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seems to me its her parents taking away what she freely choose to do. it may be honoring her families wishes but probably not hers. her family is still trying to control her life even after death.you don't know you're wearing a leash if you sit by the peg all day..Comment
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Sorry to hear about Lindsay. I haven't seen the email so I'm not sure whether you already gave this detail - are there any (numbered) FHGs of her, or was it only zip content?Comment
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seems to me its her parents taking away what she freely choose to do. it may be honoring her families wishes but probably not hers. her family is still trying to control her life even after death. her family probably hated the fact she had nudes online and here is their chance to change it.you don't know you're wearing a leash if you sit by the peg all day..Comment
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Pornographers with morals still has me laughing in the aisles. Come on guys.
18 year old girls are legally adults and old enough to make decissions regarding appearing naked and in some cases in sexual acts on the Internet. They are fully capable of understanding this consquence and thus it is okay for me to make content out of them.
(next breath)
When a girl dies, we should probably take down her content because it's the right thing to do. No, it's the moral thing to do. Afterall, "many aren't old enough or wise enough yet to consider those consequences beforehand".
I'd probably personally take the content down at the families request, but not because I think it's moral or right, more or less because I know there's no shortage of girls turning 18 tomorrow that are down on their luck and a little short sighted and there's plenty of guys with cameras to take advantage of that and sell it to me as a replacement.
You should head down to your local PTA meeting and talk about your business. See what people think of your morals there.Last edited by WarChild; 01-13-2006, 08:00 AM..Comment
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RIP LINDSEYOriginally posted by wedouglasThis thread is useless without pics.
Doug is the only one i agree with in this whole thread cause im torn on which side to take.
i one hand i would repect thier wishes and take down the pics but i havent even joined ftv cash. is it any good? whats the ratios?
and on the other hand, whos got time for that every time someone passes. Hell im only half done removing all the hardcore content because of that 2257 thingy. i got 50emails to go read, and i gotta get up and drive to my real job everyday. at least give these people a picture right doug?
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you are a simple minded person who sees life in black and white - god bless you.Originally posted by WarChildI moved my sites to Vacares Hosting. I've saved money, my hair is thicker, lost some weight too! Thanks Sly!Comment
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You're wishing me the blessing of an invisible man in the sky and you think I'm the simple minded one. Good call.Originally posted by Mutt.Comment
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RIP LindsayComment
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Chris,
I don't pay you for the right to use your content, so consider it done...no questions asked.
Thanks for letting me use your content to make money btw, and my condolences to you and her family.
Nice to see you in Vegas again, even if only for a few minutes.Comment
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gimme a fuckin break. I dont even know what she looks like. you cant even find her on google. doubt pulling her content is even necessary. no one has any. and if they do, i doubt they know it because this girl is apparently, not to show disrespect, but a nobody in this biz.Originally posted by Doctor FeelgoodRIP LINDSEY
Doug is the only one i agree with in this whole thread cause im torn on which side to take.
i one hand i would repect thier wishes and take down the pics but i havent even joined ftv cash. is it any good? whats the ratios?
and on the other hand, whos got time for that every time someone passes. Hell im only half done removing all the hardcore content because of that 2257 thingy. i got 50emails to go read, and i gotta get up and drive to my real job everyday. at least give these people a picture right doug?Comment
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This is the truth of the matter right here. FTV Cash made and/or owns the content and it looks as if they've just invalidated everyone's license to use it. Fair enough. If you make a good money with FTV Cash, it's hardly even an inconvience to take a few sets down one time.Originally posted by ronaldo.Comment
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Doctor Feelgood,
after reading your post about posting her pic, im not sure if you didnt like my post or what.
was that red smiley directed at my comment? if so, read the post above. if not, forget about the post above.Last edited by wedouglas; 01-13-2006, 08:37 AM.Comment
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RIP to that girl...
