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  • larsson
    Registered User
    • Dec 2005
    • 58

    #101
    thanks!

    Thanks for the heads up mate i had one of them and have now deleted them dirty scum bags
    Make up to a $100 per sign up with this programme plus give away 3 free trial mins phonesex and webcams or just plain
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    • nofx
      Too lazy to set a custom title
      • Nov 2002
      • 16826

      #102
      bump bump

      great thread

      expose the fucks and let them hang

      Often times I wonder why
      There's love and hate, theres live or die.
      When sickness comes I must decide:
      When feelings go, theres suicide.

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      • The Sultan Of Smut
        Confirmed User
        • Dec 2004
        • 4325

        #103
        Originally posted by Matt 26z
        It is also possible that a scammy sponsor could turn off rebills for a day here and there and then go back to full rebills.
        Good point, I'm sure that happens. I would have assumed that at least one rep from any of the accused companies would have posted in the last 4 hours in response to this but since they haven't... fuck em.

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        • rowan
          Too lazy to set a custom title
          • Mar 2002
          • 17393

          #104
          Originally posted by Matt 26z
          It is also possible that a scammy sponsor could turn off rebills for a day here and there and then go back to full rebills.
          Bingo! It doesn't even need to be for a day, say there are 10 rebills that will happen between 8pm and 9pm, that's an extra $100-$150 in the program owner's pocket...

          PLEASE ccbill, set up an email notification system! Verotel already does this.

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          • vvq
            Confirmed User
            • Feb 2004
            • 2732

            #105
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            • Nookster
              Confirmed IT Professional
              • Nov 2005
              • 3744

              #106
              WOW. I read this thread about an hour ago and have since then been checking a lot of my ccbill sponsors and the very first one I checked is definitely shaving.
              Asian Amateur Cash is shaving from the supposed 50% down to 44%...pics to prove.
              http://img232.imageshack.us/img232/8...eurcash0kg.jpg
              http://img362.imageshack.us/img362/5...urcash15wj.jpg
              Sad cause that guy has some good sites. Too bad for him. BUSTED!
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              • Nookster
                Confirmed IT Professional
                • Nov 2005
                • 3744

                #107
                bump. people need to see this shit.
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                • bdld
                  $100,000
                  • Dec 2001
                  • 11452

                  #108
                  people STILL do this? pretty blatantly too, i can't say im surprised unfortunately.

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                  • xxxice
                    Confirmed User
                    • Feb 2002
                    • 5042

                    #109
                    Originally posted by Franck
                    Just like last year. Nothing will change. Everybody will claim its a glitch and people will forget about. Next year we'll have a similar thread, a lot of shouting and then nothing. This will keep happening.
                    True

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                    • shack
                      Confirmed User
                      • Oct 2004
                      • 539

                      #110
                      http://www.amazinghotties.com/images...ction-cash.jpg

                      99 and life, same thing

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                      • Nookster
                        Confirmed IT Professional
                        • Nov 2005
                        • 3744

                        #111
                        Originally posted by shack
                        Nope. It should say unlimited like it does here: http://img232.imageshack.us/img232/8...eurcash0kg.jpg
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                        • Corona
                          Confirmed User
                          • Feb 2002
                          • 2185

                          #112
                          Originally posted by Nookster
                          WOW. I read this thread about an hour ago and have since then been checking a lot of my ccbill sponsors and the very first one I checked is definitely shaving.
                          Asian Amateur Cash is shaving from the supposed 50% down to 44%...pics to prove.
                          http://img232.imageshack.us/img232/8...eurcash0kg.jpg
                          http://img362.imageshack.us/img362/5...urcash15wj.jpg
                          Sad cause that guy has some good sites. Too bad for him. BUSTED!
                          I don't use CCBill because they never seem to convert for me but is it possible that the 44% is what you get after splitting the processing fee?
                          I was looking for a job, and then I found a job
                          And heaven knows I'm miserable now

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                          • dziggy
                            Registered User
                            • Sep 2005
                            • 68

                            #113
                            Shayde, thanks for sharing this with us.

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                            • Nookster
                              Confirmed IT Professional
                              • Nov 2005
                              • 3744

                              #114
                              Originally posted by Corona
                              I don't use CCBill because they never seem to convert for me but is it possible that the 44% is what you get after splitting the processing fee?
                              The processing fee has nothing to do with the percentage which is listed in the system. It is automatically taken from sales generated by affiliates. Since it's listed at 44% now it will be taken down to 29% take home for the affiliate.
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                              • the Shemp
                                congrats to the winners
                                • Nov 2001
                                • 10891

                                #115
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                                • Makingcoin
                                  Confirmed User
                                  • Aug 2002
                                  • 8919

                                  #116
                                  Originally posted by rowan
                                  Bingo! It doesn't even need to be for a day, say there are 10 rebills that will happen between 8pm and 9pm, that's an extra $100-$150 in the program owner's pocket...

