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So phatservers unplugges 2 of my servers
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Originally posted by NetRodentAnother lesson...
Don't depend completely upon any one third party. Always assume they will fuck up or fuck you over. A simple human mistake or intentional act of sabotage could end up being damaging in ways that cannot be remedied by message board ranting and/or lawsuits.
that was pretty much my point.. I wanted mike to know what it felt like when you really fuck up and can be held liable for making stupid decissions...
truth is, there wasnt shit on that server that wasnt backed up elshwere.. and it was of no importance if it was lost either way.
You can change your boxers now mike.. im done fuking with you.
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I've been with Phatservers since 2001 (almost 6 years) and they are the best host you could ever ask for! Bar none!
You could sit here and tell me they fucked your grandma in the ass and it wouldn't make a shit to me, I'd still use them.
Even if they were clearly in the wrong and you had solid proof (WHICH I SEE NONE IN THIS THREAD) I'd still use them and I'm sure all of their clients feel the same.
They are that good.
You'd have to come up with a much more worse scenario than this to hurt their reputation.
No hard feelings Pimpdog, just move on to another host and be happy.Comment
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So, this would mean the only real problem is they may have shut down the machines by power button rather than waiting on root? Which probably means the machines didn't have crap for data on them and it's fine to just flip the switch. Even more so when you are on your way down to pick the boxes up.
And damn, a steak does sound damn good, I think I will go pick us up some.
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I have been with Split infinity since 2000... phatservers was merly a pet project that didnt develop...Originally posted by BVI've been with Phatservers since 2001 (almost 6 years) and they are the best host you could ever ask for! Bar none!
You could sit here and tell me they fucked your grandma in the ass and it wouldn't make a shit to me, I'd still use them.
Even if they were clearly in the wrong and you had solid proof (WHICH I SEE NONE IN THIS THREAD) I'd still use them and I'm sure all of their clients feel the same.
They are that good.
You'd have to come up with a much more worse scenario than this to hurt their reputation.
No hard feelings Pimpdog, just move on to another host and be happy.
Im happy where I host my important stuff, which is at SI. I leave the table scraps for small hosts like phatservers..
the thread was dead several posts ago.. I wish mike a merry xmas next year, and if he happens to have a client have issues on xmas eve next year, he thinks of this thread.A fast fortune is easy to earn! Just go with a winner!Comment
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Should have paid on time, then.Originally posted by EpicJimYou guys are all missing the fucking point on why we requested they be moved in the first place.....they refused to admin a server because of a late payment
See, this is funny: you expect them to take extra care of you when you don't give a fuck about them.Comment
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Originally posted by CamRabbitShould have paid on time, then.
See, this is funny: you expect them to take extra care of you when you don't give a fuck about them.
now this has to be one of the dumbest posts i have ever read on GFYA fast fortune is easy to earn! Just go with a winner!Comment
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Seems to me that both sides fucked up...
1. Epic didn't pay their bill on time.
2. Phatservers jumped the gun and pulled the plug even though they were told to leave them up until payment had been made.
Ok.. So what.. Both sides show they're human and make mistakes.. Kiss and make up and go your own ways.Comment
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Originally posted by BVNot with Epic Cash you haven't. That didn't come along until the later part of 2002.
What were you doing in 2000?
a few failed projects before the birth of epic cash.. I really do not think that is relevant to this issue...A fast fortune is easy to earn! Just go with a winner!Comment
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seems like a misunderstanding to me. I can see how phatservers could assume you meant right away , and i can see how you assumed they would be kept up. Can't say from the observers view whether they yanked the plug or not.hatisblack at yahoo.comComment
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Move along....no more Drama here folks.....pimpdogg has left the building....we all know how much you all miss him....i will bet all the horns sounded when there was actually a PD drama thread...i have seen several bandwagon jumpers come in this thread just for their moment of glory.......they never post here any other time.....Comment
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it's not our fault you work for an assclown ;)Originally posted by EpicJimMove along....no more Drama here folks.....pimpdogg has left the building....we all know how much you all miss him....i will bet all the horns sounded when there was actually a PD drama thread...i have seen several bandwagon jumpers come in this thread just for their moment of glory.......they never post here any other time.....money talks and bullshit walks.Comment
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Always two sides to a story... Phatservers Rox!!!Originally posted by MooseI know everyone here loves the drama, but there is none and see no reason this was even brought here.And there are two sides to every story and the one posted is a bit skewed as usual.