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we had this thread if you remember a month ago,sad thing it really happened. The sponsor decided pics to go down and this should be done by affiliates. Nothing more to discuss here.Comment
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Thats why they sent you an e mail . And didnt publish it here .Originally posted by lagwagonComment
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Are you that retarded? Have you ever used google before? Why do you even want to see a picture of her? Bottom line: someone has suffered a tragic loss and the OWNERS of the content have respectfully and quietly asked that anyone using THEIR content please cease to use the images of one girl. No one cares if their decision to do this was right or wrong: it's THEIR call and none of your business.Originally posted by wedouglas
I will not respond to any posts in this thread (personal attacks or otherwise) and I would hope that everyone would do the same. FTV has already said they didn't want this to be all over the boards and the responses keep bumping it to the top of page 1. Now please stop posting here and let this post and subject fade away into the archives-=-Your site probably isn't nearly as secure as you think-=-Comment
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No disrespct intended but I personally don't know the names of all the models that I promote and am sure that there are others here that are the same, so a picture would help to identify the model in these cases just my
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you mentioned google and i thought id go look in google images for lindsay ftv girls. good idea, thanks doug!Originally posted by wedouglas
LOL, what red smily? why you mad at me? for agreeing with you that this thread needs a pic?
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The pornographic trail can be virtually erased on the net which isn't possible with dvd and print.Sig FreeComment
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Everyone's throwing in an opinion, so here goes.
1) I know everyone likes to make drama on GFY, and it's great fun to be a keyboard warrior, and pretend you're so hard fucking Medussa makes you limp, but everyone here, I'm sure, has a basic set of principles.
2) Chris from FTV has notified us that one of their models has died. He has also asked that you removed any sets you have of her up, for a sign of respect.
- I handle his FHGs for him. 2 seconds work, sets gone, and all of the links still work.
- You've been given a choice, take them down, or leave them up.
Instead of loving the chance to be insulting, why not take the 20 seconds to take down the sets. Or leave them up. But, while you're doing what you wish, have some fucking respect, and leave out the callous comments.Comment
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I'm only up to this post in the thread, I wasn't going to post in this thread since last time I got involved with a similar issue I was "evil" and a "prick". I made the same exact point you just did and nobody could reply.Originally posted by WarChild
You content guys crack me up.
When a girl is alive its "ok" to prey on her age, her immaturity, her naive ways, her need for attention, her need for drug money, her willingness to suck a cock only because she doesn't want to live on the street. Its "ok" then. SHE made the choice!
I buy the secondary product. I use the secondary product. The content. The pictures, the videos. I buy pictures of a girl that was desperate for money doing things she really shouldn't be doing. But I'm not going to sit here and candy coat it either. I buy the pictures to make money fully knowing this girl will more than likely regret her decision tomorrow, next week, next month, or next year.
Here's a question for those of you who "care" so much about these girls. When a girl comes back to you a year after shooting and confronts you about it, she's crying, her family disowned her, boyfriend left her... how do you respond? Do you hop online and call all of your clients demanding they stop using content of this girl? Or do you look her in the face and say "tough, you made a decision"?
Affiliates should respect the wishes of FTV and remove the content. Though I really think some of you content providers need to take a step back and think about what exactly you do to put food on your table. Maybe it isn't as "innocent" as you pawn it off to be.Vacares - Web Hosting, Domains, O365, Security & More - Paxum and BTC Accepted
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I think it might be very difficult for some to take down images if they don't know exactly which girl you are talking about. I know FTV girls has a ton of models and the only one that I can honestly say that I could put a face to the name would be LiaComment
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did you ever think that in order to take a girls content down, you just MIGHT need to know what she looks likeOriginally posted by DEViANCEI host with VacaresComment
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First, I feel that if the sponsor requests you to take down the images, you should. Yeah it may be a pain, but they obviously feel strong about the situation and in my world I respect those that I choose to do business with.
