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  • Shap
    Confirmed User
    • May 2001
    • 8313
    #1

    Wow! How is Weg Cash getting staying under 1% chargebacks with this scam?

    So I see WEG cash pin their announcement about free trials. So i check it out to see what they are doing. Just as their surfers would do I click the join button and here is the signup form i get....



    So the surfers get here after clicking a page that says FREE Trial.

    They are getting a free trial (which renews at $39.17) but wait that's not all

    they also get a nice pre-checked cross sell for 3 days that costs $1.37 and renews and $34.86
    AS WELL as another 3 day free trial that renews at $39.37.

    To summarize the surfer who thought they were getting a free trial is really getting access to 3 different sites for $1.37 for 3 days and will be billed $113.40 in 3 days time.

    So I guess my question is wtf how are they doing this and staying under 1% chargebacks? The interesting thing is vipweb.com and xxxpass.com look like two bullshit sites run by either them or some other big pps company trying to bang out charges back and forth with WEG.
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    • Dirty F
      Too lazy to set a custom title
      • Jul 2001
      • 59204
      #2
      Welcome to the internet. First time you see this?

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        • xNetworx
          So Fucking What
          • Jan 2004
          • 14445
          #3
          Why is it a "scam"?

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            • Dirty F
              Too lazy to set a custom title
              • Jul 2001
              • 59204
              #4
              I think the first time ive seen it was 1998 or so

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                • Pipecrew
                  Master of Gfy.com
                  • Feb 2002
                  • 14888
                  #5
                  the customer service is probably issuing refunds no questions asked, kinda like clickcash does.

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                    • tony299
                      lurker
                      • Aug 2002
                      • 57021
                      #6
                      Originally posted by pimpporn
                      Why is it a "scam"?
                      not a scam but not cool because for the most part surfers dont read and thats why prechecked cross sales work and thats why we have a 1% cb ratio because of all the people that charged back when getting all these charges they didnt read about.

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                        • Shap
                          Confirmed User
                          • May 2001
                          • 8313
                          #7
                          Originally posted by Pipecrew
                          the customer service is probably issuing refunds no questions asked, kinda like clickcash does.
                          Yeah no doubt. And I'm sure they have a number of merchant accounts set up and ready to go to bounce business around if they lose one merchant account.

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                            • Shap
                              Confirmed User
                              • May 2001
                              • 8313
                              #8
                              Originally posted by tony404
                              not a scam but not cool because for the most part surfers dont read and thats why prechecked cross sales work and thats why we have a 1% cb ratio because of all the people that charged back when getting all these charges they didnt read about.
                              Exactly.

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                                • Penny24Seven
                                  So Fucking What
                                  • Jun 2007
                                  • 6287
                                  #9
                                  I think more people pay attention to that then before but still probably lots that are typing with their dick out and do not see it either. Kinda like asking out every girl in the club and hope one goes home with you. They have it prechecked and hope some do not ask for refunds
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                                    • Shap
                                      Confirmed User
                                      • May 2001
                                      • 8313
                                      #10
                                      Originally posted by Hookers and School Girls
                                      I think more people pay attention to that then before but still probably lots that are typing with their dick out and do not see it either. Kinda like asking out every girl in the club and hope one goes home with you. They have it prechecked and hope some do not ask for refunds
                                      Of course. If this practice was not high risk than ccbill and paycom would gladly let everyone do it. I'm sure if you asked rand or ron they would not touch a billing option like this.

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                                        • Timbo
                                          Confirmed User
                                          • Dec 2001
                                          • 550
                                          #11
                                          I'm speechless at this moment.

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                                            • Violetta
                                              Affiliate
                                              • Jul 2004
                                              • 28735
                                              #12
                                              wouldnt call it a scam.
                                              M&A Queen

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                                                • Shap
                                                  Confirmed User
                                                  • May 2001
                                                  • 8313
                                                  #13
                                                  Originally posted by Rockatansky
                                                  wouldnt call it a scam.
                                                  I bet if you were a surfer and joined the site you would.

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                                                    • Mohawk Steve
                                                      (╯°□°）╯︵ ┻━┻
                                                      • Apr 2005
                                                      • 3223
                                                      #14
                                                      Originally posted by Shap
                                                      Of course. If this practice was not high risk than ccbill and paycom would gladly let everyone do it. I'm sure if you asked rand or ron they would not touch a billing option like this.
                                                      I've seen dual pre-checked cross sales on sites that process with the Big 2 before.
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                                                        • Jman
                                                          Already an AI veteran
                                                          • Sep 2003
                                                          • 22838
                                                          #15
                                                          Make money now, don't wait for tomorrow...

