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01-10-2006, 02:12 PM

You guys are all missing the fucking point on why we requested they be moved in the first place.....they refused to admin a server because of a late payment...that,in turn, prompted us to move the servers to SI......because that simply would not have happened because of an oversight.....we felt wronged for lack of service and decided to stop doing biz with phatservers....when told them we were going to stop service the servers were pulled....pretty fucking black and white... you need to see the whole picture...that is all......no ICQ logs needed....

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01-10-2006, 02:12 PM

Originally posted by Moose

I know everyone here loves the drama, but there is none and see no reason this was even brought here.And there are two sides to every story and the one posted is a bit skewed as usual.
We were asked to take the servers offline today by someone at epic named Ethan, so we complied.
Here is the log of the convo if your guy Ethan failed to show it to you between your tech and one of mine:

[10:44] EMG Ethan: Hello Chris
[10:44] prodiac: hows it going
[10:44] EMG Ethan: It's going ok, how are you?
[10:44] prodiac: alright
[10:45] EMG Ethan: I wanted to arrange for Joel to pick up that server again...
[10:45] EMG Ethan: actaully both servers
[10:46] prodiac: Okay, will you be cancelling service?
[10:46] EMG Ethan: Yes, but not until we pay the bill
[10:47] EMG Ethan: I assume the billing problem has been worked out, right?
[10:47] prodiac: I dont have that information, Jim talked with Billing, thats all I know, but I will find out information on if anything needs to be done before the servers are picked up, and I will get back to you shortly
[10:47] EMG Ethan: Ok, thanks Chris
[10:50] prodiac: Okay we will remove them and give them to the noc guys at the datacenter with instructions to provide them to Joel when he comes, I will let you know when they are ready for him.

At this point we removed the server like requested.

Now does this look like anything that was posted?

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01-10-2006, 02:13 PM

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i wonder if its too late to get a sig spot up in here..

its never too late when im around.. Ill make sure that sig shines like gold when im in the mood.

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01-10-2006, 02:14 PM

Originally posted by p1mpdogg

ahh good business is unplugging a server carelessly, and not doing it the right way... is THAT what you are saying chris.. they did me a favor???????????

you fucking tool.

You can unplug a unix machine from the wall, it doesn't mean shit. Unplug it, shut it off, shut it down, unix doesn't give two rats ass. How do you "carelessly" unplug a server? Do you kick the cord out of the wall?

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01-10-2006, 02:15 PM

Originally posted by EpicJim

You guys are all missing the fucking point on why we requested they be moved in the first place.....they refused to admin a server because of a late payment...that,in turn, prompted us to move the servers to SI......because that simply would not have happened because of an oversight.....we felt wronged for lack of service and decided to stop doing biz with phatservers....when told them we were going to stop service the servers were pulled....pretty fucking black and white... you need to see the whole picture...that is all......no ICQ logs needed....

oh yeah....101!!!

These crack heads are to busy feeding off the sig impressions to acknowledge this fact.

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01-10-2006, 02:15 PM

Originally posted by TheDoc

You can unplug a unix machine from the wall, it doesn't mean shit. Unplug it, shut it off, shut it down, unix doesn't give two rats ass. How do you "carelessly" unplug a server? Do you kick the cord out of the wall?

and if data is lost because of thier negligence? then what smart guy?

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01-10-2006, 02:17 PM

Originally posted by Moose

Root passwords did not work, and by the time they needed to come down Ethan was not around to provide them. The boxes were powered down. nothing "yanked".

Why didn't the tech ctrl+alt+del then power down? That way the box would properly shutdown.

If these were BSD boxes powering them down improperly is a huge no-no, as I'm sure you guys are aware.

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01-10-2006, 02:19 PM

Originally posted by p1mpdogg

and if data is lost because of thier negligence? then what smart guy?

What data? I have a unix machine about 3 feet from me, I can unplug it, fire it back up, and no data is going to be lost.. This isn't a windows machine man, it's a unix machine.

Yes, it should be shut down the correct way, but it won't fuck anything up.

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01-10-2006, 02:19 PM

Originally posted by studiocritic

Why didn't the tech ctrl+alt+del then power down? That way the box would properly shutdown.

If these were BSD boxes powering them down improperly is a huge no-no, as I'm sure you guys are aware.

oh they are aware, thats why they are consulting their lawyer right now.