We were asked to take the servers offline today by someone at epic named Ethan, so we complied.
Here is the log of the convo if your guy Ethan failed to show it to you between your tech and one of mine:
[10:44] EMG Ethan: Hello Chris
[10:44] prodiac: hows it going
[10:44] EMG Ethan: It's going ok, how are you?
[10:44] prodiac: alright
[10:45] EMG Ethan: I wanted to arrange for Joel to pick up that server again...
[10:45] EMG Ethan: actaully both servers
[10:46] prodiac: Okay, will you be cancelling service?
[10:46] EMG Ethan: Yes, but not until we pay the bill
[10:47] EMG Ethan: I assume the billing problem has been worked out, right?
[10:47] prodiac: I dont have that information, Jim talked with Billing, thats all I know, but I will find out information on if anything needs to be done before the servers are picked up, and I will get back to you shortly
[10:47] EMG Ethan: Ok, thanks Chris
[10:50] prodiac: Okay we will remove them and give them to the noc guys at the datacenter with instructions to provide them to Joel when he comes, I will let you know when they are ready for him.
At this point we removed the server like requested.
Now does this look like anything that was posted?FTP
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Originally posted by EpicJimobviously you only get 2 or 3 emails a day so you have no fucking idea how one could get missed...especially with Vegas prep time....
Maybe one day when you actually amount to shit on the bottom of my shoe...you will have a clue....
edited, read more thread ;)Last edited by toddler; 01-10-2006, 05:54 PM.Comment
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Originally posted by p1mpdoggJoel from SI will be posting shortly with how he found the servers when he arrived at the data center... he plugged them in there and waited for them to come up.... guess what? they did an fscked? 2 servers. why? cause they were not shut down, they were yanked from the power supply.
why aren't you running journaled file systems to begin with? and, well, I'd like to see the actual console logs...Comment
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Originally posted by TheDocYou can unplug a unix machine from the wall, it doesn't mean shit. Unplug it, shut it off, shut it down, unix doesn't give two rats ass. How do you "carelessly" unplug a server? Do you kick the cord out of the wall?
you are so amazingly fucking wrong here its not even near to being funny.Comment
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Really? Cause PS just flipped the switch and the machine was fine.Originally posted by toddleryou are so amazingly fucking wrong here its not even near to being funny.
It "could" lose data "could" is the keyword. As long as the machine isn't a full traffic/db machine, it isn't going to make a difference, and his machines didn't do much..
I have a unix machine in my home office, and my son flips the damn thing on and off all the time. At least 2 times a week, never hurts it. Just like flipping the switch on a windows machine it "could" do damage, but normally it doesn't.Last edited by TheDoc; 01-10-2006, 07:05 PM.
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If we shut down accounts for late payments, half of GFY would be complaining daily about their sites being shut down. Hehe.Originally posted by Juicy D. LinksI have a baby virtual acct there
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heheh cool bro ill touch base with you , I have baby acctOriginally posted by SlyIf we shut down accounts for late payments, half of GFY would be complaining daily about their sites being shut down. Hehe.Comment
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I was late on payment once to Phatservers but I made sure they knew that I wanted to continue my service. They were super cool about it.Comment
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No, believe it or not there are a lot of businesses that still deal with invoices. Considering most businesses pay at set intervals bills don't always get paid by the "due date".Originally posted by bhutocracydon't people just recur on their credit card anyhow?Comment
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Before you send anyone to that school, why don't you try graduating from it first.Originally posted by p1mpdoggIll tell you what, Ill send phatservers 600 bucks to send mike to school on business ethics 101
LOL"WTF, on google you can find the answer to every question in human history, EXCEPT how to convert cams..
Its crazy..."
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In 2000 Pimpdog was working as a gay cam model for Clickcash, he ran some promo pages on his server to help attract new clients.Originally posted by BVNot with Epic Cash you haven't. That didn't come along until the later part of 2002.
What were you doing in 2000?"WTF, on google you can find the answer to every question in human history, EXCEPT how to convert cams..
Its crazy..."
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Yeah, me also, guess his mainstream stuff didn't take off and he needed some work.Originally posted by PornwolfI thought you were no longer with Epic Cash. I'm confused."WTF, on google you can find the answer to every question in human history, EXCEPT how to convert cams..
Its crazy..."