                                                          Like Franck posted it's been the nature of this beast since back in the days, hell back in the days it was even worst.
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                                                            • Shap
                                                              Confirmed User
                                                              • May 2001
                                                              • 8313
                                                              #16
                                                              Originally posted by Steve PP
                                                              I've seen dual pre-checked cross sales on sites that process with the Big 2 before.
                                                              Agreed. But not advertised as a free trial with a paid trial snuck in as a pre-checked cross sell. That's low.

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                                                                • Mutt
                                                                  Too lazy to set a custom title
                                                                  • Sep 2002
                                                                  • 34431
                                                                  #17
                                                                  it's 1998 all over again! shady is in again shap!
                                                                  I moved my sites to Vacares Hosting. I've saved money, my hair is thicker, lost some weight too! Thanks Sly!

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                                                                    • Shap
                                                                      Confirmed User
                                                                      • May 2001
                                                                      • 8313
                                                                      #18
                                                                      Originally posted by Mutt
                                                                      it's 1998 all over again! shady is in again shap!
                                                                      No shit. I get the feeling these older pps companies are dipping into their old bag of tricks to drum up business. I'm sure spam is still good for them but not as good as it once was so they have to go back to what works for them, deceiving surfers.

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                                                                        • BradM
                                                                          Confirmed User
                                                                          • Dec 2003
                                                                          • 3397
                                                                          #19
                                                                          Originally posted by Shap
                                                                          I bet if you were a surfer and joined the site you would.
                                                                          Why do you think no one signs up for porn anymore and they all leech torrents?

                                                                          I wouldn't trust us slimeball FUCKS either?

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                                                                            • AlienQ - BANNED FOR LIFE
                                                                              best designer on GFY
                                                                              • Mar 2003
                                                                              • 30307
                                                                              #20
                                                                              Shap whats happened to you dude?

                                                                              When we were at XPICS ya didnt have many qualms about that sort of thing.

                                                                              A little business advice.
                                                                              Mind your own...
                                                                              Last edited by AlienQ - BANNED FOR LIFE; 10-04-2007, 01:29 PM.

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                                                                                • Shap
                                                                                  Confirmed User
                                                                                  • May 2001
                                                                                  • 8313
                                                                                  #21
                                                                                  Originally posted by BradM
                                                                                  Why do you think no one signs up for porn anymore and they all leech torrents?

                                                                                  I wouldn't trust us slimeball FUCKS either?
                                                                                  I know. Shortminded greedy pigs ruin it for the hard working companies that actually produce something of value.

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                                                                                    • Shap
                                                                                      Confirmed User
                                                                                      • May 2001
                                                                                      • 8313
                                                                                      #22
                                                                                      Originally posted by AlienQ
                                                                                      Shap whats happened to you dude?

                                                                                      When we were at XPICS ya didnt have many qualms about that sort of thing.

                                                                                      Some business advice.
                                                                                      Mind your own...
                                                                                      When I was at xpics i was exposed to this bs. When I left xpics I made sure my clients (surfers) were never treated that way.

                                                                                      No offense but I don't need any business advice.

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                                                                                        • Jason
                                                                                          Confirmed User
                                                                                          • Dec 2002
                                                                                          • 4287
                                                                                          #23


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                                                                                            • BradM
                                                                                              Confirmed User
                                                                                              • Dec 2003
                                                                                              • 3397
                                                                                              #24
                                                                                              Originally posted by Shap
                                                                                              When I was at xpics i was exposed to this bs. When I left xpics I made sure my clients (surfers) were never treated that way.

                                                                                              No offense but I don't need any business advice.
                                                                                              I wouldn't take advice from Alien on anything. He was begging for rent money not too long ago now he is back to his usual "I am king" mode.

                                                                                              Alien you're a degenerate douche.

                                                                                              Shap: Glad one of the big boys gets it. Too bad you're in a TRAGIC minority group.

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                                                                                                • makefuckingmoney
                                                                                                  Confirmed User
                                                                                                  • Oct 2003
                                                                                                  • 3277
                                                                                                  #25
                                                                                                  im just as dumb..i clicked sexape in your sig and thought you were pushing beastiality!

                                                                                                  does that get a lot of beastiality clicks?

