It is also possible that a scammy sponsor could turn off rebills for a day here and there and then go back to full rebills.
Good point, I'm sure that happens. I would have assumed that at least one rep from any of the accused companies would have posted in the last 4 hours in response to this but since they haven't... fuck em.
It is also possible that a scammy sponsor could turn off rebills for a day here and there and then go back to full rebills.
Bingo! It doesn't even need to be for a day, say there are 10 rebills that will happen between 8pm and 9pm, that's an extra $100-$150 in the program owner's pocket...
PLEASE ccbill, set up an email notification system! Verotel already does this.
Just like last year. Nothing will change. Everybody will claim its a glitch and people will forget about. Next year we'll have a similar thread, a lot of shouting and then nothing. This will keep happening.
I don't use CCBill because they never seem to convert for me but is it possible that the 44% is what you get after splitting the processing fee?
The processing fee has nothing to do with the percentage which is listed in the system. It is automatically taken from sales generated by affiliates. Since it's listed at 44% now it will be taken down to 29% take home for the affiliate.
Bingo! It doesn't even need to be for a day, say there are 10 rebills that will happen between 8pm and 9pm, that's an extra $100-$150 in the program owner's pocket...
PLEASE ccbill, set up an email notification system! Verotel already does this.
An email notification system would be a great addition.
With Ron Harris I have 23 sales & 5 rebills with them in the past year, so i did get some rebills but man they are some SHITTY ass rebills (this is from the site GenevuiresSecretSpot.com )
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The processing fee has nothing to do with the percentage which is listed in the system. It is automatically taken from sales generated by affiliates. Since it's listed at 44% now it will be taken down to 29% take home for the affiliate.
proc fee is NOT automatic with CCBill. program owner has to decide if he's gonna pay the processing fee himself or pass onto affiliate also the processing fee is a split when he passes on so if the the total proc fee is 15% affiliates pay 7.5% off it. There are sponsors who pay the proc fees themselves so with them 50% would be more like 57.5% equivalent of sponsors that split proc fees with affiliates.
Glad I've never promoted any of them. And I remember now why i NEVER PROMOTE ccbill only sponsors that don't have cascading billing. This is just another fucking reason.
Cheating webmasters on recurring billing is nothing short of MASSIVE FRAUD
That just doesn't make any sense
Though there are no guarantees that you can't get shaved regardless of what setup the program uses, at least with CCbill you allways can detect the cheating, with cascading scripts you have no way of knowing and will have to rely on faith in the program.
Just look at the example posted, how would you ever detect that you where being shaved of your rebills after 1, 2 or more rebills if your sponsor uses a cascading script and you have no access to the prosessor settings ?
With CCbill on the other hand, you can log in and check it right there in your stats area.
So, you not liking CCbill, that's fair enough.. But not promoting CCbill sites due to Fraud or shaving that's Bulls*beep*t as it would be 10 times easier/less risky shaving your ass through a script, than it would through CCbill
With that said, I'm wondering why nobody is suing sponsors caught cheating.. This IS fraud and they ARE stealing the money you earned.. in any other case where people where caught stealing money from you wouldn't you eigther kick their ass or call the police ? Then why not do so when you catch somone shaving ??
The 99 rebills is not a problem, actually I think that it´s the max you can set at CCbill... anyway, that´s more than 8 years... Nobody has a membership for 8 years...
But the 0 rebills is a problem, I´ll be checking my affiliate account with CCbill right now.
The 99 rebills is not a problem, actually I think that it´s the max you can set at CCbill... anyway, that´s more than 8 years... Nobody has a membership for 8 years...
But the 0 rebills is a problem, I´ll be checking my affiliate account with CCbill right now.
Just checked my accounts, looks OK...
The 99 rebill must have fixed, since all my accounts now says unlimited. But 99 was the max a while ago...
PLEASE ccbill, set up an email notification system! Verotel already does this.
Ccbill has the email notification.....but when u sign up to a new sponsor you have to click details (in your admin screen) and click email notification.
I asked them to set it as Yes by default, but they say it can't be done.
With all respect to ccbill, that's one buig heap of shit.
Anyways...it's there.
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Ccbill has the email notification.....but when u sign up to a new sponsor you have to click details (in your admin screen) and click email notification.
I asked them to set it as Yes by default, but they say it can't be done.
With all respect to ccbill, that's one buig heap of shit.
Anyways...it's there.
It says, "Receive Webmaster Emails:" I always thought that setting was for emails from the webmaster (like newsletters, promotions, etc.) not system emails from ccbill. They should have a setting for webmaster emails and ccbill emails.
It says, "Receive Webmaster Emails:" I always thought that setting was for emails from the webmaster (like newsletters, promotions, etc.) not system emails from ccbill. They should have a setting for webmaster emails and ccbill emails.
A couple of things to note here... CCBill's contract is with the site owner, not the affiliate. Their legal obligations extend to the site owner and that's it.
Are all of these programs using CCBill to cut checks? If they are using a cascading system I don't think the CCBill settings make any difference to the payouts...
I just got off the phone with CCBill and the guy I talked to said that when a programs details says Zero, it means they have rebills turned off on their end and that they don't offer rebills.
So hopefully one of the affiliates can come forth and shed some light on the subject.
Oh, one of my fellow webmasters contacted Ron Harris, and this is what he had to say.
"At first I was incensed that someone would accuse me of cheating them. So I called CCBill to discuss the problem with them, because the screen that the affiliates see is very different from the one that I use to setup the accounts.
In examine my entire program we did find a mistake on all the affiliates that were set for 65%. payout, I had made a new sub group named 65% and I had set it up incorrectly. It was set for NO rebills. There are only 12 affiliates in this group. Thankfully you and Coolio are not in this group. I checked all the groups and the default setup and all 1,790 affiliates ARE getting there correct rebills, FOREVER. FOREVER is defined by CCBill as 99 rebills. It is not possible to change this number.
As you know I pride myself on my honesty and integrity. This is the first mistake that I have made in the 10 years that I have been in this business. And that is what it was an honest mistake. If you have setup an affiliate account in the CCBill affiliate setup page, it would be easy for you to see how this could happen.
I will examine each of the 12 affiliates in this group and personally send them a check for what that have not been paid. I will base the amount on the average percentage of rebills for all affiliates. I have also changed this group to YES and they will be getting all there rebills from today on."
Which to me is a very good explanation, so if you're promoting Ron Harris, please continue to do so.
I just got off the phone with CCBill and the guy I talked to said that when a programs details says Zero, it means they have rebills turned off on their end and that they don't offer rebills.
"Sign up for Josephevans.com Affilate Program today and make 50% of every signup you refer to us."
Hmm... if you read the wording it doesn't actually say anything about paying for rebills. Most of us in the adult industry tend to accept signup+rebills as the norm, but perhaps some people work differently. Best to ask the site owner what's happening.
It says, "Receive Webmaster Emails:" I always thought that setting was for emails from the webmaster (like newsletters, promotions, etc.) not system emails from ccbill. They should have a setting for webmaster emails and ccbill emails.
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