                                  PLEASE ccbill, set up an email notification system! Verotel already does this.
                                  An email notification system would be a great addition.

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                                  • ilbb
                                    Confirmed User
                                    • May 2005
                                    • 3025

                                    #117
                                    fucking cheaters

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                                    • Kevsh
                                      Confirmed User
                                      • Dec 2004
                                      • 8619

                                      #118
                                      Under my PerfectionCash account it shows:

                                      "Payments for Rebills End After: (Unlimited) rebills"

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                                      • Malicious Biz
                                        So Fucking Banned
                                        • Mar 2005
                                        • 4575

                                        #119
                                        Bump... Someone needs to be explaining some shit to us.

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                                        • jscott
                                          jscizzle
                                          • Feb 2001
                                          • 25456

                                          #120
                                          With Ron Harris I have 23 sales & 5 rebills with them in the past year, so i did get some rebills but man they are some SHITTY ass rebills (this is from the site GenevuiresSecretSpot.com )
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                                          • RogerV
                                            Banned!
                                            • Jul 2002
                                            • 12591

                                            #121
                                            All i have to say if you cant pick up the phone and call a sponsor/program you shouldnt be doing business with them..

                                            I dont do biz with faceless companies either i've seen many come and go and fuck webmasters

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                                            • seven
                                              Confirmed User
                                              • Apr 2002
                                              • 2697

                                              #122
                                              Originally posted by Nookster
                                              The processing fee has nothing to do with the percentage which is listed in the system. It is automatically taken from sales generated by affiliates. Since it's listed at 44% now it will be taken down to 29% take home for the affiliate.
                                              proc fee is NOT automatic with CCBill. program owner has to decide if he's gonna pay the processing fee himself or pass onto affiliate also the processing fee is a split when he passes on so if the the total proc fee is 15% affiliates pay 7.5% off it. There are sponsors who pay the proc fees themselves so with them 50% would be more like 57.5% equivalent of sponsors that split proc fees with affiliates.
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                                              • Dirty Dane
                                                Sick Fuck
                                                • Feb 2004
                                                • 9491

                                                #123
                                                I would not exactly call this shaving. The signup is $9.95 and the flat payout on rebills is $4, which looks logic after the fees?

                                                But thanks for head up on the others

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                                                • fedfest
                                                  Confirmed User
                                                  • May 2002
                                                  • 1334

                                                  #124
                                                  Originally posted by adultchica
                                                  Glad I've never promoted any of them. And I remember now why i NEVER PROMOTE ccbill only sponsors that don't have cascading billing. This is just another fucking reason.

                                                  Cheating webmasters on recurring billing is nothing short of MASSIVE FRAUD
                                                  That just doesn't make any sense
                                                  Though there are no guarantees that you can't get shaved regardless of what setup the program uses, at least with CCbill you allways can detect the cheating, with cascading scripts you have no way of knowing and will have to rely on faith in the program.

                                                  Just look at the example posted, how would you ever detect that you where being shaved of your rebills after 1, 2 or more rebills if your sponsor uses a cascading script and you have no access to the prosessor settings ?
                                                  With CCbill on the other hand, you can log in and check it right there in your stats area.

                                                  So, you not liking CCbill, that's fair enough.. But not promoting CCbill sites due to Fraud or shaving that's Bulls*beep*t as it would be 10 times easier/less risky shaving your ass through a script, than it would through CCbill

                                                  With that said, I'm wondering why nobody is suing sponsors caught cheating.. This IS fraud and they ARE stealing the money you earned.. in any other case where people where caught stealing money from you wouldn't you eigther kick their ass or call the police ? Then why not do so when you catch somone shaving ??
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                                                  • Brujah
                                                    Beer Money Baron
                                                    • Jan 2001
                                                    • 22157

                                                    #125
                                                    Didn't Lensman say if you post " SEE SIG " you are banned ?

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                                                    • Claude
                                                      Confirmed User
                                                      • Apr 2003
                                                      • 1036

                                                      #126
                                                      The 99 rebills is not a problem, actually I think that it´s the max you can set at CCbill... anyway, that´s more than 8 years... Nobody has a membership for 8 years...