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                                                                                                    • Shap
                                                                                                      Confirmed User
                                                                                                      • May 2001
                                                                                                      • 8313
                                                                                                      #26
                                                                                                      Originally posted by makefuckingmoney
                                                                                                      im just as dumb..i clicked sexape in your sig and thought you were pushing beastiality!

                                                                                                      does that get a lot of beastiality clicks?
                                                                                                      None that i know of.

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                                                                                                        • Hank_Heartland
                                                                                                          Confirmed User
                                                                                                          • Sep 2002
                                                                                                          • 3987
                                                                                                          #27
                                                                                                          Originally posted by Rockatansky
                                                                                                          wouldnt call it a scam.
                                                                                                          Bet those surfers will never ever buy another adult site

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                                                                                                            • makefuckingmoney
                                                                                                              Confirmed User
                                                                                                              • Oct 2003
                                                                                                              • 3277
                                                                                                              #28
                                                                                                              3 days to 3 different sites for 1.37 is not a bad deal. i usually pay more for just 1 site.

                                                                                                              is there any others you would recommend? im always looking for a better buy.

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                                                                                                                • JD
                                                                                                                  Too lazy to set a custom title
                                                                                                                  • Sep 2003
                                                                                                                  • 22651
                                                                                                                  #29
                                                                                                                  i'm just sexy...

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                                                                                                                    • BradShaw
                                                                                                                      Confirmed User
                                                                                                                      • Oct 2001
                                                                                                                      • 7840
                                                                                                                      #30
                                                                                                                      Who says you have to stay under 1%? You must not be a member of the tribe, they all have special processing!
                                                                                                                      Sig too big

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                                                                                                                        • Mutt
                                                                                                                          Too lazy to set a custom title
                                                                                                                          • Sep 2002
                                                                                                                          • 34431
                                                                                                                          #31
                                                                                                                          Originally posted by Shap
                                                                                                                          No shit. I get the feeling these older pps companies are dipping into their old bag of tricks to drum up business. I'm sure spam is still good for them but not as good as it once was so they have to go back to what works for them, deceiving surfers.
                                                                                                                          oh they are - lots of old school people have come back into the industry. it really is 1998 again.
                                                                                                                          I moved my sites to Vacares Hosting. I've saved money, my hair is thicker, lost some weight too! Thanks Sly!

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                                                                                                                            • Shap
                                                                                                                              Confirmed User
                                                                                                                              • May 2001
                                                                                                                              • 8313
                                                                                                                              #32
                                                                                                                              Originally posted by makefuckingmoney
                                                                                                                              3 days to 3 different sites for 1.37 is not a bad deal. i usually pay more for just 1 site.

                                                                                                                              is there any others you would recommend? im always looking for a better buy.
                                                                                                                              If it's such a great deal why won't paycom and ccbill let me run that offer to my surfers?

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                                                                                                                                • Juicy D. Links
                                                                                                                                  So Fucking Banned
                                                                                                                                  • Apr 2001
                                                                                                                                  • 122992
                                                                                                                                  #33
                                                                                                                                  can i post a gratuitiuos self pic of myself now?

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                                                                                                                                    • Doctor Dre
                                                                                                                                      Too lazy to set a custom title
                                                                                                                                      • Jan 2001
                                                                                                                                      • 51692
                                                                                                                                      #34
                                                                                                                                      Originally posted by AlienQ
                                                                                                                                      Shap whats happened to you dude?

                                                                                                                                      When we were at XPICS ya didnt have many qualms about that sort of thing.

                                                                                                                                      A little business advice.
                                                                                                                                      Mind your own...
                                                                                                                                      Funny how you are ALWAYS minding other people's business... non stop.

                                                                                                                                      You are giving biz advice to all the big boys out there, yet you were sucking cock for rent money a couple months ago.

                                                                                                                                      Are you even aware of how stupid you look ?
                                                                                                                                      Originally posted by rayadp05
                                                                                                                                      I rebooted, deleted temp files, history, cookies and everything...still cannot view the news clip. All I see is that fucking gay ass music video from "Rick Roll". Anyone else have a different link to the news clip?

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                                                                                                                                        • aico
                                                                                                                                          Moo Moo Cow
                                                                                                                                          • Mar 2004
                                                                                                                                          • 14748
                                                                                                                                          #35
                                                                                                                                          Originally posted by Shap
                                                                                                                                          I bet if you were a surfer and joined the site you would.
                                                                                                                                          According to the XBiz survey, 60% of surfers already believe free trials or $1 trials are scams, and 37% say it's "Not worth the effort".

