YARGH! Business - If you could remake paypal/epassporte

Collapse
X
 
  • Time
  • Show
Clear All
new posts
  • Doctor Dre
    Too lazy to set a custom title
    • Jan 2001
    • 51692

    #51
    50 possible improvements for online wallets
    Originally posted by rayadp05
    I rebooted, deleted temp files, history, cookies and everything...still cannot view the news clip. All I see is that fucking gay ass music video from "Rick Roll". Anyone else have a different link to the news clip?

    Comment

    • After Shock Media
      It's coming look busy
      • Mar 2001
      • 35299

      #52
      Personally multiple accounts would be nice.

      Paypal makes you jump through a great deal of hoops to get multiple accounts listed at the same address. This makes things very damn inconvient if you run more than one business or if your trying to keep your books seperate for assorted projects. I find it a big waste of time to have to manually go through all the transactions and then figure out which one is for which business and so on.

      Reciept folders that are customizable. Sort of like an email system yet where you can edit and name them as you choose so you can file away assorted transactions as you please.

      Customizable auto responders for when people send you funds.

      A customizable calendar inside of the billing area that you can set reminders that also will email you or message you if you choose.

      Preset future pending transactions. Sort of like how my online bank does it. I can set it to transfer funds at a future date in the amount I choose on the day I choose. This should be bi directional and even account to account.

      Minimum and maximum balances. Option to set these or leave as blank. If set the account will always ensure you have a minimum amount available for instant transactions, and or a maximum amount in the accout and any excess will automatically be transfered to your bank account on record.

      Fee's comparable to paypal and less like epassporte.

      Options to send in US funds or local currency *at reasonable exchange rate.

      Ability for people to pay a bill to you even if they do not have an account. So they can just pay you by credit card or whatnot.

      Ability to add notes to assorted users you have in your own address book.

      [email protected] ICQ:135982156 AIM: Aftershockmed1a MSN: [email protected]

      Comment

      • Yngwie
        I am an Alien from space
        • May 2003
        • 11118

        #53
        another good thing would be no limits on the amounts you can load into the account.. Like with epassporte there is a $500 daily limit (for a regular account) so if I was to make $1000 with a sponsor that pays me through epassporte I wouldn't be able to get it. So I would have to try to talk to the sponsor and get them to make 2 deposits of $500 within a 2 day period which would be a pain in the ass. No limits for anything would be a plus.
        ICQ: 16544251 - Skype: gator37 @ eastlink.ca - email: yngwie @ isys.ca

        Comment

        • Jarmusch
           
          • May 2003
          • 12479

          #54
          1- Add funds to your account with a bank account from ANY country in the world, instead of just a few select countries.
          2- Withdrawal money by wire transfer to ANY country in the world, instead of a just a few select countries.
          4- Reasonably high daily transaction limits.
          3- Option to put your money in a savings account and earn anual interest. ;)

          Comment

          • Jarmusch
             
            • May 2003
            • 12479

            #55
            4- Have 24/7 live chat support accessible from inside your account with staff that actually has a clue on how the system works.

            Comment

            • fuzebox
              making it rain
              • Oct 2003
              • 22363

              #56
              Originally posted by Yngwie
              Like with epassporte there is a $500 daily limit (for a regular account) so if I was to make $1000 with a sponsor that pays me through epassporte I wouldn't be able to get it. So I would have to try to talk to the sponsor and get them to make 2 deposits of $500 within a 2 day period which would be a pain in the ass.
              Business accounts can send larger amounts to personal accounts. I've received many transfers over $500.

              Comment

              • DamageX
                Marketing & Strategy
                • Jun 2001
                • 14293

                #57
                Originally posted by Jarmusch
                4- Have 24/7 live chat support accessible from inside your account with staff that actually has a clue on how the system works.
                Just in case this wasn't clear enough.
                Whitehat is for chumps

                If you don't do it, somebody else will - true story!

                Comment

                • Marshal
                  Biz Dev and SEO
                  • Jun 2005
                  • 15225

                  #58
                  Originally posted by MaDalton
                  transfer of funds by wire to foreign accounts like in paypal
                  I totally agree!
                  and to add multi-currency system, like on moneybookers...
                  24/7 live support (by phone and skype)....
                  Last edited by Marshal; 12-10-2005, 12:03 PM.
                  ---
                  Busy ranking websites on Google...