On the other hand, I think it is silly to request this as a sponsor. I understand it is traumatic, but this was something she chose to do and I'm assuming was paid for at the time. This was a job and nothing more. It is why these girls are paid hundreds of dollars to stand in front of a camera naked. Do we remove all of Chris Farley's movies from the shelves because he passed away? I would hope the family is returning the money that she made for the pictures. Respect goes both ways.Comment
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Originally posted by WarChild
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If I was promoting Chris Farley (to steal an example) and the surfer expected to see more of Chris Farley in the paysite, I guess I'm maybe using false advertising and could be terminated for that. Why bother attracting members who will cancel when you know the content they seek is not there anyway?
So you wouldnt tell people to run down to the corner store to pick up Tommy Boy when you were already told it was removed.
So, if a request from a sponsor doesnt make it for you, then let your business sense kick in.
My condolences to her family and friends.43-922-863 Shut up and play your guitar.
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your post had an anger smiley above my qoute. was confused.Originally posted by Doctor FeelgoodComment
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Originally posted by Sly
I will take it one step further
Look at how many times a picture of an ugly chick gets on here and people say "I'd hit it.... with a bat"
etc etc etc
If Taylor Rain got really fat, do you think there would be an outpouring of support for her, or would she be replaced by the next younger, cuter, skinnier and sluttier brunette?
Every day girls without good fathers turn 18 and end up doing porn. Much like cattle they are freely led away to the slaughter house ( content shops ) and processed into content. If that chick turns around later and wants her content taken down, then she can pay for it to be taken down. Respect is not something you deal with when you buy or sell a product.
If I sell someone my Supra, and 3 years later I feel so bad without my car, can I just ask for it back? No.
Content is content, it's not a relationship with the girl, it's not friendship, it's them getting fxcked on camera and doing EXACTLY that. It's the wholesale trade of their dignity for money. If the girl or guy wants the content taken down, they have to pay for my investment.
I did not pay you to have sex with someone, I paid you to not care what I do with the content, how I title it, or how long it stays online.
If I owned the rights to Lindsay's content, I would not take it down. Why? If her parents cared so much in the first place, they probably would've done whatever they could to prevent her from getting into adult in the first place.https://3-veo.com/
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I think (and I could be way wrong) that his point was that there is no need for posting an image or keeping this thread alive. Personally, I am an FTV affiliate and if they ask me to take something down I would do it without hesitation out of respect for them. Upon receiving this email I didn't immediately get on GFY and ask if anyone had pics, the first thing I did was Google->images "ftv lindsay" and up popped about 120 pics of her.Originally posted by beemk
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yeah, and according to everyone in this thread tommy boy should be taken off store shelves since he passed away.Originally posted by PR_TomI host with VacaresComment
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Two big thumbs up to Rob and Chris for doing the right thing.Originally posted by lagwagon
Your actions show why you are one of the best programs out there. FTV is a class act all the way!
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Originally posted by llporterTwo big thumbs up to Rob and Chris for doing the right thing.
Your actions show why you are one of the best programs out there. FTV is a class act all the way!
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Again, so it's classy in the first place to take photos of her pussy spread wide open, but as soon as she dies it's suddenly not cool?
How does that work?
Respect for the family? Are they ashamed their dead daughter's sole contibution to the world was spreading her vagina on the internet, and are trying to cover her tracks?
>Shrug<
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Originally posted by Mutt
right on..
Chris and FTV crew, sorry for your loss and sorry this was drug out on GFY.
R.I.P. LindsayComment
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If you all knew the full story you'd promptly shut the fuck up.
