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  • Quotealex
    Confirmed User
    • Sep 2001
    • 6265

    #51
    50 for the fedsl

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    • fl_prn_str
      Confirmed User
      • Aug 2004
      • 5736

      #52
      Richard M. Nixon took the U.S. off the Gold Standard.

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      • woj
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        • Jul 2002
        • 47880

        #53
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        • RayBonga
          too cool for highschool
          • Nov 2005
          • 12164

          #54
          Here's an interesting view on the subject:

          I Want The Earth Plus 5%
          How The Federal Reserve Board System Works
          http://electronicgold.blogspot.com/2...th-plus-5.html

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          • warlock5
            Confirmed User
            • Jan 2004
            • 2808

            #55
            Originally posted by Matt 26z
            What's this I recently heard about them no longer reporting how much money is printed?
            http://research.stlouisfed.org/fred2/series/CURRCIR/45

            EDIT: actually I think this chart is more up to date:
            http://research.stlouisfed.org/fred2...RCIR/342/10yrs
            Last edited by warlock5; 01-08-2006, 12:52 PM.

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            • inthedark
              Registered User
              • Dec 2005
              • 48

              #56
              Originally posted by Alex from Montreal
              Simple. Create your own debt free page money and get rid of the fractional banking system.
              kennedy tried but never got to complete it ... Johnson didn't seem to like the idea and withdrew the bills from circulation

              One day there probably be such a form of money, when what the US owes the Federal Reserve become unpayable our government can just outlaw the Fed and the debt is erased... kinda cool if you think about it

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              • warlock5
                Confirmed User
                • Jan 2004
                • 2808

                #57
                Originally posted by inthedark
                kennedy tried but never got to complete it ... Johnson didn't seem to like the idea and withdrew the bills from circulation

                One day there probably be such a form of money, when what the US owes the Federal Reserve become unpayable our government can just outlaw the Fed and the debt is erased... kinda cool if you think about it
                Yeah, and say hello to insane taxes on income and everything else. The money the government spends has to come from somewhere.

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                • inthedark
                  Registered User
                  • Dec 2005
                  • 48

                  #58
                  the govt (treasury department) will then print the bills the govt needs to operate instead of the govt getting bills by printing bonds and selling them to the fed

                  as long as they dont overdo the printing inflation could be controlled and no need to raise taxes, worked fine in the US for a long time

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                  • warlock5
                    Confirmed User
                    • Jan 2004
                    • 2808

                    #59
                    overdo? So it would be better to have elected politicians who are notorious for overspending to control the money supply?

                    And you are wrong about it working fine for the US before, look up the Continental Dollar. In six years the bill went to zero value due to over printing. The US is still here, but it was not an easy lesson (and aparently one few learned from.)

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                    • Monk
                      Confirmed User
                      • Jan 2003
                      • 631

                      #60

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                      • inthedark
                        Registered User
                        • Dec 2005
                        • 48

                        #61
                        Originally posted by warlock5
                        overdo? So it would be better to have elected politicians who are notorious for overspending to control the money supply?

                        And you are wrong about it working fine for the US before, look up the Continental Dollar. In six years the bill went to zero value due to over printing. The US is still here, but it was not an easy lesson (and aparently one few learned from.)
                        -that is true, the best argument for having a central bank is that you have a team of trained economists running the money show rather than politicians

                        -the continental dollar was a mess, colonial scrip worked much better except it pissed off the bank of england and led to the war

                        personally I would hope to see economists get together and create a computer algorithm for controlling the money supply and take it totally out of the sphere of political influence

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                        • inthedark
                          Registered User
                          • Dec 2005
                          • 48

                          #62
                          Originally posted by Monk
                          it will always be that way with a fed, they aren't producing anything but are due interest on everything ... increasing prices is how the interest can be paid ... not bad if your income keeps up

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                          • warlock5
                            Confirmed User
                            • Jan 2004
                            • 2808

                            #63
                            I'm not convinced that an algorithm could do an even satisfactory job at something even some of the smartest economists struggle with.

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                            • Quotealex
                              Confirmed User
                              • Sep 2001
                              • 6265

                              #64
                              Originally posted by warlock5
                              The money the government spends has to come from somewhere.
                              If the bankers can create money from nothing with the fractional system currently in place, why can't the government do likewise or something similar.

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