                  Comment

                  • Chio
                    Confirmed User
                    • Oct 2002
                    • 8002

                    #59
                    Bump for the new guys

                    I seo'd my hair yesterday and today it's pr7!
                    RIP Texas Dreams

                    Are you a content producer or program owner sick of tube sites? Contact me on ICQ: 39-183769

                    Comment

                    • Tipsy
                      Confirmed User
                      • Jul 2001
                      • 6989

                      #60
                      Originally posted by DamageX
                      It IS that much of a hassle to open an account. Many non-US webmasters can't even verify the pending amount due to their bank regulations. So sponsors opening ePassporte accounts for their webmasters have been a God send.
                      Yep - hit the same problem with two different bank accounts trying 12 months apart so I've given up now. It's never going to be useful enough for me to justify the hassle of trying to open it and some of the fees are scarily high.

                      I've been wanting a backup or simple good alternative to PayPal for some of our projects for a long while now so here's hoping it all goes smoothly To be honest my biggest fear is you'll somehow get the fraud part wrong and either make it so tough that it's useless for users (as so very many have in the past) or go too soft on fraud and not be in business for long due to being hit hard (again like so many have). It's a very tough balancing act to get right and I wish you all the luck n the world doing so.
                      Ignorance is never bliss.

                      Comment

                      • Tipsy
                        Confirmed User
                        • Jul 2001
                        • 6989

                        #61
                        The other thing I find interesting is the amount of people comparing a new system to epassporte. Epassporte is as good as useless for anything other than BtoB style payments such as sponsor payments. Despite PayPal's obvious flaws and problems you cannot compare it to epassporte as they for the most part do things very differently and PP is far more functional, as hopefully Chio's new system will be.
                        Ignorance is never bliss.

                        Comment

                        • jollyperv
                          Confirmed User
                          • Nov 2001
                          • 3927

                          #62
                          There is only one person that I'd trust with my money on this board and that's lensman.

                          Comment

                          • Elli
                            Reach for those stars!
                            • Apr 2003
                            • 17991

                            #63
                            I haven't read the full thread (spank me, I've been naughty)

                            BUT I would love the option to have multiple accounts. Like a chequing account vs savings account setup. One I can use and have autowithdrawals from, and one that is more of a pool type account. Also be able to have multiple accounts period. That always pissed me off about paypal. I want one account with my real name, one with my other name, but both tied to the same bank account. That would be nice. Or maybe that's just being extra paranoid. ....

                            sorry, rambling.
                            email: [email protected]

                            Comment

                            • Bake
                              Confirmed User
                              • Jan 2001
                              • 5916

                              #64
                              I dont if you have included it or not but being able to use efpos to pay would be great.
                              Buy great domains from drunken burned out old webmaster CHEAP bullseyeporn.com art-met.com and more.
                              Learn how to make a easy extra $500 per week

                              Comment

                              • mrthumbs
                                salad tossing sig guy
                                • Apr 2002
                                • 11702

                                #65
                                So youre building a paypal alternative and a month before launch you ask people for suggestions? Sounds like serious competition for epass/pp!!!

                                Not based on an opensource payment script is it?

                                Comment

                                • Chio
                                  Confirmed User
                                  • Oct 2002
                                  • 8002

                                  #66
                                  Originally posted by mrthumbs
                                  So youre building a paypal alternative and a month before launch you ask people for suggestions? Sounds like serious competition for epass/pp!!!

                                  Not based on an opensource payment script is it?
                                  You should read my first post It's been in development for a year.
                                  I just wanted to make sure I had most features people wanted which from this thread I can see, we do.

                                  I seo'd my hair yesterday and today it's pr7!
                                  RIP Texas Dreams

                                  Are you a content producer or program owner sick of tube sites? Contact me on ICQ: 39-183769

                                  Comment

                                  • Chio
                                    Confirmed User
                                    • Oct 2002
                                    • 8002

                                    #67
                                    Originally posted by Bake
                                    I dont if you have included it or not but being able to use efpos to pay would be great.
                                    If you mean EFTPOS, it's not in yet but certainly something we would look into.

                                    I seo'd my hair yesterday and today it's pr7!
                                    RIP Texas Dreams

                                    Are you a content producer or program owner sick of tube sites? Contact me on ICQ: 39-183769

                                    Comment

                                    • Chio
                                      Confirmed User
                                      • Oct 2002
                                      • 8002

                                      #68
                                      Originally posted by Elli
                                      I haven't read the full thread (spank me, I've been naughty)

                                      BUT I would love the option to have multiple accounts. Like a chequing account vs savings account setup. One I can use and have autowithdrawals from, and one that is more of a pool type account. Also be able to have multiple accounts period. That always pissed me off about paypal. I want one account with my real name, one with my other name, but both tied to the same bank account. That would be nice. Or maybe that's just being extra paranoid. ....