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                                                                                                                                            • Shap
                                                                                                                                              Confirmed User
                                                                                                                                              • May 2001
                                                                                                                                              • 8313
                                                                                                                                              #36
                                                                                                                                              Originally posted by BradShaw
                                                                                                                                              Who says you have to stay under 1%? You must not be a member of the tribe, they all have special processing!
                                                                                                                                              Good point.

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                                                                                                                                                • AlienQ - BANNED FOR LIFE
                                                                                                                                                  best designer on GFY
                                                                                                                                                  • Mar 2003
                                                                                                                                                  • 30307
                                                                                                                                                  #37
                                                                                                                                                  Originally posted by Shap
                                                                                                                                                  When I was at xpics i was exposed to this bs. When I left xpics I made sure my clients (surfers) were never treated that way.

                                                                                                                                                  No offense but I don't need any business advice.
                                                                                                                                                  Umm yeah you do...
                                                                                                                                                  Or you wouldnt have made this thread.
                                                                                                                                                  Last edited by AlienQ - BANNED FOR LIFE; 10-04-2007, 01:54 PM.

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                                                                                                                                                    • RichC
                                                                                                                                                      Confirmed User
                                                                                                                                                      • Jul 2001
                                                                                                                                                      • 368
                                                                                                                                                      #38
                                                                                                                                                      yawn
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                                                                                                                                                        • sextoyking
                                                                                                                                                          Confirmed User
                                                                                                                                                          • Dec 2001
                                                                                                                                                          • 6034
                                                                                                                                                          #39
                                                                                                                                                          Originally posted by makefuckingmoney
                                                                                                                                                          3 days to 3 different sites for 1.37 is not a bad deal. i usually pay more for just 1 site.

                                                                                                                                                          is there any others you would recommend? im always looking for a better buy.

                                                                                                                                                          Better Buy, LOL
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                                                                                                                                                            • Swish
                                                                                                                                                              Confirmed User
                                                                                                                                                              • Mar 2006
                                                                                                                                                              • 1421
                                                                                                                                                              #40
                                                                                                                                                              Originally posted by Shap
                                                                                                                                                              I bet if you were a surfer and joined the site you would.
                                                                                                                                                              Maybe they should read things before they enter their card info.

                                                                                                                                                              If you get a credit card and don't read the fine print that says your APR will increase after x amount of time does that make it a scam? No. As a consumer it is your responsibility to be certain about what you're getting.


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                                                                                                                                                                • makefuckingmoney
                                                                                                                                                                  Confirmed User
                                                                                                                                                                  • Oct 2003
                                                                                                                                                                  • 3277
                                                                                                                                                                  #41
                                                                                                                                                                  Originally posted by Shap
                                                                                                                                                                  If it's such a great deal why won't paycom and ccbill let me run that offer to my surfers?
                                                                                                                                                                  you mean the lowest trial they will let you run is $24.95 on twistys? wow that does seem outrageous. I didn't know it was like that against you guys. I would be pissed at Wedg too.

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                                                                                                                                                                    • NinjaSteve
                                                                                                                                                                      Too lazy to set a custom title
                                                                                                                                                                      • Dec 2003
                                                                                                                                                                      • 11089
                                                                                                                                                                      #42
                                                                                                                                                                      Originally posted by tony404
                                                                                                                                                                      not a scam but not cool because for the most part surfers dont read and thats why prechecked cross sales work and thats why we have a 1% cb ratio because of all the people that charged back when getting all these charges they didnt read about.
                                                                                                                                                                      It is the responsibility of the consumer to read the terms before they join. Nothing is hidden on adult join forms and it's as easy as clicking a check box. Why would a consumer not read what they're buying on the join form? That's pretty dumb of them.
                                                                                                                                                                      ...

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                                                                                                                                                                        • Shap
                                                                                                                                                                          Confirmed User
                                                                                                                                                                          • May 2001
                                                                                                                                                                          • 8313
                                                                                                                                                                          #43
                                                                                                                                                                          Originally posted by RichC
                                                                                                                                                                          yawn
                                                                                                                                                                          http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fbM9EP2G0LM
                                                                                                                                                                          LOL Damn the weg cash fan club is logging on to come to their defense. I'm honored my thread was important enough for you to make your 3rd useless post of the year here.

