
                                                i just banned those ip's from pulling my site and they just pull blank text now.. but i cant help but think it hurt me..
                                                hatisblack at yahoo.com

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                                                • infecto
                                                  Confirmed User
                                                  • May 2003
                                                  • 1697

                                                  #25
                                                  Yeah I would think it can't hurt that much because there must be some sort of distinction within the search engines but the thought that it does is always there.

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                                                  • SmokeyTheBear
                                                    ►SouthOfHeaven
                                                    • Jun 2004
                                                    • 28609

                                                    #26
                                                    well the only good thing is , if they target the top searches then it must hurt everyone equally
                                                    hatisblack at yahoo.com

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                                                    • pornguy
                                                      Too lazy to set a custom title
                                                      • Mar 2003
                                                      • 62910

                                                      #27
                                                      Not sure if it will hurt you or not. But maybe passing the info to the SE will help keep you frome being hurt by it.
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                                                      • Crypt
                                                        Confirmed User
                                                        • Apr 2004
                                                        • 2225

                                                        #28
                                                        Originally posted by SmokeyTheBear
                                                        i just banned those ip's from pulling my site and they just pull blank text now.. but i cant help but think it hurt me..
                                                        You can use those ppl at you advantage sometime

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                                                        • Grapesoda
                                                          So Fucking Banned
                                                          • Jul 2003
                                                          • 46234

                                                          #29
                                                          Originally posted by infecto
                                                          If someone is copying text from your website without permission is it possible to get them taken down by their host?
                                                          try it and see what happens

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                                                          • mardigras
                                                            Bon temps!
                                                            • Feb 2003
                                                            • 14194

                                                            #30
                                                            Originally posted by infecto
                                                            Yeah I would think it can't hurt that much because there must be some sort of distinction within the search engines but the thought that it does is always there.
                                                            I've had pages practically fall out of Google while text copy pages took #1 results for site unique keywords...
                                                            .

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                                                            • woj
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                                                              • Jul 2002
                                                              • 47880

                                                              #31
                                                              try searching for a sample c&d letter online and then I guess send it to them and their host, won't really cost you anything more than a stamp... and when they see a physical letter, good chance they will act on it to avoid any problems...
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