                                                      But the 0 rebills is a problem, I´ll be checking my affiliate account with CCbill right now.
                                                      Last edited by Claude; 01-06-2006, 06:46 AM.

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                                                      • Claude
                                                        Confirmed User
                                                        • Apr 2003
                                                        • 1036

                                                        #127
                                                        Originally posted by Claude
                                                        The 99 rebills is not a problem, actually I think that it´s the max you can set at CCbill... anyway, that´s more than 8 years... Nobody has a membership for 8 years...

                                                        But the 0 rebills is a problem, I´ll be checking my affiliate account with CCbill right now.
                                                        Just checked my accounts, looks OK...

                                                        The 99 rebill must have fixed, since all my accounts now says unlimited. But 99 was the max a while ago...

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                                                        • Spankys Teens
                                                          Confirmed User
                                                          • May 2005
                                                          • 1414

                                                          #128
                                                          Originally posted by rowan

                                                          PLEASE ccbill, set up an email notification system! Verotel already does this.
                                                          Ccbill has the email notification.....but when u sign up to a new sponsor you have to click details (in your admin screen) and click email notification.
                                                          I asked them to set it as Yes by default, but they say it can't be done.
                                                          With all respect to ccbill, that's one buig heap of shit.

                                                          Anyways...it's there.
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                                                          • The Sultan Of Smut
                                                            Confirmed User
                                                            • Dec 2004
                                                            • 4325

                                                            #129
                                                            I figured this thread needed another bump.

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                                                            • PSD
                                                              PornSiteDomains.com
                                                              • Oct 2002
                                                              • 1265

                                                              #130
                                                              Originally posted by Spankys Teens
                                                              Ccbill has the email notification.....but when u sign up to a new sponsor you have to click details (in your admin screen) and click email notification.
                                                              I asked them to set it as Yes by default, but they say it can't be done.
                                                              With all respect to ccbill, that's one buig heap of shit.

                                                              Anyways...it's there.
                                                              It says, "Receive Webmaster Emails:" I always thought that setting was for emails from the webmaster (like newsletters, promotions, etc.) not system emails from ccbill. They should have a setting for webmaster emails and ccbill emails.
                                                              Last edited by PSD; 01-06-2006, 11:58 AM.
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                                                              • davethetruth
                                                                Confirmed User
                                                                • Jan 2004
                                                                • 2806

                                                                #131
                                                                Glad I don't use any of those.
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                                                                • broke
                                                                  Confirmed User
                                                                  • Aug 2003
                                                                  • 4501

                                                                  #132
                                                                  Originally posted by JCK
                                                                  It says, "Receive Webmaster Emails:" I always thought that setting was for emails from the webmaster (like newsletters, promotions, etc.) not system emails from ccbill. They should have a setting for webmaster emails and ccbill emails.
                                                                  Sounds like complicity to fraud...

                                                                  Let's not mistake what is actaully happening.
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                                                                  • Kimmykim
                                                                    bitchslapping zebras!!!!!
                                                                    • Jun 2001
                                                                    • 16015

                                                                    #133
                                                                    A couple of things to note here... CCBill's contract is with the site owner, not the affiliate. Their legal obligations extend to the site owner and that's it.

                                                                    Are all of these programs using CCBill to cut checks? If they are using a cascading system I don't think the CCBill settings make any difference to the payouts...

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                                                                    • MrChips
                                                                      Confirmed User
                                                                      • May 2005
                                                                      • 1504

                                                                      #134
                                                                      Would you like these listed on www.fuckemoff.com - a new site im working on?

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                                                                      • shayde
                                                                        Registered User
                                                                        • Nov 2004
                                                                        • 38

                                                                        #135
                                                                        Ok here's what I've found out so far.

                                                                        I just got off the phone with CCBill and the guy I talked to said that when a programs details says Zero, it means they have rebills turned off on their end and that they don't offer rebills.

                                                                        Much like this one.

                                                                        JosephEvans
                                                                        http://www.amazinghotties.com/images...seph-evans.jpg
                                                                        http://www.amazinghotties.com/images...ph-evans-2.jpg

                                                                        So hopefully one of the affiliates can come forth and shed some light on the subject.

                                                                        Oh, one of my fellow webmasters contacted Ron Harris, and this is what he had to say.

                                                                        "At first I was incensed that someone would accuse me of cheating them. So I called CCBill to discuss the problem with them, because the screen that the affiliates see is very different from the one that I use to setup the accounts.