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01-10-2006, 02:20 PM

Originally posted by TheDoc

You can unplug a unix machine from the wall, it doesn't mean shit. Unplug it, shut it off, shut it down, unix doesn't give two rats ass. How do you "carelessly" unplug a server? Do you kick the cord out of the wall?

Erm, wrong. If you power down a unix box without unmounting properly, you will risk almost certain corruption of some files. If you're lucky, they'll be unimportant or reparable. Thats why fsck runs, and calls a fs "dirty" when you boot up the box next time.

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01-10-2006, 02:20 PM

Originally posted by TheDoc

What data? I have a unix machine about 3 feet from me, I can unplug it, fire it back up, and no data is going to be lost.. This isn't a windows machine man, it's a unix machine.

Yes, it should be shut down the correct way, but it won't fuck anything up.

thank you for finally admitting they mishandled my machines.

thanks Doc.. I can always count on you.

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01-10-2006, 02:20 PM

I used to have my server at a fucked up company called NectarTech, run by complete incomps, my server was always down, like at least once a week, so I got sick of arguing with the tech guy over there (plus he kept lying about stupid shit), and decided to move my server to Reflected.net. (hasn't been down in over a year now). Anyway,NectarTech put a block on my server so Reflected couldn't transfer the files. Luckily the guys at Reflected are fucking brilliant, and found a way around it. I also filed a complaint with the Better Business Bureau, they of course removed the block, but the files were already transfered so it was pointless.
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01-10-2006, 02:21 PM

Originally posted by aico

I used to have my server at a fucked up company called NectarTech, run by complete incomps, my server was always down, like at least once a week, so I got sick of arguing with the tech guy over there (plus he kept lying about stupid shit), and decided to move my server to Reflected.net. (hasn't been down in over a year now). Anyway,NectarTech put a block on my server so Reflected couldn't transfer the files. Luckily the guys at Reflected are fucking brilliant, and found a way around it. I also filed a complaint with the Better Business Bureau, they of course removed the block, but the files were already transfered so it was pointless.

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01-10-2006, 02:23 PM

3 pages of advertising for phatservers.. hope you idiots use it well.

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01-10-2006, 02:25 PM

Originally posted by p1mpdogg

thank you for finally admitting they mishandled my machines.

thanks Doc.. I can always count on you.

Okay, first off you have no proof that they didn't shut the machines down the correct way. You have no idea how they shut them down at all. That is a fact unless I missed that post. Either way, you are still blowing smoke out of your ass about this, and you know it.

And yes, it "can" fuck a unix machine up, about as good as a chance as a windows machine being fucked up from an improper shut down. But, normally it doesn't do anything.

I can't prove what I say, just like you can't. But I would bet my BW/servers that PhatServers DID NOT shut your machines down due to non-payment.

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01-10-2006, 02:26 PM

Moose,Chris is teh best tech over there at phatservers
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01-10-2006, 02:28 PM

Originally posted by TheDoc

Okay, first off you have no proof that they didn't shut the machines down the correct way. You have no idea how they shut them down at all. That is a fact unless I missed that post. Either way, you are still blowing smoke out of your ass about this, and you know it.

And yes, it "can" fuck a unix machine up, about as good as a chance as a windows machine being fucked up from an improper shut down. But, normally it doesn't do anything.

I can't prove what I say, just like you can't. But I would bet my BW/servers that PhatServers DID NOT shut your machines down due to non-payment.

eastman admitted he 'powered down' the server. thats my proof.

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01-10-2006, 02:29 PM

So is the issue about the servers, the service, the techs, or pulling the machines? The idea/topic has changed directions like 10 times, not sure what the problem was now..

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01-10-2006, 02:30 PM

Originally posted by p1mpdogg

eastman admitted he 'powered down' the server. thats my proof.

"powered down" does not mean unpluged.. Powerdown is a good term for shutting a machine down.

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01-10-2006, 02:33 PM

Originally posted by TheDoc

So is the issue about the servers, the service, the techs, or pulling the machines? The idea/topic has changed directions like 10 times, not sure what the problem was now..

To be honest, its about everything. they totally mishandled this situation, and the situation we were in on xmas eve. they know they fucked up, and they know how it should of been handled, now I gotta waste someones time checking the servers for lost data and if I find out im missing some important information, then that just opens up a huge can of worms.

so you tell me christopher. If you server was just powered down 2 servers to be exact, and you might have lost data.. what would you do? bite the bullet or speak out?

quit kissing ass.... its not like you.