                                      sorry, rambling.
                                      I predict you'll be happy with our system

                                      I seo'd my hair yesterday and today it's pr7!
                                      RIP Texas Dreams

                                      Are you a content producer or program owner sick of tube sites? Contact me on ICQ: 39-183769

                                      Comment

                                      • Rui
                                        web
                                        • Dec 2001
                                        • 9533

                                        #69
                                        Originally posted by vicki
                                        I know most people don't think or care about such things but I'd like to know the system is backed by reputable banking institutes, properly insured and directed by humans with banking and billing backgrounds.

                                        Customer service that is well stocked with SMART people and not smartarses or some bubblegum chewer making minimum wage lol
                                        This is one of my primary concerns that I talked with Chio about on icq.

                                        IMHO (and no offense) but saying you got a good set of investors and whatnot isn't deffy not enough, we need some names & credentials, look at the history of programs and billing companies to see why i'm so concerned...

                                        Comment

                                        • 26MLR
                                          Confirmed User
                                          • Dec 2005
                                          • 401

                                          #70
                                          Originally posted by Chio
                                          What would you add to make either better? My paypal system after a year of solid coding/designing/planning/investing should be complete within the next month.

                                          That said what do you as a user feel lacks from current systems?

                                          Give me a wish list. I know a big thing would be ability to transfer to and from these systems easily (no more epass>paypal> and vice versa type transfers) Having a debit card attached to your account, so you can use it online or wherever credit cards are taken... We have these already, What other things would be important?

                                          For merchants/program owners we have a mass payment system for affiliate payments.
                                          Paypal will shut you down... you better have some alternatives.

                                          Comment

                                          • flashfire
                                            ICQ 1 6 7 8 5 3 4 9 2
                                            • Feb 2003
                                            • 13098

                                            #71
                                            so when with the new system be revealed...or has it already been?

                                            Comment

                                            • flashfire
                                              ICQ 1 6 7 8 5 3 4 9 2
                                              • Feb 2003
                                              • 13098

                                              #72
                                              ^^^^^^BUMP^^^^^^

                                              when when when!

                                              Comment

                                              • flashfire
                                                ICQ 1 6 7 8 5 3 4 9 2
                                                • Feb 2003
                                                • 13098

                                                #73
                                                ....another bump

                                                any news

                                                Comment

                                                • Chio
                                                  Confirmed User
                                                  • Oct 2002
                                                  • 8002

                                                  #74
                                                  Originally posted by flashfire
                                                  ....another bump

                                                  any news

                                                  YARGH! A bit sidetracked. Coming a long nicely. Should be ready for soft launch in a few days

                                                  I seo'd my hair yesterday and today it's pr7!
                                                  RIP Texas Dreams

                                                  Are you a content producer or program owner sick of tube sites? Contact me on ICQ: 39-183769

                                                  Comment

                                                  • Jace
                                                    FBOP Class Of 2013
                                                    • Jan 2004
                                                    • 35562

                                                    #75
                                                    Originally posted by Chio
                                                    YARGH! A bit sidetracked. Coming a long nicely. Should be ready for soft launch in a few days
                                                    need any beta testers?

                                                    Comment

                                                    • flashfire
                                                      ICQ 1 6 7 8 5 3 4 9 2
                                                      • Feb 2003
                                                      • 13098

                                                      #76
                                                      Originally posted by Chio
                                                      YARGH! A bit sidetracked. Coming a long nicely. Should be ready for soft launch in a few days
                                                      cool, obviously I'm looking forward to it...whats your icq?

                                                      nevermind I'm blind

                                                      Comment

                                                      • DamageX
                                                        Marketing & Strategy
                                                        • Jun 2001
                                                        • 14293

                                                        #77
                                                        Originally posted by Chio
                                                        YARGH! A bit sidetracked. Coming a long nicely. Should be ready for soft launch in a few days
                                                        Man, I so hope this will work out nicely!
                                                        Whitehat is for chumps

                                                        If you don't do it, somebody else will - true story!

                                                        Comment

                                                        • pornguy
                                                          Too lazy to set a custom title
                                                          • Mar 2003
                                                          • 62910

                                                          #78
                                                          1. When your system takes off, dont get too big for your pants, or blinded by money. Remember where you came from.

                                                          Without adult. Paypal would most likely not have gotten the foothold they did. IMHO.