                                                                        In examine my entire program we did find a mistake on all the affiliates that were set for 65%. payout, I had made a new sub group named 65% and I had set it up incorrectly. It was set for NO rebills. There are only 12 affiliates in this group. Thankfully you and Coolio are not in this group. I checked all the groups and the default setup and all 1,790 affiliates ARE getting there correct rebills, FOREVER. FOREVER is defined by CCBill as 99 rebills. It is not possible to change this number.

                                                                        As you know I pride myself on my honesty and integrity. This is the first mistake that I have made in the 10 years that I have been in this business. And that is what it was an honest mistake. If you have setup an affiliate account in the CCBill affiliate setup page, it would be easy for you to see how this could happen.

                                                                        I will examine each of the 12 affiliates in this group and personally send them a check for what that have not been paid. I will base the amount on the average percentage of rebills for all affiliates. I have also changed this group to YES and they will be getting all there rebills from today on."
                                                                        Which to me is a very good explanation, so if you're promoting Ron Harris, please continue to do so.

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                                                                        • crockett
                                                                          in a van by the river
                                                                          • May 2003
                                                                          • 76818

                                                                          #136
                                                                          Originally posted by Makingcoin
                                                                          An email notification system would be a great addition.
                                                                          We asked for that last year...when this problem first came up..
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                                                                          • rowan
                                                                            Too lazy to set a custom title
                                                                            • Mar 2002
                                                                            • 17393

                                                                            #137
                                                                            Originally posted by shayde
                                                                            Ok here's what I've found out so far.

                                                                            I just got off the phone with CCBill and the guy I talked to said that when a programs details says Zero, it means they have rebills turned off on their end and that they don't offer rebills.

                                                                            Much like this one.

                                                                            JosephEvans
                                                                            http://www.amazinghotties.com/images...seph-evans.jpg
                                                                            http://www.amazinghotties.com/images...ph-evans-2.jpg
                                                                            "Sign up for Josephevans.com Affilate Program today and make 50% of every signup you refer to us."

                                                                            Hmm... if you read the wording it doesn't actually say anything about paying for rebills. Most of us in the adult industry tend to accept signup+rebills as the norm, but perhaps some people work differently. Best to ask the site owner what's happening.

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                                                                            • Flu
                                                                              Confirmed User
                                                                              • May 2004
                                                                              • 652

                                                                              #138
                                                                              oooh i see.
                                                                              Last edited by Flu; 01-06-2006, 10:26 PM.
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                                                                              • pornpf69
                                                                                Too lazy to set a custom title
                                                                                • Jun 2004
                                                                                • 15782

                                                                                #139
                                                                                thx for sharing the info...

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                                                                                • Kevin2
                                                                                  Confirmed User
                                                                                  • May 2003
                                                                                  • 1429

                                                                                  #140
                                                                                  Originally posted by JCK
                                                                                  It says, "Receive Webmaster Emails:" I always thought that setting was for emails from the webmaster (like newsletters, promotions, etc.) not system emails from ccbill. They should have a setting for webmaster emails and ccbill emails.
                                                                                  That is a great idea. CCbill please take note

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                                                                                  • the Shemp
                                                                                    congrats to the winners
                                                                                    • Nov 2001
                                                                                    • 10891

                                                                                    #141
                                                                                    note to sponsors...please do not "trim" the shemp...thank you..
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                                                                                    • Jon Clark - BANNED FOR LIFE
                                                                                      North Coast Pimp
                                                                                      • Dec 2005
                                                                                      • 9395

                                                                                      #142

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                                                                                      • SomeCreep
                                                                                        :glugglug
                                                                                        • Mar 2003
                                                                                        • 26118

                                                                                        #143
                                                                                        Spamming your shit in every thread is lame. Welcome to my ignore list

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                                                                                        • DWB
                                                                                          Registered User
                                                                                          • Jul 2003
                                                                                          • 31779

                                                                                          #144
                                                                                          Last I checked you could only set ccbill to 99 re-bills, and not for forever. Has this changed?

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                                                                                          • Spud
                                                                                            Confirmed User
                                                                                            • Jul 2001
                                                                                            • 340

                                                                                            #145
                                                                                            is it sig whore day or something or is it spring break? thanks for the info shayde

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                                                                                            • Tom_PM
                                                                                              Porn Meister
                                                                                              • Feb 2005
                                                                                              • 16443

                                                                                              #146
                                                                                              lol, wtf? 4 month old thread?
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                                                                                              • Screaming
                                                                                                I can change this!!!!!
                                                                                                • Feb 2004
                                                                                                • 18972

                                                                                                #147
                                                                                                whyed you bump this?

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