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01-10-2006, 02:34 PM

Originally posted by TheDoc

"powered down" does not mean unpluged.. Powerdown is a good term for shutting a machine down.

eastman said he pushed the power button till the machine turned off. is that more clear for you you fucking moron?

now if thats true? we will never know... they could have pulled the plug or whatever... doesnt matter. it was shut down improperly on 2 dif servers. this is undisputed. even they admit it.

jesus, do I have to draw a map for you aswell?

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01-10-2006, 02:35 PM

Originally posted by p1mpdogg

To be honest, its about everything. they totally mishandled this situation, and the situation we were in on xmas eve. they know they fucked up, and they know how it should of been handled, now I gotta waste someones time checking the servers for lost data and if I find out im missing some important information, then that just opens up a huge can of worms.

so you tell me christopher. If you server was just powered down 2 servers to be exact, and you might have lost data.. what would you do? bite the bullet or speak out?

quit kissing ass.... its not like you.

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01-10-2006, 02:37 PM

Originally posted by p1mpdogg

To be honest, its about everything. they totally mishandled this situation, and the situation we were in on xmas eve. they know they fucked up, and they know how it should of been handled, now I gotta waste someones time checking the servers for lost data and if I find out im missing some important information, then that just opens up a huge can of worms.

so you tell me christopher. If you server was just powered down 2 servers to be exact, and you might have lost data.. what would you do? bite the bullet or speak out?

quit kissing ass.... its not like you.

I'm not kissing ass, you are acting like an ass over something your staff fucked up on. I agree that Chris could have been a bit more clear, but the ICQ is pretty good proof that everything was taken care of in the eyes of phatservers and the machines would get taken down, as requested.

As requested.....

Trey, it's Chris btw, not Christopher Since we are using first names on GFY..

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01-10-2006, 02:40 PM

send me 300 epass right now

I'll make the sales next week.

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01-10-2006, 02:41 PM

Originally posted by TheDoc

I'm not kissing ass, you are acting like an ass over something your staff fucked up on. I agree that Chris could have been a bit more clear, but the ICQ is pretty good proof that everything was taken care of in the eyes of phatservers and the machines would get taken down, as requested.

As requested.....

Trey, it's Chris btw, not Christopher Since we are using first names on GFY..

does taking the server down as requested say push the power button and risk losing data? or would a tech take that as properly shutting a server down the right way.

you do the math christopher. we requested them taken offline when paid, they were never paid, no reason to take them offline in the first place.. never the less they did, and they did it wrecklessly.

how can you ignore that? plus what Jim posted earlier.... whats your agenda christopher?

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01-10-2006, 02:42 PM

Originally posted by p1mpdogg

eastman said he pushed the power button till the machine turned off. is that more clear for you you fucking moron?

now if thats true? we will never know... they could have pulled the plug or whatever... doesnt matter. it was shut down improperly on 2 dif servers. this is undisputed. even they admit it.

jesus, do I have to draw a map for you aswell?

Could you quote the post that Chris said he "pushed the power button till the machine turned off" I seemed to have missed that post.

However, I did find..

"Root passwords did not work, and by the time they needed to come down Ethan was not around to provide them. The boxes were powered down. nothing "yanked"."

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01-10-2006, 02:46 PM

Originally posted by TheDoc

Could you quote the post that Chris said he "pushed the power button till the machine turned off" I seemed to have missed that post.

However, I did find..

"Root passwords did not work, and by the time they needed to come down Ethan was not around to provide them. The boxes were powered down. nothing "yanked"."

I never posted that I powered it off with the button, I told him on aim that it was powered off with the power button. Just as Moose had already posted in this thread.
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01-10-2006, 02:46 PM

Originally posted by p1mpdogg

does taking the server down as requested say push the power button and risk losing data? or would a tech take that as properly shutting a server down the right way.

you do the math christopher. we requested them taken offline when paid, they were never paid, no reason to take them offline in the first place.. never the less they did, and they did it wrecklessly.

how can you ignore that? plus what Jim posted earlier.... whats your agenda christopher?

Which Jim post? The one he quoted and left off part of the quote?

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01-10-2006, 02:48 PM

I still would be upset my servers were down AFTER reading those logs. Put it like this, an employee says he wants to arrange for them to be moved AFTER the bill is paid. Even if you want to be nice and do it early you should check with someone to make sure they want them off right that minute. I don't know of anyone that wants their server laying around waiting on someone else to pick it up and put it back online. That leaves the obvious assumption that they should be turned off when someone is there to get them to minimize downtime.

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01-10-2006, 02:49 PM

What was on the servers anyway?