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                                                                                                                                                                            • uno
                                                                                                                                                                              RIP Dodger. BEST.CAT.EVER
                                                                                                                                                                              • Dec 2002
                                                                                                                                                                              • 18450
                                                                                                                                                                              #44
                                                                                                                                                                              Originally posted by AlienQ
                                                                                                                                                                              A little business advice.
                                                                                                                                                                              Mind your own...


                                                                                                                                                                              Need... to... breathe...



                                                                                                                                                                              Yes Shap, please take business advice from Alien. We all know how miserably you have failed at everything you do and could sure use his priceless advice.

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                                                                                                                                                                                • fuzebox
                                                                                                                                                                                  making it rain
                                                                                                                                                                                  • Oct 2003
                                                                                                                                                                                  • 22352
                                                                                                                                                                                  #45
                                                                                                                                                                                  Originally posted by Shap
                                                                                                                                                                                  To summarize the surfer who thought they were getting a free trial is really getting access to 3 different sites for $1.37 for 3 days and will be billed $113.40 in 3 days time.
                                                                                                                                                                                  The industry was built on bullshit like that... I can't believe people are still doing it

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                                                                                                                                                                                    • peterk
                                                                                                                                                                                      Confirmed User
                                                                                                                                                                                      • Aug 2007
                                                                                                                                                                                      • 3529
                                                                                                                                                                                      #46
                                                                                                                                                                                      Many sponsors are using this system and it is not a scam
                                                                                                                                                                                      Bogat mama ala cu loturi de trafic

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                                                                                                                                                                                        • Timbo
                                                                                                                                                                                          Confirmed User
                                                                                                                                                                                          • Dec 2001
                                                                                                                                                                                          • 550
                                                                                                                                                                                          #47
                                                                                                                                                                                          Originally posted by Shap
                                                                                                                                                                                          If it's such a great deal why won't paycom and ccbill let me run that offer to my surfers?
                                                                                                                                                                                          hahahaha
                                                                                                                                                                                          Shap,

                                                                                                                                                                                          My, my, how vocal you have been this week about how other people should run their businesses. Torrents, cross sales, what's next? Let me tell you how this works.

                                                                                                                                                                                          a.) read the join form and uncheck the boxes
                                                                                                                                                                                          b.) read the join form and uncheck the boxes

                                                                                                                                                                                          Keyword here, is read. Did that help?

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                                                                                                                                                                                            • Jace
                                                                                                                                                                                              FBOP Class Of 2013
                                                                                                                                                                                              • Jan 2004
                                                                                                                                                                                              • 35562
                                                                                                                                                                                              #48
                                                                                                                                                                                              Originally posted by AlienQ
                                                                                                                                                                                              Shap whats happened to you dude?

                                                                                                                                                                                              When we were at XPICS ya didnt have many qualms about that sort of thing.

                                                                                                                                                                                              A little business advice.
                                                                                                                                                                                              Mind your own...
                                                                                                                                                                                              are you fucking serious?

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                                                                                                                                                                                                • Shap
                                                                                                                                                                                                  Confirmed User
                                                                                                                                                                                                  • May 2001
                                                                                                                                                                                                  • 8313
                                                                                                                                                                                                  #49
                                                                                                                                                                                                  Originally posted by makefuckingmoney
                                                                                                                                                                                                  you mean the lowest trial they will let you run is $24.95 on twistys? wow that does seem outrageous. I didn't know it was like that against you guys. I would be pissed at Wedg too.
                                                                                                                                                                                                  Nice way to take my comment in an entirely different direction. You know exactly what I was saying and couldn't reply. Tell me if a free trial as well as a cross checked free trial and a $1.37 trial are such a great deal why won't paycom and ccbill let you and I run that offer?

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                                                                                                                                                                                                    • Shap
                                                                                                                                                                                                      Confirmed User
                                                                                                                                                                                                      • May 2001
                                                                                                                                                                                                      • 8313
                                                                                                                                                                                                      #50
                                                                                                                                                                                                      Originally posted by Timbo
                                                                                                                                                                                                      hahahaha
                                                                                                                                                                                                      Shap,

                                                                                                                                                                                                      My, my, how vocal you have been this week about how other people should run their businesses. Torrents, cross sales, what's next? Let me tell you how this works.

                                                                                                                                                                                                      a.) read the join form and uncheck the boxes
                                                                                                                                                                                                      b.) read the join form and uncheck the boxes

                                                                                                                                                                                                      Keyword here, is read. Did that help?
                                                                                                                                                                                                      You sat here for that long and that was the best reply you could come up with? Wow. If that's the case again why won't paycom and ccbill allow their clients to run that type of offer?

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