Fleshlight started to screw affiliates ??

I "almost" gave up on them awhile back and redirected all my traffic to a landing page that promoted them and some PECash similar products... Been making some decent coin with the PECash stuff.... Was started to think about taking fleshlight completely off the page as I hadn't made a Fleshlight sale in months but this week I had 2 of them... Go figure...

I'm pretty sure they only reported money earned on the previous system once it was shipped as well. But it was easier to see the orders placed and the orders shipped with the old system.. plus you could see who was going to pay by cheque (which no one ever seemed to come thru with LOL) .. but then again the old system didn't report all the clicks properly.

Didn't know about them changing the cookie thing though.. that does suck.

shit really seems to go down on affiliates with many programs as it seems these days... not just fleshlight.

im going to stop promoting them

how am i supposed to make any money getting $17 per sale?

What I find disappointing is that there are no new creatives in the banners section and their news box on the right side of the affiliate page is stuck in a February 2007 time warp.

I also never seem to get the mailers. For example, I just went in to my affiliate account and noticed Fleshjack as a program option. WTF is fleshjack?

Well - yeah in the old days - eventually u could place a test order to see if it was tracked correctly ..now you just have to trust em .....

Well PE cash could be an alternative to fleshlight traffic or maybe a Tenga site ..

Any way I have alternatives setup for euro fleshlight traffic ..but I negotiating with a european company ..(commission %) ..they will convert european traffic ..and issue a 60day cookie ..

So lets see ...great to hear that you guys to feel screwed ...also did you realize they have an affiliate manager ??? WTF they never bother to send out any affiliate info ..unless its about U can no longer do this, u can longer do that ect ect ...

A few months ago I contacted them about the 30% issue and they told me: "what are you talking about? It has always been 30%" - WTF??

Since when did they change the cookie policy to 3 days? Last time i checked it was still a "lifetime" cookie

Care to shame some info on that?

No Problem...


You perverted, dirty little bastard, info!

LOL cut me some slack will you!

Sure dude ..as soon as we get things going

They seemed to have the most problems when they changed to Nats. Not sure why because nats is a great product. I guess it wasn't implemented properly by them or something but I’ve seen a ton of people bitching after that

that is sad...

I think their problem occured after the changed from Affiliate manager Dan to Ramos and then got even worse when CT came in charge :-) and now some one Josh is aff manager ...I have no clue what this guy is doing for the affiliates neither

To me it seems like they no longer care about their affiliates ..

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I have had no problems with them

Not good, I hope they will address these issues.

I stopped promoting them once they changed over to NATS for the same reasons you listed.

they went for bad to worst and so on..and yea..since Dan was changed..and the CT guy screwed everything up..and i mean everything..
now this new guy josh..i dunno what his doing..but sure thing nothing is changed for good..
i use to make about 5000-6000 some months more...since with the NATS im doing shit..however i still have tons of domains taht directs traffic to them becouse i diddnt knew where to send somewhere else..otherwise i had dropped them sicne ages..

what is strage is the fact that now they try to not pay at all whatever commissions are pending.. and tell fantastic stuff..
if they still dont want to send my money (about 1800USD)tomorrow then ill post here all the fantastic discutions i had with thouse strange guys.

im so pissed of but this ...used to be one of the greattest program..and now is doing shit..

FlyJoe please let me know about this new program taht you talk about..

bump 1 of 1000

Bumb - pufy ..ill PM you on that ...I would like to hear about the multidomain manager ...im looking for a tool to do multidomain stats ect ect on Creloaded


BTW - have any affiliate read their TOS ...its outrageous ...I think you must be insane to accept those terms ... best of all ....many of the things mentioned ..was done by several big affiliates and their own feeder sites

so now their team is made of only 2 guys..
charlie and todd
charlie seems that is dealing with payment issues..
at this moment they owe me money for commisions made in the last couple of months..about 1700USD.. well..they said that after all, from their NATS stats i owe them about 1300USD. UNBELEVABLE WHAT THIS COMPANY BECOME..
is not enought taht they are stealing from the sales becouse they are not showing corectly..now they are stealing peoples money directly..later today ill copy paste all the conversations i had with this guy charlie in the last couple of months..
in june, 2007 hetold me that my commisions are only 1100USD..after a long fight for about 3-4 weeks he told me that im right..and my real commisions are about 2100USD..wich it was.. he said that hes sorry about this "mistake"..over 1000USD mistake..well taht was in june..now, with about 2 weeks ago i have sent them an email to send my damn money becouse they didnt sent it automaticaly.. after 100's of emails and ICQ messages to all the guy from this company charlie bother to answer.. and sent me on epassporte about 16*USD and he said that hes sorry but he doesnt have anymore money in the epass..and i sould had to wait for couple of days..and i had patience..and i waited..and wait..and wait... but the money has not been sent..i sent him one email..then another..then another..and after 5 days i contacted again on ICQ this guy Todd..wich replayed..and he asked charlie to answer..
and i received an science-fantastic email from charlie and he told me that I OWE THEM money..
unbelevable..ill copy paste all the conversation here tomorrow becouse today im to irritated and tired about all this faith..