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01-10-2006, 02:51 PM

Originally posted by TheDoc

What data? I have a unix machine about 3 feet from me, I can unplug it, fire it back up, and no data is going to be lost.. This isn't a windows machine man, it's a unix machine.

Yes, it should be shut down the correct way, but it won't fuck anything up.

You're obviously not running any servers that get written to frequently.

Try pulling the plug on a high traffic database server sometime.

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01-10-2006, 02:53 PM

Originally posted by NetRodent

You're obviously not running any servers that get written to frequently.

Try pulling the plug on a high traffic database server sometime.

It's epiccash, on an off host, how much bw/data for $300 could they be doing?

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01-10-2006, 02:54 PM

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You must be perfect, paying you bills regulary and on time every time

um yeah I do. I hate fucking deadbeats who pay their bills late.
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01-10-2006, 02:54 PM

Originally posted by TheDoc

It's epiccash, on an off host, how much bw/data for $300 could they be doing?

One database entry is too much to neglect.

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01-10-2006, 02:54 PM

It's pretty clear to me that Phatservers phucked up and mishandled this situation.
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01-10-2006, 02:55 PM

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um yeah I do. I hate fucking deadbeats who pay their bills late.

Have fun at your 9 to 5.

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01-10-2006, 02:55 PM

Originally posted by EpicJim

obviously you only get 2 or 3 emails a day so you have no fucking idea how one could get missed...especially with Vegas prep time....

Maybe one day when you actually amount to shit on the bottom of my shoe...you will have a clue....

you're so high and mighty you couldn't even pay your bill. Get a clue fucktard

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01-10-2006, 02:56 PM

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It's pretty clear to me that Phatservers phucked up and mishandled this situation.

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01-10-2006, 02:56 PM

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It's pretty clear to me that Phatservers phucked up and mishandled this situation.

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01-10-2006, 02:57 PM

Originally posted by NetRodent

You're obviously not running any servers that get written to frequently.

Try pulling the plug on a high traffic database server sometime.

The Doc is just kissing ass.. isnt like him.. thought he had some business class and knew right from wrong...

what was on the server or how much traffic it was getting and wether it was a DB server or not isnt the issue.. its a very simple issues..

they jumped the gun, treated us like shit, mishandled OUR hardware, and made a bad decisssion out of anger..

lesson?

dont make business decissions when angry.. walk away.. cool down, think things through then decide. Im not the asshole here.. Im a customer that didnt pay his bill on time and got shitty service becuase of it.. simple human mistake on my part.

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01-10-2006, 03:03 PM

Originally posted by p1mpdogg

The Doc is just kissing ass.. isnt like him.. thought he had some business class and knew right from wrong...

what was on the server or how much traffic it was getting and wether it was a DB server or not isnt the issue.. its a very simple issues..

they jumped the gun, treated us like shit, mishandled OUR hardware, and made a bad decisssion out of anger..

lesson?

dont make business decissions when angry.. walk away.. cool down, think things through then decide. Im not the asshole here.. Im a customer that didnt pay his bill on time and got shitty service becuase of it.. simple human mistake on my part.

You do understand that you should have done the exact same thing as you stated?

I have no reason to kiss phatservers ass, I do host with them, but I would be on your ass about anything this stupid, like I have done in the past.

Your guy was coming down to pick up the machine correct? Once Chris stated that he would take down the machines, why didn't your guy jump in and stop him? Why didn't you call and have them put back online? Why did you just call and find out what the problem was? ICQ them? Email them? Hell you could have even paid the bill that second if it really was the problem.

This works two ways, Chris could have waited, but if phatservers was fine with not getting the $300 first, then what the hell is the big deal? You have no idea if the machines were forced down, I'm sure no data was lost anyway and you are just blowing this up.

This is why I'm on this post, you are making yourself sound like an idot. You should leave and go have a few beers or something.

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01-10-2006, 03:08 PM

Originally posted by TheDoc

You do understand that you should have done the exact same thing as you stated?

I have no reason to kiss phatservers ass, I do host with them, but I would be on your ass about anything this stupid, like I have done in the past.

Your guy was coming down to pick up the machine correct? Once Chris stated that he would take down the machines, why didn't your guy jump in and stop him? Why didn't you call and have them put back online? Why did you just call and find out what the problem was? ICQ them? Email them? Hell you could have even paid the bill that second if it really was the problem.