                                                          2. Want to really do something for your customers. Be like a real bank. Offer them Bank things. A savings account that payes interest. Etc....
                                                          PornGuy skype me pornguy_epic

                                                          AmateurDough The Hottes Shemales online!
                                                          TChicks.com | Angeles Cid | Mariana Cordoba | MAILERS WELCOME!

                                                          Comment

                                                          • leggs
                                                            Confirmed User
                                                            • May 2005
                                                            • 761

                                                            #79
                                                            Originally posted by Chio
                                                            What would you add to make either better? My paypal system after a year of solid coding/designing/planning/investing should be complete within the next month.

                                                            That said what do you as a user feel lacks from current systems?

                                                            Give me a wish list. I know a big thing would be ability to transfer to and from these systems easily (no more epass>paypal> and vice versa type transfers) Having a debit card attached to your account, so you can use it online or wherever credit cards are taken... We have these already, What other things would be important?

                                                            For merchants/program owners we have a mass payment system for affiliate payments.
                                                            Anonymity!!!
                                                            Ease of registration!!!
                                                            You allow ADULT Stuff without Attitude!!!
                                                            I can get a person on the phone and not buttons to push for 20 mins!!!!
                                                            I can access my money from any ATM machine!!!
                                                            Telephone: +44 0773 7671 113
                                                            http://kellysteele.biz
                                                            http://TheUKhardcore.com
                                                            http://hamiltonsteele.com

                                                            Comment

                                                            • flashfire
                                                              ICQ 1 6 7 8 5 3 4 9 2
                                                              • Feb 2003
                                                              • 13098

                                                              #80
                                                              Originally posted by pornguy
                                                              1. When your system takes off, dont get too big for your pants, or blinded by money. Remember where you came from.

                                                              Without adult. Paypal would most likely not have gotten the foothold they did. IMHO.

                                                              2. Want to really do something for your customers. Be like a real bank. Offer them Bank things. A savings account that payes interest. Etc....
                                                              just dont rape me on the fees and everythings cool, also good currency exchage rates would be nice

                                                              Comment

                                                              • pornguy
                                                                Too lazy to set a custom title
                                                                • Mar 2003
                                                                • 62910

                                                                #81
                                                                Originally posted by flashfire
                                                                just dont rape me on the fees and everythings cool, also good currency exchage rates would be nice
                                                                I agree with that!
                                                                PornGuy skype me pornguy_epic

                                                                AmateurDough The Hottes Shemales online!
                                                                TChicks.com | Angeles Cid | Mariana Cordoba | MAILERS WELCOME!

                                                                Comment

                                                                • Jace
                                                                  FBOP Class Of 2013
                                                                  • Jan 2004
                                                                  • 35562

                                                                  #82
                                                                  bump to find out what is happening with this....

                                                                  what is word mr. pirate?

                                                                  Comment

                                                                  • DamageX
                                                                    Marketing & Strategy
                                                                    • Jun 2001
                                                                    • 14293

                                                                    #83
                                                                    Yeah, what up mate?
                                                                    Whitehat is for chumps

                                                                    If you don't do it, somebody else will - true story!

                                                                    Comment

                                                                    • Egomancer
                                                                      Confirmed User
                                                                      • Dec 2005
                                                                      • 2074

                                                                      #84
                                                                      bump

                                                                      Egomancer
                                                                      ICQ: 95-239-282
                                                                      WWW: www.webprogrammers.eu
                                                                      WWW:www.seodev.eu
                                                                      Y!MSN: lord_ender

                                                                      If you want to outsource any work to Romania - here I am !!!!

                                                                      www.anotheranime.com | www.autotrafic.ro | www.jocurionline.ro

                                                                      Comment

                                                                      • The Sultan Of Smut
                                                                        Confirmed User
                                                                        • Dec 2004
                                                                        • 4325

                                                                        #85
                                                                        Another bump

                                                                        Comment

                                                                        • dissipate
                                                                          The Dirty Frenchman
                                                                          • Nov 2005
                                                                          • 8904

                                                                          #86
                                                                          with epass - some sort of escrow system

                                                                          Comment

                                                                          • Jace
                                                                            FBOP Class Of 2013
                                                                            • Jan 2004
                                                                            • 35562

                                                                            #87
                                                                            bump again til chio sees this

                                                                            Comment

                                                                            • Validus
                                                                              Confirmed User
                                                                              • Jul 2001
                                                                              • 4012

                                                                              #88
                                                                              Such a system on solid code would be VERY expensive. I know, trust me

                                                                              It would need to be all around through-through, user-friendly system.