So shut the fuck up.Comment
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Yes - That is the only issue. The reasons why do not matter. If the grieving parents made the request it is the right thing to do!Originally posted by HugglesComment
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As an affiliate, you are licensed to use the content from the sponsor IF the sponsors gives you that right. If the sponsor tells you to take down a specific set of content FOR WHATEVER REASON, you fucking do it or face the legal consequences of using unlicensed images... If the girl had been found to be underage (which is a risk you take when you promote "teen" type sites), all the complainers would be running around taking down the image without a peep. If you're too lazy to run your business properly then go work at McDonalds.. Idiots.Comment
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did you not read the thread? i dont think anyone has argued that ftvcash didnt have the right to tell people to take down the images. nor did they even tell anyone that they HAVE to take down the images.Originally posted by TempestI host with VacaresComment
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I read the thread... My point was to crybaby bitches like you not wanting to take it down "just" because she died and her parents requested it be taken down... FTV should have said "REMOVE THEM" instead of "it would be nice it you removed them"... For some reason they've forgotten that they OWN the content and can dictate what affiliates do with it.Originally posted by beemkComment
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Everyone is posting their opinion, here's mine.
1. I dont run a tgp and me taking down content isnt as easy as doing a search and clicking remove. I have to go through over 50 sites, find out if the girl is on any of them, if she is I have to switch the content, etc Let's sasy I've put up 10 galleries over 8 domains. That's roughly 30-45 minutes of work. I only work 8 hours a day. That 45 minutes didnt make me any money, and im not getting paid for it. That's food off my table. When I sign up to promote a program, one of the things I look for is credibility. Is this a solid company? Because if they go under, or a model flakes or some other bullshit happens, thats food off of my table. I only want to promote sites that I know are stable and wont ask me to remove content becuase they know how much it pisses me off.
2. I don't know if I could tell a family who just lost their child that I will not remove the pictures. If I was in FTV's position, I probably would have done the same thing. That's why I don't run a paysite. Paysite owners need to learn to take the good and the bad of producing content and not divert their responsibilities onto their partners when shit goes south.
3. I do apologize to those who were effected by this tragedy. The people here who have had negative things to say, I assume, don't mean to make it any worse on you. However it is important that when sponsors tell their affiliates to pull content, that there is a backlash. I want program owners to have this thread in mind next time someone is asking them to pull content for whatever reason. It shows both sides of the storey.Comment
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im sad, this thread reminds me of all the girls that passed in 2005. Theres pornstars Lea DeMae, Britney Sky, and my good friend Britney Madison that flipped her car 100 feet into the air and landed upside down
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Stfu.
Nobody Else Should Post In This Thread.
Respect Their Wishes And Go The Fuck Away. Jesus.Comment
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You know, I know of a pretty well-known model who died recently who I know for a fact many people are still promoting. Mainly because her death was not discussed on the boards and spread around to everyone. I don't feel that those who are promoting her are being disrespectful. I would like to think that this girl would want to be remembered and captured in her prime. I ran across her pics on a blog the other day and paused to take a look and remember her beauty, spirit, and the good times that we had hanging out. But, from what Lia said, this situation seems different.
We are in an odd industry and I think we have to take things on a case by case basis. Would Jenna Jameson want every movie pulled if she died -- I doubt it. But would a girl who did one shoot and didn't feel comfortable about doing more --probably. So, respect that.
I mean really...how many sales are you going to lose from a few galleries? And are those sales worth you being a soulless and inconsiderate asshole? I felt differently before Lia's post, but given the circumstances, I'd say that it might be the right thing to do to take them down this time.Comment
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Agree with you 200% MuttOriginally posted by MuttComment
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You are correct, though FTV's support and owners are top class people. The question and how they requested to take down the content fits perfectly in this picture. So be kind and do everything you have in your power to take down that content. I'm pretty sure they will not start lawsuits if you don't but it's that simple to click on the 'delete button', so what's the big deal ;)Originally posted by Tempest
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Respect my wishes and stop using capital letters for every word.Originally posted by BrettJ.Comment
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What happened to Britney Sky ?Originally posted by Doctor Feelgoodim sad, this thread reminds me of all the girls that passed in 2005. Theres pornstars Lea DeMae, Britney Sky, and my good friend Britney Madison that flipped her car 100 feet into the air and landed upside down- Free Premium Domain Lists and Tools at Clickmojo.com
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