This works two ways, Chris could have waited, but if phatservers was fine with not getting the $300 first, then what the hell is the big deal? You have no idea if the machines were forced down, I'm sure no data was lost anyway and you are just blowing this up.

This is why I'm on this post, you are making yourself sound like an idot. You should leave and go have a few beers or something.

1. the machine was forced down.. not properly shut down.. they could have shut it down properly but chose not too.

2. no data was lost, yes i was blowing this up
3. i am drinking hence the dramma
4. I am all out of shit to say

they know they fucked up bottom line.. doubt they will admit it, but i learned my lesson... and im sure they did too.

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01-10-2006, 03:11 PM

Originally posted by p1mpdogg

1. the machine was forced down.. not properly shut down.. they could have shut it down properly but chose not too.

2. no data was lost, yes i was blowing this up
3. i am drinking hence the dramma
4. I am all out of shit to say

they know they fucked up bottom line.. doubt they will admit it, but i learned my lesson... and im sure they did too.

I'm out of beer :/

If anything this is a two way mistake, both of you should buck up, say your sorry, shake hands & kiss, and go have some beers together.

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01-10-2006, 03:12 PM

i went for coffee and came back, we're still on the same page. this is disappointing drama

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01-10-2006, 03:13 PM

from what my boss tells me that in the years prodiac has worked for Splitinfinity he could not imagin that ever happening my boss also knows mike very well couldn't imagine them doing something like this but I have been asked to post the condition of the servers when I recieved them, I am happy to report there is no data loss however both servers did require rather long fsck's upon boot, which is evidence of improper shutdown, this might be a miscommuncation between both parties involved and i do not wish to be a part of that I am just posting what I saw and was asked to post.

peace to all and to all a good night

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01-10-2006, 03:14 PM

Are you two done now?!? Can I make dinner or does GFY still take rank?

Vacares rules.

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01-10-2006, 03:15 PM

Originally posted by split_joel

from what my boss tells me that in the years chris eastman has worked for Splitinfinity he could not imagin that ever happening my boss also knows mike very well couldn't imagine them doing something like this but I have been asked to post the condition of the servers when I recieved them, I am happy to report there is no data loss however both servers did require rather long fsck's upon boot, which is evidence of improper shutdown, this might be a miscommuncation between both parties involved and i do not wish to be a part of that I am just posting what I saw and was asked to post.

peace to all and to all a good night

case closed.

GUILTY as charged.

next.......

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01-10-2006, 03:15 PM

Originally posted by Moose

I know everyone here loves the drama, but there is none and see no reason this was even brought here.And there are two sides to every story and the one posted is a bit skewed as usual.
We were asked to take the servers offline today by someone at epic named Ethan, so we complied.
Here is the log of the convo if your guy Ethan failed to show it to you between your tech and one of mine:

[10:44] EMG Ethan: Hello Chris
[10:44] prodiac: hows it going
[10:44] EMG Ethan: It's going ok, how are you?
[10:44] prodiac: alright
[10:45] EMG Ethan: I wanted to arrange for Joel to pick up that server again...
[10:45] EMG Ethan: actaully both servers
[10:46] prodiac: Okay, will you be cancelling service?
[10:46] EMG Ethan: Yes, but not until we pay the bill
[10:47] EMG Ethan: I assume the billing problem has been worked out, right?
[10:47] prodiac: I dont have that information, Jim talked with Billing, thats all I know, but I will find out information on if anything needs to be done before the servers are picked up, and I will get back to you shortly
[10:47] EMG Ethan: Ok, thanks Chris
[10:50] prodiac: Okay we will remove them and give them to the noc guys at the datacenter with instructions to provide them to Joel when he comes, I will let you know when they are ready for him.

At this point we removed the server like requested.

Now does this look like anything that was posted?

nothing like it

pay your bills or eat the shit - who the fuck does pimpledog think he is
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01-10-2006, 03:15 PM

Originally posted by kristin

Are you two done now?!? Can I make dinner or does GFY still take rank?

cook the man a steak.. he deserves it after all that ass kissing

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01-10-2006, 03:16 PM

Originally posted by p1mpdogg

lesson?

dont make business decissions when angry.. walk away.. cool down, think things through then decide. Im not the asshole here.. Im a customer that didnt pay his bill on time and got shitty service becuase of it.. simple human mistake on my part.

Another lesson...

Don't depend completely upon any one third party. Always assume they will fuck up or fuck you over. A simple human mistake or intentional act of sabotage could end up being damaging in ways that cannot be remedied by message board ranting and/or lawsuits.

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