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Don't worry he's made a lot of thosesOriginally posted by p1mpdoggnow this has to be one of the dumbest posts i have ever read on GFYOriginally posted by rayadp05I rebooted, deleted temp files, history, cookies and everything...still cannot view the news clip. All I see is that fucking gay ass music video from "Rick Roll". Anyone else have a different link to the news clip?Comment
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Are you fucking retarded you stupid troll?Originally posted by FootLooseEpic Cash is huge, Epic Cash is Great, Epic Cash has one shitty exclusive site! Funny that they cannot even afford a 300 dollar hosting bill. You guys must be pushing insane bandwidth on that virtual account, seems about right! LOLOriginally posted by rayadp05I rebooted, deleted temp files, history, cookies and everything...still cannot view the news clip. All I see is that fucking gay ass music video from "Rick Roll". Anyone else have a different link to the news clip?Comment
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Yeah I'm sure he tried that, he needed some cash and performed for guys as a clickcash model and did cpl shows with his then girlfriend. There's a few screenshots floating around of him jacking on cam with gay chat dialogue, i'll see if i can find them.Originally posted by darksoulI thought he was spamming icq
"WTF, on google you can find the answer to every question in human history, EXCEPT how to convert cams..
Its crazy..."
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Not with some of the biggers compagnies ... the accounting send everything by hand most of the time. It just clear up what's been paid and what's not and you get an exact tracking of where your $ goesOriginally posted by bhutocracydon't people just recur on their credit card anyhow?Originally posted by rayadp05I rebooted, deleted temp files, history, cookies and everything...still cannot view the news clip. All I see is that fucking gay ass music video from "Rick Roll". Anyone else have a different link to the news clip?Comment
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Sounds like its pretty clear from the logs that Phatservers thought the servers were being picked up and was getting them ready. If I was the epic cash guy, thats the way I would have read it, even if I didnt make it clear thats what I wanted. I would have read it like that and made it clear thats not what we wanted.
But not offereing support to a customer on Christmas eve when they have a server problem because of a small unpaid bill, is not good at all. If Epic cash where not good for the money then Phatservers should have told them to take their server else where, not offer a cut down service with no prior warning
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Phatservers is pretty flexible with late payments. Several months ago i was having an issue with one of my credit cards. They email you several times if you "forget" or if rebill fails.
"This is a Courtesy Notice that your invoice is not paid. After 3 notices/7 Days,
your account will be suspended. Your prompt attention to this matter is
appreciated. You may experience a disruption in service to your account."Comment
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Pimplepuppy employs people to make him look a dumbass.Originally posted by Doctor DreOr maybe he's screaming after ethan for making him look like a dumbass
Why would he do that when he does it so much better himself?Comment
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My credit card kept maxing out right before payment date and I got to the point of three notices one month before noticed it in my junk folder and still, never was shut down.
Just sounds to me like miscommunication. This is why it's very important for both parties in textual conversations to clearly state their intentions and/or instructions as plain as possible. Nobody is really in the worng here, just lack of detailed instructions as to how the server was to be handled/shutdown. As obvious as it sounds when shutting down equipment with hard drives, it's still best to sound like an idiot when asking for specific ways to handle the situation.
Mind you, a root pass should have been obtained to shut down properly. it;s just commons ense to shut down servers properly. Just killing power to a 'nix box is like sticking your hand in a garborator(sp?) and fliping random switches on the wall above your kitchen sink, something aweful is bound to happen.Comment
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I'd take him up on it, I took one of our guys out to see Red Rock, good times!Originally posted by MrPheerthe pleasure was all mine... next time you're in Vegas, rent a Harley and I'll show you some of the local scenery... got some beautiful canyons, mountains and desert right outside of town
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people lose fingers over 300 bux!Originally posted by p1mpdoggare you really this stupid? I host at multiple places, and invoices always get paid ontime.. 1 invoice got missed during a very busy time for us.. might i add it was a 300 dollar invoice, not 3k or 30k.. 300 fucking dollars... thats justification for phatservers to yank the plug? i guess so..... didnt hurt me at all, I have those 2 servers the yanked from the wall today already online at Split infinity.
yea i and my people are only human.. we missed a 300 dollar invoice.. cry me a river.
mike can take the 300 bucks and stick it up his ass....
there is no excuse to pull the plug on any server over something so petty.
but really, stupid move unless there's more to the story. i've always heard nice things about phatservers, but this board is all ass kissing anyways sooooooComment
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