                                                                              Very expensive

                                                                              Comment

                                                                              • Tipsy
                                                                                Confirmed User
                                                                                • Jul 2001
                                                                                • 6989

                                                                                #89
                                                                                Originally posted by Validus
                                                                                Such a system on solid code would be VERY expensive. I know, trust me

                                                                                It would need to be all around through-through, user-friendly system.

                                                                                Very expensive
                                                                                As he's more or less ready to go bar sorting legalities out I'd guess that he's very aware of that. Besides which, coding costs would probably be the least of your worries if trying to launch this sort of venture.
                                                                                Ignorance is never bliss.

                                                                                Comment

                                                                                • Validus
                                                                                  Confirmed User
                                                                                  • Jul 2001
                                                                                  • 4012

                                                                                  #90
                                                                                  Originally posted by Tipsy
                                                                                  As he's more or less ready to go bar sorting legalities out I'd guess that he's very aware of that. Besides which, coding costs would probably be the least of your worries if trying to launch this sort of venture.
                                                                                  I have done it before so... so if somebody needs input? get in touch with me ([email protected]).

                                                                                  I think the biggest ?challenge? will be the banks and cross border issues.

                                                                                  Comment

                                                                                  • Jace
                                                                                    FBOP Class Of 2013
                                                                                    • Jan 2004
                                                                                    • 35562

                                                                                    #91
                                                                                    Bump for Chio

                                                                                    Comment

                                                                                    • fusionx
                                                                                      Confirmed User
                                                                                      • Nov 2003
                                                                                      • 4618

                                                                                      #92
                                                                                      Multiple accounts has already been addressed several times, and I would also love to see that.

                                                                                      Just as much, if not more, I'd like to have "sub accounts". Accounts that branch off the master account so I could easily take charges on different web sites, even different areas of the same site, and keep them seperate for tx, p&l, any other purposes.

                                                                                      The ability to tag URLs with a key that would show up in the history would be great. Something like the campaign features that many affiliate programs use. Some of them allow you to add a key to a URL and it is automatically stored when it's first used. You don't even have to create a campaign/tag first.

                                                                                      Just thought of it - a number of user defined url variables that I can pass back and forth in my site's processing system. For example, I could pass in custom parameters that would be stored in the transaction history. Hmm.. maybe your API already covers this? For example, I could dynamically follow a user through the site, and track what page the purchase was actually made from. Or, it could be as asimple as letting me pass my own data, like a customer ID or even demographic info, into the transaction history. That data could then be dumped for reinclusion into my reporting system.

                                                                                      Comment

                                                                                      • Mpegmaster
                                                                                        Confirmed User
                                                                                        • Nov 2002
                                                                                        • 2300

                                                                                        #93
                                                                                        QUALITY CUSTOMER SUPPORT

                                                                                        Comment

                                                                                        • DamageX
                                                                                          Marketing & Strategy
                                                                                          • Jun 2001
                                                                                          • 14293

                                                                                          #94
                                                                                          Originally posted by Mpegmaster
                                                                                          QUALITY CUSTOMER SUPPORT
                                                                                          You'd think this one would be a given... But then again if it was, then no one would be looking to compete with epassporte.
                                                                                          Whitehat is for chumps

                                                                                          If you don't do it, somebody else will - true story!

                                                                                          Comment

                                                                                          • u-Bob
                                                                                            there's no $$$ in porn
                                                                                            • Jul 2005
                                                                                            • 33063

                                                                                            #95
                                                                                            Originally posted by After Shock Media
                                                                                            Fee's comparable to paypal and less like epassporte.

                                                                                            Options to send in US funds or local currency *at reasonable exchange rate.

                                                                                            Ability for people to pay a bill to you even if they do not have an account. So they can just pay you by credit card or whatnot.

                                                                                            Ability to add notes to assorted users you have in your own address book.
                                                                                            What he said + an easy way to check another account holder's 'reputation' (like the PP 'verified' thing but better)

                                                                                            (bonus idea: gpg/pgp encrypt the emails your system sends... or atleast have the system sign the emails it sends)

                                                                                            Comment

                                                                                            • u-Bob
                                                                                              there's no $$$ in porn
                                                                                              • Jul 2005
                                                                                              • 33063

                                                                                              #96
                                                                                              Originally posted by leggs
                                                                                              access my money from any ATM machine!!!

                                                                                              Comment

                                                                                              Working...