i dont need that money anymore..and i have told them..but i want to put all this drama here even if not to many people will read it..but who will read it i wantthem to learn from it..
this is how a great produt and affiliate sistem is going to hell becouse of some dumb people..who like to steal and cover their tracks with shit.

want to mention that im a very old affiliate of fleshlight..i helped Dan to build this brand ..im on the first 10 affiliates this program had.. i had about 30,000 pages promoting fleshlight. more then 400 domains with fleshlight..i had 1-8 places in google SERP on fleshlight word and on yahoo fisrt 28 spots..made a ton of money back in time with this product..and now since Dan left got from bad to worst and from worst to stealing..and this is where ill stand up and tell to everyone..
im not usually a winny guy but this is enough...
SO FOR EVERYONE: DONT EVER USE FLESHLIGHTCASH AFFILIATE PROGRAM.
THEY ARE STEALING AND EVENTUALLY YOULL NOT BE PAID NOT EVEN FOR THE FEW SALES YOURE DOING.

Flyjoe - www.easydomainmanager.com
take a look and see..you cant test it aswell...and then we can talk on ICQ..
47853945 - contact me personally..

lol
yup got the same problems with them.. still got money with them.. but screw it.. they are not worth it anymore..

let us know when you got the alternative you talked about.

Doesn't Mallcom also carry the Fleshlight? And have an affiliate program with direct-to-product linkcodes?

They changed it to three days?????? 90% of my sames are from people that bookmarked the site and came back later, if that is true I have to remove them

I'm removing all my links tomorrow

ill make a site anti thouse peoples taht are in charge at this moment...something like www.registerflies.com
ill update here when it will be ready.

"started"?

Hmm.

woooooooooooooooooooof

http://www.fleshjack.com/

WTF - Who the hell is this ????

fleshlight.com/main/images/475x300/tShirtProductPageImage.jpg

Btw - anyone knows if Steven Shubin is for real or just a dreamed up alias ..its weird you can never talk to the guy - I mean if a company director of operations like CT fucks up - you want to talk to the main man ..because in the end its his money that are lost when the fleshlight debranding - and affiliate screwing is over ... links to fleshlight key persons ect could be fun ... always nice to see the face of someone screwing ya ...

YOU ARE RIGHT - not the first time I hear this story ...many old timers affiliates that worked hard promoting and creating the brand are getting fucked - I normally dont whine either - but this is absurd ...they dont even reply on emails ..and if you call...they are out for lunch ...
How the fuck did Steve Shubin employ people like that !!! The company was selling over 500 units a day in the old days ..I mean there should be money enough to hire some one with some brains!! Dammit ...

Ill be back in this thread as soon as some news occur - and pls post more info

Agree with Frenchie... gave up on FL around the beginning of Summer

they never send me a free fleshlight and i just made one sale.... xD

http://www.fleshjack.com/shop.php?cid=137 That video is fucking funny ..lol

yes i remember when they got that flashy new affiliate site with nats...and of course cut the %

Update

It seems they have changed the cookie period recently a day or two ago - now it seems to be 60 days ...which is a hell of a lot better than 2 !!!!

Could some one verify ? ...

Did you not get their email??? They will be dropping nats in a few weeks for a completely new custom built stats system that's going to provide better info as well etc... plus, they increased the cookie period to 60 days and hopefully when the new system is in place even longer.. They "let go" 2 people as well... they did a post on here with their announcement as well..

Anybody else seeing a BIG drop in sales since September 26?

will wait until I can talk with Juicy or rep to give more details.

Yep since the 27th here. It looks like week-end stats to me.. Tried to get explainations to no avail..

WTF no never got that mail ...but no surprise ! ..Who is going a thread link maby :-)

Here ya go...
http://www.gofuckyourself.com/showthread.php?t=770687

I've been promoting fleshlight for well over 2 years now, never ever had problems with them!! My average ratio is around 1:150 with them, always got paid on time and never been crewed!!!

FleshlightCash rocks

Kudos to Juicy and Todd!! (well CT and Josh have been good guys too, at least for me....to bad they left the team).

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Thanks M8